Vaseline_Knight

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Hey Everyone

As many of you know, 5 weeks ago, I decided to try for one month, to Clamp everyday, AM and PM, and take rests minimally.


The routine:



I averaged 65 minutes in the clamp, meaning some days more, some days less, but usually had 2-3 clamp sets in the morning, and 5-6 sets at night. I jelqed in between sets, and near the end of the month, tried clamping with a condom to minimize fluid buildup and maximize the strain on the Tunica, as I stated in a thread. Each clamp set lasted around 10-15 minutes.



I sat for 5 mins in the bath with HOT water as warm up. A MUST if u wanna clamp this intense. I followed this with 200 jelqs to 'prime' the penis for expansion, and I would do 100 jelqs at medium/high intensity (2 seconds each rep) between clamp sets.

How I clamp:

I wrap slightly above the base, and I put on the Air Clamp. Half of the wrap is under the Air Clamp, and half of it is above the clamp on my shaft. I get 100% errect, push the Air Clamp towards my pubic bone and then pump up.

I usually let this stay for the first set.

Second set, after 1-2 mins of being in the Air Clamp, I put a Cable Clamp on the wrap and tighten it a couple of clicks. The pressure is very intense and I've noticed if I don't progressively tighten I can get a little blood out of the urethra.

Third Set and up, I apply a second cable clamp. So in total one Air Clamp (mainly there for maintaining errection without need for ����) and 2 cable clamps (to provide intense pressure).


What My dick realized


Perhaps THE most interesting thing noted was that I rarely felt overworked or sore. Even after a very fatiguing set at night, I could easily train again in the morning with consitent post work out expansion of 0.5 to 1". My tunica wasn't getting overtrained in the sense that I wouldn't 'shrivel' up after workout and hung quite heavy throughout the day and woke up with great wood in the morning.

An unexpected Surprise (or as the chinese say SUPPLIES)

I was quite happy and convinced that such a consistant routine would lead to gains and that rest would only hinder gains. I had a 'special' night comming up so I decided to take one day, so that my errection doesn't suffer from the clamping (as it has once embaressed me with a dick that barely got to 5.5" EG cause i couldnt get fully hard.... I'd told her alot about my 'size' and earlier that day clamping had given me a 6.5" mid shaft girth, but when it got to it.. Mr. Willy was too tired to perform).

Anyhow, I took a day off, and the date got pushed back one day. So I had two days of no Penis Enlargement only to find out, on the date that my 'date' had JUST gotten her period.>:( ... the next day I went back to my Penis Enlargement with my pissed off penis and i did a good 10 minute warm up in the hot bath, did 200 warm up jelqs, and applied the air clamp the same way as I've explained above.

by the end of the first set, i noticed I had alot of little bruises / red spots all over my shaft and on my glans. ?:(?:( I applied the second set with an additional Cable Clamp. I could barely finish the set. I was feeling sooo much fatigue on the sides of my penis, exactly where the CC chambers are, and so much pressure right underneath the glans, around the CS chamber. All places where Tunica exists.

The next day, I tried to Penis Enlargement and found my penis to still be verryyy fatigued. It was as if I could feel little micro tears in the tunica.


Gains after 4 weeks on this routine

Next to none. My temporary post workout girth was getting more and more impressive, but my dry pre-Penis Enlargement girth hasn't changed much.




What I concluded

This got me thinking. How did this happen? I was never getting fatigued clamping INTENSLEY for around 65 mins on average, and yet 2 mild clamp sets exhausted my tunica more than all those days combined.

I realized, the 'Temp' Gains I was realizing everyday, wasnt necissarily fluid build up, but it wasn't 'Tunica break down and repaired as larger' either. What I realized was that my tunica was the same size as before, except it was now more flexible.

To the point that the internal pressure wasn't causing micro tears in the collegeneous tissue of the Tunica. The tissue had 'adjusted' to this routine everyday pressure and expanding accordingly to accomodate the internal pressure and prevent breakdown'.


