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I have been inactive in the PE world for several years, but saw great gains when I was actively working out. I have a PE log on another forum that I would be happy to copy and paste here with the mod's permission, or at least a few excerpts (it's 160 pages). My very first post in my Chemical PE Log, followed by a few other relevant, early posts....

"Someone posted a comment on the LOT theory on another thread. Many, including me, consider the LOT theory bogus. It only relates to any length gain you can achieve through (suspensory) ligament stretching anyway, which is minimal and finite. Real growth occurs in expanding smooth muscle tissue and especially in breaking down the real limiting factor, the tunica, and forcing it to grow. Without getting the super-tough tunica to grow you will only gain girth. That's why I believe that chemicals are the answer to real penis enlargement."

"I have been doing chemical PE for four weeks. I have only been doing my full protocol for the past two weeks.


I have 13 hours so far this week (4 sessions). Today is the last day of my weekly protocol. I am up to 18 mcg of PGE-1, which gives me a pretty reliable 3 to 4 hours.

My daily protocol follows:

18 mcg PGE-1
100 mcg TB4
20 mcg IGF-1LR3
2.5 grams Andractim

1 20-minute hanging set @18 pounds
1 20-minute bathmate session

manual stretching"


"PGE1, in particular, has two functions. It brings the tunica to its knees, softening the collagen housing of the corpus cavernosa (see attached diagram), forcing it to grow with the internal pressure we feel as pain during a PGE1-induced erection.

The tunica, which I consider the real limiting factor in penis enlargement, has two or three layers of tough collagen (some guys have only two layers, some have three, which is tougher).

So, I believe that if you can figure out the best way to get your tunica to stretch then you will have figured out the secret to penis enlargement. I believe a combination of jelqing, stretching, and chemicals will do the trick.

Understanding the anatomy of the penis, I believe, is very important. Even though it is not labeled in the attached diagram, the tunica is that layer of collagen you see housing the corpus cavernosa. It is also the resistance we experience when trying to push the pin into our units. That's my two cents for the day."

"I believe that hanging, like jelqing works, you just have to have Mr. Johnson in the proper state of submission, if you will, for growth, which is where the chems come in.

I have just within the past few days begun hanging low weight (5 pounds) for three 20-minute sets a few hours after pinning. You know that point where the erection has subsided yet mild pain is still there? I believe that that mild pain is the tunica having been pushed greatly from the inside out and puts it at its most vulnerable point for mechanical manipulation, i.e., stretching via hanging. Just a theory but I'm all over it. Even just five pounds four hours after pinning hurts like hell! I am used to hanging as much as 30 pounds. NO WAY could I do that four hours after PGE1. I think it would rip my dick off.

Sometimes I look at the shit we men do to try to improve ourselves. I try to look at it from an outside observer's perspective, and I always arrive at the same conclusion....we are some crazy motherfuckers! Maybe we'll be looked upon as pioneers and heroes one day, but today....we are crazy motherfuckers!"


These were posted in July, 2012. From what I learned, the best routine is the PGE1 formula I posted above, and hanging 17 to 20 pounds in 20 minute sets at least twice a day. I gained 1 1/2 inches of girth (from 4 1/2" to over 6") and a couple inches of length. I kept the girth. The length I can't tell because of ED. Ronielle, a PE pioneer was a friend in those days. We spoke often. He was a big fan of jelqing 45 minutes a day. I hate jelqing, so I was using my PGE1 cocktail for girth and hanging for length. It worked very well! I am seriously considering getting back into PE.
 
I have been inactive in the PE world for several years, but saw great gains when I was actively working out. I have a PE log on another forum that I would be happy to copy and paste here with the mod's permission, or at least a few excerpts (it's 160 pages). My very first post in my Chemical PE Log, followed by a few other relevant, early posts....

"Someone posted a comment on the LOT theory on another thread. Many, including me, consider the LOT theory bogus. It only relates to any length gain you can achieve through (suspensory) ligament stretching anyway, which is minimal and finite. Real growth occurs in expanding smooth muscle tissue and especially in breaking down the real limiting factor, the tunica, and forcing it to grow. Without getting the super-tough tunica to grow you will only gain girth. That's why I believe that chemicals are the answer to real penis enlargement."

"I have been doing chemical PE for four weeks. I have only been doing my full protocol for the past two weeks.


I have 13 hours so far this week (4 sessions). Today is the last day of my weekly protocol. I am up to 18 mcg of PGE-1, which gives me a pretty reliable 3 to 4 hours.

My daily protocol follows:

18 mcg PGE-1
100 mcg TB4
20 mcg IGF-1LR3
2.5 grams Andractim

1 20-minute hanging set @18 pounds
1 20-minute bathmate session

manual stretching"


"PGE1, in particular, has two functions. It brings the tunica to its knees, softening the collagen housing of the corpus cavernosa (see attached diagram), forcing it to grow with the internal pressure we feel as pain during a PGE1-induced erection.

