Supra;501797 said:
PMP was a good idea in theory but flawed. It not only causes desisitation of the glands and fluid buildup but also causes your head to tun different colors..I had to deal with a white penis head for 3 months and a serious amount of pumping and use of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to get the color back to the way it supposed to be, light pink or red..IMO fck the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. THe [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is 10 times cheaper and just as effective without any side effects..

Not only does it work but it restores sensitivity to a desensitized head, keeps its color and protects the penis..The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] does none of these.

Maybe you were wearing it too long. I only use it 1-1 1/2 hours at a time and massage my head and put back on. Never had my head change in color since using it.

Penis Enlargement devices are so weird as has been discussed. Its really trial and error until you find what works for yourself. I could NOT get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] to work for me at all. I tried 3 different sizes with every different way of putting it on and I hated it comfort wise.
 
n8dogg;502440 said:
Its really trial and error until you find what works for yourself.

That is it in a nutshell! There are many methods now to attach the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] and there will be something for everyone that will work. Back in the day we had the noose to use and that was Hell! The comfort strap was not much better. Thank God, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] listens to use and came with the 16 way system. That, with the velcro mod, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], and every other modification that has come forth really makes Extending possible for everyone.
 
What happened to this thread? There used to be so much excitement about the pro and it seems to have died off. I'm still using mine and I'm pretty happy so far. I'm not sure about real gains as of yet since I haven't measured. But I've recently begun to feel my penis hit my thigh and I love the feeling.
If anyone is still using this thing and has anything to share, please do. It would be nice to hear what people are experiencing with this. Was it just a fad that has seen its end?
 
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CaptainCaveman;504056 said:
What happened to this thread? There used to be so much excitement about the pro and it seems to have died off. I'm still using mine and I'm pretty happy so far. I'm not sure about real gains as of yet since I haven't measured. But I've recently begun to feel my penis hit my thigh and I love the feeling.
If anyone is still using this thing and has anything to share, please do. It would be nice to hear what people are experiencing with this. Was it just a fad that has seen its end?


That is how threads go, they are popular and then they fade, only to be brought back again. [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] users need to create the support and post their progress on the device to keep it in the limelight.
 
MikeShlort;504065 said:
I wouldn't call it a fad. It's a great device, it's so comfortable and painless.


I also think, once I shoot the video, it will pick up more too.
 
doublelongdaddy;504057 said:
That is how threads go, they are popular and then they fade, only to be brought back again. [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] users need to create the support and post their progress on the device to keep it in the limelight.

I'm all for sharing progress and support. It would be great if this thread would evolve to include real life accounts of actual progress or lack there of. If the video could encourage more dialogue, then I look forward to it.
 
It's no different from any other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], just has a more comfortable head piece. I don't see how there would be much more significant gains than any other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Maybe because it grips just the head it gives a bit of a different stretch, but I think it's all the same shit. If you are an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] user and don't like the discomfort strap, then the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] head attachment is a great idea.
 
I slowed done on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] glan chamber as i may have pushed the limits to far causing slight bleeding but using velcro again for now but guts take it east if your dick is stretch tense like a rubber band with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] kit then you are possible stretching to fat and you won't notice it because its comfy.
 
So I've been eyeballing the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] complete kit for some time now, and I'm curious if any of you guys know whether or not it comes with the strap attachment that's on the basic [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] along with the glan vacuum attachment, or is it only the vacuum attachment?
 
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Hey guys ,

Its been awhile since posting in this thread.

I have had several injuries to my body and 2 infections to my urethra /testicle infection over the past several months.
Needless to say Penis Enlargement has not been my main priority.

If anyone is using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] or [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] make sure you are cleaning it every time you reapply it.This is where my infections came from .
The latest is a testicle infection which has been the most painful experience of my life.I don't wish anyone to experience the same and is my only reason for posting the incident.

Back to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] .When I used them(and plan to use them again when things get better) I gained 3/8" erect length and some thickness as well but not measured,in 2 months of using it 6 to 8 hours a day with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and about 6 hours a day at work with the elastic strap.

