Good point baba. Wearing the extnder downwards is a complete waste of time. I got most of my gains from wearing it straight out or straight up.
I also believe wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at low-med tension for 10+ hours is a waste of time especially if you are an advanced user. I did this for a week and actually lost 1/8 of an inch. Now im back up to high tension and growing again.
I'm now alternating days where i will wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] straight out one day and then straight up the next day. Getting good fatigue wearing it straight up.
 
celttank;474846 said:
Good point baba. Wearing the extnder downwards is a complete waste of time. I got most of my gains from wearing it straight out or straight up.
I also believe wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at low-med tension for 10+ hours is a waste of time especially if you are an advanced user. I did this for a week and actually lost 1/8 of an inch. Now im back up to high tension and growing again.
I'm now alternating days where i will wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] straight out one day and then straight up the next day. Getting good fatigue wearing it straight up.

What do you use to wear it up and straight out all day?
 
Well to be wearing it straight out you kinda need to be sitting down... I only wear it straight down when i need to get up and cook or do other shit. I can't wear it outside as the thing is nearly down to my knee and it swings when i walk!
You can do anything when u wear it up. Just pull ur boxers and pants up and cover the rest with ur shirt.
 
celttank;474848 said:
Well to be wearing it straight out you kinda need to be sitting down... I only wear it straight down when i need to get up and cook or do other shit. I can't wear it outside as the thing is nearly down to my knee and it swings when i walk!
You can do anything when u wear it up. Just pull ur boxers and pants up and cover the rest with ur shirt.

Can anyone do me a favor and mesure what they are stretched to in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. Just measure the rod length. I want to see how I sit compared to the rest of you guys.My rod length is 7" im stretched to about 6"
 
I guess different strokes for different folks; some guys gain with high tension, others with low. I guess we all have to find our own sweet spot. I gained half an inch in a year westing my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 2 to 4 hours a day, 6 days a week keeping my tension between 1100 and 1200 grams.

I advise everyone to try low to medium tension to start for a few months and before cranking up the tension and sitting ron pain for 2 to 8 hours when they didn't need to.

Hey supra my bars on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] are set at 7.5 inches and gives me, when fully extended from the base screws, 800 to 1000 grams of tension.
 
not sure about rod length, it's my day off today... but i measured yesterday from the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to the top of the nozzle and it was 11 inches.
 
9inchtail;474864 said:
I guess different strokes for different folks; some guys gain with high tension, others with low. I guess we all have to find our own sweet spot. I gained half an inch in a year westing my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 2 to 4 hours a day, 6 days a week keeping my tension between 1100 and 1200 grams.

I advise everyone to try low to medium tension to start for a few months and before cranking up the tension and sitting ron pain for 2 to 8 hours when they didn't need to.

Hey supra my bars on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] are set at 7.5 inches and gives me, when fully extended from the base screws, 800 to 1000 grams of tension.

I am going low tension right now for the first month to get my penis and glands use to it



celttank;474865 said:
not sure about rod length, it's my day off today... but i measured yesterday from the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to the top of the nozzle and it was 11 inches.

WOW Thats a long stretch..does that hurt?
 
If i get my dick indside the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] just right it doesn't hurt at all. Only pain i get is from the stretch, the good pain!
 
Hey buddy boy!

I agree with you!

I am not advocating low tension in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I say go at the highest tension you can endure for 16 hours.Obviously you gotta start off low to achieve this without damage to ur cock/glans.
Once you know your set point then slowly increase the tension but still maintain the 16 hours of stretching.

Irspow made me think of Penis Enlargement another way when he compared it to stretching ur earlobe larger and larger .You start off with a small wooden ring that you can keep in for 24 hours .When your body stretched to accomadate this comfortably you add the next size wooden ring.
9inchtail;474864 said:
I guess different strokes for different folks; some guys gain with high tension, others with low. I guess we all have to find our own sweet spot. I gained half an inch in a year westing my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 2 to 4 hours a day, 6 days a week keeping my tension between 1100 and 1200 grams.

I advise everyone to try low to medium tension to start for a few months and before cranking up the tension and sitting ron pain for 2 to 8 hours when they didn't need to.

