truant;596051 said:
That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Seeing the big dicks in adult entertainment gives me motivation to start back up again but it still kills me to think those guys can start pe at my goal and be monsterous like 10+ with only a 1 inch gain not to mention the troublesome girth and how hard it is to gain if your not naturally girthy.

Most cocks in adult entertainment aren't as big as you think they are of course there are some freaks but a lot are not monstrous
 
8incyclops;596053 said:
truant;596051 said:
That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Seeing the big dicks in adult entertainment gives me motivation to start back up again but it still kills me to think those guys can start pe at my goal and be monsterous like 10+ with only a 1 inch gain not to mention the troublesome girth and how hard it is to gain if your not naturally girthy.

Most cocks in adult entertainment aren't as big as you think they are of course there are some freaks but a lot are not monstrous

Yeah the freaks, take a guy like danny d for example. Ok maybe in a few years I can attain the kind of length he has with hard work but the guy has a solid 2 inches on me or more and naturally it looks.

I'm more worried about the girth aspect because the width and girth on his is massive. Me starting at 5" girth I have no idea how I'm going to get that kind of meat and overall mass inside my dick when I don't have it naturally and if I did it would be temporary girth from what I heard.

How can you get that kind of girth without surgery and I think even if I got surgery I wouldn't have that kind of mass. A guy like that can start pe and be light years ahead of me on his first day and probably see better faster results.

Idk I just read other forums and get discouraged I'm still gunna keep up pe no matter what and take any gain I can. I don't want to think about gains though so I'm trying to just focus on training.
 
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That's why I'm looking into the LG hanger so I can work hanging in with those devices for when I'm more conditioned and so it can shock my penis into growth because I never really hung before consistently or started a serious hanging career.

With the penis master pro, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], and lg with various manuals going for a while I shouldn't have to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a long time and eventually that will become a shock to the penis after not using it and boost me over that plateu. I'm interested to know if there's any more devices or manual techniques or is that it?
 
I also worry if what if when I didn't have much knowledge of pe and fibrosis and I pumped and did clamping too hard and created fibrosis in my penis. And I can't grow the length I could of had than if I started out with knowing all this and being more cautious I wonder how much damage I done if I did do any damage. I did bust a small blood vessel in the glans which reopened once or twice during clamping and pumping a while back. Also when I tried doing hard manual stretches ect. I wonder if that will come back to haunt me.

I just feel if I started out like this years back I could have made gains and just chilled instead of trying to force the gains. I'll take it as a learning experience because pe is still developing and I guess you could count it as a pioneer stage or something so I made terms with that. It's just I hope new guys new to the pe scene somehow see this message and what it means that harder isn't necessarily better in pe particularly in the beggining stages. Because I feel that a pe career is more delicate than we see it as. Similar to the ripple effect like when a stone is dropped in water. That how you train really matters.
 
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Now I know what removing the slack means to adjust tension I think. Next to the tension clip on my right hip is a patch of sticky Velcro. I can now pull on the second top strap that has the slack in it and pull the desired tension and simply Velcro that same strap with the slack onto the sticky patch of Velcro.

I will try playing with the belt tommorow. I don't think the slack strap is supposed to be working with the tension clip or do I just tug and strap like I'm saying. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt is tricky they didn't really go into detail with it enough.
 
truant;596054 said:
8incyclops;596053 said:
Yeah the freaks, take a guy like danny d for example. Ok maybe in a few years I can attain the kind of length he has with hard work but the guy has a solid 2 inches on me or more and naturally it looks.

I'm more worried about the girth aspect because the width and girth on his is massive. Me starting at 5" girth I have no idea how I'm going to get that kind of meat and overall mass inside my dick when I don't have it naturally and if I did it would be temporary girth from what I heard.

How can you get that kind of girth without surgery and I think even if I got surgery I wouldn't have that kind of mass. A guy like that can start pe and be light years ahead of me on his first day and probably see better faster results.

Idk I just read other forums and get discouraged I'm still gunna keep up pe no matter what and take any gain I can. I don't want to think about gains though so I'm trying to just focus on training.

I used to have this kind of anxiety when I would look at men far bigger than me. In the beginning guys like Rocco and Peter North scared me, but over time I reached and went beyond their size. As soon as this happened I started to look to even larger guys and set my mind to get there and over time, quite a bit of it, I reached their size also. Today I look towards Mandingo as being the final goal and it does give me anxiety but I have learned over my time in PE that I will eventually beat him. PE is all about remaining consistent and reaching smaller, more attainable goals. If I looked at Mandingo in the beginning and set my mind there I do not think I would have made it so far. Small steps to the big prize.
 
doublelongdaddy;596099 said:
truant;596054 said:
I used to have this kind of anxiety when I would look at men far bigger than me. In the beginning guys like Rocco and Peter North scared me, but over time I reached and went beyond their size. As soon as this happened I started to look to even larger guys and set my mind to get there and over time, quite a bit of it, I reached their size also. Today I look towards Mandingo as being the final goal and it does give me anxiety but I have learned over my time in PE that I will eventually beat him. PE is all about remaining consistent and reaching smaller, more attainable goals. If I looked at Mandingo in the beginning and set my mind there I do not think I would have made it so far. Small steps to the big prize.

