KingCobra;497009 said:
15-08-‘12

Currently, I’m doing 3-4 x 15min. sets of manual stretching each day. I only want length gains and want to direct all focus on that. So, I put the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] away for a while, although it helps with expressive stretching.
My BPFSL was 21,7cm on 01-08-‘12. I notice soreness on the entire base of my penis. My flaccid dick feels very jelly-like and it feels like I’m gaining.
I should concentrate now on consistency and try not to lose this pace.


That jelly flaccid feel is exactly how I feel when I am in length gaining mode. I think some refer to it as a hard flaccid penis, either way, the change lets me know I am in gaining mode.
 
I still question myself about putting away the BathmateG.
I only stretch my penis, I don't do girth work. So, the BathmateG should have'more length to fill'.
DLD, do you think that the BathmateG will hinder my length gains?

Which routine would give has more length potential?
1. Manual stretching and hanging.
2. Manual stretching, hanging and BathmateG.
 
KingCobra;497508 said:
I still question myself about putting away the BathmateG.
I only stretch my penis, I don't do girth work. So, the BathmateG should have'more length to fill'.
DLD, do you think that the BathmateG will hinder my length gains?

Which routine would give has more length potential?
1. Manual stretching and hanging.
2. Manual stretching, hanging and BathmateG.


I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is an important part of gaining length in the sense that it greatly expands the tunica, allowing for length gains there. It can also be used to do Hardcore Stretching which is another incredible stretch for length. I would use it if you have it.
 
doublelongdaddy;497659 said:
I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is an important part of gaining length in the sense that it greatly expands the tunica, allowing for length gains there. It can also be used to do Hardcore Stretching which is another incredible stretch for length. I would use it if you have it.

Thanks for the reply.
I will start using it again for a few days in a week at the end of my workout. I just can't stretch or hang after I pumped.
My roommate is on a holiday and can experiment again with hanging. I have a LOT of 6, but I still hang BTC with 2,5kg. I will switch over to tunica hanging in time, it could be more effective for me.

I try to get 2 sets of 15 min. manual stretching and 2 sets of 15 min. hanging in each day. Now also 1-2 days BathmateG.
BPFSL of 20-08-'12 is 22.0cm! I'm growing in BPFSL. BPenis EnlargementL will eventually come rofl
 
KingCobra;497761 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I will start using it again for a few days in a week at the end of my workout. I just can't stretch or hang after I pumped.
My roommate is on a holiday and can experiment again with hanging. I have a LOT of 6, but I still hang BTC with 2,5kg. I will switch over to tunica hanging in time, it could be more effective for me.

I try to get 2 sets of 15 min. manual stretching and 2 sets of 15 min. hanging in each day. Now also 1-2 days BathmateG.
BPFSL of 20-08-'12 is 22.0cm! I'm growing in BPFSL. BPenis EnlargementL will eventually come rofl


Sounds good, thanks for taking my advice!
 
I've asked a lot of guys who hang about that LOT theory and they say they ignore it and hang straight down anyways.
I have a LOT of 6 oclock as well, but hopefully I can gain from hanging straight down.
 
MikeShlort;497929 said:
I've asked a lot of guys who hang about that LOT theory and they say they ignore it and hang straight down anyways.
I have a LOT of 6 oclock as well, but hopefully I can gain from hanging straight down.

I want to test whether or not I will gain with BTC with my LOT 6... I really got a LOT 6, not 7 or 6:30; LOT 6 like in 666 no gains from BTC :P.

I'm doing only BTC with 2.5kg (5.5lbs). Building up a hanging/manual stretching routine with a little touch of BathmateG.
Currently hanging 2 sets per day, build it up to 4 sets and after that increase weight gradually with 0,5kg to max10kg(22lbs). The more gains with less weight, the better! I want to test this thoroughly before switching over to tunica hanging.
 
22-08-‘12

Yesterday I tried hanging with only theraband… I got some skin positioned badly in between the wrapping and it hurt like a mofo.
Skin is sore as hell, never going to try that again. I’m giving my skin some rest and applied some lotion for faster recovery. Only manuals for today.
 
