Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words]? Thanks man
 
rebel2011;469082 said:
It sounds like there must be a check valve in between the attachment point of the turkey baster and the vacuum chamber? I ask because check valves are horrible about leaking a small amount back out before they seal. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is a prime example. There is always a small air bubble at the top
That's right. The valve is a screw-down cap with a piece of rubber or foam inside which is forced against the air inlet. The bulb is used as a giant nut to screw the valve 90 degrees open then closed. One of the other problems is the valve's screw-down timing must be exact. What I mean is the bulb attachment fits onto the nut without regard to where the nut is with respect to the valve's open or close status. You can unscrew the valve an extra 90 degrees accidentally. This means when you attach the bulb and rotate it 90 degrees more you are unaware when you rotate it back it won't be closed. This means after applying the device you have to remove it and start over.
 
Dickleaker has the basis in Penis Enlargement to understand what he's talking about with respect to 'inner penis'. However, I feel this subject becomes immediately misunderstood by newcomers. The portion of penis which resides inside the body is not being pulled out of your body. You are not re-arranging your anatomy with Penis Enlargement. The concept originated with the BTC type stretching and the effects it rapidly achieved. Actually, by stretching your suspensory ligaments you acquire increased usable length by lowering the "exit point" and somewhat straightening the line between the inner and outer. As hangers will tell you, some of this length is simply an illusion. But a very acceptable one because lowering the exit point gives the visual of a much longer penis than has actually been obtained. This is where the expression "pulling out the inner penis" originated, but the fact is: it hasn't moved. The stretched ligament produces less of a limiting factor.

Keep in mind that long before your body would allow a portion to be removed by pulling, it would either rip or grow. You cannot relocate parts of your body. Besides, if you could externalize the inner portion, what would replace the space it would leave behind? Growth occurs slowly and your body would not appreciate the idea something is being removed. It actually sees this on a minute-by-minute basis as stress. Stress causes several reaction stages in the order of efficiency: 1) strengthening 2) thickening 3) stretching 4) growing. Each method is tried until it fails, leading the body to move to the next most efficient over time. Growth is the least efficient, so it is the last resort*. Strengthening is the first and is the reason many newcomers give up after a couple of weeks or so: they never get past this stage. Also, it must be understood different tissues have different reaction times. For example, skin moves through the stages quickly whereas ligaments tend to take much longer. Skeletal muscle is in-between the two. According to the medical community, smooth muscle should not be stretched. Likewise, in the interest of efficiency the body will re-absorb some or all gains when the stress is removed: just as it does with bodybuilders**.

There are four significant factors which limit the size of your erect penis: 1) attachment ligaments/septum 2) the smooth muscle of the tunicae 3) healthy blood pressure 4) excitement level

Items 1 and 2 are easily stretched with force over time. Item 3 can be increased with exercise. Item 4 can be increased by eliminating masturbation.

Anything which pulls from the glans pulls the entire penis. The glans is firmly attached via the septum which in turn is attached via ligaments. There is no such thing as pulling only a portion of the penis, the glans must transfer its experienced force to the septum which in turn must transfer the force to the ligaments which then transfer it to the bone. Some of the force is dissipated along the way, but it must take this route. For example, you can't pull just a section of a rope, no matter what: it transfers all the way to the other end. Pulls can feel differently, but it doesn't mean they're working better or worse than another with respect to inspiring growth. After years of Penis Enlargement, I can comfortably say that I've gained without feeling anything in particular and I've been sore as hell without results.


*Visitors to the gym will know that muscles get stronger before they get bigger. It's more efficient for the body to create more nerve connections than it is to add muscle tissue. However, after the body has exhausted its more efficient methods, the muscle grows to accommodate the stress.
**Protein intake can also affect the speed of this reduction.
 
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Dickleaker;469107 said:
Moregains

I am having similar problems but I am no one near the size of ur glans :/

One thing that I tried tonight was leaving the pump ball on the glans attachment for 30 seconds to create a better vacuum and that seems to work much better.Like the vid says leave it on even tho ur glans has already been sucked inside ...its still creating more vacuum.
So dickleaker u are now having problems with it?
 
Dickleaker;469107 said:
Like the vid says leave it on even tho ur glans has already been sucked inside ...its still creating more vacuum.
I think they're actually wanting your glans to expand under the current vacuum condition. Once the bulb returns to its resting size or it's removed there is no additional vacuum. By expanding it reduces issues such as blistering which can occur anytime there is a void, it also allows it to create surface tension within the dome, and makes a plug which can help prevent it from starting the process of slipping out.