Hey supra my bars on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] are set at 7.5 inches and gives me, when fully extended from the base screws, 800 to 1000 grams of tension.
 
hey guys just wanted to double chechk before ordering.
if i have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] in need to order upgrade kit 1 + extra latex thingies?
 
MOSman20;474941 said:
hey guys just wanted to double chechk before ordering.
if i have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] in need to order upgrade kit 1 + extra latex thingies?

That if correct. Maybe some gel too if you can afford it.
 
I am still having issues with vacuum amount -vs-amount of tension. I have tried using the smallest glans chamber insert to give more of the positive locking fit that is talked about in their literature. I got injured in the begining of using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] , the sides behind the corona and the corona sides got rubbed raw. I think this was a result of not having it sucked in enough. The small insert is to small at lower tension but, at higher ones it is just snug. I am thinking of trying to use a Dremel or die grinder to take down a bit. They should have come out with more precise sizes so the locking fit was perfect and less suction is required to hold the glans. I have bothe the rods and the belt so 16 hours is do-able, I am just able to get through the metal detector at work with the belt. The company that makes the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] wrote me that they would be designing larger diaphram to allow the glans to be sucked in a lower vacuum levels. They claim that swelling of the glans is wrong and should not happen if you are putting it on properly and with the comensurate amount of tension so as not to insight swelling. I think in the begining it will happen to most but, should abate after further familiarization. I still connot get past 3 hours without having to relieve pressure or myself.
 
ronan69;474952 said:
I am still having issues with vacuum amount -vs-amount of tension. I have tried using the smallest glans chamber insert to give more of the positive locking fit that is talked about in their literature. I got injured in the begining of using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] , the sides behind the corona and the corona sides got rubbed raw. I think this was a result of not having it sucked in enough. The small insert is to small at lower tension but, at higher ones it is just snug. I am thinking of trying to use a Dremel or die grinder to take down a bit. They should have come out with more precise sizes so the locking fit was perfect and less suction is required to hold the glans. I have bothe the rods and the belt so 16 hours is do-able, I am just able to get through the metal detector at work with the belt. The company that makes the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] wrote me that they would be designing larger diaphram to allow the glans to be sucked in a lower vacuum levels. They claim that swelling of the glans is wrong and should not happen if you are putting it on properly and with the comensurate amount of tension so as not to insight swelling. I think in the begining it will happen to most but, should abate after further familiarization. I still connot get past 3 hours without having to relieve pressure or myself.

Hey man, a larger latex would be nice, until then let's see if we can hey you wearing this thing comfortably. Try not using any of the inner rings. My head is small, I don't use the inner rings and things work just fine. Make sure you rub that gel inside the latex and some on the head of your dick. I find if I heat the gel it works great. I heat it by running hot water over it before use to thin it out. Also when you suck your head inside the head chamber, pull up the sluce ring to make sure you are fully in there. Only thing exposed should be shaft. While wearing it, if you feel tool much pressure, open the valve quickly to release some pressure then close it again. You have to find your own timing while doing this. For me I open it and count to 3 then I close the valve again and I'm fine. If you find you let too much pressure go, just use the green suction bulb and suck yourself in there a little more. I hope this helps you.
 
hey guys ive been using the penis master pro for a little while and i get this burning sensation on my shaft, it has no effect on the glans or anything its jus that the pull makes it burn, so i was wondering if we could use numbing cream around our cock or any little are we miight find discomfort?

also people who get burn on the skin using [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] could use this too. ive got a cream which last up to 5 hours so affectively i can leave the pm on for that long and feel no pain and take of and do again.

lemme know what you think
 
I had the best stretch today because of my modified insert. Same premise as DLD's [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches ,when you pull the pressure in the chamber seems to increase. Pumpers would call it milking the tube . The positive locking fit relieves extra pressure caused by tension . I got some swelling (if you read their literature it is extra blood in the head not lymph like I always assume people mean by fluid retention) , so its not ass bad as you might first think. Also it stopped when it reached the walls of the glans chamber , where as before it felt like it was continuing till I had to remove . If the fit is right the coronal ridge should catch at the entrance of the chamber and not inhibit but , relieve some extra pulling that would cause more pressure. Karmi I have to say anything that would dull what you should use as signals to judge your penile health and progress as bad thing not a plus like you might think . That is just a novice opinion others might not agree. I hope this helps others . I am considering throwing my two cents to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] people , different size inserts for all sizes would really make a difference to some . I also thought the should have their own product forum, god knows it has helped hangers with Bib's product. Onward and upward :cool:
 
I have just caught up with this thread - seems good old Fonic was right, and my friend Dick Leaker is really motivating everyone with this - good man. Hey Dickleaker - tried sending you a PM but your box is full - please make some space!!

