Bathmate and Newbies, How to Make Huge Gains Fast!

Spare;691546 said:
I got my Bathmate today and would like to know whether the newbie routine is suitable.

I have over a year experience in manual stretches and jelqing where I gained maybe 0.5" length.

I have also used the sizegenetics and phallosan for a few months each with no success at zero gains.

Should I leave out the bathmate stretches for the meantime and stick to the manual stretches. Also should I use my BM in a semi state as opposed to erect in the first couple of weeks.

The routine I had in mind was:

- Manual stretches (various angles 30 seconds each)
- 100 to 150 jelqs
- 5 mins in Bath mate
- Repeat jelqs and Bathmate twice more to total 15 in the Bathmate.
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Hello Spare, I hope I can help. Since you have all of the proper equipment and some experience under your belt I would go for the SRT Routine. This will utilize everything you have and show you the best way to use what you have and how to combine it is certain ways to cause greater gains. Have a read through SRT and let me know what you think. I can help you modify the routine if necessary.
 
I would like to stick to a bathmate/jelq/manual stretches routine. Don't want to use SG or PF ever again (really dislike them especially the SG).

The updated routine I had in mind was:

- Bundle stretches (1 rotation at the moment for 30 each direction)
- __________ stretches I recently found out about (30 seconds each direction)
- Standard stretches (30 seconds each direction)
- 100 jelqs
- 5 mins Bathmate at 60% erection for first 2 weeks progressing to a fuller erection after
- 100 jelqs
- 5 mins Bathmate
- 100 jelqs
- 5 mins Bathmate (15 mins BM total)
- Apply cock ring after (but I'm not sure how long I should keep it on for)

Does that routine sound ok for my current "experience"?
 
doublelongdaddy;691496 said:
Red spots are very normal and will always go away in 24 hours. Bigger bruising can become permanent if you do not practice good warm ups and warm downs. A good warm up would be Bundled Stretched for 5 minutes, these will prime your penis to accept larger gains. After your workout using a hot compress and deep tissue massage for 5 minutes will eliminate much of these issues.
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So I can pump even if I have red dots? I don't want to fuk my dick. Also, my EQ is worste since I started pumping... What can I do to increase my EQ and also stay erect longer.

thanks
 
You could take it easy and maybe try doing your girth routine every other day.
When you're fatigued it's a great time to get length in.

[video=youtube;z1Xju9xU1i8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Xju9xU1i8[/video]
 
split98;691649 said:
So I can pump even if I have red dots? I don't want to fuk my dick. Also, my EQ is worste since I started pumping... What can I do to increase my EQ and also stay erect longer.

thanks
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Great video to post Munto

Red dots are normal and will go away after a few hours. Proper warm ups and warm downs will help prevent this. EQ issues are usually due to weak pelvic floor muscles or fatigue. If you are doing a proper Kegel routine it will most likely be fatigue. Fatigue is good is a way as it is the best time to stretch the penis as the penis will not hold back due to being fatigued. But, if you are not doing Kegels you need to start now as if you grow without increasing the strength of the Pelvic Floor Muscles your erection will become weaker and weaker. A bigger penis demands more blood and the ability to hold that blood...KEGELS!
 
doublelongdaddy;691496 said:
I would follow the SRT way of Pumping to make the best gains. It will also fit into your 30 minute schedule. Basically it is 5 Minutes in BathMate at 100% intensity, pull out and do 5 minutes of SlowSquashJelqs and then repeat 3 times for a total of 30 minutes.
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In the srt routine, it's jelq first than bathmate. Does it make any difference if you start with jelq instead of bathmate? Also, what would you recommand for length? any good routine? thanks
 
After a Bathmate session I immediately apply the Bathmate "Gladiator" cock ring at the base. How long should I keep it on for? At the moment I have it on for about 30 mins after finishing. Should I keep it on for up to 60 mins, then after that apply a looser cock ring (cheap ebay one) for the rest of the day as the Bathmate one I quite tight.
 
