A humble title to my log but hopefully I will make excellent gains.

As some of you know I decided to take time off from PE. The reason is simple, I did something dumb. A while ago I came across the thread “Clamped Pumping” which is here:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ping-while-clamped=&highlight=clamped+pumping

Now I don’t blame the thread but I came up with the not so genius idea of using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] and a cable clamp at the same time. At this time in my PE journey I wasn’t gaining and so I kept doing more and more extreme exercises in an attempt to get gains and in the end I hurt myself with the above mentioned exercise.

I don’t really know what I did … like what it is officially called (perhaps a damaged vein .. perhaps a blood clots idk) but the skin near the top of my penis on the left side under my foreskin looks like it was stretched out (like discolored as in like really light colored when it should be dark and it was scab over first an intense PE session) and when I clamp, the veins or whatever under the spot of discoloration start to hurt (just in that area) causing me to not get to higher pressures and makes me stop the exercise. I have actually had this injury for over half a year but I kept doing PE because…. well I wanted to get to my dream size. I think I became a little obsessed with PE insomuch that I couldn’t mentally take a break. I think PE is one activity that can easily consume us and cause us to be unhealthy in continuing to exercise even when we are injured so we as PEers have to be careful.

I sometimes took weeks off here and there and when I saw what looked like a normal looking penis, I jumped back into the exercises; however, the pain and skin tearing in the same spot resumed.

This time around I decided to take 2 months off. I have not done PE since early or mid-January,

I started using leech oil from the site Redzulu recommended (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...Exclusive-to-MOS-Members=&highlight=leech+oil). The leech oil is supposed to repair the circulation system which for me should mean the veins in the area of my injury will heal (the pain will go away). From using leech oil I have been seeing veins on my penis I have never seen before and saw a vein in the area where my injury is, which should be a good sign.

Today, 3/11/14, is going to my first day back to PE. I feel like the vein is probably healed and also I am a little impatient. It has been over a month and a half since I stopped PE so I think I would like to give it a go.

Equipment: Vacutech [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penis pump[/words] (using water), In line water trap (used to keep water from going into the pump gauge), clamp, leech oil (http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ive-to-MOS-Members=&highlight=leech+oil),cock ring, heater and Penilizer. I decided to use an old school cylinder because I was tired of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bite and because when I get bigger I can always buy another cylinder (as assumed to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and just an fyi I own all three). I think the old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] will be better than new school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] because I will not have to deal with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiters[/words] and I will know exactly how much pressure is being applied to my penis versus just having to go by the length indicator as with new hydropumps.
Plan: I am going to do a 5x5x3 workout, which is going to go back and forth between water pumping and clamping. I will finish my workout with about 10 minutes of the Penilizer (unclamped). I will use the heater during clamping.

3/11/14 … I had my first workout … perfect … no pain whatsoever where my injury was.

I will update this log periodically.

Current stats: 7.5 x 5.25 (it looks like I lost some girth during my time off... probably was not cemented)

Six month goal: 8 x 6
 
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Glad to see you're healed enough to get back to it. Im coming back from a small hiatus and it feels great to be back, I wish you all the best.

I must ask, are you not incorporating any jelqs or stretches in your routine? I failed to see them mentioned. Also, because of your injury and the method you received it, why not try another approach?
 
88man;578804 said:
Glad to see you're healed enough to get back to it. Im coming back from a small hiatus and it feels great to be back, I wish you all the best.

I must ask, are you not incorporating any jelqs or stretches in your routine? I failed to see them mentioned. Also, because of your injury and the method you received it, why not try another approach?

I actually am incorporating some stretches ... I didn't mention it and didn't think to add it into my edit but I do the girth work mentioned above 3 times a week and 2 days in between those work out day I do about 20 minutes of bundled stretches. I am also planning on buying some autoxleeves.

