Heya J2L, great to hear that you gained so much... But what I'm aware is, whenever you took a long break, your penis seems to get back to your pre [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] state... So I just would like to ask, is this a permanent gain? What if you take few weeks off? Will it return to the very first state before you use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? To maintain bigger and longer penis, we need to use it everyday for the rest of our life? What about permanent gain?
 
lyk;408548 said:
Heya J2L, great to hear that you gained so much... But what I'm aware is, whenever you took a long break, your penis seems to get back to your pre [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] state... So I just would like to ask, is this a permanent gain? What if you take few weeks off? Will it return to the very first state before you use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? To maintain bigger and longer penis, we need to use it everyday for the rest of our life? What about permanent gain?

When I take a break, pre [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] states just means "not as pumped" as before. When you use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] consistently, you will be larger and fuller most of the time. The gains are permanent. Taking time off is okay, but keeping a consistent routine will help maintain your gains and grow larger. Use it as much or as little as you want. It's like exercise and lifting weights. Use it more, you're buff, stop exercising you'll lose it over time or at least be less than your peak training state. That's what muscle memory is for and you can bulk up again quickly.

Penis Enlargement + [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] = Permanent gains. If you stopped having sex, stopped Penis Enlargement and just never really used your Penis much, I'm sure it would lose some size.
 
lyk;408548 said:
Heya J2L, great to hear that you gained so much... But what I'm aware is, whenever you took a long break, your penis seems to get back to your pre [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] state... So I just would like to ask, is this a permanent gain? What if you take few weeks off? Will it return to the very first state before you use [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? To maintain bigger and longer penis, we need to use it everyday for the rest of our life? What about permanent gain?

When I take a break, pre [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] states just means "not as pumped" as before. When you use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] consistently, you will be larger and fuller most of the time. The gains are permanent. Taking time off is okay, but keeping a consistent routine will help maintain your gains and grow larger. Use it as much or as little as you want. It's like exercise and lifting weights. Use it more, you're buff, stop exercising you'll lose it over time or at least be less than your peak training state. That's what muscle memory is for and you can bulk up again quickly.

Penis Enlargement + [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] = Permanent gains. If you stopped having sex, stopped Penis Enlargement and just never really used your Penis much, I'm sure it would lose some size.
 
Day (65) 2 - 12/11/2010

Warmup: DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Shower
Max Length/Width: 170 / DNC
Supplements: Partial TSPR

I never did too much stretching or any specific routine for Penis Enlargement before so I've decided to start from the basics again. After doing the stretches, I did a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] shower session for 15 minutes pumping to 170 to supplement the Penis Enlargement. That was about it for this session.

Still trying the 1 day on 1 day off which seems to help my EQ more than using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] daily.
 
Day (65) 3 - 12/14/2010

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 700 jelqs + 10 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 181 / DNC
Supplements: Partial TSPR

Great session today. I ate the TSPR supplements (Goji and Cacao Nibs) before doing Penis Enlargement and it really helped with the jelq session by keeping my penis more engorged than usual. I was at 170 for the warmup with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and prefer this to other methods.

Jelq session was very good and so was the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session afterwards. I hit a solid 181 without pumping too hard. My regular max before taking a long break was around 183-184 so I'm glad to see the gains are staying. I'm a couple of days off the 1 day on 1 day off routine as I have too many things preventing me from having a regular Penis Enlargement program.

My goal is to use the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] to try and make some new length gains with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] since it adds a whole new dimension to Penis Enlargement.
 
J1L;408762 said:
Day (65) 3 - 12/14/2010

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 700 jelqs + 10 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 181 / DNC
Supplements: Partial TSPR

Great session today. I ate the TSPR supplements (Goji and Cacao Nibs) before doing Penis Enlargement and it really helped with the jelq session by keeping my penis more engorged than usual. I was at 170 for the warmup with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and prefer this to other methods.

Jelq session was very good and so was the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session afterwards. I hit a solid 181 without pumping too hard. My regular max before taking a long break was around 183-184 so I'm glad to see the gains are staying. I'm a couple of days off the 1 day on 1 day off routine as I have too many things preventing me from having a regular Penis Enlargement program.