The tunica, which I consider the real limiting factor in penis enlargement, has two or three layers of tough collagen (some guys have only two layers, some have three, which is tougher).

So, I believe that if you can figure out the best way to get your tunica to stretch then you will have figured out the secret to penis enlargement. I believe a combination of jelqing, stretching, and chemicals will do the trick.

Understanding the anatomy of the penis, I believe, is very important. Even though it is not labeled in the attached diagram, the tunica is that layer of collagen you see housing the corpus cavernosa. It is also the resistance we experience when trying to push the pin into our units. That's my two cents for the day."

"I believe that hanging, like jelqing works, you just have to have Mr. Johnson in the proper state of submission, if you will, for growth, which is where the chems come in.

I have just within the past few days begun hanging low weight (5 pounds) for three 20-minute sets a few hours after pinning. You know that point where the erection has subsided yet mild pain is still there? I believe that that mild pain is the tunica having been pushed greatly from the inside out and puts it at its most vulnerable point for mechanical manipulation, i.e., stretching via hanging. Just a theory but I'm all over it. Even just five pounds four hours after pinning hurts like hell! I am used to hanging as much as 30 pounds. NO WAY could I do that four hours after PGE1. I think it would rip my dick off.

Sometimes I look at the shit we men do to try to improve ourselves. I try to look at it from an outside observer's perspective, and I always arrive at the same conclusion....we are some crazy motherfuckers! Maybe we'll be looked upon as pioneers and heroes one day, but today....we are crazy motherfuckers!"


These were posted in July, 2012. From what I learned, the best routine is the PGE1 formula I posted above, and hanging 17 to 20 pounds in 20 minute sets at least twice a day. I gained 1 1/2 inches of girth (from 4 1/2" to over 6") and a couple inches of length. I kept the girth. The length I can't tell because of ED. Ronielle, a PE pioneer was a friend in those days. We spoke often. He was a big fan of jelqing 45 minutes a day. I hate jelqing, so I was using my PGE1 cocktail for girth and hanging for length. It worked very well! I am seriously considering getting back into PE.
I hope you get back into PE. Because that's where you're gonna make your best gains ever.
 
@OMG!! I recommend you to get on:
đź”— Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition program.

You will gain so fast if you optimize everything according to SRT. You don't need to do it exactly as prescribed, but you can use the knowledge that is learned in the theory of that program to gain big. The healing portion of that program is so important.

You don't need to add drugs to your body in order to grow. You can grow fast without it.

So, I believe that if you can figure out the best way to get your tunica to stretch then you will have figured out the secret to penis enlargement.
Bundled stretches, Girth program Girth program (SRT 5x5x3) and SRT - Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory, then you are good.
 
I have been inactive in the PE world for several years, but saw great gains when I was actively working out. I have a PE log on another forum that I would be happy to copy and paste here with the mod's permission, or at least a few excerpts (it's 160 pages). My very first post in my Chemical PE Log, followed by a few other relevant, early posts....

"Someone posted a comment on the LOT theory on another thread. Many, including me, consider the LOT theory bogus. It only relates to any length gain you can achieve through (suspensory) ligament stretching anyway, which is minimal and finite. Real growth occurs in expanding smooth muscle tissue and especially in breaking down the real limiting factor, the tunica, and forcing it to grow. Without getting the super-tough tunica to grow you will only gain girth. That's why I believe that chemicals are the answer to real penis enlargement."

"I have been doing chemical PE for four weeks. I have only been doing my full protocol for the past two weeks.


I have 13 hours so far this week (4 sessions). Today is the last day of my weekly protocol. I am up to 18 mcg of PGE-1, which gives me a pretty reliable 3 to 4 hours.

My daily protocol follows:

18 mcg PGE-1
100 mcg TB4
20 mcg IGF-1LR3
2.5 grams Andractim

1 20-minute hanging set @18 pounds
1 20-minute bathmate session

manual stretching"


"PGE1, in particular, has two functions. It brings the tunica to its knees, softening the collagen housing of the corpus cavernosa (see attached diagram), forcing it to grow with the internal pressure we feel as pain during a PGE1-induced erection.

The tunica, which I consider the real limiting factor in penis enlargement, has two or three layers of tough collagen (some guys have only two layers, some have three, which is tougher).

So, I believe that if you can figure out the best way to get your tunica to stretch then you will have figured out the secret to penis enlargement. I believe a combination of jelqing, stretching, and chemicals will do the trick.

Understanding the anatomy of the penis, I believe, is very important. Even though it is not labeled in the attached diagram, the tunica is that layer of collagen you see housing the corpus cavernosa. It is also the resistance we experience when trying to push the pin into our units. That's my two cents for the day."