Those are some inspiring words DLD. I never thought of it like that small attainable goals for the big prize. Speaking of Mandingo I saw your ruler pic up on a adult entertainment tube site as a ad to gain size lol I was like wait that's DLD I forget what site maybe xvideos it was one of the popular ones. You look comparable to Mandingo in that pic and gained 4 inches of length and 2 inches of girth over 10 years! That right there is sensational and I should be looking towards you for inspiration lol your the one trying to help us. I would imagine the rest of us can do it because all the new tools that you didn't have DLD like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and penis master pro ect. A guy 6x5 inches should beable to get up to 10x7 if he sticks to the routine. It does seem daunting when you put it like that. I guess baby steps lol.
 
Today I tried wearing the medium [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell but it kept losing suction with the piece of cotton I will try using a whole cotton ball with it.

The small bell I only need a little piece of cotton and it doesn't lose suction and is a comfortable size all around better than the medium I think. The medium is large but the large is extremely large like for pumped penises maybe it might be good for a little while. It's just with the small bell I'm wondering if it's going to get too cramped during erections but I think it's fine. The xsleeves have been a lifesavor with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] as well as the cotton balls. I just need to get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt to get some tension going. The tension is really good in the general green setting perfect for bedtime I just want to get my glans conditioned before I sleep with it on.

I'm wearing the penis master pro right now and I'm in heaven it's so nice. I just used a dab of the sliquid organic thick water based gel on my glans and used my hand pump to glide in with ease. Than I have a 20-pack of foam pre wrap I got from Amazon for padding at the base I use new foam wrap every use I just get a good amount and stuff it between the the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] base it does the job.

For some reason I don't need to take my glans semi out of the penis master pro chamber for comfort it just stays in there idk if it's used to it or I put the sluice and diaphram in good.

I like the medium sluices the best. I ordered the large but they sent me the medium sluices and large diaphragms go fiqure. I like the medium sluices better for sure I'm not sure about the diaphragms I'm using the large and it's fine I need to experiment with those next time I reorder.

I also put more effort into manuals today doing a edging/kegel/mini Jelq session to adult entertainment trying to stay erect. That kind of work really helps give me a boost and I like doing the mini Jelqs as a masturbation motion I'm trying to get my penis used to the Jelq and kegel work instead of just general stroking till you cum. I'm all for new variations of manual work if any wants to chime in about it or anything there must be more techniques. I like the ulis also with the horse squeeze and general massaging the glans erect.
 
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After about 2 hours in the penis master pro my glans finally started to feel cramped. So I used the valve to release some air and let the bottom part of my glans slide out the chamber while it still grips the tip. That's why I'm becoming a believer of the penis master pro because of it's comfort I can sleep with it on like this. It's just I don't want to bend the nice [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] lol.
 
The manuals I did before and then going in to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] gave me a nice long faccid and it looks like my gains have came back.

Pe is very weird I noticed because you can be on the longest break and come back to it you all the sudden explode into the newbie gains phase again lol.

I feel a lot better when I'm actively doing pe and some of the anxiety dissapears and those goals get more real.

Today I mark my calender and seriously start the don't break the chain method on my calender since I have a grasp on the new devices now. I want to have a constant chain in my calender with pe 7 days a week only rest at night until I start wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at night than it's really game on. Only rest days are for when I absolutely can't do pe because of other things and even then I will be in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].
 
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truant;596175 said:
After about 2 hours in the penis master pro my glans finally started to feel cramped. So I used the valve to release some air and let the bottom part of my glans slide out the chamber while it still grips the tip. That's why I'm becoming a believer of the penis master pro because of it's comfort I can sleep with it on like this. It's just I don't want to bend the nice [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] lol.

Good to hear that the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] can be used for night use, I always believed it to be more of a day tool. How would you com are the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for night use?
 
doublelongdaddy;596270 said:
Good to hear that the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] can be used for night use, I always believed it to be more of a day tool. How would you com are the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for night use?

Sorry for the late response. The first night I told you I wore the penis master pro and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] while I slept I said it was ok but I ended up getting a water blister on the tip of my glans the morning after. I take the blame because I shouldn't have worn it all night like that but Adleast now I know and that was my first water blister.

