My easy to follow yet powerful routine

[DLD]

If you use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] every day 15 minutes in the morning with jelqing and then another 15 minutes later how long will it take to make those results permeanant?

I would not suggest using in this way as it will not bring the best results and you will most likely retain a lot of water. The best way to use that 30 minutes would be to break the sets of jelqing and pumping into 5 minute mini-super-sets. So basically you will do a routine that looks like this:

5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing
5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing
5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing

DONE

This is 30 minutes and the difference as you can see is how long each set is. The shorter sets allow for greater expansion with minimal retention. Men who follow this routine have made the fastest girth gains. To enhance it further, follow the other smart techniques that are in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Thread.

 

[truant]

DLD I tried to do the mini superset the other night. The 5 min. was actually better and helped me gauge the time and keep the flow going of the workout toward that second set which kept me more focused on doing my manuals longer. It was like I have to keep going with my edging session until that second [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] set and I went a long time and it got late lol. Starting with 5 min. and slowly working up to more time is the perfect way to train I saw it the other night! I was even doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches with reverse kegels during the 5 min. Even though I didn't do more [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sets afterward I was surprised what 5 min. can do. Just the thought of doing supersets gave me more solid structure to my training habits and mindset. It turned out to be one of my best girth sessions ever.

Also I emailed [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] and they promptly responded giving me the fedex tracking (which doesn't work) and another German one that says my order is 60% completed so it sounds like it may be here faster than I thought and I chose standard shipping which didn't cost much considering. I'll post a update when I get it.

 

[truant]

I tried the superset routine again when I came home from work. I'm usually tired after work that's one of the reasons why I got the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] so I can be lazy around the house and log in valuable [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] hours.

Although today I was excited to try the girth superset routine again. So I went in the bathroom with my new space heater I got from Walmart for $43. I started off jumping in the shower and I took off my silicone sleeve.

I was surprised to see how thicker and healthier my regular non pumped erect penis was. The sudden change happened when I started doing the 5x5x3 method.

I only recently started doing it when DLD and others were mentioning it on this thread. This routine couldn't have come at a better time because now the training and gains are really starting to get serious and I haven't even started using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] yet or the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] which has also been out of commission until I get the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words].

I was realizing it before but these last few days have been a game changer thanks to the help of DLD once again saving the day with his methods. Today I saw the biggest expansion I've ever seen without FR. For the manuals I was just trying to stay erect with the clamps and experiment with exercises with the clamps on. If I lose erection in the clamp I take it off and get back erect and do manuals with the clamp off.

Then I put it on again at a different angle. I noticed the clamps are more powerful then the cock rings for heavy girth work. I also do [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches for the 5 min. and I use the gator to perform a V stretch while pulling down and out or straight down. So now that I did that today for the first time to really experiment with it it's crazy because my inner penis is actually sore particularly the top base where the gator was digging into during the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches.

When I came out the second set of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I was done from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches and long time spent on manuals. And I'm now the biggest then I ever was and the serious training has only begun image a year from now I can't picture my self being a legit 8" Nbel which is actually clear on the horizon now!

Also I been following DLDs advice on just using pics and sound to use. I quit watching the video I might watch only very briefly not like before where I needed it. On top of this I use my fingertips to edge, focus on thinking very sexual, and I try not to cum for days or try to not cum a week. Today is when I started to see results more clearly.

I'm looking at pictures of girls with clothes on and I get hard just thinking about them and now the holes will actually give me pleasure cause I stopped the hard right handed masturbation. I only use my left hand hard if anything the rest fingertips. I feel myself fantasizing more and I realize I haven't did that I a long time.

Btw an update on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words]. I think it's going through customs right now cause it's stuck at 60% shipped for a couple days. I'm guessing It might come sometime next week. I'll keep you guys posted.

 

[truant]

My [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] arrived over the weekend so it took about 3 weeks to get here. I haven't gotten to try it yet lots of hours at work and I come home too tired to learn it. I'm going to pop in the cd it came with as soon as I get the chance I'll keep posting updates.

 

[DLD]

My [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] arrived over the weekend so it took about 3 weeks to get here. I haven't gotten to try it yet lots of hours at work and I come home too tired to learn it. I'm going to pop in the cd it came with as soon as I get the chance I'll keep posting updates.

Pro?