My goal is to use the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] to try and make some new length gains with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] since it adds a whole new dimension to Penis Enlargement.

Good news! Do you plan on getting into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters?
 
doublelongdaddy;408818 said:
Good news! Do you plan on getting into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters?

Of course. With this reset of routine and back to the basics, I'm going to work my way back up to them. The stretching, 600 jelqs and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] before and after is taking almost an hour. I can probably shorten the second [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session and do some of the DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters in between before the weekend.
 
Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 600 jelqs + 15 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 181 / DNC
Supplements: Partial TSPR + ROP

I was supposed to take a day off but felt pretty good about doing the routine today. I noticed that during the last 200 jelqs, I wasn't as pumped as the day before which is probably due to slight over training. I probably could have stuck with the warm up, stretches and warm down for my rest day but tried a full routine anyway.

I did the hot water [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm up and managed to hit 180 in the first 2 minutes. Much better than the previous day at 170. Getting back into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] on a regular schedule helps with elasticity. After the 10 minutes I proceeded to do the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] stretches. Not quite at full stretch strength but getting there. The stretches really help with jelqing and pump and coupled with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is very effective. More than before when I did stretches a long time ago without.

The jelq session was good but not as good as yesterday near the end. With the warm down, I hit 180 again though I wasn't sure if I would get there at the start of the warm down. With the increased girth from the session I usually can't hit more than 170-175. Some progress on this front.

I still have pain from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] and the base of my shaft. I've started pushing the release valve underwater and noticed it helps lessen the pain of removing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. It allows for a much slower release and isn't as much of a shock as an out of water release.

I'll probably do the warm up, stretches, and warm down tomorrow and leave the jelqs and DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters for the next session.
 
Good to know the idea about a slower release, this may be the reason a couple guys have been getting irritation at the base.
 
12/19/2010 - Day (65) 5

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 600 jelqs + 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 180 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

Still not able to get consistency in the routine for many reasons. Did the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm up, stretches, jelqs and finishing off with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm down. I hit 170 in the warm up and didn't pump any further. In the warm down I hit 180, but had to pump pretty hard. I'm not sure if it's the lack of consistency, or that I'm using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with a longer routine beforehand but I'm not hitting the numbers I previously could. At 180 the pressure was really strong and it was a good workout. There was some minor fluid retention the next day, but far less than before with the stretching and jelqing beforehand and also considering the strength of the pump.

Not getting as many blisters as before at the base of the penis with the slow release underwater and more frequent use of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

EQ is up and generally my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] is better than before now that I've been taking days off in between sessions. It's more days than I want off. I'll try to change that. Resting is very important and I was probably over training a bit before.
 
Goo to hear everything is going well! Are you jelqing in a separate session than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? Or are you supersetting the jelqs with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]?
 
Really good. I have noticed these little mini plateaus as well when using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], not exclusively to that device of-course but I know what your talking about. Currently hovering on a plateau right now with my maximum length while pumped. I think it would be 6-8 weeks ago I set a new record and since its harder to meet or match. The penis takes its time to adjust and rest as you mention is VITAL, more certainly is not the way unless its done with light intensity.
 
Remember guys, when you are in a plateau it is vital to remain consistent and diligent, this is usually the calm before the storm and the storm could mean big gains.
 
doublelongdaddy;409255 said:
Goo to hear everything is going well! Are you jelqing in a separate session than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? Or are you supersetting the jelqs with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]?

Hi DLD. Superset for the whole routine, one right after the other. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Warmup, your newbie stretch routine, jelqs, then [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm down. The routine usually takes an hour and a bit.
 
REDZULU2003;409296 said:
Really good. I have noticed these little mini plateaus as well when using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], not exclusively to that device of-course but I know what your talking about. Currently hovering on a plateau right now with my maximum length while pumped. I think it would be 6-8 weeks ago I set a new record and since its harder to meet or match. The penis takes its time to adjust and rest as you mention is VITAL, more certainly is not the way unless its done with light intensity.

Maybe it's time to take a 1 week break? I notice that usually helps or change up your routine?
 