The blister is taking a little longer than I thought to heel and was a lil more painful in the long run after I drained it than I thought so it took me out the game for a while ad least for the devices. The tip of my glans feels very beat up but is getting better although this is the 3rd time I was takin out of action do to glans issues I wish there was something to protect it while in the devices.

To answer your question DLD the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] looks like it's more comfortable to wear to bed because it doesn't cause blister and it's comfortable with the piece of cotton on my sensitive glans and you can roll over without breaking the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

I don't think I'm going to wear the penis master pro to bed again. Good news for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] because it ups it's value as a pe tool for night use.
 
truant;597271 said:
Sorry for the late response. The first night I told you I wore the penis master pro and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] while I slept I said it was ok but I ended up getting a water blister on the tip of my glans the morning after. I take the blame because I shouldn't have worn it all night like that but Adleast now I know and that was my first water blister.

The blister is taking a little longer than I thought to heel and was a lil more painful in the long run after I drained it than I thought so it took me out the game for a while ad least for the devices. The tip of my glans feels very beat up but is getting better although this is the 3rd time I was takin out of action do to glans issues I wish there was something to protect it while in the devices.

To answer your question DLD the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] looks like it's more comfortable to wear to bed because it doesn't cause blister and it's comfortable with the piece of cotton on my sensitive glans and you can roll over without breaking the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

I don't think I'm going to wear the penis master pro to bed again. Good news for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] because it ups it's value as a pe tool for night use.

I thought there would be some getting used to it at night before it would perfect itself, I think practice and maybe, in the beginning, setting an alarm or two to keep a good eye on things. I know for myself, if I were looking for length gains I would definitely perfect the night and day use between the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], it seems like the fastest way to put on length. I think I may do some trial runs to give my own review on this method.
 
doublelongdaddy;597407 said:
I thought there would be some getting used to it at night before it would perfect itself, I think practice and maybe, in the beginning, setting an alarm or two to keep a good eye on things. I know for myself, if I were looking for length gains I would definitely perfect the night and day use between the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], it seems like the fastest way to put on length. I think I may do some trial runs to give my own review on this method.

Sorry for the late reply! DLD I should have been more careful with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] (penis master pro) that was my first water blister I ever got. It makes sense how it happened now with me leaving all that suction at the tip of the glans while I slept through night. With the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] that didn't happen so that's good that ad least there's another option for at night.

I blame that water blister on myself but I'm also having other issues with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] even after months of using it. The issue is that the tip of my glans (really only when I pump) the pumping brings out a dark red outline on where the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] was gripping at the tip of my glans but fades when I stop pumping but is still visible to this day.

It's getting better extremely slowly with the use of prescription steroid creams and medical tape. The blister scar will also show but I think those take long to heal. But the redness worries me because it's still there after all this time.

The silicone lube they reccomended with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is not for everyone it dried out my glans in the same area but then the medication cleared it quickly although that redness is still there when I pump like I killed the pigment in my cells or something. I'm doing light Foreskin restoration and using top of the line skin medication and I only see ever so slight signs of it going away but that after not pumping and using any suction device and giving my skin lots of [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] more than I ever givin it.

It's actually only because of the foreskin restoration that I'm in such good shape right now skin wise. But between the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] my glands were taking a beating. The red ring could have been do to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] at night as well. As far as the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] goes I'm just not going to wear it at tip but instead how they show it with glans all the way in.

For some reason I still think my glans are going to get red again if I begin my usual pe again. I just wish there was someway to protect my glans other than the stupid little glans protector [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] gives you. Now I'm at a cross road and I want to do hanging but I think it won't be worth it with foreskin restoration devices.

It is giving me time to perfect my manuals though and the new skin sensations are giving me steady gains especially in girth little my little.
 
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If anyone knows how to protect the glans in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with comfort?. A larger sluice size for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] perhaps or patch the glans with special tape? The medical tape might be a must but the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] will be a little tricky because it requires lube.

The current routine consists of FR ( forskin restoration) and PE. Wearing the DTR (duel tension restorer) during the day.

What I like about the DTR is it can be mounted to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] clips sold from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], the only thing is you need to drill holes lower on the DTR rod so you can stretch further up then it becomes a super foreskin stretcher I just don't have a powerful drill lol.

At night is simple I just wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]-X to bed. In the morning I wake up and my glans are in good shape and the foreskin with a nice healthy thickness like if I came out of the pump.

Routine is 6 days on 1 day off for body to do its thing. Results so far have gone up after using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]-X as a retainer for when I sleep and I haven't even started tugging yet.

Actual penis size has increased by feel and looks by having a longer sack, better erections and sensations that lead me to edge more with the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fleshlight[/words] and it's easier. This break from pe also made me focus more on kegels and manual jelqs and ulis which I do erect without lube needed cause I'm not even going up really.

