Hey Fonic,

Gonna help you get to 8! I won't give up if you don't ;)


Grow some marijuana.

If you lost your vibrator ,you can also use a heating pad at the base of your cock.


fonic;481391 said:
Dickleaker;481323 said:
Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.



For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort


Thanks dickleaker, to my rescue as usual, got plenty time on my hands just now so have no excuses but to read up on your provided info,

i'm actually quite intrigued to see when i come back if this whole decon break works and kickstarts newbie gains again.

any ideas for a hobby in the meantime, and btw lmao where will i get a vibrator from don't exactly have one lying around, a could use a makeshift one though a got in the monkey spanker!
 
8incyclops;481647 said:
Any news? Dld is this discount still going to be on?

Still waiting on him. He mentioned that they have depleted their stock and were waiting on a new shipment of stock, this may have something to do with it. I will send him another message today and see where the status is.
 
Any members getting results/gains from using the pm pro. Include hours per day or total hours in.
Also any gainers with the belt option. I interested in this option since I plan to use this primary when I decide to purchase it. (Holding out for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] discount)
 
Do you guys use the belt system??? It looks like you can just go out and buy something similar that will hold the suction cup in place instead of paying for it.
 
8incyclops ,I thought about buying a 1 1/2" or 2" heavy duty elastic bands and using suspenders clippers. Then making something to attach it to the suction cup. This would bring the cost down by alot. I dont own the device as yet. Just a theory.
Or keep it simple and use a leg strap and some rubber bands. I did this in the past with my captn wench.
 
im4u89;482417 said:
Why is this affiliation with pmpro taking sooooo long?

Because it is a special affiliation and it will take some programming by the folks at [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words]. I got an email from them this past Thursday and they are working on it and assured me it would be soon. The affiliation is special because it allows users to customize their [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] in different ways while giving an incredible deal. I never sign up for standard affiliations, anyone can do that, with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] I want something special for my members.
 
Way to go DLD.IMO best Penis Enlargement device for guys wanting to gain with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].The comfort provided allows you to extend for 24 hours if you wanna stay up all night ;)
doublelongdaddy;482448 said:
Because it is a special affiliation and it will take some programming by the folks at [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words]. I got an email from them this past Thursday and they are working on it and assured me it would be soon. The affiliation is special because it allows users to customize their [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] in different ways while giving an incredible deal. I never sign up for standard affiliations, anyone can do that, with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] I want something special for my members.
 
Dickleaker;482531 said:
Way to go DLD.IMO best Penis Enlargement device for guys wanting to gain with an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].The comfort provided allows you to extend for 24 hours if you wanna stay up all night ;)

Thanks for understanding:) It takes me a long time to actually go after a new affiliate but when I do it is much more than a standard partnership, it is a special affiliation that is only available for us. This thread alone is a testament to the time it takes to find a solid affiliate.
 
doublelongdaddy;482535 said:
Thanks for understanding:) It takes me a long time to actually go after a new affiliate but when I do it is much more than a standard partnership, it is a special affiliation that is only available for us. This thread alone is a testament to the time it takes to find a solid affiliate.

What is the status on the Penismaster Pro?
Am I able to buy the strapless attachment for my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] without having to purchase another whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
I'm at the point where I wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 8+ hours a day and I'm having to take the fucking thing off every 40 minutes to an hour because it hurts so bad. Very frustrating. It's even worse when I am doing movements at work ie. bending down.
Any idea if the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] attachment will be ready for us to buy any time soon?
 
MikeShlort;482817 said:
What is the status on the Penismaster Pro?
Am I able to buy the strapless attachment for my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] without having to purchase another whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
I'm at the point where I wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 8+ hours a day and I'm having to take the fucking thing off every 40 minutes to an hour because it hurts so bad. Very frustrating. It's even worse when I am doing movements at work ie. bending down.
Any idea if the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] attachment will be ready for us to buy any time soon?

Oops, should have read up top first.

Once you get the partnership with [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words], will we be able to buy just the attachment or will we have to buy the whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
MikeShlort;482817 said:
What is the status on the Penismaster Pro?
Am I able to buy the strapless attachment for my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] without having to purchase another whole [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
I'm at the point where I wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 8+ hours a day and I'm having to take the fucking thing off every 40 minutes to an hour because it hurts so bad. Very frustrating. It's even worse when I am doing movements at work ie. bending down.
Any idea if the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] attachment will be ready for us to buy any time soon?

i believe that most of us that have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] got the upgrade kit 2. it has the head attachment that fits the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. the head attachment is a little loose, but under tension, it works great. I go an hour and a half, and check things just to make sure that there's nothing going wrong. today, I wore the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and a divosuit to work...no issues, and it was on all day.
 
today, I wore the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and a divosuit to work...no issues, and it was on all day.[/QUOTE]

What about sitting down did you have to keep moving it to face up and make adjustments all day?
 