 

[DLD]

My [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] arrived over the weekend so it took about 3 weeks to get here. I haven't gotten to try it yet lots of hours at work and I come home too tired to learn it. I'm going to pop in the cd it came with as soon as I get the chance I'll keep posting updates.

Pro?

 

[truant]

Yes DLD the kit says [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]peni master[/words] pro on it so it's safe to call it [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] for short even though I'm not getting the device with it I'm using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].

I finally got around to watching the cd that came with the kit. It's pretty basic, it shows the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] being worn upward under loose jeans and it does look stealthy I admit so that's a plus. It shows general assembly of how to assemble the sluice and diaphrams to the ball. Last is the instructions on how to apply the pump or hose.

I'm using the hose method which is better. The pointy thing on the ball is the valve and that's how it also connects to the faceplate that comes with the kit. The regular valve on top has to be unscrewed and replaced with the separate hose valve so you can use the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] with the hose.

What happens is you have to suck out air with getting the best seal as possible in the ball by placing the glans close to the chamber while sucking in. The sluice and diaphram have to be changed because they undergo the tension by gripping the glans.

They say use your tongue on the hose if you need a brake to not let air out. A lot of stuff is to make sure you get a good seal. So as you could imagine it's going to have a learning curve but it's worth it. The kit also comes with a book with more details so it's better to use both. I'll keep every posted on my first hours logged and thoughts.

 

[truant]

I tried to put on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] for the first time today. Let me say it's a tricky demon to put on. I tried using my lungs to suck in air to get my glans in the chamber and it didn't do anything at all. Luckily I had a hand pump laying around that I use for my air pump. The hose from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] kit fit perfectly into the tube of my hand pump and I just wrapped it with tape. Now I was starting to get real suction. The only problem is now is that it's tricky to make the glans go all the way into the chamber without leaving the top ridge of the glans sticking out and it gets painful to keep pumping air. You kinda have to very slowly pump with one hand while guiding the glans in but I haven't gotten it to go all the way in yet I gave up today I'm gunna try tomorrow. It looks like that's where the learning curve is it's very tricky to get the top ridge in there along with the rest of the glans. Maybe someone can give me a tip. I'll keep practicing and I'll let you guys know when I get in this thing.

 

[truant]

Good luck brother. Time and patience. I even notice it takes a little from switching [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiters[/words] on the same pump before I figure this'lady' out. Can't help ya, but am familiar with your 'new tool' figuring out phase.

Sounds like your using the penomant, hows that working out for you Oe13it?


I finally got on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] today and I'm wearing it now. This thing is EXTREMELY comfortable for what it does. It's like it's gently tugging at my glans and I don't feel any discomfort except for a very light pinch. But no real discomfort like with the other methods and it stays on indefinitly.

Putting it on wasn't too bad when I finally realized the trick. One thing is your def gunna need a hand pump unless you want to hyperventilate lol. And you need a good silicone based lube, the lube it comes with is kinda greasy but it works.

After you lube up your glands and the diaphram and sluice you place the tip of the glands firmly into the chamber as much as possible. With the pump in one hand and holding the chamber with the other you have to pull your foreskin back even if your circumcized. As you start pumping slowly you have to actually push the glans and guide it in while pumping and holding your skin back at the same time.

I know it sounds like a lot but it was really going in everytime no problem when I did it like that so I was surprised how easy it was when you learn the trick. I am astatic how comfortable this thing is cause I know what the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] can do if you combine it with other pe methods and the type of gains it leads to which are like DLD's gains! The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is like insurence so you know your going to be getting big results out of your workouts. I give the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] a 9 out of 10 in my book I never imagined this kind of comfort with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] I'm impressed.

 

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Also I want to note that I don't think the chamber of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is supposed to enclose 100% of your glans. With me there's a very minimal part of the frontal glands ridge that just would not fit but in know way did it seem to effect the performance. I also used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] before and clamped so I was more beefy and it still got me in and secure to where I'm almost 100% inside the chamber. People with big glands don't expect to fit into the ball chamber entirely. It kinda just sucks onto the glands whatever you can get you can get and it grabs on. It's a very pleasant stretch and could be worn hours on end with ease.

You can also use the hand pump release button to decrease the pressure if it gets too high while trying to put your glands into the ball.

You can ajust the pressure you want to feel when you wear it. When
I took off the pump and looked at the gage and it was comfortable at 15 hg.