Then I take out the lube and use the [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fleshlight[/words] and I noticed I handled it much better and needed less lube. Right now I'm debating if I should get the lg hanger so I can start light hanging but I'm wondering even if I do light is it bad that I can't keep it in the extended state do to foreskin restoration. Saving hanging as a way to get over a plateu might be what I have to do because restoration has already gotten me over my recent hump I don't need it.

Last but not least I had to try not to cum as many days as possible to stay horny for long edging sessions and go easy on the adult entertainment maybe af least try to have only a pic with clothes so I can restart puberty phase.
 
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You are really taking advantage of time wisely and your flexibility in modifications is very smart. I hope your visual gains translate to measurable gains and I look forward to an official measurement.
 
truant;611216 said:
If anyone knows how to protect the glans in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with comfort?

What's happening w/ the head that you're having a problem with? Just getting red, that's all?

Mine is usually pink or pink/white after coming out of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I never had problems w/ the protector cap other than a problem pissing afterwards or just edema.
Are you using the regular [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] condoms?
 
smerc;611348 said:
What's happening w/ the head that you're having a problem with? Just getting red, that's all?

Mine is usually pink or pink/white after coming out of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I never had problems w/ the protector cap other than a problem pissing afterwards or just edema.
Are you using the regular [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] condoms?

Hey smerc, I'm sorry it wasn't the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] origionally it was because issues with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. But yes the tip of the head is abnormally red which remained months after I stopped using both the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

It was mainly because certain issues that occurred with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], the phallisan just aggravated it. What happened was that I was using the silicone lube that came with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] then switched to and 2 other silicone lubes the final being sliquid organics silicone/ water formula I thought maybe that might work but the tip of my head became hard and brittle.

Only the tip was brittle where the suction was with the lube the rest of the glans were out of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] chamber but still had the silicone on it but didn't get as nearly bad as the tip got it. I had to use steroid creams and cover the glans and wait for the skin to heal and it did but the problem is the redness remained to this day over 2 months since that happened but only becomes really visible when I pump and my glans became bright red.

Some of this has to do with me having a skin condition as well so I need to be extra careful but you shouldn't have to worry about your skin with pe if your doing it right. That's why smerc I'm going to have to find a way to really protect my head in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and also the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] because it's all night.
 
Hydrocortisone can really help with skin irritation. A small amount goes a long way in cleaning up redness, dryness and itchiness.
 
truant;611404 said:
Some of this has to do with me having a skin condition as well so I need to be extra careful but you shouldn't have to worry about your skin with pe if your doing it right. That's why smerc I'm going to have to find a way to really protect my head in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and also the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] because it's all night.


I wonder if there is a topical out there that can help w/ that w/o aggravating your current skin condition. Seems like an overabundance of blood. Not sure it would be a melanin issue or anything like that.

I can't really fathom how it's not just pumping the head in general that is causing it. It would seem after the lube was no longer being used that the redness/irritation would subside overtime. It's probably just the same problem clampers have w/ discoloration overtime from clamping.

When you're errect, does it take on a different color or does the coloration become worse?
 
doublelongdaddy;611495 said:
Hydrocortisone can really help with skin irritation. A small amount goes a long way in cleaning up redness, dryness and itchiness.

Yes and not all hydrocortisone creams are equal it's best to get prescription grade if you can. You should only use the hydrocortisone cream for 2 weeks about 4 times a week twice a day and then stop all use for a long time or until next outbreak for it to stay effective and because it thins out the skin. I through out a brand new bottle of prescription hydrocortisone because the 2 weeks was up and haven't used it in a year but I do use other better stuff the Dr. gave me for my skin condition (psoriasis).
 
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smerc;611535 said:
I wonder if there is a topical out there that can help w/ that w/o aggravating your current skin condition. Seems like an overabundance of blood. Not sure it would be a melanin issue or anything like that.

I can't really fathom how it's not just pumping the head in general that is causing it. It would seem after the lube was no longer being used that the redness/irritation would subside overtime. It's probably just the same problem clampers have w/ discoloration overtime from clamping.

When you're errect, does it take on a different color or does the coloration become worse?

Smerc my thoughts exactly without the using the lube it has to be the discoloration or blood something of that nature. I use a powerful steroid gel called talconex. I think your right and it is discoloration because it's only when I pump and my condition mixed so something strange happened there. The talconex never took this long to clear something so it's pretty bad.
 
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Yeah, there is pretty much nothing you can do for that.

If it starts taking on your following condition, then I would try some coconut oil or something mixed w/ salicylic acid(as you might already have).
 
smerc;611595 said:
Yeah, there is pretty much nothing you can do for that.

If it starts taking on your following condition, then I would try some coconut oil or something mixed w/ salicylic acid(as you might already have).