My problem seems to be that I'm already filling the device. But as I said, I'll go at it very methodically this weekend and get if figured out with certainty.
 
SA,
Thanks for your support! I would say if you like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and you are getting gains with it and you also like growing the bit extra foreskin then stick with it and milk it for everything it got for you!!

If your gains plateau in the future then you have this device as a backup plan to try out.
For me
I got the peni pro because I didn't get any gains stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] like some other guys altho I did get some awesome new foreskin but I wanted that and am restoring back to uncut.My next measure date is coming up on the 20th and if there are gains then I will attribute them to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words]/Sg.
Hope that helps you out so you are not doubting your path here .
I think you have to believe in the methods you pursue and feel confident they will give you gains cause its your mind pushing all your cock growing behavior.
shavenasian;469134 said:
Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words]? Thanks man
 
Celtank,

Dude you have a big cock ;)

I solved the problems I was having initially with this thing.
It arrived during a couple of super busy days for me so I didn't have the focus I normally have and should apply to a new device.
I was removing the vacuum ball way too early and now leave it on for at least 30 seconds to create a better vacuum.

Last night I went 3 hours with NO BREAKS and zero discomfort which is truly amazing for a torture device like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]...think about the choices we had only a year ago with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...most gave you a cold blue numb glans with alot of suffering while you were extending.We live in good times with these 2 options now!!!

When I took off the peni pro(name is weird for me :/ ) my dick head was expanded and pumped up 1 1/2" times its normal size.Would be cool to get a bigger glans from wearing this as a bonus!!

Now the only issue I have with it is getting it off...takes me a couple of minutes to pull my glans out after a session...anybody experience this?

Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !

celttank;469153 said:
So dickleaker u are now having problems with it?
 
Haha yeah it's pretty big but i want more! Almost at 8.5 nbp.
I'm very close to buying this, i'm gettin sick of the burning pain when i'm in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] for only an hour.
Bigger glans would be a great bonus.
How long did delivery take by the way?
 
shavenasian;469134 said:
Dickleaker - man I respect your opinion 100% - you know how well the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] has worked out for me, given that, do you think I should go for the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words]? Thanks man

What are you gains using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]?
 
I don't see why people complain about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] so much >.> the cold glands doesn't bother me until like 2 hours in. Even then I just take it off for a minute and it's ready to go again without any pain. Maybe I'm used to pain.. I love getting shots and when I got my piercing it felt so good. I like the burning feeling, it feels like.. somethings working.
 
Deonz

You may not mind the cold glans and numbness but its not healthy for your penis to have its blood supply cut off for long periods of time.
Deonz;469218 said:
I don't see why people complain about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] so much >.> the cold glands doesn't bother me until like 2 hours in. Even then I just take it off for a minute and it's ready to go again without any pain. Maybe I'm used to pain.. I love getting shots and when I got my piercing it felt so good. I like the burning feeling, it feels like.. somethings working.
 
I will measure next week and that will mark 4 months of using it.

Last time I measured in november 5th I had none,altho my flaccid size was quite a bit bigger :)
Supra;469209 said:
What are you gains using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]?
 
Dickleaker;469220 said:
Deonz

You may not mind the cold glans and numbness but its not healthy for your penis to have its blood supply cut off for long periods of time.

True, maybe for a really long time. I don't keep it on long enough for that to happen though. I did order the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for being able to have it on for even longer without the blood cut off, not sure how fast it ships, my address is in NYC, so hopefully quickly. Though this is off topic, how long can you keep either the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] or The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] on? Long term, which is more cost efficient based on your usage? Well.. I can't say you should base it on your length gains, but any help with comparing costs would help. I don't think I'll be getting the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] anytime soon, but maybe in the future I could invest, if it's even better and promotes better/faster gains.
 
Dickleaker;469162 said:
Celtank,

Dude you have a big cock ;)

I solved the problems I was having initially with this thing.
It arrived during a couple of super busy days for me so I didn't have the focus I normally have and should apply to a new device.
I was removing the vacuum ball way too early and now leave it on for at least 30 seconds to create a better vacuum.

Last night I went 3 hours with NO BREAKS and zero discomfort which is truly amazing for a torture device like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]...think about the choices we had only a year ago with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...most gave you a cold blue numb glans with alot of suffering while you were extending.We live in good times with these 2 options now!!!