I would say the first 30-60min maybe even up to two hours after any workout are the most important ones.
That said, you can keep yourself expanded by repumping whenever you can - ideally every 30-60min
 
split98;692263 said:
In the srt routine, it's jelq first than bathmate. Does it make any difference if you start with jelq instead of bathmate? Also, what would you recommand for length? any good routine? thanks
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Makes no difference. I go in the BathMate for 5 minutes than SlowSquashJelq after that and repeat 3-4 times.
 
My routine at the moment is:

Morning routine:
4x __________ stretches (30 seconds each)
Bundle stretches in all 9 directions (30 seconds hold with at least 360 rotation)
A and V type stretches in all 9 directions (30 second holds each)
Bathmate stretches at max pump (5 mins)
Slow squash jelqs (min 2 minutes)
Bathmate at max pump (5 mins)
Slow squash jelqs (min 2 mins)
Bathmate at max pump (5 mins)
Apply official Bathmate cock ring for at least 30 mins after

Evening bathroom routine:
Bathmate max pump (5 mins)
SSJ 2 mins
Bathmate max pump (5mins)
SSJ 2 mins
Bathmate max pump (5 mins)
Apply cock ring for 30 mins

I also do the kegel routine shown on here at some point in the day (not sure if they have to done straight after the Bathmate).

Could anyone suggest ways to improve on my current routine, I can't really spend more time in the bathroom especially in the morning. Also I started doing the SSJ to replace standard jelqing, will the SSQ help or hinder length gains (very important to me) as it involved some compression.

Lastly what I the best position to do the kegels (sitting/standing/lying down) and should the routine (100 followed by 50 x 5 seconds) be done more than once a day?
 
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Spare;692416 said:
I also do the kegel routine shown on here at some point in the day (not sure if they have to done straight after the Bathmate).

Could anyone suggest ways to improve on my current routine, I can't really spend more time in the bathroom especially in the morning. Also I started doing the SSJ to replace standard jelqing, will the SSQ help or hinder length gains (very important to me) as it involved some compression.

Lastly what I the best position to do the kegels (sitting/standing/lying down) and should the routine (100 followed by 50 x 5 seconds) be done more than once a day?
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Look good my Brother. I would add in two exercises to perfect this routine. 3 times per week for 5-10 minutes get in erect stretching. Also, wishing your length routine I suggest getting in some Expressive Stretches, these are explained in SRT and there are many ways to do them.

As far as Kegels go you can do them in any position and the more you do the better. The idea behind Kegels are 3 fold, strength, endurance and taking on a bigger size.
 
Munto;692479 said:
And maybe some way to exhaust the PC muscle before length
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Fastest way to fatigue is post-orgasm. For approximately 20-60 minutes fatigue can occur through the refractory period.
 
doublelongdaddy;692366 said:
Makes no difference. I go in the BathMate for 5 minutes than SlowSquashJelq after that and repeat 3-4 times.
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ok so how can I incorporate stretching and girth work in the same 30 min session? is it enough to make gains? I dont have time for an AM/PM session
 
split98;692576 said:
ok so how can I incorporate stretching and girth work in the same 30 min session? is it enough to make gains? I dont have time for an AM/PM session
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How about concentrating on either length or girth at the moment?
You can get in a solid length or girth workout in 30min, but with both, the chance is pretty high that you are going to skip over stuff.

Take the newbie routine for example, all in all that one should take you about 30min and after probably about 4 weeks conditioning you can add in bundled stretches and erect (bundled) stretches.
But this might not be enough for you depending on your experience/gains you made so far.

How long have you been doing PE?
 
Spare;692416 said:
My routine at the moment is:

Morning routine:
4x __________ stretches (30 seconds each)
Bundle stretches in all 9 directions (30 seconds hold with at least 360 rotation)
A and V type stretches in all 9 directions (30 second holds each)
Bathmate stretches at max pump (5 mins)
Slow squash jelqs (min 2 minutes)
Bathmate at max pump (5 mins)
Slow squash jelqs (min 2 mins)
Bathmate at max pump (5 mins)
Apply official Bathmate cock ring for at least 30 mins after

Evening bathroom routine:
Bathmate max pump (5 mins)
SSJ 2 mins
Bathmate max pump (5mins)
SSJ 2 mins
Bathmate max pump (5 mins)
Apply cock ring for 30 mins

I also do the kegel routine shown on here at some point in the day (not sure if they have to done straight after the Bathmate).