12/22/2010 - Day (65) 6

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 600 jelqs + 15min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 5 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 180 / 5.1 / 172
Supplements: Partial TSPR / ROP

It's been several days since my last session. Really need to up the consistency. Today was different and interesting with a very strong pump on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Warm Down session. It's been a while since I used the Partial TSPR supplements (Cacao + Goji) and decided to use it today. I ate a small handful of each and proceeded to do the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Warmup and Jelqs.

I noticed a much fuller girth than usual from the supplements. They really do work and it is VERY helpful for Penis Enlargement for both exercise and recovery. Much better blood flow. I have the supplements about 10-15 minutes before exercising. Worth every penny.

With the warm up I was able to hit 180 easily and was thinking I could do more on the warm down. The strange thing is I didn't. After a very good jelq session, all I could get to was 172 on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I even tried to re-pump but nothing got me any further.

At first I pumped with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] completely suBathmateerged to eliminate any air bubbles. The pump was much stronger than usual because of that. The rest of it I attribute to the increase in girth. I've never felt a pump as strong as tonight with blood rushing everywhere and I could feel the pressure all over my shaft. I highly recommend trying the supplements, great for Penis Enlargement. I also suggest pumping underwater to maximize pump pressure.

I'm starting to fill the base of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] too much now and am starting to think about the bigger model but it's too big for me lengthwise. I still haven't hit/passed the 187 mark yet and the base girth isn't comfortable anymore. I don't think my girth is any larger than average at the bottom of the shaft. It may be some minor FR at the base when pumping causing it to swell.

Very positive session. I wish they were all like this.
 
What I have been suggesting to guys is to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] to warm up and get some good expansion then go into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] erect. It will not help the length issue but it will definitely help pack the tube girth wise.
 
12/25/2010 - Day (65) 7

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 400 jelqs + 13min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 175 / 5.1 / 175
Supplements: Partial TSPR

I performed the usual routine today as I've done for the last several sessions without being able to reach my previous max length 187. This is probably the result of 2 things. My girth is larger now resulting in less length and I'm now using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as a Penis Enlargement tool instead of using it exclusively with no Penis Enlargement.

Out of curiosity, I may try the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at some point again without any Penis Enlargement to see if that is causing the shorter length. I did measurements today since I was curious if I really made any gains and the answer is YES!

Earlier this year I measured and my girth was just under 5". I had been off Penis Enlargement for quite a while and decided to get to an at least average girth of 5.25". This is when I started Penis Enlargement again with jelqing, erect bends, and some advanced girth exercises. Shortly after, I learned about the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and purchased it due to all the good reviews. I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] exclusively and did less Penis Enlargement.

My current girth is 5.5", a +0.5" gain measured not fully erect since using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and doing some Penis Enlargement for approximately 6 months.

My current length is 6.5" up from 6", another +0.5" gain.

A long time ago when I first learned of Penis Enlargement and did routines on and off I was around 5.5" length. Over 10 years I never was able to do a consistent routine (a week here and there if I was lucky) until recently in the last year.

Proof that Penis Enlargement works, and proof that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] works. I never really measure or track my gains closely and it's great to see the results. The next thing to invest in is the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Doing Penis Enlargement and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is a lot of work, and not cementing those gains seems like a bit of a waste.

The theory is sound, if you Penis Enlargement and stretch/enlarge, then use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to engorge and improve bloodflow, why let it go back to pre-exercise state after all that hard work?
 
J1L, Excellent news! I am very proud of you and you should be too:) What a great Christmas present!
 
doublelongdaddy;409614 said:
J1L, Excellent news! I am very proud of you and you should be too:) What a great Christmas present!

Merry Christmas to you as well DLD and thanks again for setting up and maintaining this forum. It's great because you're so involved and an inspiration and constant motivator!
 
J1L;409700 said:
Merry Christmas to you as well DLD and thanks again for setting up and maintaining this forum. It's great because you're so involved and an inspiration and constant motivator!

:)thanks
 
Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 600 jelqs + 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 184 / 5.0
Supplements: Partial TSPR

After the usual session of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Warm Up, DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words], and Warm Down I'm pretty excited to post on a different topics. The session was great with 180 in Warm Up and getting close to my previous max length in the Warm Down. You'll notice from my posts that my post [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] girth changes a lot with +/- 0.2-0.5 here and there.

