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Well, plaque is a kind of build up "trash" in your veins, that everybody has to some degree, unless you are very young. This comes from poor diet, pollution etc. When you excersice you also manipulate your blood veins, making them better to deliver oxygen, removing co2 and remove some of this plaque. Now what BIB is sayins that, when you are manipulating the veins in your dick, you may dislodge some kind of "trash"/ plaque and that will result in insufficient plumbing, meaning less blood in your dick.
My results will come during this week, and I just hope, things will get better, but then again, it isn't the worst thing that could happen, young men die from cancer everyday, so if I have to take a blue pill, then I have to take a blue pill... Time will tell...





TheNextBIGThing said:
plaque in the penis? what is that exactly, sorry for being clueless here. It does seem many of us younger guys get these E.D. issues and those who are like 40+ or something like Pandora is the same age as me and it sounds like you may of experienced erection problems? Sorry if I am wrong there. I have noticed guys like 19 or 20 using Viagra and stuff on P.E. forums because P.E. seems to of exhausted their dicks, the fact is guys this age should not need them period. I honestly think men under (at least) 40 should not need Viagra, unless of course they have a very poor diet or/and are heavy on drinking alcohol and smoking then that may be possible but otherwise I think men should still not need to use it.

MrNilson I agree are situations are similar but luckily I do not think my issues are as serious as others I have seen no where near.

Do you know when the test results will come back?
 
Ah okay so how can someone tell their penis has plaque? If this is to do with bad circulation in the penis then I guess if someone had plaque in their penis, their penis would have a hard feel to it when flaccid (and not soft and spongy like it should be). This would give the penis a "turtled" effect I assume where the penis basically shrinks down a lot sort of like how when you would come out of a swimming pool where the penis looks really shrunk but it would feel hard flaccid. I noticed my temporary times at the gym that my penis shrunk a bit only for a short time though.
 
I have really no idea.. anyway, pandora brought it up, so maybe he knows. It's not something I am willing to risk at this point (B.T.B jelqs), maybe later.


TheNextBIGThing said:
Ah okay so how can someone tell their penis has plaque? If this is to do with bad circulation in the penis then I guess if someone had plaque in their penis, their penis would have a hard feel to it when flaccid (and not soft and spongy like it should be). This would give the penis a "turtled" effect I assume where the penis basically shrinks down a lot sort of like how when you would come out of a swimming pool where the penis looks really shrunk but it would feel hard flaccid. I noticed my temporary times at the gym that my penis shrunk a bit only for a short time though.
 
MrNilsen said:
When it comes to buzzing, hard to say, I have no idea what that means.
I can contact BIB, but can you tell your story about your ED?
How long did last? How did the erections feel? Did you get any kind of morning erections etc.. Also when did you notice benefits from B.T.B jelqs?
I may have plaque though, since I have tried high fat, low carb, several times for "fun", meaning I'm not fat etc...

I don't remember, not as good erection, not as high sex drive as I usually had and just stuff like that.

B.T.B makes my erection harder and makes them last longer, just makes blood flow better.
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
plaque in the penis? what is that exactly, sorry for being clueless here. It does seem many of us younger guys get these E.D. issues and those who are like 40+ or something don't it seems. Like Pandora is the same age as me and it sounds like you may of experienced erection problems? Sorry if I am wrong there. I have noticed guys like 19 or 20 using Viagra and stuff on P.E. forums because P.E. seems to of exhausted their dicks, the fact is guys this age should not need them period. I honestly think men under (at least) 40 should not need Viagra, unless of course they have a very poor diet or/and are heavy on drinking alcohol and smoking then that may be possible but otherwise I think men should still not need to use it.

MrNilson I agree are situations are similar but luckily I do not think my issues are as serious as others I have seen no where near.

Do you know when the test results will come back?

Another thing Pandora what is buzzing in the head of the penis, which I am guessing you are referring to? is that like a dull ache in the glands like sort of throbs a bit?