You got to be careful when using theraban that it is smooth and without wrinkles, also make sure the skin under the wrap is smooth and without creases. Takes some practice to master.
 
28-08-‘12

I increased the weight on my hanger to 3,0kg and planning to stick with this for a few weeks.
Still hanging exclusively btc. I do feel it in my ligs.

Hanging is taking over my manual excises. I caught myself doing less manuals and more hanging.
I decided to do manual stretching in between my hanging sets. This is to increase blood flow, while keeping the penis in a stretched state.

How many set should I aim for per day and hours per week?
I am going to gain with BTC hanging with a LOT of 6?
And should I mix in some tunica hanging sets, considering my LOT?
 
KingCobra;499058 said:
How many set should I aim for per day and hours per week?
I am going to gain with BTC hanging with a LOT of 6?
And should I mix in some tunica hanging sets, considering my LOT?


I would shoot for 3 hours a day if you are going with hanging alone. I think you would be smart to keep doing the manual work in between each hanging set. I would not worry about LOT as you are training BTC, you are hitting the ligaments at their most extreme angle. As far as the Tunica goes I would include either some upward stretches, hanging OTS or some erect girth work.
 
doublelongdaddy;499099 said:
I would shoot for 3 hours a day if you are going with hanging alone. I think you would be smart to keep doing the manual work in between each hanging set. I would not worry about LOT as you are training BTC, you are hitting the ligaments at their most extreme angle. As far as the Tunica goes I would include either some upward stretches, hanging OTS or some erect girth work.

As in like 9 sets of 20 minutes hanging?
 
doublelongdaddy;499099 said:
I would shoot for 3 hours a day if you are going with hanging alone. I think you would be smart to keep doing the manual work in between each hanging set. I would not worry about LOT as you are training BTC, you are hitting the ligaments at their most extreme angle. As far as the Tunica goes I would include either some upward stretches, hanging OTS or some erect girth work.

Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
Wow, 9 sets of 20min would be too much for me. I rather keep the manuals in between and mix in some tunica(OTS) hanging sets.
I'm quite curious to try hanging OTS :s. I will start at 1,5kg(3.3lbs)
 
KingCobra;499258 said:
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
Wow, 9 sets of 20min would be too much for me. I rather keep the manuals in between and mix in some tunica(OTS) hanging sets.
I'm quite curious to try hanging OTS :s. I will start at 1,5kg(3.3lbs)


Hanging requires lots of time, that was the drawback for me. When I was hanging I was doing 6-8 hours a day!
 
doublelongdaddy;499302 said:
Hanging requires lots of time, that was the drawback for me. When I was hanging I was doing 6-8 hours a day!

How much did you gain from hanging and how far into your Penis Enlargement career was it?
 
Guys,

I will try my best to explain this concept of LOT that baffles all of you. I hope you read this and try to understand it, because it is very useful to know if you're a Penis Enlargement'er.

The LOT test is a measure of how much potential you have for gains from lig stretch; 12:00 is the highest, and has the most potential, and 6:00 is the lowest, almost no potential. For most men, their penis exits their body at the front face of the pubic bone, held up by the suspensory ligaments. The goal of hanging BTC is to lengthen those suspensory ligaments so that the shaft exit point relocates BELOW the pubic bone, as opposed to at the front face of it. In other words, you want your ligs long enough so that your penis hangs literally between your legs when flaccid. Most guys are not born this way, so if you do not want your ligs to take the stress while you are doing manual stretching, extending, hanging, whatever, you need to get them LONG ENOUGH. The longer your ligs are, the more effectively you will stretch the tunica (inner AND outer), because the ligs will be TOO LONG to take any significant stress from tunica work by manual exercises, extending, hanging, etc. That is the whole point of LOT! So yes, knowing your geometry is very important, because it will tell you which tissues you should be attempting to deform. If your LOT is a true 6:00, that means that your shaft exit point is literally hanging between your legs, like SWM's in the "Bib How To" video. Trying to deform everything at the same time, skin, ligs, tunica, septum, etc, is very inefficient, and would require many times more stress at any given time; therefore gains would come much, much slower that way. Stretch out those ligs FIRST, and THEN attack everything else.