Final Words

This was something I needed to do myself as I was always torn between the 'rest' school of thought, and the DLD/SWM 'no rest is needed' mind frame. Perhaps for some people this will work, but for me, I've definately come to the conclusion that the body adapts to this pressure with elasticity and though in the long run some gains might be made, its not optimal for girth.

While training length, this mentality might work, because as we train everyday, the Tunica gets more elastic and in turn better able to accomodate stress. Hangers can (and should) increase the weight needed to always keep the tunica in this increased elasticity state until platic deformation occurs and the tunica cannot go back to its original state.

With Girth, and Clamping, the pressure can only be increased to a certain degree, beyond which injury is inevitable. So I dont recomend training everyday if you wish to make Gains in girth.

It was OBVIOUS to me (after thinking about it quite a bit) that what happened to me was that my tunica had become too used to the pressure and was accomodating the pressure induced by clamping without losing elasticity and reaching plastic deformation.

What I believe will work, is if one Penis Enlargement's such that everytime we Penis Enlargement, that internal and Fascial (tunica) fatigue is felt. If we can train on this fine line, and Fatigue the Tunica just enough to break it down without letting it adapt to accomodate the internal pressure, then permanent girth gains will be realized.


I've been reading quite a bit on the IPR protocol today and yesterday, and found Xeno's findings to be in great agreement with what I went through this past month.

I'm gonna try and Penis Enlargement/Clamp 1 day on, 2 days off while ADC'ing those days to keep the penis in an expanded state for at least 4 hours a day, for a month, or something along those lines, and report back.

In the Penis Enlargement days, I will create an incremental increase in the tunica, and keep the penis slightly engorged to prevent the little tears to close up and from going back to their original state. (to heal in the extended state is what I'm shooting for)

Then I will create more micro tears. and so on.


I would appreciate any inputs on this or on the IPR protocol or any other rest theories out there.


Vkay
 
Interesting findings. I've noted similar changes in my penis' conditioning when I go everyday and when I go once every 2-3 days. The expansion is a bit less when I've rested more but my gains over the same time frame are greater. For me it's only been recently that I've started gaining in girth again, but I'm getting ever closer to 6" and that makes me happy. When I was working girth everyday for about a 6 month period, with the occasional missed day I gained about .25" and with this new 2-3 days in between sessions I'm close to gaining that in about 1/4 the time. Good experiment, and keep us posted on the IPR theory and what you experience.
 
millionman said:
Interesting findings. I've noted similar changes in my penis' conditioning when I go everyday and when I go once every 2-3 days. The expansion is a bit less when I've rested more but my gains over the same time frame are greater. For me it's only been recently that I've started gaining in girth again, but I'm getting ever closer to 6" and that makes me happy. When I was working girth everyday for about a 6 month period, with the occasional missed day I gained about .25" and with this new 2-3 days in between sessions I'm close to gaining that in about 1/4 the time. Good experiment, and keep us posted on the IPR theory and what you experience.

I was actually interested and waiting for your input specifically.
Can you elaborate how you train? do you do anything on the 2-3 days off Penis Enlargement?
 
can someone post a link for this ipr theory? thanks
 
Xenolith said:
IPR Theory based Penis Enlargement training protocol:​



Inflammation, Proliferation, Remodeling. All three phases are equally important. Although in the conventional context of IPR Theory, a single injury occurs and then goes through this cycle over the course of many months, in my experience, the concept can be applied in the context of Penis Enlargement effectively at (at least two) different temporal scales: micro-scale (2-3 day cycle) and macro-scale (2-3 months) protocols, during which, the I and P phases are manipulated to a high degree.