The vacuum chamber DOES create small amount of fluid retention in the glans which disappears within 20 minutes of taking it off.It also ,under higher tensions creates a redness to the glans from the stress of being in a vacuum for all that time .The redness also disappears the next day if not using it that day.So no long term side effects and no permanent discoloration.

It is the most comfortable device I have used for attaching to an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and gives the best stretch but that is my opinion.That is based on using the comfort strap initially and then going to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for attaching which I used for 5 months at about 6 to 8 hours a day. I did not gain any erect length or girth from that 5 months of use and was about to toss the towel on my Penis Enlargement but there were some awesome brothers here who encouraged me to keep going and try something else which turned out to be the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words].

The results were incredible and I can't wait to get back to it to continue to my goal of 8" x 6" . I am almost there !!
I started including manuals before my setbacks in order to speed up the gains.So anyone starting out or already using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/PMP I would strongly encourage you to start manual stretching to help you reach your goals and pretty well guarantee your success.

Thanks to everyone who contributed in a positive way to this thread and my journey here .

PS ...Fonic if you are out there lurking -really miss you brother and hope you are well!!


CaptainCaveman;504056 said:
What happened to this thread? There used to be so much excitement about the pro and it seems to have died off. I'm still using mine and I'm pretty happy so far. I'm not sure about real gains as of yet since I haven't measured. But I've recently begun to feel my penis hit my thigh and I love the feeling.
If anyone is still using this thing and has anything to share, please do. It would be nice to hear what people are experiencing with this. Was it just a fad that has seen its end?
 
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Dickleaker;504269 said:
I have had several injuries to my body and 2 infections to my urethra /testicle infection over the past several months.
Needless to say Penis Enlargement has not been my main priority.

If anyone is using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] or [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] make sure you are cleaning it every time you reapply it.This is where my infections came from .
The latest is a testicle infection which has been the most painful experience of my life.I don't wish anyone to experience the same and is my only reason for posting the incident.


That is terrible! How did the infection happen? Are you on antibiotics?
 
I agree it was terrible as far as the pain level DLD.Luckily no permanent damage after checking on an ultrasound.

Infection happened from bacteria on my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ,went down my urethra to my right testicle.Yes I am on 2 antibiotics .Thank God and the doctor who correctly diagnosed the situation.I was near passing out from the pain :(((

best to you!


doublelongdaddy;504280 said:
That is terrible! How did the infection happen? Are you on antibiotics?
 
Why don't you try hanging once you start healing dickleaker? From what I understand, it is the logical progression from manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words].
 
Hey Mike ,
Thanks for the suggestion!
I have picked the ways I Penis Enlargement for their ability to get gains without discoloration.It is the main reason why I stopped using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
I think your suggestion is right on and will probably progress to hanging if I can do it without permanent discoloration AND when my gains have stopped from what I discovered so far that has worked for me .I think if you find a method of Penis Enlargement that gives you gains ,you should stick to it until it doesn't anymore and ride that wave ;)

Here's what works for me :
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] /extender for as many hours of day as possible
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]/elastic strap for the remaining hours when you can't wear an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

couple sessions of manual stretching each day

at very end of day 15 minutes of erect jelqing...my fav thing to do-I guess because it is so close to jerking off AND by the end of 15 minutes you can see temp gains in length and girth from it

Hanging is where Fonic (dude who started this thread ) was headed the last time we spoke.

How is your dick work going? you happy with it ? Any results yet?

best to you bro!

MikeShlort;504284 said:
Why don't you try hanging once you start healing dickleaker? From what I understand, it is the logical progression from manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words].
 
Ya what I meant is progress to hanging once the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] gains and manuals dry up. You should still do extending and manual work while hanging though. I've only done a bit of hanging work, but I found that doing a 15 min manual stretch session makes the penis really nice and loose before a hanging session.

I'm actually becoming very happy with my penis (I am at the moment, that is). I bounce back quicker after ejaculation, get way better erections, I have gained some length, and even more girth. I've also increased my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] from the knowledge I have gained plus edging.

I am finding it difficult to gain length like other people have, though. It seems very difficult for me and I really have to stay on it for it to progress. Very, very slow. My focus now is length, no girth. I do light jelqing here and there just for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and it also gets me in the jelly state at times before a stretch session.