So that is basically what LOT theory is. The higher your shaft exit point is from the bottom of your pubic bone, the more inner penis you have to pull out and down, turning it into outer penis, and the higher your LOT would be. As LOT decreases, shaft exit point also decreases; as the ligs get longer, the shaft exit point gets closer and closer to the bottom of the pubic bone. By the way, your LOT is when you first SEE a REDUCTION in tugback. It is not when you see the tugback stop. When the tugback begins to LESSEN, that is your LOT.

If your LOT is above 6:00, then you should focus on lig stretch, hanging BTC and SD, until you get your LOT to 6:00, or very close to it. If it is already 6:00, then you can start doing upper angle work, such as OTS, SO, OTL, and RSDT, to make tunica gains (inner and outer). Now, some guys do not believe in doing upper angle work after fully stretching out their ligs. In theory, one can still continue to make gains hanging at the lower angles, but it would require more and more weight as the ligs would still take some stress hanging BTC. I'm not one of those guys that wants to hang 50+ lbs to keep making gains if there are other ways of doing it more efficiently, such as hanging lower weights at the upper angles.

So there you have it. I hope that made sense, and I hope you guys can see that it is indeed very useful.
 
Guys,

I will try my best to explain this concept of LOT that baffles all of you. I hope you read this and try to understand it, because it is very useful to know if you're a Penis Enlargement'er.

The LOT test is a measure of how much potential you have for gains from lig stretch; 12:00 is the highest, and has the most potential, and 6:00 is the lowest, almost no potential. For most men, their penis exits their body at the front face of the pubic bone, held up by the suspensory ligaments. The goal of hanging BTC is to lengthen those suspensory ligaments so that the shaft exit point relocates BELOW the pubic bone, as opposed to at the front face of it. In other words, you want your ligs long enough so that your penis hangs literally between your legs when flaccid. Most guys are not born this way, so if you do not want your ligs to take the stress while you are doing manual stretching, extending, hanging, whatever, you need to get them LONG ENOUGH. The longer your ligs are, the more effectively you will stretch the tunica (inner AND outer), because the ligs will be TOO LONG to take any significant stress from tunica work by manual exercises, extending, hanging, etc. That is the whole point of LOT! So yes, knowing your geometry is very important, because it will tell you which tissues you should be attempting to deform. If your LOT is a true 6:00, that means that your shaft exit point is literally hanging between your legs, like SWM's in the "Bib How To" video. Trying to deform everything at the same time, skin, ligs, tunica, septum, etc, is very inefficient, and would require many times more stress at any given time; therefore gains would come much, much slower that way. Stretch out those ligs FIRST, and THEN attack everything else.

So that is basically what LOT theory is. The higher your shaft exit point is from the bottom of your pubic bone, the more inner penis you have to pull out and down, turning it into outer penis, and the higher your LOT would be. As LOT decreases, shaft exit point also decreases; as the ligs get longer, the shaft exit point gets closer and closer to the bottom of the pubic bone. By the way, your LOT is when you first SEE a REDUCTION in tugback. It is not when you see the tugback stop. When the tugback begins to LESSEN, that is your LOT.

If your LOT is above 6:00, then you should focus on lig stretch, hanging BTC and SD, until you get your LOT to 6:00, or very close to it. If it is already 6:00, then you can start doing upper angle work, such as OTS, SO, OTL, and RSDT, to make tunica gains (inner and outer). Now, some guys do not believe in doing upper angle work after fully stretching out their ligs. In theory, one can still continue to make gains hanging at the lower angles, but it would require more and more weight as the ligs would still take some stress hanging BTC. I'm not one of those guys that wants to hang 50+ lbs to keep making gains if there are other ways of doing it more efficiently, such as hanging lower weights at the upper angles.