 

[truant]

Hi I'm back after a while, just want to mention that I was wrong when I said your glans won't fit all the way in the ball of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. Mine wasn't before cause I was using the smallest adapter. When I use the medium my glans go all the way in easy with the hand pump only at 10 pressure and stays on for however long I want with extreme comfort this thing is wonderful. If you have really big glans like DLD it tells you to use no adapter just the ball which gives you the widest whole but less grip. The medium was perfect for me I slip right in with great grip.

 

[truant]

Hello my brothers, an update will be coming soon.

In the mean time I've been wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] every day for almost a week.

So far I'm fully 110% satisfied with anything that has to do with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], and is in my opinion the top tool to date.

I'm wearing all the bars hours on end with mind blowing comfort and I'm seeing rapid flaccid gains.

Also I have on my absilicone sleeve. The older one I cut down to size I'm using with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for warmth and support and massages. I consider that sleeve short now that's how fast the results are.

The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is very easy to put on with the hand pump and silicone based lube. Get better silicone lube yourself instead of the stuff that comes with it. I got this stuff called Swissnavy it looked good.

I wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] under loose fleece pants and just take it off after a long period of time like I remember going over 4 hours straight one night. I take it off and still have the silicone sleeve on. If it's before bed I change into my longer new silicone sleeve but I think I still have to cut it just a lil cause it slipped off the one you wear with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is going to have to be a lil below the cordal skin ridge so the ball can grab on good.

I even use the the smaller 3-packs sleeves from absilicone for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] base. I just cut it so now it's like a rectangle cusion for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] base.

The gains overall have been fascinating and I've been very confident I can reach my goals and it's actually possible with this.

 

[BigDickler]

I would not suggest using in this way as it will not bring the best results and you will most likely retain a lot of water. The best way to use that 30 minutes would be to break the sets of jelqing and pumping into 5 minute mini-super-sets. So basically you will do a routine that looks like this:

5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing
5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing
5 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 minutes of Jelqing or Slow Squash Jelqing

Very sound advice. I used to wonder about water retention and if it would have that effect on your skin like when you stay in water too long. You know... when you get over-hydrated and start to wrinkle because of it.

 

[truant]

Very sound advice. I used to wonder about water retention and if it would have that effect on your skin like when you stay in water too long. You know... when you get over-hydrated and start to wrinkle because of it.

Yeah this routine changed how I did girth it's great. Although I have been taking breaks from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and girth when using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] 7 days on and it always stays at low tension no matter what I do so I'm really benefiting from just that right now and reaping what I can.

I'm also interested in mikrshlorts article that says it's best to gain all you can in length before you move on to making any girth gains. It makes sense, just milk every length exercise you can to make your optimal length goal. You would even get girth from that length too then when you do girth your gains will explode.

It's also mentioned that the urologist said to do mini Jelqs at the base and that the Jelqs or and kind of manual would be ok with the length work so you can milk every possible gain from that too.

 

[JohnnyArmy]

can anyone give me a list of all the acronyms for the routine at the top? haha im trying to look them all up at once, seems like allot of good information that I would like to work off of also for a begginer should I be jelquing fully erect?

 

[truant]

can anyone give me a list of all the acronyms for the routine at the top? haha im trying to look them all up at once, seems like allot of good information that I would like to work off of also for a begginer should I be jelquing fully erect?

Acronyms to DLDs superset routine? It's just a superset of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]batmate[/words] and Jelqs. Or did you mean my actual post above your post?

 

[Super]

Think he meant your actual post above.

 

[truant]

Think he meant your actual post above.

My routine took a turn. I'm back into the foreskin restoration game. But I have tons of notes and products to show you guys I picked up when using my penis master pro and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. My routine now is very passive, after coming off a stress injury from overtraining with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I'm on a long break do to my caution and I ordered the penilizer to massage and put pressure on the stressed area that is different from massaging with my hands. The area is below the glans which still does not feel right till this day after wearing too many bars and becoming too pulled and stressed in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] but I don't know if I'm imagining it or not.

But that's where I'm at right now. I'm embarking on a foreskin restoration journey and I will make a update on that because that's a whole different area and I look forward to filling up this thread with my findings from my ever changing pe journey.

 

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Things I want to touch apon in the next update.

- foreskin restoration
- staying safe and warm in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]
- penis master pro (PMP) why to start out slow
- the penilizer review
- length and girth routine (why I chose length)
- massaging and warm-up
discussion
- full product list

Right now I really want to restore my foreskin as quick as possible and get it out of the way so I can go on with regular length goal. I will probably dabble and ease my way into length training while doing foreskin work offcourse and

I'm very interested in the art of massaging the penis and preventing and treating injuries. That's why I got the penilizer to put pressure that I couldn't with my hands on weak spots like below the glans.

