Hey guys, not posted in a long time, tried PE a couple of times following the newbie routine and being extra careful - a temporary improvement in flaccid hang for the first fortnight, then nothing, dick went back to normal, tiny, and completely impotent. Still taking viagra to have sex, still trying to quit smoking, but got a Bathmate last week and here are my earliest observations:

This is only Day 4 of Bathmate use, so it's too early for any good news. I spend 5 minutes in a hot bath and do my stretches, then....

5 mins bathmate, flaccid

5 mins jelq

I do this 3 times. By the end of the third time in the Bathmate my dick is big and fat for 5 minutes then shrinks back to normal. No other changes as yet, no improved EQ or anything else, but it's only day 4 of a long journey. I have noticed i pumped to a good vacuum initially which was 5 inches on the pump, now it's 6. If I can ever get my dick to permanently sit as it does immediately upon coming out of the Bathmate, I will be the happiest man alive!!

I find it's painful to get a good pump, though. I wish the pumping part were a little easier and took less pressure. My pubic bone hurts.

Apart from that, it's okay to use. I look forward to my post-Bathmate hang lasting longer. That is the first progress marker I will be looking for. If I didn't have ED, I think it would already. Doc doesn't know why I have ED - blood, cholesterol, thyroid, testosterone and hormones all perfect and healthy. Blood oxygen is 99%. It's a mystery, and a bastard.

Anyway, will post updates regularly. Keep up the good work all, and keep sharing.

Thanks
 
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Thanks! Is there a way I can use the Bathmate to temporarily enhance my dong for sex? So it's noticeably thicker?

Welcome home my brother so good to see you here! You’re damn right you can! 20 minutes before having sex go home and pump yourself up to your maximum thickness and Go for it! I always did this right before I had sex always.
 
Welcome home my brother so good to see you here! You’re damn right you can! 20 minutes before having sex go home and pump yourself up to your maximum thickness and Go for it! I always did this right before I had sex always.

Thanks DLD! Good to be back, i don't know why my penis is broken - it can't be too bad or else Viagra wouldn't work. But I'm having one more try at PE with the Bathmate. Viagra plus Bathmate for a plumper erection sounds dangerous - I won't go in at 100% EQ but I will end up there. Best just make sure i'm careful.
 
Thanks DLD! Good to be back, i don't know why my penis is broken - it can't be too bad or else Viagra wouldn't work. But I'm having one more try at PE with the Bathmate. Viagra plus Bathmate for a plumper erection sounds dangerous - I won't go in at 100% EQ but I will end up there. Best just make sure i'm careful.

depending on how long you pump will determine the level of fatigue. I would figure out the shortest amount of time to get you to your maximum girth and stop there. This way you’ll know the the best time and you won’t overdo it or under do it.
 
So if you pump to an erection, does the fact that your wang is full of blood keep that post-pump expansion around longer?

Pumping with, or to, an erection pushes your erect size way beyond your usual erect size, just like it does with a flaccid dick, is that right?
 
So if you pump to an erection, does the fact that your wang is full of blood keep that post-pump expansion around longer?

Pumping with, or to, an erection pushes your erect size way beyond your usual erect size, just like it does with a flaccid dick, is that right?

If you’re looking to keep the expansion around longer deal with the SRT methodology and use a siliring to keep yourself expanded. But if you are doing this right before having sex you want to make sure you don’t go too far and cause fatigue.
 
Trial and error......it will be a study in caution, because trial is fine, but error could be potentially disastrous! The temptation (ego) to pump that mofo up as big as humanly possible will be hard to resist, but resist you must, lest ye damage thy wangage.
 
My fiancee is going on a vacay with her mom on Monday. I can practice while she's away and see how I can get maximum expansion safely so I can really stretch her perfect little vagina when she comes back....
 
Day 5, and my first shitty experience with the Bathmate - but with a reason.

I did things differently. It's just after 17:30 here, and I'm nightshift at my job tonight so i slept during the day. Overdid it slightly and slept until 16:45, so woke up, grabbed my Bathmate.and ran to the sanctity of the bathroom to get a session in before the lady came home from work.

Thing is.....I didn't have time to run a bath and for a five-minute warm up. That should've been a red flag right there, huh?