After months of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] use I've learned a lot and with the latest session and return to Penis Enlargement with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] routines there are some things to point out.

With regard to length, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will definitely help. The key is to pump very aggressively. I've been wondering why I haven't gotten close to my max length with Penis Enlargement and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] thinking it may be due to the increased girth and stronger pump/sensitivity. What I forgot was I used to pump VERY VERY hard but had done less with the new routine. Today I used the ROCKER PUMPS that I used before to reach my near max length again. ROCKER PUMPS are where you fully compress the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at a downward angle, and with the max compression applied and held at the bottom of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words], rock the pump pressure towards the top. This is like a 2 step pump, making sure you compress as much as possible and squeeze out even more of a pump. You can really add to your length this way. With the latest gains on the new routine, I'm almost hitting myself for not doing this earlier as I believe it will lead to massive gains quickly. The ROCKER PUMPS will always squeeze a little more pressure and length.

For girth, my numbers have always fluctuated because of fluid retention. With [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Warm Ups and jelqing/DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters this is eliminated. A lot of people post that their gains are temporary and go away. That's because you're looking at FR even if it's slight. I've had the coke can sized girth, but it was FR, not even a real pump gain. You really need to warm up properly to avoid this as it doesn't really help girth gains. Since I've started proper warm up my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] girth isn't as large as before with some FR but it looks completely different. The skin and feel is completely different too. When exiting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with a proper session, the penis is large, the skin is tight, and the girth is larger but not as large as with FR. You also get a different sensation while in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. It's a tingle or "light pinching" over the entire shaft and head instead of pinching due to FR. It's subtle but noticeable. Overall this has resulted in better girth gains and no more "temporary gains that go away".

It's like when you're working out in the gym and you do a bicep curl. You can do a 40 lb. but your form is off and you're using a lot of muscle to do the rep. It's still a rep, but it's a whole body rep with lots of assistance from your whole arm. If you take 20lb. but focus on using ONLY your bicep, you get a much better direct rep that really targets the muscle. Sure it's not as impressive as the 40lb rep, but over time you will build much more dense muscle and not hit a plateau like you do with the heavy rep. There's a time and a place for the big reps to change up your routine and work different muscles, but you need to focus on the core.

It seems like a lot of extra time, and it is to warm up and minimize FR but if you don't you're wasting time going through the motions and that's even more of a waste of time. Of course these are just my observations and conclusions and I will put them to the test over the next while and post the results.
 
Great post and very observant. It is wiser to work this way but many guys are addicted to the retention and are scared to give it up. This is why, from the start, I promoted [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters, no retention so the temp. girth is no so great but tissue expansion is amazing.
 
doublelongdaddy;409768 said:
Great post and very observant. It is wiser to work this way but many guys are addicted to the retention and are scared to give it up. This is why, from the start, I promoted [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters, no retention so the temp. girth is no so great but tissue expansion is amazing.

Schooled. :)
 
12/27/2010 - Day (65) 9

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 600 jelqs + 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 183 / 5.0
Supplements: Partial TSPR

Getting some consistency in my routine now which is great. I was definitely out of practice and had forgotten things like rocker pumps from not doing Penis Enlargement with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for so long. Only managed to hit 175 on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm up. Not getting really engorged during the jelq session so it might be time for a day off even though I used the Partial TSPR.

With the Warm Down I hit 180 in under a minute and continued to a solid 183. I did get a blister which is an annoyance from the pressure and the base of my shaft against the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. I'm going to try rubbing some vaseline in there for the next session to see if that helps. Does anyone else have some suggestions? I've heard condom, wrapping and other techniques.

Makes me think that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] isn't wide enough at the base considering the length that it can go up to 8+ inches length but only 5.5" girth? I would think 8+ inches would be around 6 - 6.5" girth if you're growing proportionately?

A solid session either way and I'm hoping to get past my max length in the next several weeks with the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] stretches. Still haven't pulled the trigger on getting a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] device yet but will very soon especially with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] discount. It feels like every day I'm not using it is another Penis Enlargement session that isn't all it could be.
 
