Results of 5 weeks of Clamping Everyday with minimal Rest

10inchadvantage said:
I don't think I could stop for even two weeks of doing Penis Enlargement, unless I was on a trip to Europe or somewhere.
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I'm the same way. Addicted. but wait for 2 years with no gains, and you'll be willing to try anything for gains... well, almost anything :p
 
gimmegirth said:
Very interesting thread. I to have been using the no rest approach for 5-6 weeks also... but I seem to have gained! I took fri, sat, sun off (adventure trip, so cold and wet) then measured today, I've gained .2" in midshaft girth.
I'm also a hard gainer as girth is concerned so I'm over the moon with this gain.
Also, as I'm pumped pretty much 24/7 I'm usally .3-.4 up in girth.

I work at least twice a day with adc at night. The focus in these sessions is expansion, so I always have the tape handy.
I use a mix of Dash wraps (cloth) with SSJ and Wall Presses then Dash wrap with rope for final girth measurement... aim at .5 increase.

I'll try this IPR theory if I stop gaining and see how it goes.

Chi's tunica finding is VERY interesting also and needs looking into.
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Can you post a link?
Chi is another one of those very well informed members at MOS. Would love to know what he thinks about this.
 
I'm still pretty new at Penis Enlargement but this is the first that I am hearing regarding the buildup of collagen being negative and as a result of Penis Enlargement. I thought it was true that the very actions of Penis Enlargement were what caused gains and don't remember hearing anything about the body trying to combat it.

I'm really confused by this post as it relates to all of the routines I have seen to date.

Currently I wet jelq 2x a day 400 each session with DLD A stretches - pretty much following phase 2 as best I can. The time committment is pretty steep but I have been forcing myself to comply - trying to gain as much as I can as quickly as possible.

What are the vets opinions on this post? - it is very scientific which leads me to believe that it is valid (as a non-math guy I have trouble following it).
 
You seem to have made all your gains during 30-day hardcore, avoid ejaculation periods...following a decon break. On average, how long were the decon breaks before you jumped beack into it? Also, did you do any maintenance routines following the 30-day hardcore period?

The reason I ask is that I might be needing a decon pretty soon. I haven't had as much as one month off since april, and the longest period I've had off since then has been one day here and there. I am not sure how long to decon, or if any maintenance is needed while I decon. Would you say something like 3-6 months of Penis Enlargement followed by 1-2 months off is a good idea?
 
GM, I wouldn't over think this issue. The best way I can tell you is to decon for a month or so, if you feel like you need a longer break go for it. If you feel like you need 203 days off go for it. Sometimes it's the mental aspect of Penis Enlargement that can get to us, and with IPR that kind of eleminates the mental grind, as well as the idea of I MUST Penis Enlargement, BECAUSE I MUST Penis Enlargement. I notice that after 2-3 days of no Penis Enlargement that I want to Penis Enlargement but also the my penis is ready to Penis Enlargement again.

With things like tissue hardening and too frequent sessions, then a decon break really is a must. Tissue hardening is usually pretty apparent when your skin gets to feeling sort of tough and beat up as well as the penis not being as reactive to the exercises you perform. For me it's most noticeable in erection quality and how my penis reacts to manual stretching. If I'm really loose and pliable during my stretching sessions it's a good day but if there's little to no bounce back and my penis is kind of "dead" then I know I need a few days rest for things to return to normal.
 
goldmember said:
You seem to have made all your gains during 30-day hardcore, avoid ejaculation periods...following a decon break. On average, how long were the decon breaks before you jumped beack into it? Also, did you do any maintenance routines following the 30-day hardcore period?

The reason I ask is that I might be needing a decon pretty soon. I haven't had as much as one month off since april, and the longest period I've had off since then has been one day here and there. I am not sure how long to decon, or if any maintenance is needed while I decon. Would you say something like 3-6 months of Penis Enlargement followed by 1-2 months off is a good idea?
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well my gains were 30 days on, and then completely off usually... i'd get too gain happy.

