doublelongdaddy;745921 said:
I went to an all back school in DC. The shower room was one large room with like 20 shower heads. After gym we would all shower and I was just as big as every other guy there, no one stuck out more than the other and this was all black men. I never had this complex because most of my life I spent among black people, growing up, in school, after school, parties, etc. I did not fit in well with the white kids. Anyway, with all my first hand experience I would say that there is no difference between the two but in rare, extreme cases. If the myth were true we would have more than 5 black ���� actors.

Well, your experience was certainly different from mine. I still have difficulty figuring out how the only 2 black guys I saw naked had the biggest dicks I've ever seen. Maybe if one did and the other was average, I might have had a different take on the matter. But again, my sister in law insisted they were bigger, and she was a hooker. By the way, she is now in her mid-sixties and married to a black guy. Regardless, I am not going to let this "complex" ruin my life any further. What's done is done, and my focus now is to improve to the best of my ability with the tools at hand, tools which did not exist for the majority of my PE career. You, DLD, are responsible for so many of the innovations now available. Thank you for that. I just wish they had been available in my 20's or 30's. Ah well, I may still go to my grave with a 10 incher and a smile on my face :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;745891 said:
Fillerup, I feel you my brother. Along with our fearless leader, Mike we're of similar age/demographic and our formative years were pre-internet so much of the information we had to work with was either first-hand (which was very limited) or anecdotal (which was prone to exaggeration), so our body of work (so to speak) was too narrow for an adequate representation of the truth. The fact that you've only witnessed 2 black men naked is probably more a testament of those two being 'loud and proud' and on display while the more average would be less overt (just a hunch). What I'm trying to say is that our sample-size was grossly under-represented and the only people that you heard about were either the 1% or an embellishment (often women's perceptions are skewed by expectation vs. fact).

My entire adult sex-life has also been 'pressurized' to meet some ideal out there that I manufactured in my head, so in many ways not knowing the truth about size/race/etc. created a fictitious goal/target that I'd never be able to reach...my 3 years here at MOS has helped me be better informed, but old habits a truly tough to break.

Thank you for trusting us and sharing what had to have been some deeply painful memories and how those events have shaped you even today...we're here to heal as well as grow :)

Thanks for the kind words, Big. I didn't know there were many, if any, men on this site in my age group (assuming you and Mike are at or near 60). But you're right, old habits and self-perception die hard, and I still struggle with inadequacy, despite knowing that from all available studies, I'm considerably larger than average. As far as the two black guys I saw, I don't think they were "loud and proud" and on display. After all, the first guy was alone in the shower, and the other guy was in a change room naked with a whole bunch of white guys, none of which were close in size to him. Again, coincidence? But I'm trying to let that all be water under the bridge. Nothing I can do about it anyway. IF black men are bigger on average, then that is what is so. My ex-wife, by the way, is now married to a hispanic man and living in San Diego. She has become a born again evangelical Christian, and I suspect penis size is now totally irrelevant to her. She totally fucked up my life and sense of self worth, but she's doing fine. Nice! Maybe in the next world, she will see the effect she had on my life. Same applies to her sister, who started this whole bloody thing. Maybe if her sister had never come, things might have been totally different. But again, water under the bridge.
 
Fillerup;745975 said:
Well, your experience was certainly different from mine. I still have difficulty figuring out how the only 2 black guys I saw naked had the biggest dicks I've ever seen. Maybe if one did and the other was average, I might have had a different take on the matter. But again, my sister in law insisted they were bigger, and she was a hooker. By the way, she is now in her mid-sixties and married to a black guy. Regardless, I am not going to let this "complex" ruin my life any further. What's done is done, and my focus now is to improve to the best of my ability with the tools at hand, tools which did not exist for the majority of my PE career. You, DLD, are responsible for so many of the innovations now available. Thank you for that. I just wish they had been available in my 20's or 30's. Ah well, I may still go to my grave with a 10 incher and a smile on my face :)

Never too old to put a smile on your face! I can understand you situation and I am sorry this affected you in this way. I just never saw a difference and it was a very large school with many students and hand to God, they were all about the same. With every race there will be anomalies but with black men it is much bigger stigma and they suffer more than their counterparts. Black men are expected to be huge and the facts are they share the same averages as their counterparts. So a white man has much less pressure than a black man in sex.
 
doublelongdaddy;746045 said:
So a white man has much less pressure than a black man in sex.