I had progressed to hanging, but then injured myself by tightening the bib too tight. I had to take nearly 2 weeks off from Penis Enlargement. I am starting back light with manuals, then will add [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again as well. I will hang again in the future, but for now I am going to try to see if I can gain with just manuals and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

Check my progress thread to see what I'm up to if you feel like it. I update it daily.
 
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Ok ,got you!

So add it in if the gains slow down ? That is a good idea!!I am only short distance away from my goal of 8x6 so I don't know if I will go further or not.i am pretty happy with my size now as well so that little bit more should put me in the totally happy category!


Check out Savage's routine ...he got all his length from jelqing only.
Also I know you use the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] ...when you are not in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] ,try the elastic strap from [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].com

http://tlctugger.com/prodTLC.htm#straps

with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words].its the extra boost that got me my big length gains recently.

all the best to you man!

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?58319-Sav-s-quest-%96-only-jelqing



MikeShlort;504306 said:
Ya what I meant is progress to hanging once the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] gains and manuals dry up. You should still do extending and manual work while hanging though. I've only done a bit of hanging work, but I found that doing a 15 min manual stretch session makes the penis really nice and loose before a hanging session.

I'm actually becoming very happy with my penis (I am at the moment, that is). I bounce back quicker after ejaculation, get way better erections, I have gained some length, and even more girth. I've also increased my [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] from the knowledge I have gained plus edging.

I am finding it difficult to gain length like other people have, though. It seems very difficult for me and I really have to stay on it for it to progress. Very, very slow. My focus now is length, no girth. I do light jelqing here and there just for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and it also gets me in the jelly state at times before a stretch session.

I had progressed to hanging, but then injured myself by tightening the bib too tight. I had to take nearly 2 weeks off from Penis Enlargement. I am starting back light with manuals, then will add [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again as well. I will hang again in the future, but for now I am going to try to see if I can gain with just manuals and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

Check my progress thread to see what I'm up to if you feel like it. I update it daily.
 
Dickleaker;504281 said:
I agree it was terrible as far as the pain level DLD.Luckily no permanent damage after checking on an ultrasound.

Infection happened from bacteria on my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ,went down my urethra to my right testicle.Yes I am on 2 antibiotics .Thank God and the doctor who correctly diagnosed the situation.I was near passing out from the pain :(((

best to you!


Thanks for posting and allowing men know that they NEED to clean their equipment. I am guilty of no doing this, thinking, it's only me, it doesn't matter" but it does! Wash your equipment men!
 
Agreed! DickLeaker, thanks for putting your experience out there. Good reminder for me to clean out my diaphragm and sleuce. Was getting a bit lazy with it. Hopefully you will get back into your routine soon and we get to hear from you some more over here. Your reflections and suggestions are welcome.
As for me, still haven't measured but I just extended the length of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by a half inch or so and that makes me sooooooo happy. Signs of progress are amazingly cool. And now I can do walking fowfers without any issues. I think my flaccid stretched length may be greater and that's what's allowing me to walk while doing fowfers. I can't belive this is actually happening.
I read a quote recently that I really liked. It went "success is going from one failure to the next without losing any enthusiasm."
Persevere fellas!
 
Wouldn't wish this to happen to you DLD or anyone else, so I recommend you be strict about it from now on cause it could happen to anyone here and I can tell you it was the most painful thing in my life so its a warning to help others avoid this situation.
doublelongdaddy;504340 said:
Thanks for posting and allowing men know that they NEED to clean their equipment. I am guilty of no doing this, thinking, it's only me, it doesn't matter" but it does! Wash your equipment men!
 
Hey CC,

No problem man ...here to help in the good times and the not so good if it helps anyone else ,it helps me !

Thanks for the thoughts on getting back :)

Sounds like you are gaining if you are adding bars .1/2" new ones is amazing progress.Keep it up and your cock will have that in new erect length!!
I have no doubt ...I hope you feel the same!

Success for us here is knowing that we are gaining even when there are no obvious signs on the measure tape ...one day all of a sudden they are there and exactly because of that quote ! Good one!