Are you a doctor smerc lol I think you hit the nail on the head it's the discoloration mixed with my condition so it flares up when I use the a tool like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], penis master pro, or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

I had this before but not so bad in one area where it flared up with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but it was speckled around the head in the underlying skin and went away with time, creams, medications, medical tape and Saran Wrap. I'm just going to have to go very easy ajusting to the devices. Tape my head in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and try to get it to grip without too much suction. The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is going to be a bit more tricky because it requires lube. My glans are looking healthy right now don't get me wrong I could barely see it but I have only been doing foreskin work and manuals.

I just wish I would have known sooner I would have not worn the devices at night so quick and my head should have been protected by a barrier in any case. I guess there's a bigger learning curve than I thought with pe and the tools in general. Thanks for the coconut oil tip I will try mixing with the prescriptions.
 
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That really blows.

Nope not a doctor, but I did take a CPR class once. :blush:

I think the head is more susceptible to these types of things. You usually only hear about problems on the head area.

I don't know much about the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], so I can't really help.
I know w/ the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], you could probably use a silicone sleeve in replace of the regular condom it comes with, as to help take vac pressure off the glans and exert some of the pull down the shaft w/ the sleeve.

Wish I could help. If the condition is worse in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] due to vacuum/lube(PMP) vs vacuum/no lube(phallosan), then I would try to find some non-irritating lube (if that's possible for psoriasis). Seems you've already tried that though. The taping methods could work, but I think if it's happening due to the vacuum pump in general, then you're probably looking @ an uphill battle <:( .
 
smerc;611626 said:
That really blows.

Nope not a doctor, but I did take a CPR class once. :blush:

I think the head is more susceptible to these types of things. You usually only hear about problems on the head area.

I don't know much about the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], so I can't really help.
I know w/ the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], you could probably use a silicone sleeve in replace of the regular condom it comes with, as to help take vac pressure off the glans and exert some of the pull down the shaft w/ the sleeve.

Wish I could help. If the condition is worse in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] due to vacuum/lube(PMP) vs vacuum/no lube(phallosan), then I would try to find some non-irritating lube (if that's possible for psoriasis). Seems you've already tried that though. The taping methods could work, but I think if it's happening due to the vacuum pump in general, then you're probably looking @ an uphill battle <:( .

Yeah I have the sleeves from autoextender for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and I also know about the cotton ball method and about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt modification it's just that the damage was already done from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and I had to heal that's when I started FR. I remembered with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I think you can tape the head and it will still work but when I tried that my head would not go in the smallest suction bell because it needed lube to squeeze in. Although I'm still thinking I can get away with using tape and creams with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to slide in the small bell which gives the best suction.

Interesting idea smerc with using stuff for my condition with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. The talconex has the consistency of a clear liquid gel and would actually be crazy enough to work with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] but your talking about using a expensive steroid medication over and over again on my head I bet it would be the best lube I can use but it's expensive if I don't have coverage and it would probably lose its effectiveness but it's an intriguing idea regardless. Who knows with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] maybe I just needed bigger sluices and diaphragms and to play with it a bit so I can see how it is when I come back to it then it's going to be a different story because I know now. Thanks for all your help with the brainstorming smerc lol.
 
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truant;611657 said:
when I tried that my head would not go in the smallest suction bell because it needed lube to squeeze in.

I take it you've had no luck w/ the medium bell? What are the issues w/ that? Just suction issues?


truant;611657 said:
Thanks for all your help with the brainstorming smerc lol.

No problem.

Would be nice if the bad head effects were immediate. Then you could test things and find their results very quickly. I would just try to figure out a way to get the best possible stretch w/o putting to much pressure on the head/glans. I wonder if using the medium bell w/ something like a balloon cutout over the head and then applying the protector cap on top of that, if that would do anything positive in the outcome of air pressure in that area. Now I think I'm just talking out my ass. :P
 
smerc;611783 said:
I take it you've had no luck w/ the medium bell? What are the issues w/ that? Just suction issues?




No problem.

Would be nice if the bad head effects were immediate. Then you could test things and find their results very quickly. I would just try to figure out a way to get the best possible stretch w/o putting to much pressure on the head/glans. I wonder if using the medium bell w/ something like a balloon cutout over the head and then applying the protector cap on top of that, if that would do anything positive in the outcome of air pressure in that area. Now I think I'm just talking out my ass. :P

Yeah the medium bell is too loose on me it looses suction if pulled the small bell I can tug all I want and it's jammed tight in there.

I wish the effects were immediate too. The head redness really crept up on me next thing I know my head is almost permanently scarred after a month this condition and pe is not working out for me as I hoped.