Inflammation: can presumably be done with any of the conventional Penis Enlargement training methods: hanging, stretching, jelqing, clamping, pumping. I’ve used it successfully with hanging, jelqing and clamping. The goal is to cause tissue strain in the direction of desired growth. In my experience, which admittedly has been largely length focused, IPR concepts have appeared to be somewhat more conducive to length growth than girth growth, but I use IPR protocols irrespective of the type of gains I’m seeking and have had it work well for girth focused gains campaigns also. For the most part, I’ve employed hanging coupled with wet jelqing as my general IPR based training. In that context, I’ve focused much of my attention on how to most effectively and safely inflame my penile tissues. At this point, I think moderate weight hanging is the most effective and safest means. What constitutes “moderate” will depend on the conditioning level of your tissues.

Proliferation: is done with the aid of an ADS device in the case of length focused work or a cock ring, Thera-P wristband, etc. in the case of girth focused work. The goal of the P phase is to keep the tissues that were strained during the I phase aligned in as close as possible to the same direction that the I phase stressor was aligned. This facilitates cellular growth (mitosis) along the same vectors (of initial strain) by means of distraction histogenesis, a term which basically means preferentially directed mitosis. Therefore, in the case of ADS wearing, one should orient it in the as close to the direction of their I phase stressor as possible.

Remodeling: is rest. Simple. Leave it alone.

Micro-scale IPR: Inflame in the morning (for instance). Proliferate, micro-P phase, with ADS for support of length focused training, or with a cock ring, Thera-P wristband, etc., for support of girth focused training, for the rest of the day. Remodeling, micro-R phase begins at the end of the training day, at which point I rest my tissues for either 36 hrs (overnight + 1 full day) or 60 hrs (overnight + 2 full days). Repeat. Of course, training methods other than hanging can be used.

Macro-scale IPR: can be done in or out of the context of micro-scale IPR. When done in the context of micro-scale IPR, one considers all of their micro-scale work to be the I phase of their macro-scale IPR training, and therefore terminates their micro-scale training cycle after ~2 weeks and initiates the macro-scale P phase, which initially consists of ADS or cock ring use for as much of every day as possible and tapers down in daily usage until an additional 4 weeks of time has elapsed. At which point the macro-scale P phase is terminated and the macro-scale R phase is initiated, with rest for at least 2 months.

In formulating the magnitude of “work”, where work = frequency x volume (or load), of my training within individual gains campaigns, I consider the form of my “characteristic (gains) function”, which is to say, I fit a trendline to my (typically length, although I’ve used girth and volume as well) gains vs. time curve and then, in accordance with concepts described by Fibonacci number sequence theory, I plot the inverse of the reciprocal of that curve, which I then scale to a 3 week time interval, the interval that I’ve empirically determined yields the greatest positive feedback/least negative feedback, and, is consistent with concepts described by IPR tissue healing systematics. By solving for the nth derivative of the nth degree polynomial that defines the work vs. time curve explicitly for the day being considered, one can determine the theoretical optimum work amount for that day.

Of course the scales of the characteristic gains function and the work function are different, but, as described by fractal theory, the shapes can be thought to be manifestations of each other, and therefore, in accordance with cybernetic biofeedback concepts, the use of the (scaled to IPR appropriate scale version of the) inverse of the reciprocal (or, if you prefer, inverse of the mirror image) of the characteristic curve, is well justified. Indeed, when the individual gains campaign curve is plotted on the same axes as the work curve, they almost always form a closed loop, which serves to confirm the veracity and applicability of the method.