"I believe that hanging, like jelqing works, you just have to have Mr. Johnson in the proper state of submission, if you will, for growth, which is where the chems come in.

I have just within the past few days begun hanging low weight (5 pounds) for three 20-minute sets a few hours after pinning. You know that point where the erection has subsided yet mild pain is still there? I believe that that mild pain is the tunica having been pushed greatly from the inside out and puts it at its most vulnerable point for mechanical manipulation, i.e., stretching via hanging. Just a theory but I'm all over it. Even just five pounds four hours after pinning hurts like hell! I am used to hanging as much as 30 pounds. NO WAY could I do that four hours after PGE1. I think it would rip my dick off.

Sometimes I look at the shit we men do to try to improve ourselves. I try to look at it from an outside observer's perspective, and I always arrive at the same conclusion....we are some crazy motherfuckers! Maybe we'll be looked upon as pioneers and heroes one day, but today....we are crazy motherfuckers!"


These were posted in July, 2012. From what I learned, the best routine is the PGE1 formula I posted above, and hanging 17 to 20 pounds in 20 minute sets at least twice a day. I gained 1 1/2 inches of girth (from 4 1/2" to over 6") and a couple inches of length. I kept the girth. The length I can't tell because of ED. Ronielle, a PE pioneer was a friend in those days. We spoke often. He was a big fan of jelqing 45 minutes a day. I hate jelqing, so I was using my PGE1 cocktail for girth and hanging for length. It worked very well! I am seriously considering getting back into PE.


For the PGE1 you inject it into your penis correct?
 
I believe this thread is in the wrong forum..I'm moving it.
 
Where is it moved to?
 
I don’t think I could inject chemicals into my junk. I’ll stick to stretching, but it is fascinating to read.

I can see it now in the future a new chemical is made to increase penile size and performance everyone has the big D! So easy : )
 
Oh I get now the chemicals are breaking down the tunica making easier to stretch. Still too risky. How much have you gained so far in length?
 
Oh I get now the chemicals are breaking down the tunica making easier to stretch. Still too risky. How much have you gained so far in length?

The chemical is causing an erection for 4-6 hours which is breaking down the tunica I believe
 
The chemical is causing an erection for 4-6 hours which is breaking down the tunica I believe

Holy Shit! 4–6 hrs I think I would be dead that’s crazy
 
Too crazy for me
 
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Holy Shit! 4–6 hrs I think I would be dead that’s crazy

Yeah that’s a long time to stay erect. And you’d have to be at home
 
Yeah that’s a long time to stay erect. And you’d have to be at home

Agree it sounds dangerous to me. Are you doing chemical PE yourself?
 
@OMG!! How much have you gained from this. If it's less then 3 Inches in length (BPEL) within a year it is not worth it.

I would never consider this. It is not on my map đź—ş.
That is the reason I moved it to a different forum. This is not conventional penis enlargement as we know it.

But if this works really good. It would be amazing. But without a doctors supervision, we can never recommend it.

Please tell us more about everything you're doing.
You can post everything here in this thread. As long as it's orginal content, and not copied from somewhere else.
 
Oh I get now the chemicals are breaking down the tunica making easier to stretch. Still too risky. How much have you gained so far in length?
I gained about two inches in length, but that was all from stretching, which works really well. And, it wasn't over a long period of time, like six months or so. My girth gains were from PGE1 primarily, a drug commonly used to treat ED, so it isn't dangerous unless you pin excessive dosages (not wise). I am a believer that PGE1 brings the tough tunica to its knees and forces it to submit to remodeling. That is where great, quick gains happen. That is, of course, my opinion, based upon my own experience.
 
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I hope you get back into PE. Because that's where you're gonna make your best gains ever.
Hey, DLD! I remember you from back in the day. Is Kingsnake still around?
 
I gained about two inches in length, but that was all from stretching, which works really well. And, it wasn't over a long period of time, like six months or so. My girth gains were from PGE1 primarily, a drug commonly used to treat ED, so it isn't dangerous unless you pin excessive dosages (not wise). I am a believer that PGE1 brings the tough tunica to its knees and forces it to submit to remodeling. That is where great, quick gains happen. That is, of course, my opinion, based upon my own experience.

How long did it take you to gain that 1 1/2 on girth back in 2012?
 
Hey, DLD! I remember you from back in the day. Is Kingsnake still around?

Kingsnake is hardly around nowadays.
 
I gained about two inches in length, but that was all from stretching, which works really well. And, it wasn't over a long period of time, like six months or so. My girth gains were from PGE1 primarily, a drug commonly used to treat ED, so it isn't dangerous unless you pin excessive dosages (not wise). I am a believer that PGE1 brings the tough tunica to its knees and forces it to submit to remodeling. That is where great, quick gains happen. That is, of course, my opinion, based upon my own experience.

What was your routine like ?
 
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