The IPR theory basically says Inflamation, Proliferation and Remodelling.

so inflamation is when you Penis Enlargement, and you cause micro tears, proliferation is when your dick fills these micro tears with new tissue, and remodelling is when the gains become permanent, and the tissue deconditions from the stress..


supposedly, you can gain for the first 2 weeks, up to 0.5 inches in length adn 0.125 in girth or more if ur routine is girth based... but if u keep Penis Enlargement'ing you can only gain 25% more before ur gains come to stop... but Xeno's experiments shwoed that if you go more than 2 weeks of Penis Enlargement then you need at least 3-4 months off Penis Enlargement to decondition and turn you're delaying ur next cycles gains.


so the IPR says, Penis Enlargement for 2 weeks, one day ON, damage your penis for X amount of time. so X amount of jelqs or like X number of minutes clamping.

then wear an ADS for the rest of the day if your working length, or a cock ring ADC/ANC if ur working girth, and let the proliferation which means making new meat happen in an extended state or the whole 'healing in an extended state' that BIB used to talk about. then Rest for 2 days. When you Penis Enlargement again on the 4th day, do 10% more work than the previous time, so either increase the number of jelqs, or increase the amount of time in the clamp by 10%. and keep doing this... by the 12th day, you should be doing everything 1.5 times the original time you started.



So this was the MICRO PHASE IPR. the Macro phase is like this. All you did the past two weeks, counts as the I stage, or Inflamation.

so now you let your cock proliferate, and you ADS or ADC/ANC for 4 weeks. But it has to be light enough to just barely keep your penis in an extended state and not cause anymore Inflamation.

This will make sure you cement the gains and don't lose anything when you rest.

Also, he recommends ADS and ADC'ing alot at first and tapering it down to very little gradually by the end of the 4 week period so you ease into the rest period. If you were to compeletly rest all of a sudden you'd definately lose gains.


you then go to the R (Remodelling or Rest) stage, and you basically do NOTHING, and let your penis get deconditioned.


and you repeat.



I'm thinking, if i gain 0.5" EL and 0.125" EG every cycle, then after 2 cycles,
I'll be at 8 1/4 EL and 6.5+ EG. which is very good size. 2 more cycles, will put me in the 9+ EL and 6.75 EG range.


but since this routine is so easy and carefree, 4 cycles is a breeze.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
supposedly, you can gain for the first 2 weeks, up to 0.5 inches in length adn 0.125 in girth or more if ur routine is girth based... but if u keep Penis Enlargement'ing you can only gain 25% more before ur gains come to stop... but Xeno's experiments shwoed that if you go more than 2 weeks of Penis Enlargement then you need at least 3-4 months off Penis Enlargement to decondition and turn you're delaying ur next cycles gains.
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But what if you don't gain in those first 2 weeks? You seem to get incredibly quick gains, what if two weeks is never enough to produce those quick gains? Recently I have been Penis Enlargement'ing basically one week on one week off. I just started again tonight after two weeks off. I work hard everyday for one week, sometimes twice a day, keep a cockring on day and night. Then I break for a week. Anyone else do one week on one week off?
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The Mason said:
Vaseline_Knight said:
supposedly, you can gain for the first 2 weeks, up to 0.5 inches in length adn 0.125 in girth or more if ur routine is girth based... but if u keep Penis Enlargement'ing you can only gain 25% more before ur gains come to stop... but Xeno's experiments shwoed that if you go more than 2 weeks of Penis Enlargement then you need at least 3-4 months off Penis Enlargement to decondition and turn you're delaying ur next cycles gains.
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But what if you don't gain in those first 2 weeks? You seem to get incredibly quick gains, what if two weeks is never enough to produce those quick gains? Recently I have been Penis Enlargement'ing basically one week on one week off. I just started again tonight after two weeks off. I work hard everyday for one week, sometimes twice a day, keep a cockring on day and night. Then I break for a week. Anyone else do one week on one week off?
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well if you don't gain quick during that intial 2 week period, it means that you've not deconditioned enough. doing one week on and one week off doesn't at all allow for deconditioning to happen. Also, working at it everyday, apparently overtrains you. There's a very narrow region of operation to be working in to gain. 1 day on, and 2 days off seems to be it.

I haven't tried IPR myself as suggest, but I have gained very simliar to the theory suggests.
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VK that was a very solid breakdown of IPR, and I haven't seen it done so thuroughly on either board. Good work. I have to say that the IPR theory is interesting, but like other Penis Enlargement theories it has it's detractors and it's supporters.

Personally, I like the idea of rest and IPR explains the reasons for rest, but I enjoy Penis Enlargement and have gained doing what I am currently doing which is to Penis Enlargement for 1-2 days and rest for 2-3 days. This keeps me from going crazy with too much Penis Enlargement and not enough so that I feel like I'm accomplishing something and not just being a lazy bastard. Decon breaks are necessary for most of the guys here on the board who have been at it a while and not gained. The IPR idea is sound, but as far as total implementation I highly doubt that I'll ever follow it exactly.

