You guys are not gonna believe this!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im in the DP4000 right now and the head expansion I am getting is unreal and its because of the head expansion from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], my head is 1/3 bigger under vacuum than normal!
One of my biggest flaws I always have had with my penis is smaller glands compared to the rest of me penis!! Maybe this will help!!
I love you all!! Thanks for letting me in to the cock growing club!!
 
9inchtail;473956 said:
Just wondering, for real life training, would the numbers of pull pull out numbering the stops be sufficient for rapid gains? Say keeping the penis expand for 12 or more hours and then resting?

We want to always at all times to be inducing any mature parents that exist into mitosis...anything else is wasted time. You must throw away the false "law of intensity" before you can ever approach any level of real efficiency of growth. Force in Penis Enlargement should START at a level that can be maintained at all times. More force than that is highly inefficient. Until we get rid of the inappropriate forms of "exercise" geared toward hypertrophy, all Penis Enlargement is doomed to be a very slow and inefficient system of "growth". The penis can only "grow" through mitosis, not hypertrophy. Intermittent high-intensity is meant to cause hypertrophy. We want to simply cause the greatest possible accumulation of cells possible over time. This is done by a constant force.

If you have to stop, rest, or "heal", you have failed to maximize efficiency in creating the greatest number of cells.

P.S. Yes, 12 on 12 off is far better than almost everything going on in the Penis Enlargement world though, sadly. But you will still be wasting at least half of your time when you could have been growing.

As a numerical example of how the geometric progression works over that time period though...2^12=4,096 but 2^24=16,777,216 :D If you would like to throw away about 4100% of your potential growth over a day...12 hours is good LOL
 
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hey irspow, your theory is amzing me right now, ive been using the pm for 18 days and its unbelievable but its a lil hard to maintain a high stretch for real long hours alyjough i can do a few at a time.

just a quick thing, im 6.9 inches erect, do i stretch more than that or do i stretch at a lower tension, say above flaccid for real long hours?

because im thinking of wearing the device when i sleep at low tension above flaccid stretch.

is this following your theory?
 
To be honest man...the guy who is having the best progress implementing a PMS (Perpetual Mitosis System) so far is DickLeaker. He is reporting 16 straight hour shots right now. He will be LEGEND. I would follow him if I were you if you are looking to try to seriously implement this thing. He has essentially already found his "equilibrium force" (explained somewhere the "rest" thread) LOL, and that is probably going to be the biggest hurdle for most people. Because they are too obsessed with how much intensity they are using instead of being obsessed with how much time they are under continuous force for. It is a hard, mental block to break, for many people. But eventually they will realize that force is essentially irrelevant in comparison to time.

Yeah, get with DickLeaker. He is gonna' bust this thing out onto the world. He's smart, and he has a good amount of Penis Enlargement experience. He might wind up with the most prodigious gains seen at the rate he is solving the practical side of this theory. I am just explaining how it works, he is finding a way to implement it for himself.

I will have to buy his book. :D (Maybe he will give me an honorable mention LOL)

Oh, don't worry how "far" you stretch man. I could say that your flaccid stretch should be considerably longer than your erection length, but that is not always the case. There are other variables involved, so there is not standard. Go more by how it "feels", if you feel the stretch, you are stretching. :D Don't fall into the trap of how far, because that leads to the same foolishness as how hard, leading to the inefficient obsession with intensity. Just stretch enough that you CAN maintain that stretch for as long as possible. Eventually, like what Leaker is doing, you will find out what level of force can be withstood indefinitely. That is the Holy Grail, of maximizing efficiency and "growth" for your penis.

Intensity means absolutely nothing if it is not maintained over time.

Tom
 
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Hey guys.

As I wrote a couple of days ago a actually gained 0.5 cm from using only the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words], I am now more motivated than ever.
When I used the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] I tried doing the bridge stretches that J1L invented (See link below). Those stretches made it possible for me to an one big bar in a short amount of time. I completely forgot about those stretches after I bought the PM pro, so today I kind of experimented with the again. I have an idea that some of my gain is from straightening the slight curve that I have, some like their curve, but I personally want my wood to be as straight as possible.
Incorporating the idea behind the bridge-stretches and my wish to have a penis straight like a pole I sort of took the bridge-stretches to a new level. See

My curve is to the left, and with these stretches I feel the left side burning like crazy. I am very positive that these stretches will speed up the process.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?62610-New-Size-Genetics-Stretches-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-with-pic

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Squashbuddie;474017 said:
Hey guys.

As I wrote a couple of days ago a actually gained 0.5 cm from using only the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words], I am now more motivated than ever.
When I used the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] I tried doing the bridge stretches that J1L invented (See link below). Those stretches made it possible for me to an one big bar in a short amount of time. I completely forgot about those stretches after I bought the PM pro, so today I kind of experimented with the again. I have an idea that some of my gain is from straightening the slight curve that I have, some like their curve, but I personally want my wood to be as straight as possible.
Incorporating the idea behind the bridge-stretches and my wish to have a penis straight like a pole I sort of took the bridge-stretches to a new level. See

My curve is to the left, and with these stretches I feel the left side burning like crazy. I am very positive that these stretches will speed up the process.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?62610-New-Size-Genetics-Stretches-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-with-pic

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Dude, thank you so much I also have a curve to the left in that same spot!!! Will start doing this today
 
Dickleaker;473946 said:
@ 9inchtail
I pm'd you man.