Ordered the upgrade pack this morning - will let you know how I progress, until it arrives I will hit the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].
 
Have any of you guys with the penismaster pro had experience with the VacExtender 3? I was originally going to purchase the VacExtender 3 until I saw this thread. I was also considering the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment based on Supra's thread. [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is a very expensive option which is why I'm asking for the pros and cons from guys that have used [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or VacExtender 3 and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words].

Thanks.
 
SA,

Its great to see you back here ...missed you man!
There is alot to tell you.
shavenasian;475029 said:
I have just caught up with this thread - seems good old Fonic was right, and my friend Dick Leaker is really motivating everyone with this - good man. Hey Dickleaker - tried sending you a PM but your box is full - please make some space!!

Ordered the upgrade pack this morning - will let you know how I progress, until it arrives I will hit the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].
 
Dickleaker said:
Next best is a combination of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and a wrap or extending with an elastic strap either from [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] ($60 -WTF) or the elastic strap from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].com at a mere $7.That is what I am using.

How do you attach the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] to the strap from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? I see how [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]'s strap attaches with that custom end of the strap but don't see something similar on [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]'s strap.

For people who don't have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] yet, it makes more sense to get one of these than to buy the whole [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] package. Even compared to the 18% discount, it's $13 more up front and a hell of a lot cheaper just to buy a second one when you need more rods than to get [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] rods. They have cheaper [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] that get good reviews if you don't want the slider option.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLIDER-Peni...159?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb931cc5f
 
I just recieved my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. It only took 11 days. I just cancelled plans tonight to wear this thing lol. gotta figure out how to put it on now
 
I had 2 [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] tuggers so I tore out one of the wire ends and use that .

Before that tho I got creative and made a wire loop that went over the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and then use the clip on the end of the strap and clip it to the wire .
Moresize;475060 said:
How do you attach the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] to the strap from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]? I see how [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]'s strap attaches with that custom end of the strap but don't see something similar on [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]'s strap.

For people who don't have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] yet, it makes more sense to get one of these than to buy the whole [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] package. Even compared to the 18% discount, it's $13 more up front and a hell of a lot cheaper just to buy a second one when you need more rods than to get [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] rods. They have cheaper [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] that get good reviews if you don't want the slider option.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SLIDER-Peni...159?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb931cc5f
 
there's a trick to this. Squeeze the pump ball half way, attach it to the glans and release. The tip should be very very slightly sucked in, now take the pump ball off and fully squeeze it this time and reattach and release the pressure.
 
That is just about perfect advice , just rember to make sure everything has got a thin layer of lube especialy the glans , then that should work perfectly. I had the same trouble initialy , I also modified the small insert to accomdate my size. For the chamber insert it says in the manual to stretch the penis out and measure the diameter just behind the coronal ridge ( it should be a bit smaller than the diameter of the shaft) . I used digital calipers to get the most accurate measure and it was 23.59mm . That insert is for 19 to 24 mm I believe so I took a piece of 180 grit sandpaper and slimmed a little for comfort and growth. When you add tension but the head is not wedged in there just right the pressure increases exponetially . If one can talor the fit better les pressure means longer wear time , I went over 3 hours tonight without a problem and could have went longer but , I wanted to get a jelquing session in . Onward and upward .
 
n8dogg;475084 said:
I just recieved my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. It only took 11 days. I just cancelled plans tonight to wear this thing lol. gotta figure out how to put it on now
Lucky you man
 
Just finished 8 hours in this thing going 2hrs at a time then taking a little break and massaging inbetween. I'm going to start using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]jims strapping[/words] method at all times not in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for now on and wrap as stretched out as possible. I love this thing already. I've owned the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for over a year and never got close to this time logged in a day because it was such a pain in the ass. Off to get drunk now and celebrate my bigger cock to come lol !
 
