ThickForSure;582338 said:
Excellent journal Super. Thank you for taking the time to post the great detailed info. I've been doing some of the same pe stuff as you with the clamping, pumping, clamped and cock ring pumping, and I recently ordered the LG Hanger to aid with my length routine.
I have the wine vac mod on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and find I can pump as much vacuum pressure as I can take with it on there until the base of my penis was hurting. I just bought a silicone comfort sleeve yesterday for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and it helped a lot with the gator bite discomfort.
I have been wearing a kind of silicone sleeve over my penis during my regular day to keep my penis from turtling and it keeps my flaccid hang full.
So much great stuff going on this forum with everyone's journals and experimentation's. Thanks for sharing your info

Thanks so much for commenting because it encourages me to keep posting. I know I have over a thousand views on this log but not many people have said anything so having the occasional encouragement is really fulfilling. I think after I start making serious gains people will comment more :). But I am going to keep plugging away because having this log not only provides encouragement but it also is a type of public accountability in that if I fell off people may come back to this log and ask me what happened. This log also always me to keep a log I can access anywhere, work, home or out and about so it is cool that when I think of something I can post it.

That said you are well on your way thickforsure and when you create a log I will be sure to follow it. So you said you do clamped pumping, what method do you use?
 
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So far in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I have 15 hours. I started wearing it on 5/27/14.
 
superman05xx;582343 said:
Thanks so much for commenting because it encourages me to keep posting.

This is so important to realize Brothers, our support of the active posters supports the community as a whole, please show your support by giving feedback.
 
Hey Super yes I have been doing some clamping in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] pump but its a bit tricky cause I altered my clamp a bit to squish into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] rubber base by dremel tooling the clamp down in size a bit cause it is really squished in there and makes the base distorted while it vacuums down. I'm doing more cock ring pumping than the clamp pumping as of the last couple days because with the comfort sleeve I just bought the clamp doesn't fit as well. I'm using two tight cock rings to give more of a clamp type area being constricted.

I do 3 sets of 5 min of the pumping with jelquing and clamping in between sets.

I'm a bit torn on whether I should continue with this system because I really want to continue using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for length and doing the pumping and clamping makes my penis more girthy which makes it too tight to get into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] while still pumped, some days even the morning after my pump is still to swollen to comfortably get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] down on the base of my penis. I dremeled the base a bit but there isn't much plastic there to alter too much.
I'm really torn what to do here cause I really need more length rather than girth but I love the pumping and clamping.

So right now I'm still getting into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] mostly mid day after the pump comes down and i find it a really rewarding way of doing PE cause with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] when you have to add bars it tells you 100% you just increased your penis size.
I still have one of the little bar sizes left to add on to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] so I have a ways to go left for use with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] so I really don't want to stop using it. I use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] with it cause I'm uncut and I get an awesome stretch with it.

I'm seeing great results with my flaccid hang too I think especially since I've been using a silicone penis sleeve type of thing I bought. It stretches a lot and I put on over my penis shaft after PE and it keeps the flaccid stretch my whole day and I can wear it all day and night and causes no discomfort at all. I have to buy another one though to cut and add to the one I have cause the one I have is only about 3" so it goes nice on part of the shaft up to the glands keeping my penis from turtling but there is still some shaft uncovered so i could use more sleeve to even extend my stretched flaccid hang more.

Hope I'm not hyjacking your journal. I thought some of this info might be relevant to some of the PE you are also doing.

I wish I could pump to more pressure without the base of my pump pushing so hard into my pubic bone area and causing pain there. I don't have a pressure valve to tell what vacuum I'm pumping at but I imagine I could be pumping at higher pressure if it wasn't for the base pump pain.
I see some guys on the internet pumping so much their penises fill their pumps massively over like a 3 hr time frame of pumping but yes that's mostly water retention.
I wonder though if that water retention is still actually good for enlarging our penises over time because it is still expanding our tissues. Some of the expanded penis pics I've seen though are horribly ugly looking while pumped that big. Do you know if those guys permanently distort their penises from doing this or do they go back to normal after these long very swollen pump sessions? I'm hesitant to do these long water retention pump sessions.