Guys, I have not forgotten about you. Penimasters latest email:

MSP Concept GmbH & Co. KG [email protected]
May 9

to me
Dear Mike,

we are working on the affiliation, first we had to mount our database do UTF-8 format and fix some other technical issues. I will keep you informed when it's finished.
Am Dienstag, 8. Mai 2012 um 17:50 schrieben Sie:
 
tbone77;482819 said:
i believe that most of us that have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] got the upgrade kit 2. it has the head attachment that fits the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. the head attachment is a little loose, but under tension, it works great. I go an hour and a half, and check things just to make sure that there's nothing going wrong. today, I wore the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and a divosuit to work...no issues, and it was on all day.

Oh, good information.
Where do I find this upgrade kit 2? Is it on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] website?
What is a divosuit?
I imagine that [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] stands for [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]?
So you have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base and bars with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] Head Suction attachement? Is this the upgrade kit you're talking about?
Thanks!
 
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MikeShlort;482933 said:
Oh, good information.
Where do I find this upgrade kit 2? Is it on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] website?
What is a divosuit?
I imagine that [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] stands for [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]?
So you have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base and bars with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] Head Suction attachement? Is this the upgrade kit you're talking about?
Thanks!

the one I ordered was upgrade kit 1....didn't come with the strap as I already have one from the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words]....

here's the link from which I ordered: https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/upgrade-kit-i-ce-54-27-27
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words] head attachment, the kit come with a head attachment which connects the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Just finished a 2 hour full tension session...now just relaxing with a good warm down and wearing the divosuit.

I seem to be one of these people that can pack on girth, but I have really struggled in the length portions of Penis Enlargement....hopefully I will see some good length gains along with some better flaccid hang.
 
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tbone77;482937 said:
the one I ordered was upgrade kit 1....didn't come with the strap as I already have one from the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words]....

here's the link from which I ordered: https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/upgrade-kit-i-ce-54-27-27

Wonderful, thank you for your help!
One last question... Does this thing work entirely on suction or is there glue involved also?
And what does the strap do, lol. Sorry, I'm new to these things. Is the strap just so you can hang?
 
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MikeShlort;482938 said:
Wonderful, thank you for your help!
One last question... Does this thing work entirely on suction or is there glue involved also?
And what does the strap do, lol. Sorry, I'm new to these things. Is the strap just so you can hang?

the strap makes it an all day stretching device....I prefer to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] works on suction, but you put on a lube that has some tack to it, it helps form the seal inside so you don't get bad fluid retention/blisters. I flat out can't get it on without the lube.
 
tbone77;482940 said:
the strap makes it an all day stretching device....I prefer to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] works on suction, but you put on a lube that has some tack to it, it helps form the seal inside so you don't get bad fluid retention/blisters. I flat out can't get it on without the lube.

Okay, thanks again.
Is the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] attachment one size fits all?
And also, is it easy to get the refills of the lube? I can see myself running out often as I piss frequently
 
MikeShlort;483076 said:
Okay, thanks again.
Is the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] attachment one size fits all?
And also, is it easy to get the refills of the lube? I can see myself running out often as I piss frequently

the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is one size fits all. I have had it for a few months, and the lube it came with is still more than 3/4 full. It takes very little lube as you only need enough to help create a seal. you could more than likely use another brand of lube, as long as it has some viscose to it....I am not going to pay for international shipping for bottle of lube.....maybe one of the others here can suggest a good alternate....I'm sure dickleaker is on his 4th bottle....lol
 
tbone77;483078 said:
the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is one size fits all. I have had it for a few months, and the lube it came with is still more than 3/4 full. It takes very little lube as you only need enough to help create a seal. you could more than likely use another brand of lube, as long as it has some viscose to it....I am not going to pay for international shipping for bottle of lube.....maybe one of the others here can suggest a good alternate....I'm sure dickleaker is on his 4th bottle....lol

Okay, thanks for all your help dude, I seriously appreciate it.
I am at the point where I thoroughly believe in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] but the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is just hurting so bad... I take it off every 40 min and re-apply.... I'm sure it's better to keep on for 2 hours at a time without a break.

Does the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] give you just as good a pull as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]'s strap did?