Hi J1L. Can't quite figure out how to cut and paste a quote here, so I am referring to your third para of Dec 26 "With regard to length,..,,." I would appreciate it if you would try to describe the rocker pump again with different words as I am a little confused. I want to get length. I have girth. I am about to start [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] since I am maxed out on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Herc[/words]. If I start soft in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], will my girth just continue or will it stop after some point and the negative pressure go into length since somewhere it was said that length is not noticed for a few months. If I go into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] relatively hard after hand-stretching in hot water for some 20-30 minutes, will I start to experience length or just bruising? As a plus, I did not notice any FR when only 15 min and going in relatively hard.

If any experts from Bathmate corp are reading this, could they comment please on the advantage/disadvantage of starting relatively hard rather than soft. I get the feeling if I start soft I will only gain girth and I don't want that. I want length.
 
Kimodo;409879 said:
Hi J1L. Can't quite figure out how to cut and paste a quote here, so I am referring to your third para of Dec 26 "With regard to length,..,,." I would appreciate it if you would try to describe the rocker pump again with different words as I am a little confused. I want to get length. I have girth. I am about to start [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] since I am maxed out on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Herc[/words]. If I start soft in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], will my girth just continue or will it stop after some point and the negative pressure go into length since somewhere it was said that length is not noticed for a few months. If I go into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] relatively hard after hand-stretching in hot water for some 20-30 minutes, will I start to experience length or just bruising? As a plus, I did not notice any FR when only 15 min and going in relatively hard.

If any experts from Bathmate corp are reading this, could they comment please on the advantage/disadvantage of starting relatively hard rather than soft. I get the feeling if I start soft I will only gain girth and I don't want that. I want length.

ROCKER PUMP - When pumping the "regular" way, you are just pushing straight down on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] towards your pelvis. This doesn't squeeze every last bit of air or water out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to get the last 5-10% of pressure.

To do this, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] should already be at high pressure/vacuum.
Start by pushing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] towards your pelvis with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pointed down. This isn't a full pump, you're just trying to get an extra 5-10% of pressure.
Once you are sure that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is fully compressed and won't go any further pointing down.
Hold/Keep the pressure on the bottom of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
ROCK or ROLL the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] upwards and compress the top part of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

You should notice some water come out. Not a lot but enough to get you a couple of millimeters if there was any extra room to pump. If it's still too hard to understand, let me know and I'll make a diagram.
 
Not really [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] related, but it was because of this great tool that I've just ordered a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] device which I'll log here for now. My experience so far:

Ordering was easy after following the link from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for the awesome discount. Shipping by UPS and paid $185.25USD. UPS is garbage and usually require a lot of details which I couldn't enter on the order form so I e-mailed customer service instead.

My full address didn't appear correctly on the invoice even though I used their pre-completed pull down tab form on the ordering site so I sent another e-mail to customer service.

"Your billed credit card statement will show: [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]."
I thought this was supposed to be discreet? I don't think the name of the product that can be Googled counts as discreet.

So far the order experience is below expectations compared to ordering a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and my first impressions of the order process is that it could use some improvement.
 
J1L;409922 said:
Not really [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] related, but it was because of this great tool that I've just ordered a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] device which I'll log here for now. My experience so far:

Ordering was easy after following the link from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for the awesome discount. Shipping by UPS and paid $185.25USD. UPS is garbage and usually require a lot of details which I couldn't enter on the order form so I e-mailed customer service instead.

My full address didn't appear correctly on the invoice even though I used their pre-completed pull down tab form on the ordering site so I sent another e-mail to customer service.

"Your billed credit card statement will show: [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]."
I thought this was supposed to be discreet? I don't think the name of the product that can be Googled counts as discreet.

So far the order experience is below expectations compared to ordering a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and my first impressions of the order process is that it could use some improvement.

I will forward this to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words].
 
doublelongdaddy;409999 said:
I will forward this to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words].

Thanks DLD. Looks like my address was correct on their side, it just didn't show up correctly on the e-mailed invoice. Customer service was prompt in replying.
I didn't realize they would be shipping from the UK and are using DHL to deliver the order. If I want to provide additional details for DHL, I'll need to call them and do so.
 