I never really had erection problems, they were just not as hard as I was use to.

hyperlite said:
there is a little bit of "buzzing". I havent been able to get that throbbing feeling since this happened. My staying power isnt the same and my penis feels softer all the time


Ok I hope this helps to solve your problem.

Hi guys, i found some very interesting posts from Bib:

"Please forgive me, I thought I remembered that, but lost it. Without proper (increased) circulation, you cannot see any gains which may have been made. If there is not an increase in the amount of blood, there is nothing to fill the larger space.

I have related many times the incident I had with jelqing behind my balls, the sudden electric zip to the head of my penis, and subsequent gains. My theory is, a piece of plaque broke loose and flew up my shaft, probably to lodge somewhere else. This allowed for greater blood flow, a better erection, and display of the gains made during previous work.

Phat has related a similar result doing horse squeezes. The reverse pressure and work seems to have opened up the blood bearing tissues further within his body, creating better erections and showing the gains made from hanging.

The penis is the one body part where manual angioplasty can be practiced, helping to clean out the vessels to allow for greater blood flow. Make sure you devote some time to doing this, not only on the outer penis, but also as far as possible within the body. It might really help. You might also try the horse squeezes."
Quoted from Bib


"Sensitivity

This will probably be another involved thread, but I think it is important. Probably my last one, but maybe it will help some guys.

It has always disturbed me when I hear about guys reporting numbness, or loss of sensitivity. Usually it is a breif bout. But it has happened to guys in the past, and then they tend to fade into the mist, never heard from again. Many times, I am sure it is due to bruised nerves or even worse. Back when guys were using a loop type device to hang with, it happened all the time. Simple over-training can be a culprit too, giving a symptom much like a chronic refractory response.

But I think there is a hidden reason for many guys that have experienced this. Recently, I worked with a member who had some chronic numbness. From his description, he felt he had damaged something while hanging, and had taken a good while off to allow for recovery. It did not recover much at all. Seldom has anyone complained of a lack of sensitivity while hanging, especially with a Bib, so I really worried about it.

So, we started communicating about what might be causing the problem. We looked at supplements to help heal damaged nerves, etc. But nothing seemed to cause a lasting increase in sensitivity. But all of our concentration was on the nerves. Big mistake.

So I started going over past PMs, looking for clues. He had also complained of a ‘buzzing’ feeling toward the head, and some wrinkling in the area. Also, he was able to get erections, but they were often weak and the head would not fill completely. Then it hit me.

I have reported this many times, but it might not be within these forums. One time, fairly early in my Penis Enlargement career, I was jelqing fairly lightly behind my balls. All of a sudden, I felt something race up my penis, obviously within the CS. It felt like lightening. Then, the same feeling raced down my penis, and into my body. It took a couple of seconds to realize that I had dislodged a piece of plaque within my blood vessel, and this former obstruction had made a trip through my plumbing. Without thinking too much, I expected to have a stroke in just a second. Heh heh.

Well, after re-reading the communications, the thought entered my head that this member’s problem might not be nerves at all. Or at least not directly. In much the same way your hand or foot can go to sleep when in a bind and with blood flow reduced, I realized that his penis was asleep.

When we perform almost any type of Penis Enlargement, the blood vessels of the penis are manipulated. Penis Enlargement is probably about the only time any blood vessels of the body can be so dramatically impacted. Just about everyone, except the very young has at least some plaque within the linings of the blood vessels. Usually, it is very tightly bound to the wall of the vessels. Unless of course, something occurs to dislodge this plaque.

Further, the penis is somewhat unique in the internal diameter of the vessels. The vessels feeding the penis are rather large, especially when erect, and then the return vessels narrow rapidly.