And some of those guys are pumping their testicles into their massive pump chambers and engorging their testicles too. This is not an attractive thing to me or something I want to do but to each their own. It just makes me think that more serious pump times and pressures may be doable.

There's a website myvacspace.com that shows these guys hugely engorging their balls and penises. Most of the guys pics are in the engorged state so it's hard to know what kind of results they are having on their normal penis sizes but if you check it out let me know what you think.
It's a homosexual site so if that bothers you don't go on there. I'm not into that stuff but I just checked it out for the PE ideas.

DLD I agree with you a lot there. It is really important to support all the guys on here who help us all out. I've been on other hobby forums, fishing and hunting forums etc and when you don't get reply's or feedback or support on threads that you take the time to post for others it can be discouraging.
So many of us read and use others info but don't take the time to say thanks and let the authors know how helpful they have been.
 
No you are totally not hijacking and all and even if you were I'm not that self centered that my log has to be entirely about me :).

I couldn't imagine clamped pumping in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] I have a hard time just doing it in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. With my cable clamp I actually cut off the tail and some of the teeth and it allows me to fit just fine into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. I also love my modified clamp because it allows me to get my hands around my penis easier when I am doing things like ulis and what not. Yea, I have also done clamped pumping with a cock ring and that works pretty good too.

I always wanted to be able to use a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] but in my life I never had much time to sit at home and wear it and for me wearing it out in public or to work would be totally out of the question. I have been wanting to work length like you so what I ended up doing is working length and girth on separate days. With my girth workouts it allows EQ to recover and while I could do length everyday I don't have the time for both length and girth in one day so I give both separate days of intense work. I tried the Autoxleeve and the absilcone sleeves but I couldn't get either one to work for me. They were both too tight and I could only wear them when I was completely unpumped otherwise I would get fluid buildup in the uncovered areas and experienced a significant amount of pain. The only thing I have found to give me an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and be completely comfortable is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] which I am wearing right now and have been since eight o'clock this morning (6 hours). I am still testing it so this isn't my official review of it but so far ..... Wow. And the great thing is I can wear it directly after my girth workout no problem. I am rolling in the hours wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] because it is so easy and doesn't cramp my lifestyle now I must say I haven't worn it to work yet but if it passes that test it will get an A+. If you have the money buy a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] .... It is definitely an investment but if you want to roll in your stretched hours it may be worth it for you.

Yea I couldn't/wouldn't pump for hours. I couldn't because I don't have hours for PE and I wouldn't because when I have pumped for long periods of time the expansion I got was mostly fluid. If at the end of your workout you have a lot of fluid retention it seems to mean you don't have a ton of blood expansion which is what cause gains. Fluid retention doesn't cause gains it just stretches the skin because it is directly under the skin that the fluid is deposited. The next time you get fluid build up take your fingers and feel it and you will see that it is outside of your actual penis tissues. I addressed this issue here: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?55210-Bathmate-does-it-work

Some guys swear by long pumping and hey if it works for them then so be it but I would just go out on a limb and guess it took them years to make their gains because if they got a ton of fluid retention each workout then they were fighting against the bodies physiology in order to make gains.

I have never pumped both cock and balls, I have tried but never had a cylinder big enough. In PE I am very much an experimenter and I am most likely to say try something and then decide if it works or does not work for you.

I have heard that there are a couple well known people that made serious gains from extreme pumping. Supposedly Scott Taylor and Shane Diesel made serious gains but idk and you will not find any before and after pictures to confirm it. I think it is best to do your PE work in a more controlled and regulated fashion; however, if you have a burning desire to give it a shot I say go for it and learn from your experiences.
 
I want some fancy [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] badges :) lol. Anyway I did 11 hours today in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words], I got a small amount like tiny amount of fluid build up under the glans. I took it off to give my penis and break a it disappeared. As of today I have 26 hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words].
 
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Thank your in depth reply Super! I agree with you I think the massive water retention pumping is very un necessary. I like to go to the max I can where I am getting a bit of WR then I back off and jelq more to spread the bit of WR I get around my penis to even it out more.

The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is sounding pretty sweet.
 