12/29/2010 - Day (65) 10

Warmup: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + Stretches
Session: 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 300 jelqs + 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 300 jelqs + 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 181 / 5.1
Supplements: Partial TSPR

Great session today with some jelq + [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] supersets. The expansion was huge and the pump was incredible. Zero FR.

I never did a session like this before and it is definitely far more effective than a routine without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in the middle. You can feel a difference in the fatigue of the penis after doing a session like this. I entered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] erect on all sessions and it made a huge difference in intensity. The whole routine did take longer than usual but it was worth it after a day of rest.

Since ordering a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], I may separate the stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] use when it arrives. Probably something like 5min-10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], some stretching then use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 4-8 hours, then move on to the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] routine. Not sure if that's possible since it'll take a while to figure out how to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] effectively.

Try supersets with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to break up your regular routine. Very good results.
 
12/30/2010 - Day (65) 11

Warmup: 6min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + Stretches
Session: 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 600 jelqs + 20 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 183 / 5.1
Supplements: Partial TSPR + ROP

It took several days, but I'm now close to my old maximum length! This may not seem like a gain, but with my increase in girth (+0.50") it is. Since starting supersets of Penis Enlargement and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I've notice a huge improvement in EQ and flaccid length and girth.

Today's session started with a shorter [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] warm up where I hit a max of 174. Followed up with the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] stretches. I can use more force, but grip is a minor issue. The stretches help loosen things up a lot and I'll definitely stretch before any Penis Enlargement even if it's not a full routine.

I entered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] flaccid and got a great pump today. With the supersets, you can feel that the penis is more worn out than usual which means better results. I'm confident with this type of routine that the gains will come a lot faster than before.
 
12/31/2010 - Day (65) 12

Warmup: 6min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] Stretches
Session: 300 jelqs + 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 300 jelqs + 20min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 184 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

Had a great session today and reached my previous max length. The supersets are really helping and every session is feeling better with strong pump pressure. Should have done these routines all along as the previous months with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] seem like I didn't maximize the time spent. I managed to hit 180 very easily during the 2nd [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] use but there wasn't as much pressure as usual due to a weak suction. After the 20min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session at the end, I can definitely see the difference with this new routine. No FR and it looks pumped in a different way.

I also received my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] today. 3 days from the UK and had to pay brokerage fees and import tax but the speed of delivery was amazing. Probably because of DHL as UPS is horrible. I had to call DHL to provide my details for delivery. A note for anyone else ordering, if you don't live in a house you need to provide contact details otherwise you'll miss the delivery.

The slip said "Training Materials" and came in a DHL bag. Very discreet. Can't wait to open it up and check it out later.
 
It's not easy spending hard earned money on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. When you look at the cost of the devices themselves, it's not cheap but you can also look at it another way.

Think of it as cost per inch(es). [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is $120+, and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is $150+. If each device promises 3" of growth for a total of 6" the cost would be $280.

Of course these claims are on the very high end so we can be pessimistic and assume they offer 1" of gain each.

$280 (+ minor additional costs) for 2 inches of length on your penis. Sounds like a pretty damn good deal to me. Even $280 for 1 inch sounds like a good deal and that's very realistic and very achievable. Life is made of time, and these products help maximize your time.

At the end of the day, it's only money. You could be spending money on worse things and if you don't grow (which is impossible with dedication and Penis Enlargement) it wasn't that much in the grand scheme of things because you'll probably never spend that money on these products again in your lifetime. That and at least you gave it a shot and the worst you can end up with is where you started.
 
12/1/2010 - Day (65) 13

After [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] / 176
Session: 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 300 jelq + 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 300 jelq + 15min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Water / Bath
Max Length/Width: 180 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

Another good session today and my first day with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] which really helped exercise the penis. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pump pressure feeling is similar to after a very intense jelq session which tells me that it works. The 5min warm up was intense and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pump pressure was almost unbearable at first. I could really feel the blood flowing and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] working. 160 on the warm up with what felt like a lot of pressure even though it probably wasn't.