"Fuggit," I said, "in the shower, give the little guy a quick pull and a rub under the hot water and in we go".

5 minutes. Shitty pump. Poor expansion. Pump off. Nothing. No nice hang. Nada. Dammit. Okay, rub down, bit of massage and jelqing, and back in. Second pump will be better.

Nope. Second pump was better, but I overdid it - cock was sore, so I released a little bit of pressure to take the pain off, and left it five minutes. Looking forward to taking it off and seeing that awesome fat hang.

Nothing.

What the deuce??

Right. Third time's the charm. Massage. Jelq. Back in. Pump.

This time a great pump, great expansion in the BM, fully five minutes, no fuss no muss.

And no hang after. A dead, flaccid cock. Like a sock puppet without a hand in it. No weight. No fat. No girth.

What the fuck??

Undeterred, I will take Saturday Sunday off and resume on Monday - but the way I had been doing it in the bath.

Disappointed, but chalking it up to a change in the way I went about the routine.

Dammit, I need to be bigger, Lord!!
 
My fiancee is going on a vacay with her mom on Monday. I can practice while she's away and see how I can get maximum expansion safely so I can really stretch her perfect little vagina when she comes back....


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You have a bathmate right? just keep this real simple. Get in the bath, if you got something to help with erection like Viagra, use that beforehand. It helps allot with pumping to be erect throughout the session.

Once your in the bathmate, just do a 20 minute session. Push down until you cannot get anymore waiter out the top, and leave it for 5 mins, then push down again to remove water, leave for 5 mins.

Keep that going for the duration. Don't overdo it, and keep pumping more and more water.

After the 20 minutes is up, get erect (you will be if you had the Viagra) and do some jelqing, just simple easy exercises, nothing intense, or exotic, keep it simple for what you want.

Try not to ejaculate, as this is a session. Once your finished with the jelqing, about 5-10 mintes of that, get a cock ring, siliring, or a safe alternative that can be quickly removed.

Apply it either on your penis closest the base, or around the entire package (incl the balls) and leave for a few hours.

Please ensure the cock ring isn't too tight, it only needs to S L O W the flow of blood here, not stop it.
 
I would also add in that over the 20 minutes you should break it down into a superset of five minutes in the tube then five minutes doing the SSJ. This will ward off any fluid retention and keep the expansion pure tissue.
 
I'll give it a try, thanks. Little bit apprehensive about being in the BM for 20 minutes so early into ownership, I was given the impression that I had to build up slowly and condition my penis first, but I'm confident you wouldn't recommend anything that wasn't safe. Thank you for the advice.
 
I would also add in that over the 20 minutes you should break it down into a superset of five minutes in the tube then five minutes doing the SSJ. This will ward off any fluid retention and keep the expansion pure tissue.

Aha!! Yeah that's similar to what I've been doing so far - 5 mins in, then 5 mins jelq for 15 mins.

I will try this out and post my findings! Thank you!
 
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I'll give it a try, thanks. Little bit apprehensive about being in the BM for 20 minutes so early into ownership, I was given the impression that I had to build up slowly and condition my penis first, but I'm confident you wouldn't recommend anything that wasn't safe. Thank you for the advice.

20 minutes in the Bathmate he is going to Cause excessive water retention. I suggest you follow the SRT routine that is called the 5×5×3 It has been the most powerful routine for girth for a very long time now.
 
all my BM sessions are done with the HIGHEST EQ as possible...it made logical sense that if I wanted to gain EL I'd have to do my exercises erect
 
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I feel like moderating your post @Spamjavelin76 , just to set you in a better direction. ;)

Don't hate or even dislike your penis! Love yourself and your penis. Appreciate small increments, good functionality. Take a moment to thank for the things that can seem granted.

Practise makes great, keep at it with SSJs. With other jelqing, don't worry too much.
Just stay consistent, write a progress log.

But please, for the sake of your well-being, don't hate your penis!
 
as Ark mentioned, hate becomes toxic if allowed to be unchecked (just look at what's going on in The World), but on a personal level, it can become a cancer and will sabotage all that you strive for. Clear your mind of any negativity, (this is not an easy exercise)...start with something simple like eliminating words like 'no', 'never', 'not' from your speech/writings for an hour (harder than it sounds), then try two hours...then a whole day (you get the idea). Then replace those negative words with positive ones...it's a simple trick of re-phrasing. Once this starts to become natural, you'll look at yourself in a more positive way...that's the first step in gaining.
 