My theory was and is, if a piece of plaque of any significant size is dislodged, the odds of lodging somewhere to limit blood flow are high. Smaller pieces might pass on through without incident. Further, the vessels feeding and draining the CCs are probably not as important as the vessels feeding and draining the CS and head. While reduced blood flow in and from the CCs might cause some oxygen/nutrient deprivation to parts of the shaft, it would not be as bad as reduced blood flow and oxygen/nutrient loss to the nerves in the head of the penis.

So, thinking about it from a plumbing standpoint, the member needed to get the obstruction out. The first thing I recommended was to take a baby aspirin a day to thin the blood somewhat, and hopefully increase the ability to flow a little better. After a few days of aspirin, I recommended he start with light jelqing, moving onto heavier jelqing.

At some point, he was able to determine the blockage was in the CS, right where the head attaches. This is where the buzzing was. I thought the buzzing might be the obstruction fluttering within the blood stream. He also started manipulating that area in an attempt to break up the blockage. Then, he graduated to Ulis, engorging the shaft and head, then releasing the pressure and repeating many times.

Gradually at first, his sensitivity began to return, along with much better blood flow. I think the results were not dramatic because the nerves had been blood deprived for a long time and had to regenerate somewhat. While he had rested, he was actually starving the tissues. The only time the tissues were fully blood enriched is when he got an erection.

There are a variety of issues concerning this problem. First, being able to diagnose what has happened. Then, being able to take the plunge to do more Penis Enlargement, when it appears Penis Enlargement has caused the problem. Then, even if correctly diagnosed, being able to dislodge the blockage and get blood flowing again may not achieve very noticeable results right away. Probably the best thing would be a situation like I experienced where I could actually feel the obstruction as it traveled. But if the vessels are expanded, blood is thin, the blockage is broken up, it may occur slowly, a piece at a time.

I guess the best thing to do when a lack of sensitivity is noticed is write about it and thoroughly explore the symptoms before undertaking a cure. Did the lack of sensitivity occur quickly or over time? Is there an obvious lack of blood flow? Does the penis appear lighter in color? Is there any buzzing or other abnormal feelings associated with the numbness? You will not be able to simply assume any lack of sensitivity is associated with decreased blood flow. But I do not think you can assume it is a nerve issue either.

Bigger"
Quoted from Bib


@Bib

I wrote you an PM about this issue. Some time ago i wrote you an message where i tried to explain you some issues which happened to me when i was gaining.
This issues were very complicate to explain and i was not sure if you understood me.
Now i found some old postings from you, which i think may be explain the same issue i tried to explain you some month ago.
Please read my PM and look if it makes sense for you now.
 
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.
 
TheNextBIGThing said:
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.

I don't know I'm not a doctor:)
 
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?



TheNextBIGThing said:
Pandora could the lack of sensitivity becoming apparent be maybe to do with the nerve bundle below the glands are being damage with stretching/or hanging or at least then it gets injured so this could result in the nerves in the head dieing. So no or barely any sensitive feeling in the glands.
 
MrNilsen said:
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?

I never said I had bad erections, I said I had, about maybe a year and half ago not as strong erection as what I was use to.

All I can say to you is, if your penis does not get back to normal start doing Penis Enlargement and it will fix everything, yes maybe you will have to do if for the rest of your life but so what, it's worth it once you learn how to do things the right way, and learn about all the possible things that can be done.

Their is other Broads beside this one you know, try searching �other forum� for more on B.T.B jelqing.
 
How can you be so sure? You have been here for a long while, have you got any feedbacks from other people saying that Penis Enlargement worked for them, after Penis Enlargement gave them bad erections? It's like treating fire with fire, get my point? As for me going to thunderss, not going to happen, since I am banned. If you know any stories like mine, and that somebody got better better with Penis Enlargement, then please share it with us. I want to learn. I am not saying that I doubt you, I just need more than "trust me". I have searched many forums, there are no sunshine stories....




Pandora said:
I never said I had bad erections, I said I had, about maybe a year and half ago not as strong erection as what I was use to.