CaptainCaveman;504372 said:
Agreed! DickLeaker, thanks for putting your experience out there. Good reminder for me to clean out my diaphragm and sleuce. Was getting a bit lazy with it. Hopefully you will get back into your routine soon and we get to hear from you some more over here. Your reflections and suggestions are welcome.
As for me, still haven't measured but I just extended the length of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by a half inch or so and that makes me sooooooo happy. Signs of progress are amazingly cool. And now I can do walking fowfers without any issues. I think my flaccid stretched length may be greater and that's what's allowing me to walk while doing fowfers. I can't belive this is actually happening.
I read a quote recently that I really liked. It went "success is going from one failure to the next without losing any enthusiasm."
Persevere fellas!
 
Dickleaker;504378 said:
Wouldn't wish this to happen to you DLD or anyone else, so I recommend you be strict about it from now on cause it could happen to anyone here and I can tell you it was the most painful thing in my life so its a warning to help others avoid this situation.


I am EXTREMELY ocd about cleanliness but I do sometimes skin cleaning personal items under a false justification that it does not matter, because it is me....bad way to see it...bacteria can grow in a single person situation just as quickly as it can in a multi-person situation. I have never suffered the ill effects of my negligence, as you have, but it is enough to remind me to keep my work ares CLEAN!
 
I still cannot keep my glands from losing color..I have had to stop using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and go back the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]
 
I also experience the whitening of the glans unfortunately and its not pretty. I found that I don't need to use as much vacuum when I use the large sleuce and that may have helped some with the discoloration. Thinking of switching back and forth from my x4 to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] to avoid too much of a rainbow effect...until I find some other solution.
 
Supra;505761 said:
I still cannot keep my glands from losing color..I have had to stop using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and go back the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]


But doesn't the color return? Or are we talking about permanent discoloration, if so, please someone post a picture as I have never seen discoloration work this way. Thanks guys.
 
Supra;505761 said:
I still cannot keep my glands from losing color..I have had to stop using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and go back the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]

How much lube are you using supra? If I use too much, i need more vacuum to get a proper pull resulting in irritation on the glans after an hour.. I always use as little as possible. Sometimes none actually, because if I have cleaned everything before my last session, there are still plenty of lube inside the sluice, and I know it is only 24h old max. It usually takes longer to get settled inside the sluice doing this. Sometimes a minute or 2, but i can literally stretch All night long. If it weren't for my spontanious teen-like erections i get when wearing it during sleep, i Would be able to stretch at least 7 hours a day.

Unfortunately I just got a roomie because of financial problems, so I have to back Down from using the stretcher for a while. Hopefully she can remember me when i use her again :/
 
When I exit the chamber, my glans is light pink, borderline white. I do a few "helicopter shakes" to restore color, which returns in a handful of seconds.

I've no idea what color my glans is while it is inside the chamber, either. The exit process causes an enlarged glans to have to squeeze back through the Sluice, and I think that contributes to the lack of color phenomena.
As I have a bag of the larger diameter sluices, I might see if there is any difference in color, if I use them.
 
Dangler;505870 said:
When I exit the chamber, my glans is light pink, borderline white. I do a few "helicopter shakes" to restore color, which returns in a handful of seconds.

I've no idea what color my glans is while it is inside the chamber, either. The exit process causes an enlarged glans to have to squeeze back through the Sluice, and I think that contributes to the lack of color phenomena.
As I have a bag of the larger diameter sluices, I might see if there is any difference in color, if I use them.


Thats what I was thinking too, mean I know what the white thing is, but it is an extremely temporary state, it is nothing like discoloration or am I missing something?
 
So what is this white discoloration? Has anyone had permanent discoloration from that end of the spectrum? I ask because the same mechanism that would cause a lightening of the skin could be studied in reverse for the correction of discoloration from the other end of the spectrum. My curiosity is peaked as I am working so closely on this new method/device and my ears perk up to everything that has to do with color....I guess I am a Penis Enlargement Racist:)
 
I have developed a whitish hue on a pea sized part of my glans. It is definitely different than the whitish color that the glans has when it first comes out of the sleuce because it lasts. I don't like it but I'm not willing to stop using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]. Maybe I'll alternate between the x4 and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] to see if I notice a significant difference.
 