I am actually trying another approach (safer approach). I was injured because I wore a cable clamp while using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] causing extreme pressure. Of course I am not doing that again but in addition to not doing that I am also now using a gauge and now pushing too far. Clamping and pumping are not bad however they should never be done at the same time and by that I am not referring to wearing a cock ring while pumping.

Thank you for the wishes ... yeah this time I am definitely going to be safer so I don't have to take time off again.

Why did you take a hiatus?
 
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Well, sounds like a solid plan. I was doing a purely chemical approach with great success. I then had some personal life issues I needed to tend to, while I wanted to take some time off anyway. I think it was a much needed break.
 
Yesterday i did twenty minutes of bundled stretches in front of a heater followed by about twenty minutes of clamped edging.

Today I had my second primary girth workout of pumping and clamping. I apply leech oil to my penis about ten minutes before i start my workout and after those ten minutes have expired i warmup with a heater. Like I said before I started doing old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] and I use the in line water trap to accomplish this (enlargementworkz.com however I just checked the site and they don't have the one I bought on eBay on their site). I keep the in line water trap in its side so that excess water doesn't go into the water trap. I like it because I am able to use a regular pump with a gauge which is something I have never been able to do before. I keep my pressure at 5 ...from reading the forums that is a pretty safe pressure. I think that is why some people are getting injured by the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]/penomet because they have to go by feel instead of an exact measurement. Today I used a cock ring while pumping. For the cock ring I just use a pick of a silicone folded over once. Now because the cylinder it filled with water I'm not totally sure about this but it looks like I was maxing out the cylinder at the base (2.25 cylinder) however it will be a while before the mid shaft catches up. I thought I was going to need some smaller cylinders (I am 5.25 in girth) but it looks like I don't. When I moved up to clamping today I did clamped ulis in front of a heater. It felt pretty good .... Did not seem to have excess pressure in any one area. Pumping sets were done from five minutes and clamping was also five minute sets. I repeated this twice more for a total of 30 minutes .. Of course it takes a little time to switch between the pumping and clamping. After I was done with my super sets I did clamped edging for 50 minutes. The 50 minutes wasn't too intense, I was trying to make sure I got some blood into the area I had expanded (6 inches of expansion from workout) and apparently this is important for cementing gains. After I was done with this I put on my cock ring (small piece of absilcone .. This one isn't folded over). I don't have very much fluid build up which it good but I will what it looks like in four hours before I go to bed (I work nights). Before I go to sleep will apply leech oil which should pull blood into the penis and probably get rid of some of the fluid build up. I will probably do a little clamped edging too just to help with pulling blood in.

Side note: I am thinking about using DMSO and PABA against but I am not sure if my mixture is still good. Does anyone know how long this stuff can sit together mixed without going bad?
 
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88man;578823 said:
Well, sounds like a solid plan. I was doing a purely chemical approach with great success. I then had some personal life issues I needed to tend to, while I wanted to take some time off anyway. I think it was a much needed break.

Yeah I have been following your log. I wish I could do what you do without the injections.... Like the cream or something.
 
superman05xx;578877 said:
Yeah I have been following your log. I wish I could do what you do without the injections.... Like the cream or something.

The injections are definitely a scare at first. Putting a needle in your penis is, simply put, unnatural. However, it really never hurt and most of the time I could never really feel any pain. Mind you, I was using a 27 gauge insulin pin... very tiny. There is a tablet that they've made to push down your urethra, but its much more expensive and produces a weaker effect.
 
Two rest days. I will be back to PEing on Monday with pumping and clamping. On rest days I still use leech oil twice a day and even with a 24 hour cock ring I am seeing a lot of good veins. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being way too much fluid retention I would say my PE workouts along with the 24 hour cock ring are at like a 1. I think the leech oil might have something to do with that since it causes more blood flow and if there is more blood flow then fluid will probably get moved out of the penis much faster ......
 