When I took off the peni pro(name is weird for me :/ ) my dick head was expanded and pumped up 1 1/2" times its normal size.Would be cool to get a bigger glans from wearing this as a bonus!!

Now the only issue I have with it is getting it off...takes me a couple of minutes to pull my glans out after a session...anybody experience this?

Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !
Wore my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for 4 hours non stop with no comfort problems :D

"Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !"
^ is that using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] or the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC?
 
Good for you Gravik...you have come a long way with this device and deserve a bigger cock because of your
perseverance(I hope it works that way haha).

The stretch I feel all the way to my asshole is from the peni pro/SG. Its a different stretch then the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG.
Only time will tell if it transmits to gains but already my flaccid is about 1/2" bigger after only a few days.

Good luck to you my friend.
Gravik;469237 said:
Wore my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for 4 hours non stop with no comfort problems :D

"Like others have said using this I feel the stretch all the way to my asshole-inner penis !"
^ is that using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] or the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC?
 
The "stretch all the way to the asshole" is a sign that you're finally getting the connective 'ropes' engaged for a good period of time. I only get that feeling now after many hours of low [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] but it's very mild. Years ago when I finally got the hang of things I got that good burn feeling. This is skeletal muscle tissue being stretched. As the muscles stretch it will reduce in intensity. I miss that feel.
 
No Squashbuddie(hope you aren't squashing your cock?!)

What are those?
Squashbuddie;469358 said:
Dickleaker - have you tried the bridge stretches with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words]/penimaster?
 
Moregains,

Any luck with the head attachment?Your glans at 6 1/2" in circumference is massive!!

Are the the connective ropes what attach to the pelvic bone?

Yeah it is a really good stretch and one I didn't feel with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment.
We will see if it translates to gains.
MoreGains123;469359 said:
The "stretch all the way to the asshole" is a sign that you're finally getting the connective 'ropes' engaged for a good period of time. I only get that feeling now after many hours of low [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] but it's very mild. Years ago when I finally got the hang of things I got that good burn feeling. This is skeletal muscle tissue being stretched. As the muscles stretch it will reduce in intensity. I miss that feel.
 
So it's working well for u dickleaker?
Did u get the discount code off them?
I sent them my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] invoice and i'm hopeing to get the discount code...
 
These
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...s-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-(with-pic)

I added a big bar after 3 weeks of doing these in short intervals of 1 hour during a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] session.. But i cannot do it anymore, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] is too uncomfortable, and the cone has gotten bigger since i started on these stretches.. Hopefully the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] Will be better.
 
Dickleaker;469363 said:
Any luck with the head attachment?Your glans at 6 1/2" in circumference is massive!!

Are the the connective ropes what attach to the pelvic bone?

Yeah it is a really good stretch and one I didn't feel with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment. We will see if it translates to gains.
I did get it to work somewhat. BTW, to remove the device: try putting the bulb back on (not squeezed), rotate the blub/valve and then squeeze the bulb. This forces air into the dome and should expel your glans easily.

I use the term 'connective ropes' to talk about the connection from the end of the septum at back of the glans (the corona) all the way through to the bone, including any tough collagen in between (ligaments, septum, fascia and I include tunicae). When you feel that burn you are stretching the skeletal muscle which is also an erection-length hindrance. It's minor, but everything adds up to fight the blood pressure filling the penis. I found when I felt that burn it also indicated I was not pulling skin or much in the way of tunicae. You can test that by feeling the skin and tunicae for tightness. If they're relatively loose, yet there is a tight cord inside the penis: voila! Connective rope is being tugged almost exclusively.

Every device is horrible for one guy and great for another. Each of our brains seems to make sense of different designs. It took me a long time to pull only the rope with the Bib, but the first time I felt it was with the SS heavy. I think this is simply because vacuum-based devices pull from the skin of the glans exclusively. Therefore, the only transfer point is the septum. Of course this is why vacuum became so popular years ago. But most guys became frustrated with them due to blistering so they never became the de facto standard. Also, attaching them can be a nightmare. The penismaster pro seems to have solved that problem for some guys and once again a device will be perfect for some guys.

I'm still staring at it trying to figure out how I might be able to get it to work for me. Based on its design I have altered my SS heavy and used it for 12 hours yesterday without issue. I got the application time down to 4 minutes. So I think if you get the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]: 1) try it 2) if it works, stretch your penis 3) if it doesn't, they have a return policy.
 