VK, do you know anything about ADC??? I've tried this once or twice before but I can never seem to get a good setup. I like ADS for both length and girth because if you're at a higher angle the tension is still on the tunica making it more elastic.
 
millionman said:
VK that was a very solid breakdown of IPR, and I haven't seen it done so thuroughly on either board. Good work. I have to say that the IPR theory is interesting, but like other Penis Enlargement theories it has it's detractors and it's supporters.

Personally, I like the idea of rest and IPR explains the reasons for rest, but I enjoy Penis Enlargement and have gained doing what I am currently doing which is to Penis Enlargement for 1-2 days and rest for 2-3 days. This keeps me from going crazy with too much Penis Enlargement and not enough so that I feel like I'm accomplishing something and not just being a lazy bastard. Decon breaks are necessary for most of the guys here on the board who have been at it a while and not gained. The IPR idea is sound, but as far as total implementation I highly doubt that I'll ever follow it exactly.

VK, do you know anything about ADC??? I've tried this once or twice before but I can never seem to get a good setup. I like ADS for both length and girth because if you're at a higher angle the tension is still on the tunica making it more elastic.
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Thanks for the compliment buddy. Xenolith is an engineer, like myself, and his reasoning and thought patterns almost exactly match mine. When I was searching his threads I was surprised to find so many things that I have hypothesized about Penis Enlargement being mentioned in almost the exact same way by him. But his way of explaining his thoughts is too complex, and at times very mathematical. I'm sure anyone with 2-3 years of university calculus would be able to follow what he's saying to the point, but most people don't have the patience to read a 30+ page thread for the sake of one 'Theory'.

Your routine seems fine to me.. and if you're gaining, that's all you need to decide if you should keep doing it or not. Perhaps you did decondition from your hardcore Penis Enlargement routine and now you're successfully keeping in the 'Gain Zone' with this plan.


About your question. Yes, I have quite the background with ADS (meaning I own both an Extender and the Autoextender flexible silicone ADS with leg strap). There was a period of time that I tried wearing the extender but I didn't gain from it, probably because I could only wear it an hour at a time, and it didn't match my lifestyle... very uncomfortable.


ADC, and ANC, I haven't actually tried it with the cable clamps as some suggest. I have purchased the Stallion Cock Cushion Set from CTC, and am very impressed with them. I bought the whole set of 5 cushions, that vary in tensile strength, and hence the amount of constriction they provide. The model E is the only one I find I can wear comfortably all day. It gives an amazing flacid hang, and keeps you from 'retracting' and getting thin while not Penis Enlargement'ing.

ANC, I can only keep it on at night for 2 hours or so and I wake up and am forced to take it off.

One Note about ADC: The instruction set for the silicone rings says you have to use a non petroleum based lube and to either buy their lube or use a water based one. I recommend not using a lube at all. but take a piece of paper towel and fold it till its 2 inches wide, and wrap with it, then put the cushion on top of that. You wont even feel the cushion there.
 
Will you marry me, VK?

LMAO

I don't buy into IPR 100%, but see a lot of merit in the theory. I think my clamping twice per day, seven days per week, with ANC is a bit over the top now that I get your perspective on it. At least for longer than 30 days at a time. I don't know if once every three days is enough however, and certainly not five times every four to six months! That's going a little extreme, don't you think?

Say if I were to go two weeks of very hardcore Penis Enlargement...doing 30 minutes of clamping in the morning, 100 wet jelqs every hour for ten hours during the day, then another 30 minutes of clamping before bedtime, then ANC for half the night; repeat for two weeks every single day. Then, the next four weeks of ADC and ANC as the sole means of training, slowly tapering down on the ADC/ANC. Take a few months totally off, and then repeat.

First of all, do you think the two-week hardcore session is "too much"? It is only for two weeks, but you might think that is too much, I dunno...overall, do you think it could work, not taking the two days rest as recommended?

REGARDS
 
GM, are you serious about 100 jelqs every hour for 10 hours? If you are, how in the world can you manage that?

I don't know but honestly the whole routine sounds a bit much, of course that's from someone who doesn't really like to go more than an hour sitting in one place. When I went hardcore, I had Red put together a routine, and I was so bruised and beat up that I could barely get into my jeans without screaming. There's a really fine line between Penis Enlargementing in a healthy way and being completely unhealthy. I say that a good routine utilizing a one-on-one off routine would look something like 1 1- minute set in pump, and then 1 ten minute set in clamp and repeat for another set, and on your 'off' day you could possibly do 200-300 wet jelqs. I believe that jelqing is a healing exercise that promotes proper blood flow and for me it really helps to clear fluid buildup quickly, while also promoting overall penile health. I think that's a much better approach to gaining in the long term. When it comes to off days I usually do take completely off, but I've been considering an ADS and jelq only day and seeing how that goes. We shall see.
 
goldmember said:
Will you marry me, VK?