Today I did 10 more hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. Total time now is 36 hours.
 
superman05xx;582459 said:
Today I did 10 more hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. Total time now is 36 hours.

more than a days worth!
 
A quick update before I go to sleep, I found I can sleep pretty decent in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] until I have to wake up during the middle of the night to use the bathroom and then when I take it off I don't put it back on. I found that I couldn't wear it at work because I am in a very active/poorly situated condition in far as the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] sitting comfortably. I don't really want to go into what I do for a living but if I had like a desk job or something like that I could log a ton of hours at work. That said it looks like my hour will mainly be focused around sleep.

Speaking of sleep, my gf got me a fitbit which I now use to track my sleep. I am sleeping so much better than I have the last couple months now I just have to sleep a little longer.

I haven't weighed in this week on my bodybuilding goals because I had a bit of a set back yesterday. Yesterday was weigh in day but I ended up working six hours of overtime and when I got home I was somewhat stressed and ate half a bag of chips. It's rare but I do have a "binge" meal sometimes when I get somewhat down or have a lot on my mind or I missed several meals. I will probably weigh in Friday or sooner and see what needs to be tweaked. Oddly enough people have been asking me if I am leaning out ... But I don't notice any difference.

Lastly, I love clamping but I have been wanting something that can get tight like cable clamps without breaking. I wanted the New Size Device that stillwantmore was making however he stopped selling it and I guess sold that part of his business. Anyway I have been waiting for months for the product to be released and either the guy who bought swm's New Size Decice business either changed the name or someone can out with the exact same device but the device I found is called Thicker Man. It isn't easy to find in a google search but the actual website is thickerman.com. I should have the device in a couple days and I will give it a go.

Onward and upward.
 
How in the world are you breaking the cable clamps!!? I use the orange ones sold at Home Depot and they seem very tough. The teeth on them seem to me to be more defined with more of an edge on them and the plastic seems tougher than the white brand ones I've seen at other hardware stores.
Which brand did you break?
 
ThickForSure;582640 said:
How in the world are you breaking the cable clamps!!? I use the orange ones sold at Home Depot and they seem very tough. The teeth on them seem to me to be more defined with more of an edge on them and the plastic seems tougher than the white brand ones I've seen at other hardware stores.
Which brand did you break?

Intensity. They aren't technically designed for PE so putting them through some of the things I do cause them to break. This is the ones I use:

http://www.amazon.com/Worldwide-CCM...F8&qid=1401744861&sr=8-2&keywords=cable+clamp
 
doublelongdaddy;582682 said:
I have seen much more hardcore clamps but they do get pricey and difficult to get I guess that is why so many use Sea-Clamps, they are cheap.

What the difference between the two clamps? They both look plastic.
 
6 hours in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] on Monday and 8 hour yesterday brings us to a current total of 50 hours.
 
superman05xx;582717 said:
6 hours in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] on Monday and 8 hour yesterday brings us to a current total of 50 hours.

You are going to stat your gains against hours?
 
doublelongdaddy;582733 said:
You are going to stat your gains against hours?

Not really because i haven't really decided when i will actually measure. I am just enjoying how easy PE is with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. I am the type that over measures so just taking a break and not measuring for the time being maybe helpful in sticking with a set plan.

8 more hours yesterday in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] equals 58 hours.

I got the thicker man clamp In yesterday... Wow shipping was fast. I put it on for just a couple minutes and I saw all types of veins that I didn't get with the cable clamp. Being able to make the small adjustments will certainly be a huge plus.
 
superman05xx;582807 said:
Not really because i haven't really decided when i will actually measure. I am just enjoying how easy PE is with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. I am the type that over measures so just taking a break and not measuring for the time being maybe helpful in sticking with a set plan.

8 more hours yesterday in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] equals 58 hours.

I got the thicker man clamp In yesterday... Wow shipping was fast. I put it on for just a couple minutes and I saw all types of veins that I didn't get with the cable clamp. Being able to make the small adjustments will certainly be a huge plus.

Good to know the obsessiveness of measuring has been lifted, that is definitely a good thing that you are not over doing it. Set a time to measure and stick to it!
 
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