So there you have it. I hope that made sense, and I hope you guys can see that it is indeed very useful.
 
cg1;499422 said:
Guys,

I will try my best to explain this concept of LOT that baffles all of you. I hope you read this and try to understand it, because it is very useful to know if you're a Penis Enlargement'er.

The LOT test is a measure of how much potential you have for gains from lig stretch; 12:00 is the highest, and has the most potential, and 6:00 is the lowest, almost no potential. For most men, their penis exits their body at the front face of the pubic bone, held up by the suspensory ligaments. The goal of hanging BTC is to lengthen those suspensory ligaments so that the shaft exit point relocates BELOW the pubic bone, as opposed to at the front face of it. In other words, you want your ligs long enough so that your penis hangs literally between your legs when flaccid. Most guys are not born this way, so if you do not want your ligs to take the stress while you are doing manual stretching, extending, hanging, whatever, you need to get them LONG ENOUGH. The longer your ligs are, the more effectively you will stretch the tunica (inner AND outer), because the ligs will be TOO LONG to take any significant stress from tunica work by manual exercises, extending, hanging, etc. That is the whole point of LOT! So yes, knowing your geometry is very important, because it will tell you which tissues you should be attempting to deform. If your LOT is a true 6:00, that means that your shaft exit point is literally hanging between your legs, like SWM's in the "Bib How To" video. Trying to deform everything at the same time, skin, ligs, tunica, septum, etc, is very inefficient, and would require many times more stress at any given time; therefore gains would come much, much slower that way. Stretch out those ligs FIRST, and THEN attack everything else.

So that is basically what LOT theory is. The higher your shaft exit point is from the bottom of your pubic bone, the more inner penis you have to pull out and down, turning it into outer penis, and the higher your LOT would be. As LOT decreases, shaft exit point also decreases; as the ligs get longer, the shaft exit point gets closer and closer to the bottom of the pubic bone. By the way, your LOT is when you first SEE a REDUCTION in tugback. It is not when you see the tugback stop. When the tugback begins to LESSEN, that is your LOT.

If your LOT is above 6:00, then you should focus on lig stretch, hanging BTC and SD, until you get your LOT to 6:00, or very close to it. If it is already 6:00, then you can start doing upper angle work, such as OTS, SO, OTL, and RSDT, to make tunica gains (inner and outer). Now, some guys do not believe in doing upper angle work after fully stretching out their ligs. In theory, one can still continue to make gains hanging at the lower angles, but it would require more and more weight as the ligs would still take some stress hanging BTC. I'm not one of those guys that wants to hang 50+ lbs to keep making gains if there are other ways of doing it more efficiently, such as hanging lower weights at the upper angles.

So there you have it. I hope that made sense, and I hope you guys can see that it is indeed very useful.

Thank you for the useful information!
I have a LOT of 6. I already gained 1.8" in length.
I will do OTS and some BTC hanging, combined with manuals and BathmateG on occasion.
 
05-09-‘12

I realized I wasn’t hanging on the correct way. I should have created an attachment point on my penis. This would be more beneficial for higher weights later on. So I went back to 1,5kg BTC.
The hanger is no longer close to my glans and I will condition my soft tissues, while increase the weight slowly.
My penis doesn’t twist much in SD compared to BTC.
BTW. Isn’t the tunica automatically targeted in BTC or SD when the ligs are not the limited factor. Less stress on the ligs, means more stress on the tunica, am I correct?????

Had a nice BathmateG session yesterday with good suction. I use the BathmateG every other day or a day after that. I only do it evening, otherwise I screws up my length routine.

The compressed [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] makes the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words](G) better suited for length than a conventional pump. It has a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] that decompresses during the session, pulling the inner penis out and not simply filling up the tunica.
 
KingCobra;501696 said:
BTW. Isn’t the tunica automatically targeted in BTC or SD when the ligs are not the limited factor. Less stress on the ligs, means more stress on the tunica, am I correct?????


Upward stretches focus on Tunica while lower stretches (straight down, behind the cheeks) focus on ligament growth. When you are stretching upward the ligs are not really being stretched at all, your are mostly stretching for the tunica.
 
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