Watch that area when using too much stress in length work but ad least that's where I felt a mini tear of some sort when using all the bars plus one small bar for long periods of time I guess I wasn't used to it enough after a month of training with all bars the the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words].

If I were to do it all over again I take it easier cause its a powerful product and I saw gains from it but it can be so comfortable it can be deceiving sometimes.

It's just a learning experience such as with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]/clamping and burst blood vessl in the penis head the sensitive vessels at the tip burst twice for me because I overdid it and I didn't see that till later on because I was excited to see gains.

Now this led me to the penilizer and constantly massaging like giving my penis therapy, warmth, proper rest, ect. And now foreskin restoration which I really want to regrow so any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Evilfox]

Hello, you are posting in the newbies section, please if you can avoid using acronyms, Thanks!

 

[truant]

Hello, you are posting in the newbies section, please if you can avoid using acronyms, Thanks!

Sorry for the confusion. My current routine is based around the fibrosis theory so it's ideal for begginers and it's very simple unlike before.

First thing first the fibrosis issue with the urologists. They say if you do heavy girth work such as pumping and clamping or go too hard in general it can cause fibrosis in the penis. Basically the lighter work you could have gained from is thrown out by the excessive pe routine and your body fights the growth process. So it's best to start out as light as possible and preferably length before girth.

The urologist also mentions length should come before girth and to actually fullfill your length goal before doing any kind of girth work. With the exception of light work such as jelqing and edging.

I will post links of the articles but I believe one got deleted because the poster had too many comments.

After reading these articles I stopped pumping. That's when my routine was altered towards achieving my length goal of 9", my last measurement I was hitting well above the 7" mark and surprisingly almost 8" if I pressed the tape measure into my pubic bone and I was below 7" when I started with not much girth gain maybe going above 5" from a .2 inch girth gain. But all these gains were from my sporadic learning years.

Only now have I reached a point where I can continually do pe 24/7 with the products I have. I will make a items list tomorrow so you know exactly what I'm using. But I'm mainly using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the penis master pro (air device), 2 foreskin restoration tools wich I will mention in the list. The xsleeves from autoextender, especially the soft xsleeve for sleeping. The fleshlite for edging. The fast mini Jelq method and long edging sessions in the fleshlite.

I will give a detailed list and how to use them but those are pretty much the key items. The 2 foreskin restoration products are the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]-X [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and the DRT (dual tension restorer). This routine will be especially good for people who want to regrow foreskin and length at the same time. I love how the foreskin glides it also gives me gains using the devices. Also hanging will be coming to increase length work in the future with the lg hanger but I'm going to save that for a little later.

 

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Also the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] I haven't even opened yet that is supposed to be a Jelqing tool. I don't expect a better Jelq than my hands but I'm interested in the massaging aspect.

I will give a product list and details on using them soon.

Another quick note is I had to use wart freezer to heal warts caused by over pumping with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and it took long too heal. At the time I was also healing from overdoing it in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so watch out and start out very very light because injuries even minor ones will take you out the game for a while so you want to stay steady.

The good thing is you don't need warm-ups cause your starting out so light and your body is adapting naturally.

 

[truant]

A way to make things more intense would be to somehow wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] all day and sleep with it on or another product you can use with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words]. Called phallosen I believe and it's similar to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] in that it uses air but it's a bit more expensive. I'm going to have to do more research on the phallosen to get an idea.

PS: The jelqing tool I was referring to in the last post was the penilizer.

 

[DLD]

Also the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] I haven't even opened yet that is supposed to be a Jelqing tool. I don't expect a better Jelq than my hands but I'm interested in the massaging aspect.

Nothing is better than your hands for jelqing. Devices can not mimic the intensity and variation to size and shape that the hands can.

 

[DLD]

Also the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] I haven't even opened yet that is supposed to be a Jelqing tool. I don't expect a better Jelq than my hands but I'm interested in the massaging aspect.

Nothing is better than your hands for jelqing. Devices can not mimic the intensity and variation to size and shape that the hands can.

 

[truant]

Nothing is better than your hands for jelqing. Devices can not mimic the intensity and variation to size and shape that the hands can.

Real talk DLD I need to do more manuals and Jelqs. Haven't been on here in a while the forums seemed to have been down but now they are back up and good to see you back DLD.