The SSJ takes a bit of time to master but it’s worth every moment because it is the only closed and girth training that exists. The power of the SSJ is unsurpassable. So continue to practice until you master it. I would like to ask you what directions you’re following so I know you’re doing it properly, please let me know.
 
The SSJ takes a bit of time to master but it’s worth every moment because it is the only closed and girth training that exists. The power of the SSJ is unsurpassable. So continue to practice until you master it. I would like to ask you what directions you’re following so I know you’re doing it properly, please let me know.

I don't have much to go by, what i'm doing is based on a video in which I saw you quickly demonstrate using a dildo. I'm scared of the SSJ, I just can't get past the thought of "This squashing and squeezing can't be good for my peen".
 
If I need anything, it's girth. I'm 6 and a half inches hard, modest by MOS standards, but slightly above statistical average and it's what I was born with. Otherwise? I got nothin'. That's why i get depressed. Does that sound stupid? Yeah. I get depressed because my wang is kinda thin. I've done a ton of jelqing and got nowhere. I swear it got thinner. I want an inch in length and an inch in girth. Surely that should be relatively easy to achieve? Manually, with a Bathmate and a cock ring. I can't be buying more equipment lol.
 
If I need anything, it's girth. I'm 6 and a half inches hard, modest by MOS standards, but slightly above statistical average and it's what I was born with. Otherwise? I got nothin'. That's why i get depressed. Does that sound stupid? Yeah. I get depressed because my wang is kinda thin. I've done a ton of jelqing and got nowhere. I swear it got thinner. I want an inch in length and an inch in girth. Surely that should be relatively easy to achieve? Manually, with a Bathmate and a cock ring. I can't be buying more equipment LOL.

The SlowSquashJelq will not damage your penis in any way. This exercise I created years ago and there’s never been a report of injury. And the fastest way to gain girth is using the 5×5×3 found in the SRT. If you have a BathMate you’re all set. Practice the SSJ and master it, it makes jelqing useless.
 
I had sex today. It was awesome but even with 50mg viagra I wasn't 100% steel-hard. Now....I've been working nightshifts lately, I only had 3 hours sleep and hadn't eaten in 15 hours. But usually with viagra I hang splendidly for the rest of the day. Today, though? Mega shrinkage.

Guys, in all seriousness......I'm really fucking scared. What the hell is happening to me? I'm not overweight, my diet is clean, I exercise daily, I smoke but not to excess.....had blood tests and all is perfect. Why have I shrunk, and why am I completely impotent??? My fiancee is stunning, really really sexy. Why can I not get wood??

I'm starting to seriously consider surgery. I can't go on like this. I'm sorry that sounds so melodramatic, but this issue is ruining me.

I need this bathmate to work. And I honestly think I need counselling.
 
I had sex today. It was awesome but even with 50mg viagra I wasn't 100% steel-hard. Now....I've been working nightshifts lately, I only had 3 hours sleep and hadn't eaten in 15 hours. But usually with viagra I hang splendidly for the rest of the day. Today, though? Mega shrinkage.

Guys, in all seriousness......I'm really fucking scared. What the hell is happening to me? I'm not overweight, my diet is clean, I exercise daily, I smoke but not to excess.....had blood tests and all is perfect. Why have I shrunk, and why am I completely impotent??? My fiancee is stunning, really really sexy. Why can I not get wood??

I'm starting to seriously consider surgery. I can't go on like this. I'm sorry that sounds so melodramatic, but this issue is ruining me.

I need this bathmate to work. And I honestly think I need counselling.

Everyone’s penis shrinks when it’s soft the way to enlarge your penis when it is flaccid is by doing exercises that will make that happen like keeping yourself elongated. The penis needs to learn how to remain a long gated because the natural state of the penis when it is soft is to shrivel.

I think a lot of what you’re going through is mental and obsessive. When something sticks in my head long enough we i start to imagine that it was a is real problem when it may just be psychological. Are you having these problems when you masturbate?
 