In all of my modeling, the point of maximum inflection of the work vs. time curve is located very near the 14 day mark (actually, its almost always at day 12) as is ultimately, of course, defined by the point of maximum inflection of my characteristic gains curve. Therefore, in practice, I generally consider the ~2 week point to be the point where my body’s physiology is beginning to most significantly change from one of positive feedback (i.e. gains) to one of negative feedback (i.e. conditioning, which is really a whole other subject that demands consideration of collagen speciation and fibrosis systematics, but the characteristic gains function incorporates these). As such, its at ~ 2 weeks that I should stop my I phase work. Experience has shown that I typically achieve ~ 75% of the possible gains that I can make in any given gains campaign within the first 2 weeks. Use of a millimeter scale/ruler is a good idea). Sympathetically, it would follow that ~ 25% of the possible conditioning has occurred to that point as well. As such, 2 weeks has shown itself to be something of a break point, beyond which one’s return on investment falls precipitously. Also, as predicted by Fibonacci number theory, one can reasonably expect that the “take off point” with respect to conditioning, of each succeeding gains campaign will be incrementally greater than that of the one before. By pursuing the “expensive” last ~25% of gains, we are deflecting up in conditioning space the “landing point” of our current gains campaign as well as deflecting into higher conditioning space the “take off point” of our subsequent gains campaign. Therefore, IMO, its foolish to chase that last 25% of available gains at the expense of 75% of the available conditioning. Beyond the fact that doing so buys you less and less gains with more and more investment, it also raises the cost of your next “cheap” gains in our next gains campaign.

To do this method rigorously requires that one identify their characteristic gains function, which requires that one has kept track of their gains as a function of time and can plot them. If that can be done, one need not use calculus, one can simply superimpose the two plots graphically, and then re-label the ordinate (y-axis) in simple dimensionless integer units (1,2,3) which represent work multiplier coefficients, by which the starting value of work will be multiplied during the course of the gains campaign. In my experience of solving for work multiplier coefficients quantitatively, the 2 week point typically plots at a work multiplier coefficient of ~1.5, with the 3 week point typically correlating to a work multiplier coefficient of ~2.5.

One can multiply their Penis Enlargement work by increasing frequency and/or load. In the simplest case of jelqing, it makes most sense to simply increase the frequency, which in this context means # of jelq strokes, not duration of time between jelq strokes or duration of time between sessions. I’ll get to a discussion of the latter of these types of frequency in a moment. So what this means is that on day 1 of gains campaign A, one does, say X1 jelqs, then wears ADS for the rest of the day, then rests for the next 2 days and then on day 4, does X1 x (day 4 work multiplier coefficient) jelqs (call it X2), wears ADS for the rest of the day, then rests for the next 2 days and then on day 7, does X2 x (day 7 work multiplier coefficient) jelqs (call it X3), etc, until day 13, upon which (unless one can’t fight the urge to go after those “expensive” 25% gains), one transitions to macro P phase work and wears ADS for ~4weeks, transitioning (linearly) over this time from high wearing time (P-phase) to high not wearing time (R-phase), ultimately transitioning to pure rest (R-phase) after the 4th week of ADS wearing and continues with pure rest for 2 months before initiating gains campaign B. 3 months is recommended in the case of having pushed one’s I-phase work into a third week. Which in and of itself is a good reason to not push one’s gains campaigns into a third week, not to mention those that I’ve mentioned already.

For this (low erection, i.e. length targeting) jelqing example we’ll start with, say 200 jelqs and a work multiplier coefficient of 1.1, which when coupled with a 1 day, 2 days off session frequency to approximate what looks like the “sweetspot” of work progression for the first 2 weeks. So, the first 2 weeks of our example would look like this:

Day 1: 200 jelqs, Day 4: 200 x 1.1 = 220 jelqs, Day 7: 220 jelqs x 1.1 = 242 jelqs, Day 10: 242 jelqs x 1.1 = 266 jelqs, Day 13: 266 jelqs x 1.1 = 293 jelqs.

Notice that at the ~2 week point, our work has increased relative to our starting point, by a factor of ~ 1.5. Because this corresponds well with the work multiplier coefficients that I’ve calculated for and solved for graphically, I think a work multiplier coefficient of 1.1 in the context of a 1 day on/2 days off session frequency is about the sweetspot for the IPR protocol (as based on MY physiological response systematics). So, on Day 14, we would begin our macro-P phase work, using, for this case of a length targeting gains campaign, our ADS for as much time per day as we can muster (at the start of the phase, tapering off usage a little each day until we reach zero usage 4 weeks later). There are two very important aspects of P-phase work. The first applies to all P-phase work: The P-phase work, whether it’s length supporting, as in ADS or girth supporting, as in cock ring, should be done at a relatively low level. The one thing we don’t want to do is have the P-phase work appear to our body as I phase work. That is an extremely counterproductive occurrence. So keep the ADS tension low and the cock ring not too tight. With respect to macro-P phase work, it’s very important that we taper the usage from high-P phase/low R phase at the beginning of the macro-P phase to low-P phase/high-R phase at the end of the macro-P phase. The idea is to have a smooth handoff to the macro-R phase.