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Celtank,

Yeah its working great now for me.I was removing the pump to create the vacuum too early and now leave it on for about 30 seconds to get a good seal.Then into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and stretch for hours.I remove it every 2 hours or so and rest my glans for 10 minutes.
I feel the stretch in the connective ropes that MoreGains is talking about in his post above.
It is a very different stretch than when using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].

Like I said we will see if this translates to gains for me.
So far I have been able to wear this device much longer without any discomfort so that is a good thing when it comes to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words].

I didn't request a discount when I ordered mine cause I didn't know they offered one.
Altho it seems expensive to anyone who hasn't used it ,for me now that I have ,the comfort and
stretch I get are definitely worth the steep price!

Let me know when you get yours and if you have any problems with it.There is a small learning curve to it.
Good luck!
celttank;469367 said:
So it's working well for u dickleaker?
Did u get the discount code off them?
I sent them my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] invoice and i'm hopeing to get the discount code...
 
SQ,

Those are ingenious!!
I will try this out.Do you insert a bridge both up and down of the rods or are you trying to induce or reduce a curve at all?

The skin cones on the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] do stretch ou of shape I find after about 2 months or less if you are stretching at high tension.
Squashbuddie;469369 said:
These
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...s-Bridge-Stretch-and-Twist-Stretch-(with-pic)

I added a big bar after 3 weeks of doing these in short intervals of 1 hour during a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] session.. But i cannot do it anymore, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] is too uncomfortable, and the cone has gotten bigger since i started on these stretches.. Hopefully the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words] Will be better.
 
MG,

Thanks for the tip on removing the attachment...thats a great idea!

Have you asked if they make a larger glans attachment?Is the major problem for you?

4 minutes is still frustrating but if you went for 12 hours thats a good payoff man!!

Good luck with it ...hope it gets easier for you to apply.


MoreGains123;469435 said:
I did get it to work somewhat. BTW, to remove the device: try putting the bulb back on (not squeezed), rotate the blub/valve and then squeeze the bulb. This forces air into the dome and should expel your glans easily.

I use the term 'conne,
ctive ropes' to talk about the connection from the end of the septum at back of the glans (the corona) all the way through to the bone, including any tough collagen in between (ligaments, septum, fascia and I include tunicae). When you feel that burn you are stretching the skeletal muscle which is also an erection-length hindrance. It's minor, but everything adds up to fight the blood pressure filling the penis. I found when I felt that burn it also indicated I was not pulling skin or much in the way of tunicae. You can test that by feeling the skin and tunicae for tightness. If they're relatively loose, yet there is a tight cord inside the penis: voila! Connective rope is being tugged almost exclusively.

Every device is horrible for one guy and great for another. Each of our brains seems to make sense of different designs. It took me a long time to pull only the rope with the Bib, but the first time I felt it was with the SS heavy. I think this is simply because vacuum-based devices pull from the skin of the glans exclusively. Therefore, the only transfer point is the septum. Of course this is why vacuum became so popular years ago. But most guys became frustrated with them due to blistering so they never became the de facto standard. Also, attaching them can be a nightmare. The penismaster pro seems to have solved that problem for some guys and once again a device will be perfect for some guys.

I'm still staring at it trying to figure out how I might be able to get it to work for me. Based on its design I have altered my SS heavy and used it for 12 hours yesterday without issue. I got the application time down to 4 minutes. So I think if you get the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]: 1) try it 2) if it works, stretch your penis 3) if it doesn't, they have a return policy.
 
I do it on one side at a time.. The stretch is incredible, the flaccid length after a couple of hours with this is insane. I went directly into my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] when I did these, I think that also had something to do with the gains I had. I have a small curve to the left. I was actually thinking about twisting the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG 90 degrees, to straighten everything out, but my penis just doesn't bend to the side as well as the other way, if that makes sense :)
 
Dickleaker;469451 said:
Have you asked if they make a larger glans attachment?Is the major problem for you?
It is the primary issue. I will email them today.

Dickleaker;469451 said:
4 minutes is still frustrating but if you went for 12 hours thats a good payoff man!!
But it's straight-forward so I don't mind. What I find frustrating are applications that can fail at any point. It kind of makes you nervous as you're putting something on. BTW, the 12 hours was in 4 groups of 3 hours each. My glans is a little pink from being yanked all day, but other than that it's ok. (It doesn't hurt.) I'm also going to suggest SS tell its SS HD users about this mod.
 
Dickleaker;469357 said:
Good for you Gravik...you have come a long way with this device and deserve a bigger cock because of your
perseverance(I hope it works that way haha).