Your right in your way of thinking that I need a balloon or some kind of protection for my head to stay healthy or I can't do this. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] protector cap is tight on me and painful but it's similar to what I need but I wish it was thinner and a better fit and didn't cause suction issues.
 
truant;611565 said:
Yes and not all hydrocortisone creams are equal it's best to get prescription grade if you can. You should only use the hydrocortisone cream for 2 weeks about 4 times a week twice a day and then stop all use for a long time or until next outbreak for it to stay effective and because it thins out the skin. I through out a brand new bottle of prescription hydrocortisone because the 2 weeks was up and haven't used it in a year but I do use other better stuff the Dr. gave me for my skin condition (psoriasis).

This is the reason I use the over the counter strength, there is no restriction on how long you can use it and unlike the prescription strength, it will not thin the skin.
 
Another thing is I got a rash I think from the sleeves maybe because I was soaking them in alchohol and not taking them directly into a shower for a thorough rinse. It caused a itchy rash which I believe caused hyperpigmentation of my skin and the lower top part of my shaft healed darker with holes in the skin.
 
truant;612386 said:
Yes and also note putting the hydrocortisone and other medications on the face will only irritate it. Unfortunately I've made that mistake a few times and my nose and forehead was inflamed.

I have the complete opposite reaction. My face stays clear of wrinkles, dryness and redness and I use Hydrocortisone after I shave everyday. My doctor suggested I use it years ago because I was getting terrible rashes after shaving. Since then my face has always been clear.
 
doublelongdaddy;612638 said:
I have the complete opposite reaction. My face stays clear of wrinkles, dryness and redness and I use Hydrocortisone after I shave everyday. My doctor suggested I use it years ago because I was getting terrible rashes after shaving. Since then my face has always been clear.

This makes sense because my derm prescribed me a low dose hydrocortisone cream with aloe in it today for my face.

I showed the derm my red penis which I said thought was do to discoloration.

The derm looked at it and said the redness was from increased blood flow not my condition and that it wasn't discoloration! He said it's called something else (forgot the name) and that it was from increased blood flow and that it will go back to normal in time with the creams and washes he prescribed me. No light or laser therapy needed.

I told him that I used the pump and that other guys are experiencing discoloration do to pumping and that I thought it was permanant.

He said the pumping will do that to it and that it's not called discoloration. Its called something else and that it will go away with the creams.

After I learned that I went home and made a soak of mostly T-gel and a little douse of a prescription wash and soaked my penis in it for 15 min (can also be used as a warmup) and used my penilizer tool to massage the penis during the soak.

Then I went in the shower to open up my pores further and put on the new hydrocortisone that he gave me while still in the shower.

I let my penis air dry in front of the heater so I can put on my DTR [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] without losing grip. Followed by patches of medical tape all around the penis where there was red on the shaft to let the creams work better on the shaft.

Hopefully in time I will see the redness completely vanish. My glans are recovering nicely returning back to the normal skin color faster do to not having it as long as on the shaft.
 
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If it's just from an increase in blood flow, then I don't really see how it can decrease unless you slow down what you're doing. Am I wrong here? Seems to negate most things in the earlier posts. Hopefully you can get the name of the condition.
 
smerc;613100 said:
If it's just from an increase in blood flow, then I don't really see how it can decrease unless you slow down what you're doing. Am I wrong here? Seems to negate most things in the earlier posts. Hopefully you can get the name of the condition.

Smerc I have slowed down. I completely stopped pumping, clamping, hard Jelqs, ect. What do you mean negate things in earlier posts? The condition is called psoriasis but the redness wasn't because of that or discoloration. The discoloration everyone is talking about is called something else it was a wierd name and that yes it's caused by increased blood flow and pumping but it's not permanant you just need to stop pumping/clamping so hard or all together I'm still not sure about light pumping work but I'm sure as hell not doing it hard like I used to.
 
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I mean the negate the link between psoriasis and the penis dilemma. Which is awesome if the two are not linked. Hopefully things subside since it was said that it should go back to normal (in time and with creams/washes). Is that your main psoriasis derm that you went to, for the penile issue?
 
Yeah I guess it wasn't linked because when the derm looked at it he said that's caused by increased blood flow not the psoriasis. That's why I told him about the pumping and other guys who pump having the same problem and if it's permanant. That's when he said yeah pumping will cause it but not to worry it will still go away with the creams/washes and that it's not discoloration there's another name for discolored penis with pumping. Yes I spoke to the main derm today that knows I have the skin problem but sometimes he's not able to see me and has others filll in so yes I was lucky enough to see the big man on campus today and that's what he said so that's also good news for others with the discolored penis problem.
 
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That's good to hear. Do you know if he often gets people up there w/ that same problem in that area? I wonder how much he knows about PE.
 
smerc;613137 said:
That's good to hear. Do you know if he often gets people up there w/ that same problem in that area? I wonder how much he knows about PE.