@Squashbuddie
Ur welcome dude! Slight curve is sexy ,I wouldn't worry about that at all.
Thanks for the reprimand on my cleaniness;) I will try washing the latex more often.

I watch adult entertainment more than sometimes haha.I don't think there is a worry about the glans when getting erections because the latex diaphram covering ur glans will also expand as more blood enters.It was designed with that in mind.
You may have failed physics bro but you are getting great marks here at cock growing academy!!!!!! Pass that smoke pls.

@Supra
Welcome to [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] club bro.In the beginning I went on about this thing like a lunatic and I think alot of guys were rolling their eyes.Now that you see how great the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is you can lend your insight and reputation to the cock growing trials in this thread ;)
Good luck with your peyronies and getting more cock gains and foreskin!!!

@Tparker84
Dude...hurry up and get yours!!Happy you are getting onboard with us.The more guys involved gives this device more respect for what it is and more creative input from various minds on getting all of us closer to our goals faster!!!

@Celttank
Here's a trick to get it off in a hurry...don't remember if I told you before or not:
put the pump ball back on ,turn it to the left position and then squeeze air slowly into the chamber and it will eject your glans.
You should get use to the pro and the pain will lessen the more you use it.


@ Everyone...
You do not want to extend at high tension.We all think that more is better.The more I read about the biological proceses involved and recently what Irspow has added to this topic and comparing Penis Enlargement to ear lobe stretching/neck stretching,lip extending,etc. any body modification that involves gradually increasing the size of that body part,

the risk at high tension is that you can create scar tissue and a densification of collagen and penis tissue which is what you don't want and will eventually slow ur gains to either a snail's pace or stop altogether.
Constant low tension for as much of the day as possible is better than high tension for a short period.It all comes back to the new cells being made.
Again please read Irspow's posts and DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory.Important stuff regarding gains.
The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words] may be one of the first devices that allow us to extend for extremely long periods of time - I have clocked in the past 4 days at 16 hours per day!!!
It may be the equivalent of placing a wooden ring in your earlobe and then going up gradually to the a very slightly bigger one so that the stress to the body is small and the amount of scar tissue created is minor.


Good luck to all of us!!


Dick what is your FSL in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? And what [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are you using?
 
Yeah dickleaker you told me about that before but it doesn't really help. I think my glans are just too big to take it off without pain. That hole is so fucking small i don't see why they don't make different size latex parts.
Did u get your springs yet?
 
I'm I the only one he is slightly disappointed that DLD hasn't came through with the discount for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] that he was talking about? What's up with that? Anyone know?
 
My head is really sore from yesterday so today I am going to stretch with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] that will help my penis recover quickly. Its seems like in the beginning you need to go slow with this cause the stretch is really intense. So I will do one with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and one day with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] until my penis and glads are used to this new stretch.
 
Last I heard dld was arrested but we can't always look for dld to come through with a discount for a product would be nice but that's alot of work for him. I was also waiting for the discount but just went head and got the attachment.
acolon85;474037 said:
I'm I the only one he is slightly disappointed that DLD hasn't came through with the discount for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] that he was talking about? What's up with that? Anyone know?
 
tparker84;474041 said:
Last I heard dld was arrested but we can't always look for dld to come through with a discount for a product would be nice but that's alot of work for him. I was also waiting for the discount but just went head and got the attachment.

There is not going to be a discount for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], he has already set up affiliates with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]. I had to pay full price like the rest of you guys. If you want the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] discount you are going to be waiting a long time my friend
 
Damn that sucks for DLD. FREE DLD!

acolon85;474037 said:
I'm I the only one he is slightly disappointed that DLD hasn't came through with the discount for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] that he was talking about? What's up with that? Anyone know?

tparker84;474041 said:
Last I heard dld was arrested but we can't always look for dld to come through with a discount for a product would be nice but that's alot of work for him. I was also waiting for the discount but just went head and got the attachment.
 
Wow after a day my flaccid is already hanging bigger, this is defiantly working
I think we have found the missing link in Penis Enlargement guys
 
I have watched the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] a hundred times and still havent had success with getting it on. I have been trying for over two hours.
 
sir wankalot;474085 said:
I have watched the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] a hundred times and still havent had success with getting it on. I have been trying for over two hours.

What's happening when you try to put it on? is it not sucking in at all? Half way?
 
As an experiment, manually stretch straight out, then put on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base and manually stretch straight out. For me, I can stretch further without the base, and it's not that I'm really thick, but my ligaments are fully stretched out, and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base keeps me from fully stretching. I've only seen 2 large [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] bases: x4's girth base, and the Static Stretcher Heavy Duty. The SSHD is actually too wide, and it makes it difficult to walk with, so the x4 girth base is the best option, although I did have to make a modification to it to increase comfort. The PM Pro fits on the x4, and when I get my new glans chamber I'll be using the girth base with it.