If we are to continue to chase gains during this gains campaign (which I don’t recommend) we will have to accelerate the velocity of our work, which means that we’ll have to increase the rate of our increase in work. Again, the magnitude of this increase can be solved for explicitly by means of calculus or graphically, but it requires that one has plotted their gains vs. time. For those that haven’t, using a work multiplier coefficient of 1.15 and increasing the frequency of sessions to every other day will approximate the indicated rate increase that I’ve computed in most of my analyses. So, in this example, the 3rd week’s training would consist of:

Day 15: 293 jelqs x 1.15 = 337 jelqs, Day 17: 337 jelqs x 1.15 = 387 jelqs, Day 19: 387 jelqs x 1.15 = 445 jelqs, Day 21: 445 jelqs x 1.15 = 512 jelqs.

Notice that at the ~3 week point, our work has increased relative to our starting point, by a factor of ~ 2.5. So this regimen corresponds well with the regimens that I’ve calculated (again, based on MY physiological response systematics).

The most fundamental difference that this Penis Enlargement training philosophy has with that of many others that one may find on the Forum is that its truly cybernetic, as the form of one’s training is prescribed by the form of one’s physiological response to one’s training. Another important aspect of this training protocol that is in sharp contrast to many others is the importance of tissue healing. It’s the most important part of the protocol.

I’ll be on Big Dick Island. I wish you all good luck in your efforts to navigate to it. If you’d like to have more than luck on your side, I suggest that you find, formulate or adopt a strategy. Feel free to adopt mine.

I’ll keep an eye out for sails on the horizon. There’s almost always an offshore wind, but if you’re an able sailor with a sound strategy, you’ll find the lee shore.

Godspeed.
 
that theory is interesting, altough i simply could not imagine peing 5 times every 3 months (not including p phase) and seeing awesome results. has anyone used this theory (to the word) and gained big?
 
EVO said:
that theory is interesting, altough i simply could not imagine peing 5 times every 3 months (not including p phase) and seeing awesome results. has anyone used this theory (to the word) and gained big?

Apparently alot of people over at thunder's swear by it.
In Body Building Terms, it makes no sense, but then again, this isn't skeletal muscle we're dealing with.

I'm gonna somewhat try this for the first two weeks, and see how I respond to it. Decemeber is Exam month, followed by Partying, so It'd be a good 4-5 weeks to allow rest.
 
Good information man... I have a question for anyone, if your penis is still sore is it ok to still work it out the next day or two? or should it be fully healed in order to start up agian???
 
StretchForReal said:
Good information man... I have a question for anyone, if your penis is still sore is it ok to still work it out the next day or two? or should it be fully healed in order to start up agian???

Well according to this theory, NO. you should give it rest.

They say that when we stress our penises with Penis Enlargement, the increased volume and spaces are filled with Type III collegen (which is easy to break down). If were were to overtrain our penises, however, Type I collegen (which apparently is much tougher and harder to break down) is secreted, and in turn this will halt our gains to a stop.
 
so before starting something like this would it be necessary to take a decon break?
i hardly ever see any gains from 2 weeks of any training, not even as a newbie. >:(
 
Very interesting thread. I to have been using the no rest approach for 5-6 weeks also... but I seem to have gained! I took fri, sat, sun off (adventure trip, so cold and wet) then measured today, I've gained .2" in midshaft girth.
I'm also a hard gainer as girth is concerned so I'm over the moon with this gain.
Also, as I'm pumped pretty much 24/7 I'm usally .3-.4 up in girth.