My journey has been interesting over the past few months with ups and downs and new tools such as the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I want to get in detail about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and my progress with them so far like why you shouldn't use lube with silicone in it with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] cause it will dry out the skin really bad. Also the learning curve with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and the difference between the two devices. Will post again soon. Thanks

 

[DLD]

Real talk DLD I need to do more manuals and Jelqs. Haven't been on here in a while the forums seemed to have been down but now they are back up and good to see you back DLD.

My journey has been interesting over the past few months with ups and downs and new tools such as the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I want to get in detail about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and my progress with them so far like why you shouldn't use lube with silicone in it with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] cause it will dry out the skin really bad. Also the learning curve with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and the difference between the two devices. Will post again soon. Thanks

The hands have the ability to squeeze with accuracy and to loosen or tighten a grip at will, something that is just not available in a device yet. I have a particular interest in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for it's ability to stretch at night but I need a lot more experience. Is yours the newest [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or the old model?

 

[truant]

The hands have the ability to squeeze with accuracy and to loosen or tighten a grip at will, something that is just not available in a device yet. I have a particular interest in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for it's ability to stretch at night but I need a lot more experience. Is yours the newest [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] or the old model?

I ordered the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] 2 months ago so I believe it's the new version unless they came out with a new version more recently. Yeah DLD I've actually saw a noticable difference when I was doing manuals with the devices compared to when I wasn't. The gains looked like they were coming a long a lot faster with the manuals incorporated and also when I was doing a daily 30 min. Edging session to adult entertainment as an exercise aswell as kegels. The erect manual work was just supplementing the devices very well.

Now what happened with the penis master pro was that I was using silicone based lube with the device as reccomended and a couple weeks later it would reak havoc on the skin of my glans. Even when I upgraded to a organic silicone lube. So now I bought a bottle of sliquid gel which is just a thick water based lube and that's really the only option I have unless someone else has an idea. My skin is healing so havnt tried the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] with the water based lube but I've used worse like oil products and it worked just fine it just degraded the latex parts so that's why I got the thicker water base lube.

The penis master pro with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] setup has been a more reliable tool than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] SO FAR. The penis master pro will grip your head and not let go and it will let you take your glans out of the chamber half way or more until it only grips the very tip of glans which is great cause it gets cramped in the chamber and you can spent hours in the penis master pro like that with glans out of the chamber but still getting stretched it's wonderful.

The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a little bit awkward in that it uses a belt to give you a stretch and not the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. I found out I had to use the smallest suction cup size so it wouldn't lose suction like the med and large size was. I have to slip into it using my creams but the good thing is I can slide in easy with the cream and it doesn't lose suction with smallest size. I can and have worn the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to work and to bed without issues. It's just the condom sleeves they give you are expensive and the smallest one broke in the shower already with soap.

I would suggest using rubbing alcohol to clean the latex sleeve condoms the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] comes with. Also using the medium condom sleeve with the small bell for most people because the small condom sleeve can break easy and the medium may work just as well and be more comfortable than just take it out of the alcohol rinse extra good and powder and your good to go.

Also if you use silicone sleeves make sure you clean those with alcohol as well and not soap because it will leave a smell. But if you don't rinse the sleeves well you can get a rash from the alcohol. So what I've done is wrap my penis with plastic wrap then the sleeves which is actually healthy method for skin you just change the plastic wrap and good to go.

A lot of things I noticed is stuff about cleaning the tools properly and it also helped me to learn and respect them.

As for the penis master pro and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. I use both, the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] for heavy duty stretching when I'm home and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for a light stretch at work and sleeping. Both devices really compliment each other I have nothing bad to say about them except the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] has a steeper learning curve.

 

[8incyclops]

Can you wear the phallson comfortably walking around at work?

 

[truant]

Can you wear the phallson comfortably walking around at work?

Yes, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is very comfortable to the point where you forget you have it on. I had a pep in my step because I knew I was killing two birds with one stone. It seems it's easier to keep the tension with the belt while standing and walking opposed to sleeping and you wake up and your getting 0 stretch. After coming home from work I noticed I was still in the green zone of tension and took it off to find a noticeably stretched flaccid. That was only in the green tension zone and there is a learning curve because I haven't fiqured out how to keep the tension in yellow because the belt tensioner stops while your in green so it's tricky. I still have no idea how I'm going to get higher tensions with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt I need to call them or something.