CaptainCaveman;506067 said:
I have developed a whitish hue on a pea sized part of my glans. It is definitely different than the whitish color that the glans has when it first comes out of the sleuce because it lasts. I don't like it but I'm not willing to stop using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]. Maybe I'll alternate between the x4 and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] to see if I notice a significant difference.

And this has remained permanent? I mean, damn, I wish I knew how you did it and I wish even more I knew how to make it happen to the entire shaft! This, would be a definite cure for dark discoloration. After all the abuse I have put my guy through you would think I was marked up like a $2 meth whore, but I truly have perfect pigment. I have 3 permanent changes, a bruise-like, about the size of a lima bean, mid-shaft. In early pictures of my penis, this mark was there, I sometimes believe this was here pre-Penis Enlargement. I have a long stretch mark, about 4.5" long, beginning at my scrotum base and runs up the belly of my shaft...ironically this scar measures almost identical to my length gains (documented by Channel4 and Salon Magazine). Lastly, I tore my frenulum. This did NOT happen because of Penis Enlargement, it happened due to obsessive measuring.

If anyone saw early pictures of me you will see the famous broken ruler, the culprit of the frenulum accident, it actually broke the ruler and ripped the frenulum off...this is what you get for "over doing" the bone pressed measurement. The ruler, that I thought held magical powers, because it was the ruler I gained my first 2" with, it is the one the severed me, I taped it back together. There was an uprise that my pictures were fakes because of the poorly taped ruler. When I can out with my next photo I not only showed that my ruler was real, i realized it was real short! My new, metal ruler, which could not be faked, replaced the "broken ruler" and the hungry wolves were soon humbled by an indisputable photos that showed an even bigger measurement!

There is no feeling better then winning.
 
and with that said, I was fashionably early with the Frenulum modification:) Yes, completely by accident, back than whole "Frenulum Tying" had not happened on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] yet. I was in misery but when I returned to Penis Enlargement with an instant 1/4" gain everyone was asking how the heck you can loose the frenulum. I always cringed at the idea, even when it started to become popular, but soon I was humbled by the surgical expertise a few determined men...completely floored...This is some pretty advanced stuff!
 
Yes DLD, it seems to be permanent. Although I am not sure how laying off the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] will effect it. Will keep you posted on that. In the meanwhile, I believe it has something to do with the suction of the device. But the science is by no means exact because I am not sure why the discoloration is limited to one area without effecting any other part of my glans.
 
Smartie;467865 said:
So their upgrade kit doesn't work with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words]?

It seems an arbitrary restriction just creating a system with different rod diameter than everybody else just to increase sales >:(
Are they wider or narrower than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]? If they are wider we could possible come up with something... Or either way around make a costume head piece.

I mean yes they already give you a discount if you purchase their [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] second if you send them your invoice, but maybe they would be more forthcoming if presented with a concentrated costumer base like this forum.

thanks dld! :)

The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] head piece fits onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] bars. I use it all the time with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] base.
 
doublelongdaddy;506113 said:
I have a long stretch mark, about 4.5" long, beginning at my scrotum base and runs up the belly of my shaft...ironically this scar measures almost identical to my length gains (documented by Channel4 and Salon Magazine).

There is no feeling better then winning.

I have this exact same stretch mark
 
Hey all I've read through all 60 pages of this forum and I'm stuck between the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ( which I already have ) and the PM..I already have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] so all I would have to get is the upgrade kit 1 and whatever extra accessories you guys suggest...but I don't know which is better..DLD I didn't see your opinion on which is better so could you please enlighten me? If the PM is worth the 200 dollars then Im willing to do it because I want to gain..
 
alex8811;506873 said:
Hey all I've read through all 60 pages of this forum and I'm stuck between the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ( which I already have ) and the PM..I already have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] so all I would have to get is the upgrade kit 1 and whatever extra accessories you guys suggest...but I don't know which is better..DLD I didn't see your opinion on which is better so could you please enlighten me? If the PM is worth the 200 dollars then Im willing to do it because I want to gain..

I think the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is probably better. Seems to me the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] would give you skin stretch as well, which would take away from lig stretch. The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is pulling the whole penis directly by the head, no skin stretch.