I work at least twice a day with adc at night. The focus in these sessions is expansion, so I always have the tape handy.
I use a mix of Dash wraps (cloth) with SSJ and Wall Presses then Dash wrap with rope for final girth measurement... aim at .5 increase.

I'll try this IPR theory if I stop gaining and see how it goes.

Chi's tunica finding is VERY interesting also and needs looking into.
 
I'm having a hardtime understanding this theory ... someone explain it to me in steps if they can be arsed :)
 
Basing the effectiveness of a routine off 5 weeks results? Especially as a long-time Penis Enlargement'er?
 
Good observation. I'm glad you reported to us what you were feeling. I don't think clamping everyday is good for me either.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
Well according to this theory, NO. you should give it rest.

They say that when we stress our penises with Penis Enlargement, the increased volume and spaces are filled with Type III collegen (which is easy to break down). If were were to overtrain our penises, however, Type I collegen (which apparently is much tougher and harder to break down) is secreted, and in turn this will halt our gains to a stop.


right on, thank vaseline, good information about the science too, much appreciated. make sure to keep the vitamin C flowing, it good for building collegen.
 
5 times in 3 months...if that, or EVER sounds like about how often MOST of the "men" on Thundersplace actually Penis Enlargement. Totally makes sense that it would be such a popular theory over there!LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
 
Well, personally my routine usually falls in line with what my schedule will allow. This usually means that I Penis Enlargement 3-4 days a week with 3-4 rest days. This last week I got in 3 sessions back to back to back and then I took off 2 days in a row. I fluctuate, but I make sure that I get AT LEAST 2 days, and I prefer to get 3-4 days off. I notice that my erection quality is much better when I take 2-3 days off back to back, and this usually means that I'm able to get to a full erection and get a nice solid fluid-less measurement. As of last measurement I came in at a bit under 5.75".

My routine has been primarily length and girth over the last month or two, but the last few weeks my hands were feeling pretty torn up from lifting and Penis Enlargement so I gave the manual stretches a break, but I've gone to a double clamp session in the late evening and I've been seeing improvements already. Tonight and last night I went into the pump for the first time in months, and I got to about a 5.9" girth after my second set in the clamps. I'll be starting back with my manual work this week, and I honestly think with length you CAN and probably should do some everyday, at least ADS, but then again length for me has been really stubborn and this has been the only thing to get it moving again.

Basically the IPR theory can be used as is or it can and probably should be modified. Xeno was very meticulous in his routines and details kept. However, I think too many off days can be counterproductive. For me the sweet spot seems to be 2-3 days off with 1-2 days of Penis Enlargement back to back. If my expansion isn't as good one night compared to the night before then I back off and take some time to let things return to normal. Usually my erections start to lose some of the hardness gained from Penis Enlargement after 3 sessions in a row. As long as you know when to rest and when to work then rest days WILL be beneficial.
 
goldmember said:
Basing the effectiveness of a routine off 5 weeks results? Especially as a long-time Penis Enlargement'er?

Well, no. You know me well enough to know I take quite a bit of time researching and thinking things over before making a statement.

The 5 week routine wasn't what showed me the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of this routine. As I said, what rang a bell was the amount of fatigue I felt after a 2 day break, compared to all the much more intense routines I was doing.

I was also thinking about the history of my gains.
I've always been trying to reproduce what gave me my post newbie gains.
I gained .25" of length initially in 2 weeks which boosted me to slightly over 6 inches. I was around 16 at the time around november. I wasn't really motivated at that time in my life cause i didnt have much exposure to girls, and the ones that I did have exposure too where 14-15, and had barely ever seen a penis.

when I pe'd again, it was summer, and did it again for 2 weeks (without ejaculation) and gained another .25". again around 6 months of no Penis Enlargement, and a one month period of no ejaculation and with a 5 day on , 2 day off routine of just jelqing, I gained yet another .25 inches. I was around 6 3/4" and i remember i did Penis Enlargement inconsistantly for some days, but never enough and didnt gain. the summer I was turning 19 (summer of 2002), I did another 30 day period when I went on vacation with family. My bpfsl went from 6 3/4 to slightly over 7 inches. I stopped Penis Enlargement'ing around mid july and didn't Penis Enlargement till october, when I did another 30 day routine and gained another .25".