So there is a steep learning curve with this thing. I'm just glad I can fit in that small bell or it would never stay on. You have to be a monster just for the medium size bell not to lose suction and slip off. The small is perfect and really does hold like glue only cause my glans exceed the size of the small bell I just need to use my creams to slide in but it fits like a glove. You just need the condom sleeves they give you cause it will lose suction immediately without them but they can be half assed with the small bell because you really get good grip in that.

 

[youknowme123321]

Yes, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is very comfortable to the point where you forget you have it on. I had a pep in my step because I knew I was killing two birds with one stone. It seems it's easier to keep the tension with the belt while standing and walking opposed to sleeping and you wake up and your getting 0 stretch. After coming home from work I noticed I was still in the green zone of tension and took it off to find a noticeably stretched flaccid. That was only in the green tension zone and there is a learning curve because I haven't fiqured out how to keep the tension in yellow because the belt tensioner stops while your in green so it's tricky. I still have no idea how I'm going to get higher tensions with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt I need to call them or something.

So there is a steep learning curve with this thing. I'm just glad I can fit in that small bell or it would never stay on. You have to be a monster just for the medium size bell not to lose suction and slip off. The small is perfect and really does hold like glue only cause my glans exceed the size of the small bell I just need to use my creams to slide in but it fits like a glove. You just need the condom sleeves they give you cause it will lose suction immediately without them but they can be half assed with the small bell because you really get good grip in that.

what is the longest you've worn it for? I am very interested in this product. Is it safe to say you believe it is worth the money??

 

[smerc]

So there is a steep learning curve with this thing. I'm just glad I can fit in that small bell or it would never stay on. You have to be a monster just for the medium size bell not to lose suction and slip off. The small is perfect and really does hold like glue only cause my glans exceed the size of the small bell I just need to use my creams to slide in but it fits like a glove. You just need the condom sleeves they give you cause it will lose suction immediately without them but they can be half assed with the small bell because you really get good grip in that.

You can use the silicone sleeves from abs or xsleeve to replace the condoms if they have suction issues. It seems like the protector cap may be helping w/ the suction also while using the small bell. Since it barely fits in there. The condom sleeves replace the need for needing new condoms

There is an adjustment video for the belt on their youtube page that might help you get out of the green. You should try removing some slack in the belt and seeing if that helps. As long as the pump/attachment point is not resting on your hip, holding the springs back from reaching the yellow. You might try researching the use of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt + [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], as some users are doing this. Seems most are doing this for base pain reasons, but you might check if it helps w/ increasing spring tensions to get higher on the color markers.


What are you using the "creams" on? The protector cap?

You might try the medium w/ a cream substance inside near the base of the condom (where it rolls), so that it can help create a seal. Never heard of anyone doing this, but it could possibly help for suction issues. Kind of like how people use vaseline w/ the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words].

 

[youknowme123321]

You can use the silicone sleeves from abs or xsleeve to replace the condoms if they have suction issues. It seems like the protector cap may be helping w/ the suction also while using the small bell. Since it barely fits in there. The condom sleeves replace the need for needing new condoms

There is an adjustment video for the belt on their youtube page that might help you get out of the green. You should try removing some slack in the belt and seeing if that helps. As long as the pump/attachment point is not resting on your hip, holding the springs back from reaching the yellow. You might try researching the use of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt + [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], as some users are doing this. Seems most are doing this for base pain reasons, but you might check if it helps w/ increasing spring tensions to get higher on the color markers.


What are you using the "creams" on? The protector cap?

You might try the medium w/ a cream substance inside near the base of the condom (where it rolls), so that it can help create a seal. Never heard of anyone doing this, but it could possibly help for suction issues. Kind of like how people use vaseline w/ the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words].

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...*-8x6-***-adult entertainment-STAR-PACKAGE***

Truant, If you go to post #17 in that thread you can see pics of a guy who used sleeves from autoextender sleeves to modify and improve his [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. They are great pics!! This is what Smerc was saying you could do. Check out that thread

 

[truant]

You can use the silicone sleeves from abs or xsleeve to replace the condoms if they have suction issues. It seems like the protector cap may be helping w/ the suction also while using the small bell. Since it barely fits in there. The condom sleeves replace the need for needing new condoms

There is an adjustment video for the belt on their youtube page that might help you get out of the green. You should try removing some slack in the belt and seeing if that helps. As long as the pump/attachment point is not resting on your hip, holding the springs back from reaching the yellow. You might try researching the use of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt + [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], as some users are doing this. Seems most are doing this for base pain reasons, but you might check if it helps w/ increasing spring tensions to get higher on the color markers.