Everyone’s penis shrinks when it’s soft the way to enlarge your penis when it is flaccid is by doing exercises that will make that happen like keeping yourself elongated. The penis needs to learn how to remain a long gated

Stretches help, but it's the girth - or lack of - that's upsetting me. I've always been more grower than a shower, but blood isn't getting in. No morning wood, no nice hang after a hot bath......nada. I used to have a beautiful - if modest - hang. Not any more. This has only been really bad in the last few months, with no good days. I went through this in my early twenties and came out the other side, everything returned to normal but it lasted a few months. It's been about six months this time and no sign of improvement. eally worrying. And worrying doesn't help that kind of problem.

I am obsessed, and upset. I'm hiding all of this from my fiancee, of course, but I'm bordering on neurotic because she's going on vacation. My mind is telling me she loves me, but she's going to get some size while she's away. It's not even that she's not trustworthy - it's just me who's in a really bad place because of what's going on with my dick, and I'm so sorry to come back with all this negativity. I'm in a bad place right now and have nobody to talk to about it. It's gonna be a tough week, but i'm going to be doing PE faithfully and taking steps to change myself.
 
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Stretches help, but it's the girth - or lack of - that's upsetting me. I've always been more grower than a shower, but blood isn't getting in. No morning wood, no nice hang after a hot bath......nada. I used to have a beautiful - if modest - hang. Not any more. This has only been really bad in the last few months, with no good days. I went through this in my early twenties and came out the other side, everything returned to normal but it lasted a few months. It's been about six months this time and no sign of improvement. eally worrying. And worrying doesn't help that kind of problem.

I am obsessed, and upset. I'm hiding all of this from my fiancee, of course, but I'm bordering on neurotic because she's going on vacation. My mind is telling me she loves me, but she's going to get some size while she's away. It's not even that she's not trustworthy - it's just me who's in a really bad place because of what's going on with my dick, and I'm so sorry to come back with all this negativity. I'm in a bad place right now and have nobody to talk to about it. It's gonna be a tough week, but i'm going to be doing PE faithfully and taking steps to change myself.

You’re really overthinking this and putting yourself into a situation that you don’t need to be in. Can’t know what your wife’s going to do when she goes away, this is just projecting unless you guys have a marriage where you can sleep with other people. Has this issue cause your wife any problems? I’m asking if you’ve experienced this with masturbation because if you do not experience it with masturbation and only when you’re having sex it is most likely in obsessional problem. So is there are times outside of sex where you’re able to get 100% h has this issue cause your wife any problems? I’m asking if you’ve experienced this with masturbation because if you do not experience it with masturbation and only when you’re having sex it is most likely an obsessional problem. So is there are times outside of sex where you’re able to get 100% erect?
 
No. Not recently, as in the last few months. When I met my fiancee, i had sex on viagra to cheat myself a more impressive size. Now I can't get up without it. I can't get hard from watching adult entertainment or anything else for that matter. I feel a stirring in my loins like blood is trying to flow, and get maybe 50-60% hard on occasions but not enough to penetrate. Have had maybe three or four naturally occurring erections in about a year.

She doesn't know I take Viagra.

We are insanely in love, planning our wedding for October of this year, and both believe in 100% monogamy. I believe her but I doubt my own appeal. That's all. I look at myself and think "I'm a decent guy. Fairly good looking, I make her laugh, treat her well and I know she feels loved. Our sex life is explosive and she regularly tells me I'm the best sex she's ever had. But *I* feel like ai have a small dick, because I compare myself to pornstars and have ruined my own perception of size. And what woman wouldn't want the chance to sit on a bigger dick once in a while?"

She knows I hate my dick but she tells me I'm insane, and says incredible things about it. Nobody ever complimented a dick the way this girl compliments mine. But she asks me to whip it out a lot and I refuse because I'm small flaccid. She has never once complained or given the impression sex was anything less than fantastic. She says all the right things before, during and after. She has never once faked an orgasm. Physiological proof can't be faked, and you know it when you see it.

Yes. This is upwards of 50% a mental problem on my part. I've felt like this since I was very young. But I will never get over it. I have to grow. Just a inch, Lord. I swear to you, one inch and I will be the happiest man alive. I don't wanna be 8 or 9 x 6. I just want to have something I'm not afraid to get out.
 