Another goal of mine that I didnt mention above is that i want to straighten my curve and to bring my mid and tip girth up closer to my base girth. I think pumping will help straighten my curve .... and I could do stuff like jelqing but I dont get the expansion I want so therefore pumping will let me kill two birds with one stone. Tomorrows big questions is .... do I add dmso and paba back into my routine. I am 70% sure I will bring it back in because it will help with the curve and help with girth.
 
On Monday I used dmso/paba before i started PE and after it had absorbed pretty good i washed it off and applied my leech oil. I switched to a bigger cylinder size of 2.5x9 .... I decided to switch because my base was pushing hard against the walls of the 2.25 cylinder. I went higher pressure on Monday (two days ago) in the pump to see what it felt like and it wasnt bad. Like with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] I am doing the water trap that catches the water causes the pressure to reduce as i kegel and if I do and even if I do higher pressure it only lasts for maybe ten seconds before it goes down to 3 to 5. So since it goes down pretty fast I figure I will be fine and plus I only go to like seven. I had noticably more fluid build up after Monday's workout which I think was the result of both the higher pressures and the fact to use the heater when i did clamping. Today I am going to repreat Monday's workout but I am going to use the heater and see if I cant get less fluid build up. When I say I got fluid build up on a scale of one to ten it was a five and later the same day it was gone so no biggie. Yesterday I started applying my dmso/paba and leech oil at the same time. I heard someone suggest on the forum to use leech oil with dmso and since I am already using both I figure i would apply them together to save time.

PE workout expansion: 6 inches

Injury update: The area I had injured which i referred to in my first post is completely fine. I am seeing no skin tears and I dont feel any excessive pressure higher than the rest of my penis when clamping in that area. I totally feel 100% and I think it is because of rest and leech oil.
 
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I bought the basic brass [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] online because the water trap I bought doesnt hold suction as well as I want. When I get the pump in i will do a comparison between it and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words].
 
Used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] today. The suction was great but it got to a certain point and I couldn't get more. I guess this isn't a bad thing so I won't injure myself but having no real gauge unlike the vacutech I have no way to really measure the pressure. I am sure I use a higher pressure than the vacutech but I ended up with less fluid retention..... Weird how that works. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] might make a come back for me but then I will have to figure out what to do with the vacutech gear I have. I'll probably test the other pump i bought for the vacutech first before I come to a conclusion. My autoextender sleeves are supposed to arrive today. I am going to give those a try and see if they help with girth gains.
 
ShadedSam;579288 said:
You gotta get the wine vac bro, although I don't use it anymore. I kept getting blood spots.

You are right and I was thinking about that. I had one before but it broke. If you have read my log you will see I did some pretty intense PE stuff in the past and I injured myself. I am wondering if this time around I should do PE more converservatively .... So many decisions.
 
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I plan on doing a review of my old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] with the vacutech cylinder and LA Pump basic brass pump versus the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words]. I will probably do that review tonight.
 
I am still working on my review mentioned in the last post. I have a new found love for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] which was actually a surprise to me because I thought this review would be very different. So anyway that review will be up eventually and I will probably post it here. The last couple of days I have been wearing the Autoxleeve .... It was really tight want I got it but I loosened it up and now it fits quite well. I am able to sleep with it on, wearing it during the day and even workout with it on. I am using it to see if it will happy with girth so in due time we will see how it all works out.
 
What I found out yesterday after falling asleep after wearing the autoxleeve after an intense girth workout ..... bad idea .... When i woke up 4 hours after falling asleep my penis circulation was restricted and it was hurting. in addition to that I had my fluid retention pushed into the area where the autoxleeve was not, which for me was in the area of the glands....... What sucked even worse was that I had to pull my autoxleeve over the fluid retention ... ouch ... never again directly after my girth workouts from now on I will do a 24 hour cock ring directly after and about 8 hours later i will do the autoxleeve.

Update on my routine: before I was finishing my routine with 30 minutes of clamped edging but now i changed it to 15 minutes of frendos followed by 15 minutes of clamped edging. We will see how that works.
 
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I like the Autoxleeve but I like more of a stretch. I came up with an DIY [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] which I can actually walk around in.