What are you using the "creams" on? The protector cap?

You might try the medium w/ a cream substance inside near the base of the condom (where it rolls), so that it can help create a seal. Never heard of anyone doing this, but it could possibly help for suction issues. Kind of like how people use vaseline w/ the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words].

^This. You have answered pretty much all my questions about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. Thank you for telling me about the xsleeves because I really like those sleeves and I was trying to find a use for them again and that's a huge advantage because they are way cheaper than the condoms from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I'm glad I didn't order them that's a very nifty trick I need to try. As for the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] mod I heard of people using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt from other forums when I googled it but not the sleeves was going to get the belt but now I def am to try the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. The creams I use are non petroleum jelly like aquafur and waxalene and I apply it on the glans so I can slide in the small bell. If I used the protector cap I wouldn't beable to fit in the small bell but maybe the medium. When wearing the small bell I can pull hard on it and it won't come off so I think it would great with just the xsleeves and small bell alone for a clean and simple mod a long with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt. This is great news. Do you know which xsleeves he gets? Right now I have a half of a soft and hard sleeve left over.

That's interesting what you say about how to tension the belt and mess with the slack I knew there was a trick to the belt lol that's crazy. I will get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt I wonder what the difference will be and it's always good to have another belt they are pretty cheap too. Thanks so much for the good info.

 

[truant]

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...*-8x6-***-adult entertainment-STAR-PACKAGE***

Truant, If you go to post #17 in that thread you can see pics of a guy who used sleeves from autoextender sleeves to modify and improve his [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. They are great pics!! This is what Smerc was saying you could do. Check out that thread

I think it's well worth it for what it does and especially after what smerc said about using it with the xsleeves and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt that's going to make a really cool and simple mod. Thanks for the link that helps add to the info about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] on this page.

 

[smerc]

You can use the silicone sleeves from abs or xsleeve to replace the condoms if they have suction issues. The condom sleeves replace the need for needing new condoms

Meant to say, the silicone sleeves (referring to abs/xleeve) replace the need to keep replacing the condoms (also saving $$$) every 2-3 months.

 

[smerc]

You could also use a balloon. You roll the end where you blow on, onto the bell. Then cut w/ scissors somewhere in the middle of the balloon, depending on your flaccid stretched girth. This is just a text example for the 12" balloons. You can't use the opening of the balloon the opposite way as this will act as a cockring, which is what you don't want.

You can also use the medium bell + medium condom and cut a 1/2" out of the middle of a balloon, then stretch that part over the bottom of the condom where it's losing suction. This will establish pressure @ the condom base making sure no air is let out.

Most people just get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words]/VLC belt due to base pain from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] foam ring. There could be other reasons though, but I have yet to see them.

[from another forum] Here is another example of another sleeve and which to get. It shouldn't matter as long as suction/seal is kept.
View attachment 28969

 

[truant]

Meant to say, the silicone sleeves (referring to abs/xleeve) replace the need to keep replacing the condoms (also saving $$$) every 2-3 months.

I prefer the xsleeves over absilicone.

Hmmm the sleeve shown in the pic looks like a xsleeve (soft) attached to the bell which makes sense because the soft sleeves are the easiest and most comfortable to work with very interesting you have peeked my interest.

You can use balloons too that's crazy I would have never guessed you can use silicone sleeves that changes everything because your saving so much money not having to buy the condoms from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and plus it's easier to put the silicone sleeves on the bell! The condoms were cumbersome and annoying and broke easy.

Also it's true that foam ring was uncomfortable I didn't know the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] mod enabled you to use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] without the without the foam ring that's awesome.

I have to say these changes make a huge difference I can actually wear this thing and make gains along with my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] I can't wait to get back into it thank you [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] brothers for the tips I'm going to order more soft xsleeves and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belts in all 3 colors lol.

PS: didn't know there was a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] section now lol is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] giving discounts on that now?

 

[truant]

I'm also curious to see how the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt differs in tensioning compared the the belt the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] came with. I haven't tried that method with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt yet I can only stay low green as of now.

 

[smerc]

PS: didn't know there was a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] section now lol is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] giving discounts on that now?

You get free condom sleeves w/ purchases. That's the deal offer it seems.