LMAO

I don't buy into IPR 100%, but see a lot of merit in the theory. I think my clamping twice per day, seven days per week, with ANC is a bit over the top now that I get your perspective on it. At least for longer than 30 days at a time. I don't know if once every three days is enough however, and certainly not five times every four to six months! That's going a little extreme, don't you think?

Say if I were to go two weeks of very hardcore Penis Enlargement...doing 30 minutes of clamping in the morning, 100 wet jelqs every hour for ten hours during the day, then another 30 minutes of clamping before bedtime, then ANC for half the night; repeat for two weeks every single day. Then, the next four weeks of ADC and ANC as the sole means of training, slowly tapering down on the ADC/ANC. Take a few months totally off, and then repeat.

First of all, do you think the two-week hardcore session is "too much"? It is only for two weeks, but you might think that is too much, I dunno...overall, do you think it could work, not taking the two days rest as recommended?

REGARDS
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Well here's the thing. While Penis Enlargement'ing, we're causing damage to our penile tissue. We don't wanna go after a fly with a bazooka here. I believe that an 'optimal' amount of damage sends the signal for the body to repair it bigger. we dont wanna overload the body. This principle applies to anything biological. A certain amount of something can be good while too much of it will possibly kill you. The principles of homeopathic remedies is just that.

Same principle holds in bodybuilding. While training in the 8-12 rep region for under 47 mins leads to gains, anything more than that not only stops gains but sends you to a catabolic stage where you lose the muscle you already have as well and you will be prone to injury.


I think the beauty of IPR is that you have to do a routine, then increase it by 10% everytime to keep your body guessing.

You can try both and see which works better for you. I would think that is way too much for me. And I'm a very seasoned Clamper.






And regarding your marriage proposal.... We already talked about this.... not until you reach 9x8.>:(
 
EVO said:
that theory is interesting, altough i simply could not imagine peing 5 times every 3 months (not including p phase) and seeing awesome results. has anyone used this theory (to the word) and gained big?
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i cant see that being true. i worked with rest days early in my Penis Enlargement and never noticed any gains. once i picked up intensity and the 2 a day routine, only then i started gaining. with me, i recover VERY QUICKLY and rarely get sore. im bout to hit the 2 month mark, and im lookin at almost an inch in lenght.
 
ithiel said:
i cant see that being true. i worked with rest days early in my Penis Enlargement and never noticed any gains. once i picked up intensity and the 2 a day routine, only then i started gaining. with me, i recover VERY QUICKLY and rarely get sore. im bout to hit the 2 month mark, and im lookin at almost an inch in lenght.
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That's some amazing gains.
 
ithiel said:
i cant see that being true. i worked with rest days early in my Penis Enlargement and never noticed any gains. once i picked up intensity and the 2 a day routine, only then i started gaining. with me, i recover VERY QUICKLY and rarely get sore. im bout to hit the 2 month mark, and im lookin at almost an inch in lenght.
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it may be different for everyone based on their healing ability. i think i recover slowly and that for me an intense session every other day would be beneficial. i can also see merit in the deconditioning phase for 1-2 months, because when we are newbies we gain quick then our penis gets conditioned so we stop gaining, a solution to some (certainly mine) is to increase intensity and workout frequency. but now i think that leads to overtraining. ive just started clamping, when i finish a month i will try this ipr method :)
 
ithiel said:
i cant see that being true. i worked with rest days early in my Penis Enlargement and never noticed any gains. once i picked up intensity and the 2 a day routine, only then i started gaining. with me, i recover VERY QUICKLY and rarely get sore. im bout to hit the 2 month mark, and im lookin at almost an inch in lenght.
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You're still new at this, and your gains are newbie gains. Enjoy them as your penis will soon get conditioned to the applied stress, and your gains will hit a brick wall. Then, after a good while of trying every routine out there and not gaining, if your still Penis Enlargement'ing and havent given up, you might see a point in deconditioning.

I should also add, I HATE not Penis Enlargement'ing. I'm ADC/ANC'ing right now as the only form of Penis Enlargement and even so I feel like a junkie with no drugs. I truely see merit in the deconditioning theory and that's why I'm willing to torture myself with not Penis Enlargement'ing.


Hopefully, when you see a thread "Results of 3 Months of IPR by Vaseline_Knight", I'll have some solid gains to report :blush: .

If not, I'm gonna have to take Goldmember's Hand in marriage. <:(
 
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