In the next 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], I easily hit 180 with the last 15 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] working up to 180 again. With the superset Penis Enlargement routine and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], the difference in intensity and effectiveness of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] has gotten even better. The gains should come quicker and I feel like I'm maximizing the time spent on Penis Enlargement.
 
12/2/2010 - Day (65) 14

Before [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] / 174
After [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]: 5min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 600jelq + 20min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Water / Bath
Max Length/Width: 169 / 5.1
Supplements: ROP

I could barely get past 160 on the first pump with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] during the 20min session from using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words]. The pump was more intense than yesterday and I had to re-adjust 10mins in. The problem with readjusting was my girth had expanded so much that upon re pumping I was pinching the base of my penis inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. This was not from fluid retention either and is definitely from using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I don't have money for a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] but that would be the next thing to get. The length is probably way too long, but the girth is probably better. I'm approx 5.5"+ in girth and the pain from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] is getting worse as time goes by.
 
12/4/2010 - Day (65) 15

Session: 10min + 10min
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 170 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

It's been 2 days in a row now and I'm stuck at 170 where I was previously getting to a max length of 184 again. I attribute this to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] since nothing else has changed since then. When I finished the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] use yesterday I was too tired to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] after as I normally do. I also thought the rest may do some good as I had problems with pinching from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] during pumping due to girth.

I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and entered it flaccid hoping it would relieve the pinching problem but it didn't. The pressure is still stronger than before using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], and I could still pump more. The problem is I'm filling up the entire [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] so I can't pump anymore without painful pinching. I guess it's time to save money and buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. Until then I can still use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] but it would be for warm ups and warm downs and not for gains because I can't pump aggressively anymore.
 
J1L;410620 said:
12/4/2010 - Day (65) 15

Session: 10min + 10min
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 170 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

It's been 2 days in a row now and I'm stuck at 170 where I was previously getting to a max length of 184 again. I attribute this to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] since nothing else has changed since then. When I finished the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] use yesterday I was too tired to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] after as I normally do. I also thought the rest may do some good as I had problems with pinching from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] during pumping due to girth.

I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and entered it flaccid hoping it would relieve the pinching problem but it didn't. The pressure is still stronger than before using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], and I could still pump more. The problem is I'm filling up the entire [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] so I can't pump anymore without painful pinching. I guess it's time to save money and buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. Until then I can still use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] but it would be for warm ups and warm downs and not for gains because I can't pump aggressively anymore.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] will give you 8.5" of gator girth...plenty of room even for Redzulu:)
 
12/5/2010 - Day (65) 16

Session: 600jelqs + DLD Slow Squash Jelqs + 20min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length/Width: 173 / 5.0
Supplements: ROP

I finally made it to 173 today before filling up the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] again. The DLD SSQs must have helped reduce some fluid expansion. The initial pump at 160 was more intense as usual since I started using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4 days ago. When you first pump you can really feel a strong tingling sensation all over the penis.

I could definitely have pumped a lot more with a better max length and more pressure but got stuck again. This is frustrating but on the positive side, gains have definitely been made.
 
12/7/2010 - Day (65) 17

Session: [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] 2+ 2 hours, 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Water
Max Length/Width: 170 / DNC
Supplements: MultiVitamins

Used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] about an hour after removing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] device to get some blood flow going and to promote healing. I used the water method (no bath, no shower, just water) and again was stuck at 170 due to the girth constriction in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. I have a feeling this will be the same story until I get a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].

Even without a strong pump the rib marks from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Gaiter[/words] are now very apparent and the pain when releasing the pressure at the base of my penis is really high. I think most people would outgrow the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and should plan on getting a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] in 6 months or so after using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] consistently.

I had [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Gaiter[/words] pain before but it wasn't this bad. With the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] it seems as though my girth went past the threshold literally overnight with 1-2 uses. I was still able to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] up to that point even though it was a bit snug.
 
Sounds like everything is working perfect...too bad the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] does not expand:)
 
12/8/2010 - Day (65) 18

Session: 4hours [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] + 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] + 600 jelqs + 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Water
Max Length: 177 / 170
Supplements: MultiVitamins

After using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to get some blood flow going again. I used additional rods on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and my glands went cold for a bit and I didn't notice. I pumped quickly today and hit 177 after being stuck at 170-173 for a while. After 10 minutes I proceeded to 600 jelqs. The new Penis Enlargement routine is definitely working as my girth is noticeably thicker than before. Another note is the skin wasn't soft and stretchy from using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as it was before. It was similar to a regular erection without using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Looks like the gains are starting to stick.