 

[youknowme123321]

with all these improving mods any chance of you taking pics and/or video?

 

[DLD]

with all these improving mods any chance of you taking pics and/or video?

We will have live video within a day or two. We have been working on the plugin for a couple months now but we will essentially be the Youtube of the PE world. I think with video so easy to upload soon many will express themselves with this option.

 

[Elb7777]

Hi i am a newbie with this issue and i am very serious about this. What can you do for me? I have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], i have problems with the comfort strap, the ones that they sell in ebay they slip and my penis gets out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].. How can i get an original? Please help me and a routine please!

 

[Elb7777]

Hi i have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words][/words], but the comfort strap broke. I buyed 3 different in ensy and they not work. How can i get an original? Please help me. I want to buy! Please help

 

[DLD]

Hi i have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words][/words], but the comfort strap broke. I buyed 3 different in ensy and they not work. How can i get an original? Please help me. I want to buy! Please help

You can simply replace the comfort strap with a strip of velcro to attach instead. Here are the instructions: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...s-Attachment-Modification-Velcro-Strap-by-J1L

 

[truant]

I'm back guys I tried using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with the autoextender sleeves last night. I kept on losing suction with it the times I tried I only got a good seal one time but I don't know how I did it. I've got suction with it once so I'm curious maybe I'm doing something wrong I will keep trying and let you guys know. The suction on this thing is not strong at all I'm getting a little worried but I read about guys using it with the sleeves so I have hope I will try to find a trick to not lose suction or email [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to see what the deal is because it's so tricky to get a seal unlike the penis master pro which I was wearing hours yesterday.

 

[DLD]

I'm back guys I tried using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with the autoextender sleeves last night. I kept on losing suction with it the times I tried I only got a good seal one time but I don't know how I did it. I've got suction with it once so I'm curious maybe I'm doing something wrong I will keep trying and let you guys know. The suction on this thing is not strong at all I'm getting a little worried but I read about guys using it with the sleeves so I have hope I will try to find a trick to not lose suction or email [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to see what the deal is because it's so tricky to get a seal unlike the penis master pro which I was wearing hours yesterday.

I have heard of men having issues in the beginning stages of learning the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] but they master it through practice. There is a learning curve but according to users it is worth the time and it gets better as you master it. You could also ask [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] directly not the forum, just send Julian a direct PM to the user [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].

 

[truant]

Thanks for the fast reply DLD, yeah I didn't have much time this morning so I didn't really get to experiment with the xsleeves and the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] bell. It has stayed on while I slept and at work already so it's not like I never got to wear the thing so I know its just a matter of playing with it. I will contact them if I can't get it tonight but I think I will get it though because I got suction today it's just the head can't move at all while you roll down the sleeve there has to be an easier way.

I want to really start making gains now Ive been doing on and off pe for aboout 5 years and I feel I have nothin to show for it and I wasted time although I did learn over the years about the devices and stuff but I feel I could ad least had something accomplished like Foreskin restoration or something over those years but not even that and now I'm too focused on enlarging the actual penis. I just see guys in adult entertainment who are naturally big ANd I feel so behind lol

 

[Kaanman]

will start today

 

[truant]

will start today

That's exactly what I'm trying to do. Seeing the big dicks in adult entertainment gives me motivation to start back up again but it still kills me to think those guys can start pe at my goal and be monsterous like 10+ with only a 1 inch gain not to mention the troublesome girth and how hard it is to gain if your not naturally girthy.

Anyway, the good news is I got the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] to stay on with ease after my first try tonight after trying a tip from another forum.

The guy said he used a cotton ball to keep the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] from losing suction. I'm using the smallest size so I couldn't get my head and a whole cotton ball in the bell together so I used a 1/4 of the cotton ball and pulled hard on the handle to see if it worked and it would not come off no matter how hard I pulled.

I'm using it with the soft xsleeve from autoextender and it's really easy and less of a hassle to wear compared to the condoms from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and not to mention cheaper so thanks for that tip that was very helpful because I like the xsleeves from auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] especially the soft ones and it's great to have a use for them so that's a big plus with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] in my opinion.

Now I just need to learn how to tension the belt. I'm using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt as of now but I will be getting the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] belt soon. I'm going to try the tip smerc gave me with the belt right now on the previous page.

The cotton ball idea I think is good because not only does it help keep suction surprisingly well but it also helps protect the tip of the glans from all that suction and is a life savor for guys with sensitive skin like me.