Equipment: cable clamp, piece of silicone sleeve and stirrup shirt stay (http://www.amazon.com/Stirrup-Style...F8&qid=1396705967&sr=8-6&keywords=shirt+stays)

I put the sleeve around the middle of my penis then I take the two top parts of the stirrup shirt stay (which would connect with a shirt) and put one on each side of my penis. I clamp this in place with the cable clamp and put the foot through the stirrup. And actually yesterday I cut off the mental end pieces of the stirrup shirt stays and just made knots at the end of each (this is what keeps the shirt stay from sliding out of the cable clamp) and found this was more comfortable because I wouldn't get the occasional rubbing of metal against my cock or balls. This was an easy DIY [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] which works better than those noose [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] systems on eBay and stuff and it cost me nothing because I had everything laying around the house. I intend to wear this [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] about five hours a day (yesterday was my first day wearing it) but at work, because my job requires a lot of movement, I will still be wearing the Autoxleeve.

Also I am still working on my comparison of old [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] versus the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words]. I weNt back to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] pumping for the past two weeks but I still have to do some troubleshooting with my old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] equipment so that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] doesn't have an unfair advantage. I didn't have lasting suction in my old school hyrdropump even though I am shaved and used use vasoline. I remembered I have a pump sleeve at my house which might fit over the base of my old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] which might put [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] on equal ground to give a fair review of them. I will probably try the old school [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] with the sleeve tomorrow and then I will finish my review and post it either here or somewhere on the forum. I am thinking about posting it in either the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] or pumping forum but that be decided by which pump turns out to be the winner.
 
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If you guys didnt catch it I finally made my review of the Old School [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydropump[/words] versus the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83308-Penomet-versus-Old-School-Hydropump-Review. I spent about 2 or 3 weeks on the Old School [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydropump[/words] before i came to a conclusion and I have been using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] for about a year.
 
The last couple days I have been doing girth work everyday. On Monday (today is now Thursday) tried to superset [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] pumping (5 minutes) with frendos (15 minutes) but I didn't get good expansion at all. On Tuesday I then switched to ten minutes of bundled stretch as a warm up (under a heater) followed by 30 minutes of clamped edging,and finished with 15 minutes of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] pumping..... Not that great of expansion from this either. Last week I did super setting with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] and frendos and it seems the back and forth of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] pumping (5 minutes) and frendos (5 minutes) is what gave me extreme expansion but there looked like a lot of fluid.

I think I lime the warm up I have been doings and I like the increased level of girth work but frendos for me are best used as a finisher because unless you are uncut and can edge during frendos you aren't going to be able to push blood past the clamp and into the penis. I like ulis for this so I will back to ulis supersetted with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] pumping tomorrow and I will finish with 15 minutes of frendos. I might use two clamps for the ulis and frendos like I used to since there is no sign of my injury coming back.

An update on the Autoxleeve .... Well I found they were not very comfortable and didn't give a good stretch. If I used them after my girth workout I would get extreme fluid in the area not covered by the sleeve. After a couple hours in the base of my penis really started to hurt from just the sleeve up against it. My [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] device I created works for a couple hours at a time but I can't wear it at work or sleep which is really when I need to. I couldn't wear the Autoxleeve to sleep either and typically if I tried I would wake up during the night and take it off and be in pain. I would really love to have the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] but $350 dollars is a bit much. I think if I wear able to sell the pump I tested I would then see fit to buy the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] ..... But I might just be experiencing PE greed. I am guessing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] will have advantages over the Autoxleeve in not causing fluid build up and pain barter my girth workout because it covers the glands and pulls versus covering the shaft and pushing (ie causing fluid to build up in the part of the shaft that isn't covered near the glands). Idk though and it might be an expensive experiment if I decide to go through with it. I mean I know I want a bit more length and I know also that length gains and having an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] will produce girth gains (my primary goal) so I will hAve to see what my money situation is like soon.
 
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