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No. Not recently, as in the last few months. When I met my fiancee, i had sex on viagra to cheat myself a more impressive size. Now I can't get up without it. I can't get hard from watching adult entertainment or anything else for that matter. I feel a stirring in my loins like blood is trying to flow, and get maybe 50-60% hard on occasions but not enough to penetrate. Have had maybe three or four naturally occurring erections in about a year.

She doesn't know I take Viagra.

We are insanely in love, planning our wedding for October of this year, and both believe in 100% monogamy. I believe her but I doubt my own appeal. That's all. I look at myself and think "I'm a decent guy. Fairly good looking, I make her laugh, treat her well and I know she feels loved. Our sex life is explosive and she regularly tells me I'm the best sex she's ever had. But *I* feel like ai have a small dick, because I compare myself to pornstars and have ruined my own perception of size. And what woman wouldn't want the chance to sit on a bigger dick once in a while?"

She knows I hate my dick but she tells me I'm insane, and says incredible things about it. Nobody ever complimented a dick the way this girl compliments mine. But she asks me to whip it out a lot and I refuse because I'm small flaccid. She has never once complained or given the impression sex was anything less than fantastic. She says all the right things before, during and after. She has never once faked an orgasm. Physiological proof can't be faked, and you know it when you see it.

Yes. This is upwards of 50% a mental problem on my part. I've felt like this since I was very young. But I will never get over it. I have to grow. Just a inch, Lord. I swear to you, one inch and I will be the happiest man alive. I don't wanna be 8 or 9 x 6. I just want to have something I'm not afraid to get out.

I think that the 50% mental issue may be exasperated by the mental dependency on Viagra. Of course I can’t know exactly how much but even 50% is too much. but if Viagra helps you then there’s absolutely no issue, it’s doing it’s job. You just do not realize you can do it on your own.

I can relate because I became psychologically dependent upon it and I went off it for a few months just to prove that I was not dependent. It took a little while but eventually I realized I didn’t need the Viagra at all. So don’t worry too much on that.

I also think what you’re projecting from her mind I think he is probably off. Most people who are planning their wedding and are in love don’t go out for a bigger cock ? you’re worrying way too much.

Your Christian so you obviously understand that “ask and you shall receive” and if you believe it and it is righteous the Lord will deliver it. I think what you’re aiming for is easy! I made a 2 inch gain in six months, If I can do that you can easily do what you want to do. always ask God for those things you want and believe with all your heart and mind and body and soul and they shall be delivered.

How to get there is through using the best methods available. SRT delivers the fastest possible results and has been proven over and over again to be the best workout. Have a read through on SRT and let me know what you think. I can help you put a routine together to make it all happen, just let me know.

 
Thank you so much for the much-needed inspirational post, my brother! Fortunately it's not always going to be doom and gloom with me - had a fabulous session with the Bathmate a little while ago and getting unreal expansion. I did the way you recommended, 3x5 with SSJs in between, and maintained a great hang much longer afterward. My cock is a little bit purple and sore though - so I need to pull back just a tad on the pressure. I do not want discoloration or the donut. Such a same there's no gauge on these.
 
Thank you so much for the much-needed inspirational post, my brother! Fortunately it's not always going to be doom and gloom with me - had a fabulous session with the Bathmate a little while ago and getting unreal expansion. I did the way you recommended, 3x5 with SSJs in between, and maintained a great hang much longer afterward. My cock is a little bit purple and sore though - so I need to pull back just a tad on the pressure. I do not want discoloration or the donut. Such a same there's no gauge on these.

You are so welcome my Brother! I understand your cautious and that is smart. Increase time/intensity when you are ready. I am glad it’s not all bad and knowing your getting the 5x5x3 in and mastering is more good news.

For preventive skin protection like discoloring, stretch marks, bruising and side effects of the training the MOSred is the answer. Check it out.

 
I pretty much did that today and my cock came out like a fucking soda bottle. Never seen it look like that before. I was so happy!! I need to persevere with this if there is ANY chance of that becoming permanent. It was all fluid retention but wow, I felt amazing. Sore, but amazing.
 