The next 10 minutes after the jelqs with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] wasn't as good as the first round. I quickly expanded to plug the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] again at 170. I still have [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] pain upon release of the pump pressure. This time I held the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pressed into my pelvis to release the vacuum. There was still pain from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] but not as much as when I just press the valve to release without holding the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Something you might want to try if you're getting some pain in the base of your shaft from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words].

I'll be ordering a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] ASAP to eliminate this problem.
 
12/8/2010 - Day (65) 18

Session: 600 jelqs + 20min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Bath
Max Length: 177 / 150
Supplements: MultiVitamins + ROP

I decided to do some Penis Enlargement first thing in the morning since I had strong erections all night from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. After 600 jelqs I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and was able to pump to 177 before filling the base and not being able to pump anymore. The pressure was okay, not great. At 10 minutes in I decided to re pump and could only get to 150 after filling the base very quickly. The pressure was a lot better due to the girth.

I got some minor blistering from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] and doing some [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches. I'm going to give the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a rest to let the skin heal. I'll keep posting on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] thread and will return to using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] once every several days until I get a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].
 
1213/2010 - Day (65) 20

Session: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Shower
Max Length: 177
Supplements: MultiVitamins

Wrong date and days on the previous post.
I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] today in the shower after a 2 hours [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] session. I was able to reach 177 almost immediately from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching. 10 minutes works well for time as I didn't get as much discomfort from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. I would like to do a full session but I can't pump anymore 7-8 minutes in and with the air escaping slowly it would be a waste of time.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] after using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is effective in helping with gains. I've focused on using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] consistently with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and Penis Enlargement and can see the results over the last couple of weeks. My girth and base girth has increased and it's apparent. Regular condoms are a really tight fit now with the opening leaving a mark on the shaft which didn't happen before.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] are great Penis Enlargement catalysts with gains coming very quickly. Noticeable gains in weeks instead of months.
 
J1L;411819 said:
1213/2010 - Day (65) 20

Session: 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Shower
Max Length: 177
Supplements: MultiVitamins

Wrong date and days on the previous post.
I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] today in the shower after a 2 hours [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] session. I was able to reach 177 almost immediately from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching. 10 minutes works well for time as I didn't get as much discomfort from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words]. I would like to do a full session but I can't pump anymore 7-8 minutes in and with the air escaping slowly it would be a waste of time.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] after using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is effective in helping with gains. I've focused on using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] consistently with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and Penis Enlargement and can see the results over the last couple of weeks. My girth and base girth has increased and it's apparent. Regular condoms are a really tight fit now with the opening leaving a mark on the shaft which didn't happen before.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] are great Penis Enlargement catalysts with gains coming very quickly. Noticeable gains in weeks instead of months.

I only go for 10 minutes per set and then superset with 10 minutes of Slow Sqaush Jelqs and then I repeat this 3 times.
 
How do you get erect for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? Nice thread btw, thoroughly enjoying it.
 
sizerp;411886 said:
How do you get erect for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? Nice thread btw, thoroughly enjoying it.

adult entertainment:) Lots and lots of adult entertainment:)
 
12/14/2010 - Day (65) 21

Session: 3 hours [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] + 700 jelqs + 10min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
Method: Shower
Max Length: 177
Supplements: MultiVitamins + ROP

I wore the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3 hours at 1100g before proceeding to jelq and use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I filled it with warm water and pumped up to 177 again and re-pumped every 3 minutes. At 7 minutes in I had filled the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] again and went for another 3 minutes before removing it. I now hold the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in a pumped position when releasing the air pressure while pointing it downwards. This seems to eliminate most of the discomfort/pain compared to just pressing the release valve and letting it go back to regular length while decompressing.

My penis looks very full after these [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] + [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions without any fluid retention and I'm able to visually notice the gains. The gains really took off with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and manual exercises (not even advanced ones).
 
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