All I can say to you is, if your penis does not get back to normal start doing Penis Enlargement and it will fix everything, yes maybe you will have to do if for the rest of your life but so what, it's worth it once you learn how to do things the right way, and learn about all the possible things that can be done.

Their is other Broads beside this one you know, try searching �other forum� for more on B.T.B jelqing.
 
MrNilsen said:
I really think you have to go the urologists/ specialist. I am permanently more or less damaged in the penis from Penis Enlargement. This is no joke, it is very easy to do. Believe it or not, I read about one man that slept on stomach, got an erection, and noticed the next morning that his suspensory ligament was damaged and from that he got ED. Meaning no, morning erections, slow to arouse, needs ED meds. He wrote this on an uroligist forum after two months, and he had no improvement. I am going to a "shrink" tomorrow, simply because I need to learn how to live with this ED mentally, and a urologist will tell me what to do and what to take. Keep in mind that pandora is a young man, lucky with his Penis Enlargement, but he has no medical background, and if you search this forum you will see that many posts about their erections problems, the advice they get, is usually light jelqs, I haven't seen one post about anyone writing back, saying that it helped, in fact they never wrote back. My erections are now so spongy, that I really freak out. Pandora: this is for you: you say that B.T.B jelqs has helped you and many others? Well, when you say that you had bad erections, can you define, BAD? And, where are the others benefiting from B.T.B jelqs?

Yeah I just have a strong feeling that stretching the penis below the glands could cause sensitivity loss in the penis because when the stretches are done you have to pull under the glands which is where the nerve bundle is. Now I maybe wrong here but I assume if the nerve bundle is damaged so is the dick and it's sensitivity, resulting in numb glands etc.

I feel pretty stupid now because I do no think my erection issues is really serious, but I just wish it would not take a few days to get good erections after ejaculating and that the head would fill up fully. The rest I put it down to mental issues with my erections or/and exhaustion.

Provider, Orbital, hope and Tbirdy are the most notable people on these forums with bad E.D. but you are right unfortunately there has been no updates on their situation or any new posts. I take it things haven't improved for them. Doing more jelqing would surely make things worse? for those with E.D.

MrNilson I honestly hope things will improve for you and your situation I saw a shrink too when I was very young, depression mainly It did help a bit for me because I would bottle up my feels (actually I still do really). Talking to someone may help but does not do it for everyone.

Keep us update with things. All the best.:)
 
I'm not really that down, I just need some hints on how to think more positive and stear away from any thoughts that may cause depression. If I have to jelq for the rest of my life to get my hard erections back, then fuck it, I will do it, I just need some "proof". I haven't seen one guy on any forums, going two months without a descent erection, then starting to jelq and suddenly hard erections are back. Pandora: Again, if you have knowledge about this, then show us the feedbacks from these guys, you may help alot of people here...
 
the best way is to kegel, both reverse and normal. get that down and stop Penis Enlargement for a bit. just kegel and everything until you notice you can get hard again. then make sure to warm up once you start Penis Enlargement again, take your time, stay with baic jelquing. i have the same problem sometimes. if i Penis Enlargement then don't kegel afterwards or keep up with it, then i can't get a decent hard on. also i suggest taking some Vitamin E. it keeps the blood flow going throughout the body, and is suggested in sex books..like the kama sutra...to take on a daily basis because it keeps the blood flow going to the genitals and makes harder erections. so stop Penis Enlargementing for a bit, try the vitamins and kegel. see if it helps.
 