The stretch I feel all the way to my asshole is from the peni pro/SG. Its a different stretch then the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG.
Only time will tell if it transmits to gains but already my flaccid is about 1/2" bigger after only a few days.

Good luck to you my friend.

So the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] was def. worth getting?
I'm tempted to get it and then wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]/vlc one day, then [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words]/sg the next.

You have any pics on how it connects to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?
 
I go 2 hours with a 10 minute break. Do you get any FR in your glans or expansion at the end of session?
Good luck on a larger head piece!

Who are the SS and the SS HD?
MoreGains123;469458 said:
It is the primary issue. I will email them today.


But it's straight-forward so I don't mind. What I find frustrating are applications that can fail at any point. It kind of makes you nervous as you're putting something on. BTW, the 12 hours was in 4 groups of 3 hours each. My glans is a little pink from being yanked all day, but other than that it's ok. (It doesn't hurt.) I'm also going to suggest SS tell its SS HD users about this mod.
 
Gravik,

For me the value is in the length of time I can stretch without counting the hours.It is very comfortable!
I can't say at this point whether it will translate to gains but my feeling is because the stretch I get is similar to the one you get with a comfort strap setup designed by [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] ,the chances of getting gains are better (that's just my opinion).

The pro kit comes with a rod piece attachment that fits the rods of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].The pro attaches to this.
Gravik;469501 said:
So the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] was def. worth getting?
I'm tempted to get it and then wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]/vlc one day, then [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster[/words]/sg the next.

You have any pics on how it connects to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?
 
Haven't tried your bridge stretches yet but maybe tonight!
I just had a thought that if you have a thicker and thicker bridge you could increase this sort of stretch in the middle of your penis.
So far I love the peni pro and didn't think there could be anything better than the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]!I have a small curve to the left and have a curve upwards that I also like.
Squashbuddie;469455 said:
I do it on one side at a time.. The stretch is incredible, the flaccid length after a couple of hours with this is insane. I went directly into my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] when I did these, I think that also had something to do with the gains I had. I have a small curve to the left. I was actually thinking about twisting the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG 90 degrees, to straighten everything out, but my penis just doesn't bend to the side as well as the other way, if that makes sense :)
 
Dickleaker;469523 said:
Who are the SS and the SS HD?
I use SS to mean Static Stretcher and the SS HD to mean the Static Stretcher Heavy Duty. It's just too much to type!

I'm using a new tape and in a new manner that eliminates a great deal of time and aggravation and I'm using their Static Press Vac (whatever that means) like the latex balloon on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words].

I got the idea after studying the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster[/words] and comparing it to how the SS HD functions. I've always used the SS HD after Bib-hanger sessions and have found the combo to be very successful over the past 3 years. However, I've gained a lot of unexpected girth which I attribute to the Bib. I just don't want anymore: 6 is my thinnest spot, base girth is 7.5.

I've always wanted to be able to use the SS HD as a true all-day device because I'm really tired of hanging (after many, many hours and significant discoloration). But when I saw this [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] I thought it could be the missing link for me. I had intended to use it as the attachment point along with the SS HD's base and tension rods. It was pricey and that's why I suggested we wait and see what some early adopters thought. Then I decided to become an early adopter. Unfortunately, my girth appears to be an issue.

But it inspired me to create a solution, so I'm still happy. In my modified SS HD, I've logged 40 hours in the past 5 days with zero issues. The SS base is superior to all the other bases (they've got a patent on it) because it goes around the testicles instead of pressing against them: I hated that with my first [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] (Andropenis).

So the SS HD is working really well for me now, but as I said before: the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words]'s concept is clever and if it works for you, use it!
 
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anybody gain any erect length with this yet? because i want to buy it now but i want to know if it is worth it and whether the fuss about getting suction or not is true. is it really simple to use and apply?
 
karmi;469587 said:
anybody gain any erect length with this yet?
Too early to say, but anything that pulls on your penis over a long period of time will give you gains.
karmi;469587 said:
because i want to buy it now but i want to know if it is worth it and whether the fuss about getting suction or not is true.
As with all Penis Enlargement gear: some like it, some don't. There's no such thing as a "magic-bullet-one-device-suits-all".
karmi;469587 said:
is it really simple to use and apply?
It can be, but again different guys see device designs differently. Some people like golf weights but you'd never catch me suggesting them.
 
Like MoreGains said its too early to tell.There are a few guys here now using it but if you read this entire thread the earliest user would be Fonic .The rest of us have only just started with it .I have used it for about a week.
So far my flaccid size is longer and my erections are more frequent.That is a good sign to me.