Also, the general consensus with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] is to not use max tension and go for as much time as possible, but I had success with the FastSize doing the opposite. For 2 years I would only use the noose-style [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 1-2 sets a week (not a typo) with each set being an hour or as long as I could go at max tension. I gained an inch during that time, and it may have helped that I was only 19 when I started. I also never did any manual stretching or jelqing until after those 2 years.
 
Just a short post here

back from the Fuck Lab and my report is my cock is the hardest ,horniest and biggest its ever been!

Thats from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] (and the weed too ;)
 
sir wankalot;474127 said:
I am getting maybe a eighth of an inch inside and that's it.

Dude you are not creating a vacuum.

follow these steps:

1.squeeze all the air from the pump ball
2.put it on the glans chamber end
3.turn it to the left while holding the ball squeezed
4.let go of the ball
 
DL, I have waited long enough! I just placed my order. I can count on you for help when I can't figure this thing out, right??? lol
 
Dickleaker;474129 said:
Dude you are not creating a vacuum.

follow these steps:

1.squeeze all the air from the pump ball
2.put it on the glans chamber end
3.turn it to the left while holding the ball squeezed
4.let go of the ball

I finally got in but it took a minute or two,thanks.
 
Awesome ...you will love this!
Your dream of a big cock is alot closer with this device.

Of course bro!!! It's easy ,you just have to not get too excited when you get it like me and calm down and read and watch the manual/dvd.

I can't wait till DLD gets back and sees what happened with his [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory and this device!


tbone77;474131 said:
DL, I have waited long enough! I just placed my order. I can count on you for help when I can't figure this thing out, right??? lol
 
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IDK around 9" to the end of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so maybe 8".

The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].
Supra;474019 said:
Dick what is your FSL in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? And what [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are you using?
 
Celttank...sounds like you are gifted with a big cockhead so no whining allowed for the 10 seconds.Nothing is for free haha.

Actually [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] company is coming out with a larger latex diaphram for bigger glan

sizes.


QUOTE=celttank;474022]Yeah dickleaker you told me about that before but it doesn't really help. I think my glans are just too big to take it off without pain. That hole is so fucking small i don't see why they don't make different size latex parts.
Did u get your springs yet?[/QUOTE]
 
tparker84;474106 said:
Getting jealous over here my order is at 60% it feels like elementary when everyone is doing Penis Enlargement without you haha

Me too!! Hurry up and ship already.

Do they send out An email with a tracking number once shipped?
 
I asked for mines and they sent it to me the next day just send them a message with your address or transaction number and do to the dhl website in Germany they should send you a link
n8dogg;474144 said:
Me too!! Hurry up and ship already.

Do they send out An email with a tracking number once shipped?
 
tparker84;474145 said:
I asked for mines and they sent it to me the next day just send them a message with your address or transaction number and do to the dhl website in Germany they should send you a link

Thanks I just sent an email out to them. I can't wait to try this fucking thing lol. I hated the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] comfort issues . I could only last 30 minutes
 
Dickleaker;474143 said:
Celttank...sounds like you are gifted with a big cockhead so no whining allowed for the 10 seconds.Nothing is for free haha.

Actually [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] company is coming out with a larger latex diaphram for bigger glan

sizes.
Is this true dickleaker? That would b amazing! Where did u hear this?
 
I've been waiting for my 18% discount link/code with no luck. Can anyone hook me up with it so I don't have to rely on their customer service?
 
Another member PM'd me about it .I can search my messages if you want his name.


celttank;474154 said:
Dickleaker;474143 said:
Celttank...sounds like you are gifted with a big cockhead so no whining allowed for the 10 seconds.Nothing is for free haha.

Actually [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] company is coming out with a larger latex diaphram for bigger glan

sizes.
Is this true dickleaker? That would b amazing! Where did u hear this?
 
It seems like they have 2 different emails ,one is for help and one is for customer service.Send an email to both and then when you get a response let everyone know here ok.

The dude who pm'd me said the time frame for the new larger diaphrams was 2 months to be available.

celttank;474197 said:
Nah that's ok dick i'm going to email them myself. Doubt i'll even get a response, we will see.
 
9inchtail;474163 said:
I miss mines so much. I know not to over tighten next time.

If you can 9" do what I suggested in my pm to you.That way I doubt you will miss any gaining .
Rig up some sort of strap or order the one from Ron at [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].He ships usually really fast.
 
They emailed me with a fed ex tracking link but It says order not recieved yet. Is f'ed ex who they shipped everyone elses through?
 
You will usually get a bit of FR in your glans until you get used to it.
If the color is a darker red color ,it will go away after one day.i got the same in the first few days and mine was from too high a tension.
Supra;474222 said:
My glans are a bit discolored, what should I do?
 
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