I have been resting for two months, almost no masturbation, and no morning woods. When Penis Enlargement got me into this mess, and Penis Enlargement can get me out of it. Then, yes I could try again, but, my erections are spongy, they have never been this weak before. My flaccid is way bigger and feels "dead". I didn't notice ED during my Penis Enlargement session. only after, so, if it's Penis Enlargement for life, then I will fuck everything out there if I get my erections back, since no-one has a real long term study of this, could make thing short term you know..
Pandora: Yes, I might bother you here, that's what mods are for, please give me any sites reffering to a similar experience like mine. If you concvince me to start up back again, and I get my erections back, I wold be forever greatfull.


samzman said:
the best way is to kegel, both reverse and normal. get that down and stop Penis Enlargement for a bit. just kegel and everything until you notice you can get hard again. then make sure to warm up once you start Penis Enlargement again, take your time, stay with baic jelquing. i have the same problem sometimes. if i Penis Enlargement then don't kegel afterwards or keep up with it, then i can't get a decent hard on. also i suggest taking some Vitamin E. it keeps the blood flow going throughout the body, and is suggested in sex books..like the kama sutra...to take on a daily basis because it keeps the blood flow going to the genitals and makes harder erections. so stop Penis Enlargementing for a bit, try the vitamins and kegel. see if it helps.
 
if you say that you have pain in the base of your penis, then the problem is likely to be nerve damage.

They rely heavily on Acetylcholine to work right.

Another indicator that you might be missing Acetylcholine is your erection angle being downward.

So maybe you should try getting some supplements with Choline. Which you can find in high quality multi-vitamin/mineral formulas or in mood or memory enhancing supplements.

To convert choline to acetylcholine faster, vitamin B5 as well as a bit of Vitamin C is needed.

Just remembered that I had this in a book somewhere. And hell, if I can help out, then it's definitely worth it :) Got other stuff in the book if this doesn't end up working.
 
I'm guessing nerve damage as well, my erection angle are fine, but the shaft doesn't fill up with blood so it feels spongy. I am taking x brand of supplements. I may or may not, recover from this, since this is a long term injury, and absolutely no amount of jelqs are going to help, be it behind the balls or whatever. I have seen B.T.B jelqs recommended to guys that suffer like me on this forum, do they write back? Nope, aint gonna happen. Me writing here is clearly to say to all newbies out there, that Penis Enlargement is extremely risky business, so if you are not ready for the mental torture, then don't do it. I have messed around with pe before, but only a much lighter routine than on the newbie routine recommended here. I didn't experince any grotwth, but my staying power increased. Now that I am injured, I have been searching the web, and believe me, there are many that is/ was in the same boat as me. Even if the risks are lower than 1%, think about it, would you risk it?
 
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
 
edwardo said:
Thought I would chip in after reading this very interesting thread. I jelqued 2 years ago now and it led to ED and numbness. My dick has recovered in stages and I now get reasonable wood and can orgasm alright. The head of my penis does not get properly hard as it used to and the upper part of my penis is quite numb. My orgasms are also much weaker than they were before.

I am certain this is down to jelquing but i did over-do it a little. A couple of months ago the sensetivity came back to my penis and it was near-normal again and i was overjoyed, but now it has deteriorated again and is quite numb/ shit orgasms. WHY? It does give me hope that it seemed to recover so is maybe fixable?

I am trying taking viagra every evening to see if this can cure my ED and will report on results as I go along. Can anyone suggest anything for increasing my penis sensetivity/strength of orgasms though, apart from jelqs? What are B.T.B jelqs - what's the difference?

I would like to stay in touch with you guys to swap experiences.

Ed
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumnew/newbie-forum/25521-loss-blood-when-gettin-bsuy.html
 
Pandora, you got to understand. We have damage somewehere, in our dicks.
There is no cure or jelq that is going to fix this, only time and healing, and maybe, just maybe, our dicks wil function somewhat better. Think logic here, OK??
 
MrNilsen said:
Pandora, you got to understand. We have damage somewehere, in our dicks.
There is no cure or jelq that is going to fix this, only time and healing, and maybe, just maybe, our dicks wil function somewhat better. Think logic here, OK??

The guy asked how to do B.T.B jeqling, in that link is an illustration.
 
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