After my last 0.25" gain, having moved out on my own, and feeling the NEED for size more and more, I started to do Penis Enlargement on and off in hopes of gaining an inch in 2-3 months of consistent Penis Enlargement as it seemed natural to me with my consisten rate of .25" every 2-3 weeks. I kept Penis Enlargement'ing almost 5 days a week but I didnt have the dicipline to not ejaculate, and i made no gains what so ever. I was also inconsistent as in I was Penis Enlargement'ing sometimes 5 days in a row, sometimes 10 days in a row.

Frustrated, I was convinced that in order to gain i must decipline myself and not ejaculate for 30 days. It was tough but doable, cause at this time (fall of 2003) i was consistantly having sex. But I did it, with a strict Penis Enlargement regimen, and no ejaculation, and guess what... NO GAINS.

I never really understood why I didn't gain from that routine as I had from all the other ones. But university pressure and girls made me forget all about Penis Enlargement very quickly.

I didn't Penis Enlargement until the following summer, summer of 2004, I had to go to vacation with my family, and I decided to go on a Penis Enlargement regimen for 30 days and not ejaculate. I remember I didn't gain at all for the first 2 weeks. I was jelqing and using a sock hanger doing 3 sets at 5 lbs, one SD and one to each side, Penis Enlargement'ing for 5 days on and 2 days in a row off. I remember measuring the day before my second week's rest. no gains. after the 2 days of rest, I couldnt believe my eyes. My fsl went from around 7.2" to 7 5/8th.

Happy that I had found the KEY to Penis Enlargement (not ejacualting) and ignoring that one time that I didnt gain even though I refrained from ejaculation, I went ahead with a consistent Penis Enlargement routine, never really resting, but never really into it enough to do 30 day regimens. until spring of 2005, I did another 30 day thing, with no gains. kept Penis Enlargement'ing harder, still no gains. July of 2005 until today I have Penis Enlargement'd non stop. Some of you guys know of my consistent presence on these forums. but again, Aside from some minor gains in girth, over the last year and 4 months, I have nothing to show for all my efforts.



until this recent clamping routing of 5 weeks, which was also non ejaculatory. I realized, the true COMMON factor IN ALL MY GAINS wasn't the fact that I wasn't ejaculating. I'm sure that enhanced my gains, I have no doubt about that. What was the true common factor in all my gains was that my penis had deconditioned for a good couple of months before starting the routine. my most recent gain of 7.2 to 7 5/8 was the steepest gain I have ever realized and if it wasn't for that gain I would have thrown in the towel by now thinking that my other gains were newbie gains and that I have maxed out.

It happened after 2 weeks. And Xeno's IPR confirms this.


I'm not trying to convince anyone to Penis Enlargement less or to Penis Enlargement more. This is just my observation and my understanding so far of how Penis Enlargement truely works. Fortunately I have my own gains to guide me through. Perhaps some people can consistantly gain from Penis Enlargement without decon breaks. It truely hasn't been the case for me as I have had the presistance, the dicipline and the patience to stick to Penis Enlargement even though I haven't gained much the past 2 years and four months.

I have been Penis Enlargement'ing for 7 years. My only effort in making these threads is that IF i do something that leads to gains, for it to be transparent, and for others with similar physiology to mine to understand that they're not the only ones who are not seeing gains and that sometimes LESS is MORE.







again university started and I forgot all about Penis Enlargement. During the Winter, around february, I did another 30 day of no ejaculation which got me to 7.2" bpfsl.

I didn't Penis Enlargement anymore untill the summer of 2004.
 
I don't think I could stop for even two weeks of doing Penis Enlargement, unless I was on a trip to Europe or somewhere.
 
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