I can't say for sure because I've never tried the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]. But the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is good if you can afford to spend 200 bucks on something for your penis.

The downsides to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is it's very bulky so it'll be more difficult to conceal in your clothes in public and also will affect your maneuverability compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], because with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] head, the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is much longer. Not sure how much longer the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment makes the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

I use the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] at work and other than pinching of the scrotum (which I hear can be solved by putting a sock over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) I have no real problems. I get back pain from favouring one leg (as penis is down one leg when [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is on, can't really bend that leg), but I also get that pain when using the classic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] piece.

The thing I like about the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is it's easy on the pecker. Unless you have a problem with your glans where it is in pain, this is much safer than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] attachments (although I have not tried the velcro). My penis is ready to go for a stretch immediately when coming out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. And it gets me in that great jelly state. The classic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] piece gets me in the jelly state too, but the glans is usually shrunken and in pain after hours of extending.
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is ideal for sitting and extending or doing minimal movement. Very nice because most of your shaft is exposed, so you can heating pad it while extending.

I had a glans injury so I'm taking it easy on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] for the moment, but I'm happy with my investment.

I am a hard gainer and have only seen FSL gains through extending, which were minimal, but I believe extending to be a good addition to manual stretching (immediately after a stretch, stretching between extending sets)

There's my review. Hope it helps.
 
MikeShlort;506961 said:
I think the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is probably better. Seems to me the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] would give you skin stretch as well, which would take away from lig stretch. The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is pulling the whole penis directly by the head, no skin stretch.

I can't say for sure because I've never tried the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]. But the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is good if you can afford to spend 200 bucks on something for your penis.

The downsides to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is it's very bulky so it'll be more difficult to conceal in your clothes in public and also will affect your maneuverability compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], because with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] head, the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is much longer. Not sure how much longer the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment makes the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].

I use the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] at work and other than pinching of the scrotum (which I hear can be solved by putting a sock over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) I have no real problems. I get back pain from favouring one leg (as penis is down one leg when [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is on, can't really bend that leg), but I also get that pain when using the classic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] piece.

The thing I like about the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is it's easy on the pecker. Unless you have a problem with your glans where it is in pain, this is much safer than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] attachments (although I have not tried the velcro). My penis is ready to go for a stretch immediately when coming out of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. And it gets me in that great jelly state. The classic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] piece gets me in the jelly state too, but the glans is usually shrunken and in pain after hours of extending.
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is ideal for sitting and extending or doing minimal movement. Very nice because most of your shaft is exposed, so you can heating pad it while extending.

I had a glans injury so I'm taking it easy on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] for the moment, but I'm happy with my investment.

I am a hard gainer and have only seen FSL gains through extending, which were minimal, but I believe extending to be a good addition to manual stretching (immediately after a stretch, stretching between extending sets)

There's my review. Hope it helps.


Good points on both. I would not have included a second [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] in our catalog but the members wanted it and upon my inspection it was different enough to carry its own.
 
so im thinking of ordering a penismaster, what extra parts are worth adding with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]-Special ?
 
Well, I could never get the pump ball to work. I ordered the hose attachment with it. Works great. That was an extra
As far as spare components, you'll go through sluices the quickest.
Second quickest would probably be the lube.
My diaphragm lasted over two months, comes with 5.
 
Razorsharp;506971 said:
so im thinking of ordering a penismaster, what extra parts are worth adding with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]-Special ?


They give a $40 credit that you can use on anything in their parts shop.
 
Thanks mike :-)

doublelongdaddy;507011 said:
They give a $40 credit that you can use on anything in their parts shop.

yes thats why I ask what parts that are worth adding with the extra credit you get with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words]-special
 
Razorsharp;507146 said:
Thanks mike :-)



yes thats why I ask what parts that are worth adding with the extra credit you get with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words]-special


Alright, I got you. Read through the three threads we have going, there have been many suggestions.
 
I bought plenty of the latex diaphragms & Sluices. I go thru more diaphragms than sluices.
I also bought some of the larger sluices to see if there would be any advantage; not for me.
I use a water based lube, Walmart has a few brands, a small droplet does the trick; too much and one may slip out too easily.
 
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