Peter South's PGE1 (caverject) Experiment

8/2

I did nothing, came home with massive headache. Seem to notice a pattern here where hours of work makes me feel overtrained and stressed the next day. Also I'm not getting enough sleep due to staying up all night doing this. Need to work on time management.

Still, it's hard not to when you have nothing else to do during that time. Maybe I should sit and watch TV passively so I can do it again the next day or maybe I should keep up the intensity and try to improve my recovery. I'm also very busy and it's a little much to do every day but I'll try to get into ED next week and see if progress is faster.

I would really like to add hardcore Bathmate stretches to the end of each session. They are counterproductive during the session but I think they would be effective as a finish if I can recover.
 
petersouth;495507 said:
8/2

I did nothing, came home with massive headache. Seem to notice a pattern here where hours of work makes me feel overtrained and stressed the next day. Also I'm not getting enough sleep due to staying up all night doing this. Need to work on time management.

Still, it's hard not to when you have nothing else to do during that time. Maybe I should sit and watch TV passively so I can do it again the next day or maybe I should keep up the intensity and try to improve my recovery. I'm also very busy and it's a little much to do every day but I'll try to get into ED next week and see if progress is faster.

I would really like to add hardcore Bathmate stretches to the end of each session. They are counterproductive during the session but I think they would be effective as a finish if I can recover.
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Maybe you're going too hard at first. Maybe inject every other day, or every third day?
Either way, let me know if jelqing during the injection is helpful
What length work are you doing?
 
Hey petersouth. Congrats on the 1/8" gain in girth bro. With the PGE-1 induced erection is it an intense erection like when clamping. I can't imagine how being massively engorged or 4 hrs a day can't bring about gains. Keep it up bro.
 
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kingsnake;495584 said:
Hey petersouth. Congrats on the 1/8" gain in girth bro. With the PGE-1 induced erection is it an intense erection like when clamping. I can't imagine how being massively engorged or 4 hrs a day can't bring about gains. Keep it up bro.
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Thanks man, it's pretty awesome because I didn't really need to measure. I could see and feel the difference.

Not sure even what clamping is, have to look into that.

But yes the erection is very intense and when you get it really hard it HURTS in a strange way that has nothing to do with how hard it is. I mean I've had erections that were that hard but they don't feel like that, which is why I think there is something about the PGE1 that is causing breakdown of tissue over and above the erection itself.
 
petersouth;495656 said:
Thanks man, it's pretty awesome because I didn't really need to measure. I could see and feel the difference.

Not sure even what clamping is, have to look into that.

But yes the erection is very intense and when you get it really hard it HURTS in a strange way that has nothing to do with how hard it is. I mean I've had erections that were that hard but they don't feel like that, which is why I think there is something about the PGE1 that is causing breakdown of tissue over and above the erection itself.
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Try manual stretching after it goes down, when it's still in that hurting stage. I think that may be the best time to stretch. Then slap on an extender or wrap?
 
MikeShlort;495564 said:
Maybe you're going too hard at first. Maybe inject every other day, or every third day?
Either way, let me know if jelqing during the injection is helpful
What length work are you doing?
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I may be going too hard, I'll try to do two days in a row and take Sunday off. Then start back up next week and try to stick to the schedule.

For length I want to do SG/manual supersets during the day at work but my time management sucks staying up late doing this and then being late for work. So I need to work on that for next week.

Ideally my routine will be

SG/Manual supersets 3x during work hours

Get home from work 3-4 hours PGE1
500-1000 wet jelqs during PGE1
Bathmate hardcore stretches for length near end of session

I'll say this, jelqing is very desireable. That is my opinion.

I don't think someone could possibly not grow doing that.
 
MikeShlort;495658 said:
Try manual stretching after it goes down, when it's still in that hurting stage. I think that may be the best time to stretch. Then slap on an extender or wrap?
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I've tried to wrap but I end up not being able to sleep with it on. Trouble is I tend to finish late at night.

Tissue is very tough afterward, could possibly stretch. Stretching just prior to the session may be good as well.

It should be wrapped though because it does turtle quite a bit, I just can't seem to do it and get any sleep and that affects the next day.
 
petersouth;495661 said:
I may be going too hard, I'll try to do two days in a row and take Sunday off. Then start back up next week and try to stick to the schedule.

For length I want to do SG/manual supersets during the day at work but my time management sucks staying up late doing this and then being late for work. So I need to work on that for next week.

Ideally my routine will be

SG/Manual supersets 3x during work hours

Get home from work 3-4 hours PGE1
500-1000 wet jelqs during PGE1
Bathmate hardcore stretches for length near end of session

I'll say this, jelqing is very desireable. That is my opinion.