What problems are are referring to, penis enlargment and skin conditions?

The derm was about to leave the room when I told him the increased blood flow was because of the pump. He then shut the door which was open a crack because he was about to leave. Pump? He said, I say yeah pump.. Like enlargment. That's when he goes yeah that will do that to it and that it's not discoloration like everyone is saying that's something different very confidently like he knew about the side effects of pumping already and that the creams/washes would work with confidence in his voice.

This dermatologist is an older experienced man in the practice for years I'm sure my mild psoriasis problem was nothing to him. More recent my discoloration problem that I showed him. He told me to remove my hand as he calmly looked at it with his magnifying head gear, it's not discoloration or psoriasis that's ........ caused by increased blood flow. I forgot the word but it wasn't a word normally heard of.

Does it burn? He asks, Then I say yes especially if I'm going at it for a long time making a jerking motion with my hands. Then he says hmm I'm going to prescribe you something else and that's when he gives me the second cream promiseh. The first cream being Vytone (light hydrocortisone infused with aloe and other stuff, green like aloe) upon looking at the discoloration and redness. On the way out he says stop it in a joking manner.

The derm also said the stuff I'm using on my penis now I should not have been using its too strong and it probably only irritated me and I've been using it for awhile it's probably the reason I broke out with the sleeves.

Now that I learned all that in one appointment I'm feeling pretty glad I went and it clears my head of a lot of questions.

When we were talking I mentioned my papules briefly but I don't think he heard me. I wanted to get something for that too.

In 4 weeks I have to back so I will get him again for an appointment.

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truant;613153 said:
What problems are are referring to, penis enlargment and skin conditions?

Just the after effects from pumping or if someone had a problem w/ just general discoloration in that area (either by PE exercises or something other).
I wasn't sure if they get people for skin problems in every area or if those types of problems should be dealt w/ by urologists. I guess a skin problem is still a skin problem regardless of where ever it's at.

I only dealt w/ derms on 2 occasions and was just curious how they deal w/ problems in other areas non related to the face(I have acne/scarring btw).

Seems like you've got a pretty good doctor. Hopefully those topicals/washes work (I see that you also posted the actual names in another thread, in case someone was wondering what you use currently).
 
Forgot to mention the derm gave me a good wash called Ketoconazole which is a stronger version of the regular tar washes. He said to keep it on for 3 min. And rinse it off. For my body I keep it on for an hour but face it does irritate so 3 min. in the shower is enough.

Smerc you were on to something when you said to try Salicylic acid! It counts as one wash to be used to actually help get rid of discoloration. I will do a t/sal soak mixed with the medication wash next time.
 
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I only know what I know through acne/scarring/facial pigmentation issues. BHA washes can help in that area, it's just I heard that washes are more for exfoliation and cleaning the skin of dead cells. Some people report lightening overtime. The BHA/AHA creams are what gets most of the praise. Paulaschoice has quite a bit to choose from, but they're DAMN expensive. Usually you can find them on amazon. I just don't know how this stuff works for applications down below. Rosehip oil also gets quite a bit of talk on pigmentation, but that may be more due to sun damage. Unless you're nude bathing w/ UV rays bounces off your dick, I'm not sure if that would help. It gets some talk though for helping people w/ psoriasis (it also has a bit of vitamin a (trans-retinoic acid) in it).
 
smerc;613154 said:
Just the after effects from pumping or if someone had a problem w/ just general discoloration in that area (either by PE exercises or something other).
I wasn't sure if they get people for skin problems in every area or if those types of problems should be dealt w/ by urologists. I guess a skin problem is still a skin problem regardless of where ever it's at.

I only dealt w/ derms on 2 occasions and was just curious how they deal w/ problems in other areas non related to the face(I have acne/scarring btw).

Seems like you've got a pretty good doctor. Hopefully those topicals/washes work (I see that you also posted the actual names in another thread, in case someone was wondering what you use currently).

I'm not sure what topicals a urologist would prescribe maybe something different idk sounds interesting.

About your acne scarring I think the light treatment or laser gets rid of that but it's expensive without coverage.

The doctor just prescribes me new stuff every time I go to him lol I'm using this coverage to it's full extent with stelara shots for my psoriasis as well.

Yes I will name all the prescription topicals I'm using to get rid of the discoloration.

1. Vytone
2. Ketoconazole (wash)
3. Promiseh

That's the powerful stuff I'm using to hopefully take out the discoloration. Along with the penilizer (penis massaging/Jelq tool) to massage my penis during the soaks and it feels good.
 
smerc;613163 said:
I only know what I know through acne/scarring/facial pigmentation issues. BHA washes can help in that area, it's just I heard that washes are more for exfoliation and cleaning the skin of dead cells. Some people report lightening overtime. The BHA/AHA creams are what gets most of the praise. Paulaschoice has quite a bit to choose from, but they're DAMN expensive. Usually you can find them on amazon. I just don't know how this stuff works for applications down below. Rosehip oil also gets quite a bit of talk on pigmentation, but that may be more due to sun damage. Unless you're nude bathing w/ UV rays bounces off your dick, I'm not sure if that would help. It gets some talk though for helping people w/ psoriasis (it also has a bit of vitamin a (trans-retinoic acid) in it).