I pretty much did that today and my cock came out like a fucking soda bottle. Never seen it look like that before. I was so happy!! I need to persevere with this if there is ANY chance of that becoming permanent. It was all fluid retention but wow, I felt amazing. Sore, but amazing.

You can’t really determine how much of it is water retention and I think you might be cheating yourself out of true tissue gains by saying that. I’m so happy to hear that you are making this method work but to make sure you keep it within the confines of SRT I suggest that you follow the 5×5×3 to be sure you’re seeing excellent tissue expansion. Congratulations though, it’s so awesome when we learn to use these tools the right way.
 
I could not believe the girth!

What are the positive indicators of growth with pumping, can anyone tell me what to look for?

Increased EQ and better flaccid hang, for longer periods after a session, seem like starters - but what are the signs to look out for further down the line as growth occurs and gains are being cemented?

I feel like I've hijacked this thread a little bit, sorry.
 
I could not believe the girth!

What are the positive indicators of growth with pumping, can anyone tell me what to look for?

Increased EQ and better flaccid hang, for longer periods after a session, seem like starters - but what are the signs to look out for further down the line as growth occurs and gains are being cemented?

I feel like I've hijacked this thread a little bit, sorry.

A positive indicator is continuous expansion beyond your normal girth. Overtime this number should get greater and greater as you cement current gains and make new ones. Your penis will begin to feel heavier, more weight. Due to heavier girth comes a longer flaccid length. EQ may actually suffer a bit at times but that is part of the process.
 
Boo for EQ suffering.

Another good session today, but the flaccid increase didn't last as long as yesterday.

Fiirst few sessions were a chore, but I find myself really enjoying it now. The feeling of the pump is good, and seeing the result is awesome. Dreaming of cementing that gain.
 
Boo for EQ suffering.

Another good session today, but the flaccid increase didn't last as long as yesterday.

Fiirst few sessions were a chore, but I find myself really enjoying it now. The feeling of the pump is good, and seeing the result is awesome. Dreaming of cementing that gain.

Cementing size is all about continuously training, forever reaching for bigger measurements. As you gain temporary size it will become permanent as you train and as it becomes permanent you’ll start to gain even more temporary size and so the process goes.
 
Good to know. Thanks DLD.

Say....is there a general consensus on how to utilise the Bathmate to achieve optimal growth?

As in, lower pressure for longer duration vs higher pressure for shorter duration?

I imagine the latter method is more likely to cause problems with your unit, in terms of discoloration, donut effect etc. But what's the science in terms of tissue growth etc? Can anyone provide info or links please? I would keen to develop a better understanding of what's going on down there.
 
Good to know. Thanks DLD.

Say....is there a general consensus on how to utilise the Bathmate to achieve optimal growth?

As in, lower pressure for longer duration vs higher pressure for shorter duration?

I imagine the latter method is more likely to cause problems with your unit, in terms of discoloration, donut effect etc. But what's the science in terms of tissue growth etc? Can anyone provide info or links please? I would keen to develop a better understanding of what's going on down there.


90% of the people that pump on this forum use the SRT 5×5×3 routine as it brings incredible tissue expansion with little to no water retention. Have a read through it and let me know what you think. Also take note of the healing measures in wearing a siliring after you train.
 
90% of the people that pump on this forum use the SRT 5×5×3 routine as it brings incredible tissue expansion with little to no water retention. Have a read through it and let me know what you think. Also take note of the healing measures in wearing a siliring after you train.

I have been using the 5x5x3 method thus far and have been getting increased expansion over the first week. Feel like I have incremental gain on the measurement every other day so far, and over the last couple of days, the increase in heaviness lasts longer out of the Bathmate.
 
Rings are good, my main problem is blood getting in and staying in. I wondered if I had veinous leakage of some kind but if I did, would the Viagra work?
 
Got a natural erection yesterday, no Viagra! Yeeeah!!! Put it to use, too!

I think part of this problem is definitely an over-reliance on Viagra.

Entering week three of pumping and it's going well, good expansion, flaccid hang looks a teeny bit longer but no noticeable change in girth as yet. Will wait until week 6 to measure and then we shall see.

Haven't had sex after a Bathmate session yet, that will be Tuesday. Excited to see how that goes.
 
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