Also when I get erect with it on and in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with an erection it measures about 1/2" more than my erection without .That is pretty exciting to see!

Its super comfortable for me and I am wearing it up to 8 hours a day.That is good time to be in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and most guys get gains from putting in long hours over time in the past.

If you have a monster cockhead like MoreGains you may not fit inside the head attachment.It is not as easy to apply as the the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] which takes me max of 5 seconds to put on.However once you learn it ,takes approximately 30 seconds.
karmi;469587 said:
anybody gain any erect length with this yet? because i want to buy it now but i want to know if it is worth it and whether the fuss about getting suction or not is true. is it really simple to use and apply?
 
I just got it today as well..

My first impressions are very good, its the most comfortable thing I have tried so far. I never found out how to use the bulb.. My glans just wont get in.. I tried for about 30 min without any progress. I then tried the hose, 10 seconds later i was ready to go. I put on some Breaking bad and fell asleep.. 3 hours later the burning feeling in my shaft woke me. I honestly have never felt that before.. Dont get me wrong, it wasnt bad pain, but pain as in "watch out DLD".. ;)

Jokes aside, I am looking forward to try it out again after work.. I feel like i Can stay in it for as long as i want.. Im gonna try out the bulb a lot more, otherwise i will write them for advise since i must be doing something wrong.

I will get back to you all in a couple of days with a complete review.. I only tried it for 3 hours so far. But I think things are going the right way..
 
tbone77;469602 said:
is everyone just getting the upgrade kit 1?
Most of us already have at least one [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base and rod assembly.
 
MoreGains123;469607 said:
Most of us already have at least one [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] base and rod assembly.

i understand that....but there is an upgrade kit 2 that has the belt strap as well.
 
DO NOT BUY THIS BEFORE I GET AN AFFILIATION OR YPOU ARE WASTING MONEY! DAMN! I will get you guys a huge discount.
 
doublelongdaddy;469620 said:
DO NOT BUY THIS BEFORE I GET AN AFFILIATION OR YPOU ARE WASTING MONEY! DAMN! I will get you guys a huge discount.
Good looking out DLD I kinda like my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] I'm just interested in the attachments and maybe a good leg strap somewhere
and hopefully they will fit the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] has anyone tried yet?
 
doublelongdaddy;469620 said:
DO NOT BUY THIS BEFORE I GET AN AFFILIATION OR YPOU ARE WASTING MONEY! DAMN! I will get you guys a huge discount.

Damn that'd be awesome. I've tried everything, the 16 way strap, the velcro mod, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] mod... They all feel like torture devices after an hour. I want to try this, but I don't want to pay 250 for something that may or may not work well for me.
 
tbone77;469609 said:
there is an upgrade kit 2 that has the belt strap as well.
IMO, belt straps are garbage. The concept seems sound, however there are a few reasons why it's not:

1) Cyclic tugging is good for skin growth but not so good for other tissues.
2) Inconsistent tension (along with cyclic) can encourage toughening versus growth. You don't end up with the fatigue that others get with weight or spring tension.
3) It ends up being on your mind constantly. You worry about maximizing tension and will find yourself shifting around a lot.
4) Impossible to conceal without the baggiest of clothes. At the belt-line sucks, over the shoulder is worse, down the leg is almost tolerable, but none are very concealable.
5) Sometimes a body position will yank the hell out of you (you drop something or trip). If this happens with any vacuum device it can pull a blister right then and there.
6) The documented best-known growth is caused by consistent unrelenting tension (even if it's very low). Belts cannot deliver this.

I've never known anyone who reported success using a belt. As I said, they seem like good ideas but are ultimately frustrating and a waste of money.
 
Update:

I've been able to wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a good 5 hours today with a couple of toilet breaks.. I still haven't been able to get the bulb to work, I experience exactly the same problems as moregains was having. The hose works like it should though, but you really have to be careful with how much vacuum you get. It doesn't need at much at you would think, and too much made my glans go a bit purple after 1 hour. I took it off, massaged for a minute or 2 and put it back on with a little vacuum as possible then there is no problem at all.. I stretch about 1 cm longer than my BPenis EnlargementL, so I guess its only a matter of time when I see gains. I didn't get any gains with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] even though I stretched a lot so no jumping to conclusions yet.
 
how long do we have to wait dld, i wanna buy this mod, i hate the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and velcro. they did give me about 0.45 in gain but i cannot be assed to keep taking it off everyhour
 
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