Yeah the washes take a long time to work usually it's the creams and washes combined but it's true a good wash them you scrape off all the dead skin and scales. Hmmm Amazon has good creams that's where I got the expensive calendula cream from. The BHA/AHA I will check out seems like another high qaulity over the counter cream to fight discoloration that's worth a shot. The rosehip oil is found in my non petroleum jelly cream waxeline. I have a lot of over the counter creams I slowly work into the mix one at a time to see what works and to get rid of stuff. I don't really know about the effects down there yet I'm kinda just getting started on restoring my penis skin and going all out.
 
I would look @ swansons( NOW Foods Rose Hip Seed Oil 1 fl oz Liquid - Swanson Health Products ) or mountainroseherbs( https://www.mountainroseherbs.com/products/rosehip-seed-oil/profile ). The content in the jelly might not be that much. I get most of my stuff through swansons, especially when they have their 20% OFF discounts and amazon when I can't find it on swanons. For bulk products mountainrose or amazon generally has the better deals even after discounts from swansons. I just only discovered paulaschoice a few months back for skin products. They do reviews on most products skin related.
 
Wow! I just had immediate results with the ketoconazole wash and vytone literally a few hours after using it. I took off the dtr [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and noticed my head was shiny, clear and smooth like a baby's bottom and the redness at the tip of the head drastically decreased.

It seems like all the areas new to discoloration are clearing up very fast. The stretched foreskin line in the middle of the shaft made by the dtr [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is the now suddenly white skin cutting the discolored red shaft right in half. It's like my new skin not exposed to the pump is turning back to normal asap. I can't believe how quick the results were. The other medication must have been irritating my skin but still I can't believe how clear the head is and that extreme white line in the shaft cutting through the redness wth did this derm give me. This makes me think if I can use one of these creams for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] what would be best, aloe? I'm not sure because the latex parts on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] can't take any oil that's why it came with the silicone Lube that made me break out.
 
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truant;613170 said:
This makes me think if I can use one of these creams for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] what would be best, aloe? I'm not sure because the latex parts on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] can't take any oil that's why it came with the silicone Lube that made me break out.

Awesome that it's working for you. Very quick results as well. Hopefully it keeps that up and causes the redness to decrease to normal levels overtime.

How many water based lubes have you tried for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] sluice/latex thing that still caused problems?
 
smerc;613202 said:
Awesome that it's working for you. Very quick results as well. Hopefully it keeps that up and causes the redness to decrease to normal levels overtime.

How many water based lubes have you tried for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] sluice/latex thing that still caused problems?

It was most likely the silicone lubes that started this whole reaction begining with the dry shriveled up head tip.

The lubes I tried with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] was the one that came with it.

Then Swiss silicone lube, then after seeing my head skin ever dryer I hoped sliquid natural silk diluted silicone/water formula would work but by then my head was shriveled up and hard.

I made it worse but I don't even want to talk about that...

It eventually got better but I was still using the wrong creams this whole time my skin was still healing.

After a long period of healing I decide to get the water base lube by sliquiid naturals and it was better but I was still having that red tip problem with the suction.

I believe it might have been the head tip skin reacting again to everything that's happened over this summer.

Next it got worse by me getting a rash on the shaft for improper use of the silicone sleeves.

I should have been in a remission period during the summer but things happen.

This day marks a new beginning for two reasons.

One is that I'm finally healing my skin the right way.

Second is the start of a 6 on 1 off foreskin restoration cycle including full retainment at night.

Thanks smerc, I was scared when the doctor said I wasn't supposed to be using a certain cream on my penis that I've been using on and off for a few months now.

Luckily I felt that something was up and made an appointment with the doctor who cleared things up.

Now as a bonus for my skin I have plastic wrap twirled around the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] without the cone (using medical tape) and it feels soothing. Restoration of my penis has begun on this day.

It's marked on my calender with an X meaning that something had been done and that the X chain must go on everyday so I can see my accomplishments on the calender.

Now the little boxes for the numbers on the calender are given an X for accomplishing my pe goals (foreskin restoration, manual growth, skin restoration).

The larger regular boxes on the calender are for body workouts, ect.

On the subject of the discoloration I also hope it clears up back to normal over time I'm going to do a 2 week cycle with the hydrocortisone and see what happens.

I will report back and signs of clearing up.
 
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