I don't think someone could possibly not grow doing that.
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Well measure yourself now and then a month from now and tell me how this routine has gained because I am very interested in your approach and I may want to start this myself. You can tell me your experiences of what worked and I can try some things as well and hopefully find things that help and we can help each other and everyone here. There are a million ways to go about Penis Enlargement so it's great that you're doing something like this to experiment for us all.
 
petersouth;495662 said:
I've tried to wrap but I end up not being able to sleep with it on. Trouble is I tend to finish late at night.

Tissue is very tough afterward, could possibly stretch. Stretching just prior to the session may be good as well.

It should be wrapped though because it does turtle quite a bit, I just can't seem to do it and get any sleep and that affects the next day.
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Try a divosuit man. I think the uncle jim's wrap is too tight - I tried it and it seemed to leave an impression on my skin. It's kinda like the discoloration from the Bathmate - cuts off circulation or something. I'm going to buy a divosuit and hopefully it will be loose enough to not cause the circulation loss and discoloration but tight enough to stop it from turtling. I get the turtle bad too. My penis can go from long and loose to tight and turtled in an instant and it fluctuates through the day, really pisses me off.
i'm going to try primrose oil (I think this is what it's called) King snake suggested it to keep that flaccid pump.
 
MikeShlort;495665 said:
Try a divosuit man. I think the uncle jim's wrap is too tight - I tried it and it seemed to leave an impression on my skin. It's kinda like the discoloration from the Bathmate - cuts off circulation or something. I'm going to buy a divosuit and hopefully it will be loose enough to not cause the circulation loss and discoloration but tight enough to stop it from turtling. I get the turtle bad too. My penis can go from long and loose to tight and turtled in an instant and it fluctuates through the day, really pisses me off.
i'm going to try primrose oil (I think this is what it's called) King snake suggested it to keep that flaccid pump.
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I was thinking that. I think divosuit is made from spandex or some kind of smooth material, that would help.
 
petersouth;495669 said:
I was thinking that. I think divosuit is made from spandex or some kind of smooth material, that would help.
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One thing about wearing it at night though - I've read and been told that night time erections are key to gaining - especially when taking PGE1, as it makes your night time erections stronger. So you may not want to wrap/extend/divosuit at night because it could be stopping you from getting an erection, thus gaining.

Check out this patent. It's from a doctor who specialized in the injections. It gives all the theory, it's just a lot of medical data and drug names to sift through. The gist of it is the penis expands from the injections, causing the long erections and growth, which slowly in time stretches the dorsal tendon, causing length gain, and causes the girth to grow by being engorged for so long, and in turn the injections help night time erections which promote growth as well. I believe the erections promote healthy blood flow as well, which is good for gaining.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2486714/summary.html
 
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the Bathmate and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after Bathmate session. I think Bathmate in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
 
petersouth;495687 said:
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the Bathmate and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after Bathmate session. I think Bathmate in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
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Wow, 3.5 hours is mostly the longest I have ever gone. Does it take any effort to keep the erection?
 
petersouth;495687 said:
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the Bathmate and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after Bathmate session. I think Bathmate in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
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So the Bathmate help bring down the erection?
 
doublelongdaddy;495732 said:
Wow, 3.5 hours is mostly the longest I have ever gone. Does it take any effort to keep the erection?
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Not much, once you get it going good it's tough to lose it.

If I don't touch it for 5 minutes and just walk around picking things up it will go down to 75% or so.
 
8/7

Finally got up the nerve to do another injection. Tried on Saturday and I just couldn't make myself do it.

So after a chest workout at the gym I shot some IGF-1 DES into my pec and proceeded to my 8mcg shot.

Well it didn't do squat, it has that familiar soreness but I'm not getting hard. I think it may be the IGF-1 because I feel a bit hypoglycemic. Hopefully another half hour passes after eating some simple carbs it will get hard, otherwise I'll have to inject again. I may have missed the CC so I want to be sure of the cause before I inject again.

On a positive note I did do 1 set of manual stretching and wore the SG extender for 10 hours at a low tension today. I'm going to try to wear it the whole day from now on with as many manual sets as I can.
 
8/7 continued...

Managed to do about 2 hour on and off. I'm not really sure what happened but in the end I said fuck it no way I'm sticking that needle back in my dick at 1 in the morning.

If there is a lesson here, don't use PGE1 after you shoot IGF-1 systemic and don't miss the CC. Pretty sure I missed the CC with part of it.
 
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great reports. thank you.

I think when everything inside you says no at certain times to the injection then you should wait another day. Its probably a sign.
 
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