Another smart dude who totally gets it!!The wrap is as IMPORTANT as the extending!
n8dogg;475201 said:
Just finished 8 hours in this thing going 2hrs at a time then taking a little break and massaging inbetween. I'm going to start using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]jims strapping[/words] method at all times not in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for now on and wrap as stretched out as possible. I love this thing already. I've owned the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for over a year and never got close to this time logged in a day because it was such a pain in the ass. Off to get drunk now and celebrate my bigger cock to come lol !
 
Dickleaker;475216 said:
Another smart dude who totally gets it!!The wrap is as IMPORTANT as the extending!

Ever since dld came out with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] it made alot of sense and I went on a pretty solid routine for 3 months and only gained 1/8. I really feel I could have gained alot more if i had this device back then. Im goIng to slowly start that same routine now with my new goal of 8 hours a day in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and hopefully I'll see the gains I had hoped for a few months back
 
Glad most of you are doing good. I should be back in my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] by next week. Can't wait. But I'm getting good sessions with my other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], about 4 hours a day.
 
Hopefully 2morrow I will have my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] complete kit! I brought it off someone in another forum for $225! And they mailed it to me via priority mail. Talk about getting a deal! I got the thing unused for a steal of a price and didn't have to deal with all the shipping issues. I will be sure to come back and let you guys know what I think and if I need any help with the device.
 
acolon85;475324 said:
Hopefully 2morrow I will have my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] complete kit! I brought it off someone in another forum for $225! And they mailed it to me via priority mail. Talk about getting a deal! I got the thing unused for a steal of a price and didn't have to deal with all the shipping issues. I will be sure to come back and let you guys know what I think and if I need any help with the device.

Lucky you man lots of us are still waiting
 
acolon85;475324 said:
Hopefully 2morrow I will have my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] complete kit! I brought it off someone in another forum for $225! And they mailed it to me via priority mail. Talk about getting a deal! I got the thing unused for a steal of a price and didn't have to deal with all the shipping issues. I will be sure to come back and let you guys know what I think and if I need any help with the device.

Hope you enjoy. mines should be coming this week. This week marks one month since I've ordered my replacement part.
 
Its Here!

The upgrade kit finally came in! Guess it's time to re-read this whole forum for all the tips and instructions yall have found and put together.
 
Ordered on Feb 14th, Arrived today March 5th

The funny thing is, I ordered this a week after ordering the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], and STILL havent gotten the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]... go figure
 
Are you serious dude I ordered mines on the same day or 15th and its still at 60% my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] came within the week when I ordered though
 
UPDATE: Well apparently I stand corrected, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] arrived Saturday at my apartment leasing office and I was never notified. So annoying, but at least I can make some gains now!

Anyways, I think I've got this thing on correctly, no pain per se, but its still rather uncomfortable on the ring of the glans (itchy, and no way to scratch haha). I guess it just has to get used to having latex pressed against it in a vacuum.

It definitely feels different now that the skin isnt being stretched or pinched anymore. I'm really tempted to go to high tension but i'll stick with 900g for now like everyone seems to recommend.
 
If $225 is the going rate for a used set I'll gladly sell mine. It has everything except the belt-expander system. It also has the hose, an extra sluice ring and 3 total packages of replacement latex parts. Is it within the forum rules to sell this on here?
 
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Ok guys! I said I would be back to give my thoughts on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and all I can say is whoa! this was worth every penny!!! got in this thing about the 3rd try in so the learning curve is minimal. I'm an uncut guy and NO [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]EXTENDER[/words] has offered me this much comfort. Great device...
 
p.s: Has anyone found a replacement to the lube that come with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? just curious if not I might have to order another soon being that this company takes a gazillion years to ship out. haha
 
Guys after reading this thread, I expected to wait weeks for my order to come in. I ordered the upgrade kit etc on 2nd March, and it literally turned up 5 minutes ago - 6th March!!! So fucking pumped, I am going to find some time and experiment with this thing.
 
Just spent some time experimenting with it and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Its easy enough in theory but in practice I am finding it difficult to get my cock head into the device with a good enough vacuum to keep it there whilst stretching. Will play around with it more tonight and will get some hours in.
 
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