Also, that German link you gave me, is there where you ordered from, you had no trouble getting your order?
 
the stretch is better, and it's totally comfortable. that was the link from which I ordered mine from. shipping was a little over 2 weeks, but I live in the states. I know some have had some issues, but I think for the most part, everyone had theirs within 3 weeks.
 
tbone77;483082 said:
the stretch is better, and it's totally comfortable. that was the link from which I ordered mine from. shipping was a little over 2 weeks, but I live in the states. I know some have had some issues, but I think for the most part, everyone had theirs within 3 weeks.

Wonderful, thanks man.

One thing... what is a divosuit?
 
divosuit=one piece spandex [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words]'s wrap. good for keeping the flaccid penis in an extended state....great for healing and cementing gains.
 
tbone77;483084 said:
divosuit=one piece spandex [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words]'s wrap. good for keeping the flaccid penis in an extended state....great for healing and cementing gains.

I don't know if you'd know the answer to this, but do some people say to wrap the penis up like that and then hang so you get the full force of the stretch right on the base of the penis (or ligaments) as opposed to hanging from the head and having the whole penis stretch? Like would they be saying to wrap it up so the whole shaft is pulled as one unit to localize the stretch to the base?
 
doublelongdaddy;482922 said:
Guys, I have not forgotten about you. Penimasters latest email:

MSP Concept GmbH & Co. KG [email protected]
May 9

to me
Dear Mike,

we are working on the affiliation, first we had to mount our database do UTF-8 format and fix some other technical issues. I will keep you informed when it's finished.
Am Dienstag, 8. Mai 2012 um 17:50 schrieben Sie:

Have you got any idea how much the discount will be? They used to give 18% if you had proof that you had bought a different [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] other than a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words].
 
8incyclops;483087 said:
Have you got any idea how much the discount will be? They used to give 18% if you had proof that you had bought a different [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] other than a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words].

That is wonderful information, thanks!
At what site do they give the discount?
 
MikeShlort;483085 said:
I don't know if you'd know the answer to this, but do some people say to wrap the penis up like that and then hang so you get the full force of the stretch right on the base of the penis (or ligaments) as opposed to hanging from the head and having the whole penis stretch? Like would they be saying to wrap it up so the whole shaft is pulled as one unit to localize the stretch to the base?

Could an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] be used instead of a divosuit/uncle jim's wrap? Or would you wear the divosuit when not wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
MikeShlort;483092 said:
Could an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] be used instead of a divosuit/uncle jim's wrap? Or would you wear the divosuit when not wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] would be better for more tension but not as comfortable,i plan to wear my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] for a set number of hours then for comfort and to sleep in use the DivoSuit,maybe with the Divocup on.Do people sleep with the Divocup and Suit on the guy who makes them says it's ok.
That discount is no longer active it was earlier in the year i sent them a email about it haven't got a reply yet.
 
the divocup is [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] device that works with the aid of gravity. sleeping with it on may not do a whole lot. if you want to sleep with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words], you would have to use a strap of some sort, either the one from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] for 8 bucks, or get the one from [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words], but that was a lot more expensive.
 
8incyclops;483087 said:
Have you got any idea how much the discount will be? They used to give 18% if you had proof that you had bought a different [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] other than a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words].


I think they have something else in mind and this is why the programming is taking so long.
 
Yes, Floppy even with this discount it will cost you north of $250 easily!

You can go with upgrade kit 1 if you already have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but it's still going to cost you close to $200.

Honestly, this discount is not as good as what I was hoping for... it's still very expensive!!!

But we still gotta thank DLD for trying.. better than nothing I suppose...
 
Guys its best investment you will make for long sessions with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].The only limit is with your time available not the pain induced from an attaching strap.So 200 for a bigger erect cock is worth every dollar.
hunghorse;483731 said:
Yes, Floppy even with this discount it will cost you north of $250 easily!

You can go with upgrade kit 1 if you already have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but it's still going to cost you close to $200.

Honestly, this discount is not as good as what I was hoping for... it's still very expensive!!!

But we still gotta thank DLD for trying.. better than nothing I suppose...
 
true i cant put a price on a bigger dick to be honest. what u guys think would be the best free extras to get with the purchase? is the hose whats the hose attachment for if you get the ball pump? im thinking just to grab extra latex thingees.
 
hookedonpe;483739 said:
true i cant put a price on a bigger dick to be honest. what u guys think would be the best free extras to get with the purchase? is the hose whats the hose attachment for if you get the ball pump? im thinking just to grab extra latex thingees.

i got the hose attachment, and I am glad I did as I had a hard time getting it on with the pump ball. as far as other extras, you could get extra lube and extra rubber parts. the deal that dld got wasn't what I thought it would be, but as the saying goes, it's better than a sharp stick in the eye. it's basically 30 dollars of free extras if I understand the deal right...
 
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