Could anyone suggest ways to improve on my current routine, I can't really spend more time in the bathroom especially in the morning. Also I started doing the SSJ to replace standard jelqing, will the SSQ help or hinder length gains (very important to me) as it involved some compression.

Lastly what I the best position to do the kegels (sitting/standing/lying down) and should the routine (100 followed by 50 x 5 seconds) be done more than once a day?
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I am looking to optimise my routine as its taking too long especially in the morning (I live with other people). Ideally I would like to cut out any unnecessary parts.

In terms of experience I have done the "standard" stretches and jelqs for probably a year in the past. When doing these stretches after the bundled stretches I don't feel much benefit. I was thinking of doing a few more __________ stretches as I feel a good stretch with these. Also before Bathmate stretches I could do maybe 5 mins of the srt sizeblasters to focus on length (I assume this will benefit me more than standard stretches based on my exp).

Also with the sizeblasters I use an overhand reverse grip (thumb towards me) below the glans with the same type grip at the base. I then pull the glans when erect and try to push my other hand as far into the base as possible for at 1 min per rep. Is that correct?

Lastly is it okay to use a cock ring (Bathmate gladiator) when doing the SSQs in between BM sets. I clamp off the base just above where I place the cock ring.
 
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Munto;692719 said:
How about concentrating on either length or girth at the moment?
You can get in a solid length or girth workout in 30min, but with both, the chance is pretty high that you are going to skip over stuff.

Take the newbie routine for example, all in all that one should take you about 30min and after probably about 4 weeks conditioning you can add in bundled stretches and erect (bundled) stretches.
But this might not be enough for you depending on your experience/gains you made so far.

How long have you been doing PE?
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I'm fairly new to PE. I only did a few weeks off the JP Beginner Routine and it took too much time. So I bought a bathmate to save time but after like 3 weeks I was starting to get red dots and I stopped because they reappear everytime I pump. I don't know what to do. They started with a redish color but now they are purplish so I'm kinda worry.
 
split98;692788 said:
I'm fairly new to PE. I only did a few weeks off the JP Beginner Routine and it took too much time. So I bought a bathmate to save time but after like 3 weeks I was starting to get red dots and I stopped because they reappear everytime I pump. I don't know what to do. They started with a redish color but now they are purplish so I'm kinda worry.
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Like I said take a look at the MOS newbie routine.
Red dots can be normal after a girth session with the BM, but should be gone within 12-48h.
But it might be too soon for you to go into a full BM routine.

Maybe use it on a lighr pump as a warm-up/down?
Which one did you get?
How have you been using it?
 
Munto;692719 said:
How about concentrating on either length or girth at the moment?
You can get in a solid length or girth workout in 30min, but with both, the chance is pretty high that you are going to skip over stuff.

Take the newbie routine for example, all in all that one should take you about 30min and after probably about 4 weeks conditioning you can add in bundled stretches and erect (bundled) stretches.
But this might not be enough for you depending on your experience/gains you made so far.

How long have you been doing PE?
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endorse!
 
Munto;693004 said:
Like I said take a look at the MOS newbie routine.
Red dots can be normal after a girth session with the BM, but should be gone within 12-48h.
But it might be too soon for you to go into a full BM routine.

Maybe use it on a lighr pump as a warm-up/down?
Which one did you get?
How have you been using it?
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I got the bathmate x30. I started with 3x5min for 2 weeks, then 2x10 then 3x6 with full erection. I used it for a month. You think it will be better to do manual stretching only for a month before using bathmate again? Also, how do you perform the behind the cheeks stretch?

thanks
 
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