I wouldn't say 'less' pressure, I'd say it's just a different kind of pressure. We're living in a Fem-centric society where we're not only in charge of our orgasm, we are also responsible for her pleasure as well (fair or not).

I'd implore Mrs. Dread to chime-in here, but I've heard on more than a few occasions where women will actively seek-out a black man for the sole purpose 'that experience'. So in this regard, a black man would need to 'live-up' to the stereotype and thus have the pressure of his entire race on is back to perform. I've also had discussions with my black and mixed-race friends and they'll freely admit that when they're with a white girl, they'll do everything they can to perpetuate the myth.
Back in my early 20's I dated a black girl and she mentioned that I wasn't as big as her previous BF, (I let this gnaw-away at me to the point of sabotaging the relationship). So add another scar on the path to find MOS, lol.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;746048 said:
I wouldn't say 'less' pressure, I'd say it's just a different kind of pressure. We're living in a Fem-centric society where we're not only in charge of our orgasm, we are also responsible for her pleasure as well (fair or not).

I'd implore Mrs. Dread to chime-in here, but I've heard on more than a few occasions where women will actively seek-out a black man for the sole purpose 'that experience'. So in this regard, a black man would need to 'live-up' to the stereotype and thus have the pressure of his entire race on is back to perform. I've also had discussions with my black and mixed-race friends and they'll freely admit that when they're with a white girl, they'll do everything they can to perpetuate the myth.
Back in my early 20's I dated a black girl and she mentioned that I wasn't as big as her previous BF, (I let this gnaw-away at me to the point of sabotaging the relationship). So add another scar on the path to find MOS, lol.

What I mean to say is the a black man is expected to be huge due to legend and when he does not measure up to this legendary status he suffers more than a white man where there is no expectation. The sad part is average penis size is across the board and all men should be treated equally, but black men are not, they are expected to be huge.
 
This is quite true and it must play doubly so for the black man that's average or below.

If we have any members here that have struggled w/this, I'm sure it would be helpful for you to share with The Brotherhood your experience(s).
 
doublelongdaddy;746160 said:
What I mean to say is the a black man is expected to be huge due to legend and when he does not measure up to this legendary status he suffers more than a white man where there is no expectation. The sad part is average penis size is across the board and all men should be treated equally, but black men are not, they are expected to be huge.

I was a state and national calibre athlete growing up as a black teen. By the time I was 14, I was 6 foot 1 200 pounds with an 8 pack. I was around a lot of sexually curious female athletes growing up and friends would always joke about how huge I must be and how good I was in bed. To be honest this didn't really scar me but it kept me humble. I didn't want to show them how inexperienced I was so I stayed a virgin until a couple months before I turned 20. I knew I wasn't large for my size but I was OK with living with what I had. I wasn't sad or depressed.

So I started off with below 7 inches in length and just below 5 inches girth (so like 4.9ish). Not bad right? Well I also had 28 inch thighs and my hands are 8.5 inches long. Regardless of how big I was compared to average, I felt like I was on the smaller side with my body size but again I didn't care too much. Just thought penis size was luck of the draw and lived with what I had. Lost my virginity to my GF who was also a virgin and only had sex with her until I was 24. I soon became petrified to have sex with someone who already experienced other guys when sex and penis size were on my mind more often.

Technically my GF lost her virginity to my fingers instead of my penis. I remember after having sex for the first time expecting to see a lot of blood and have her in crazy pain. Lol she was like "that wasn't bad at all! I don't know what these girls complain about". I thought "DAMNIT, I probably didn't get the right angle....yeah that's it...". One day my GF mad a comment about my penis size feeling smaller than usual and THAT ladies and gents is how you give a man a complex single handedly.
 
I guess we should consider ourselves lucky to have found a place to explore/vent these feelings along with growing our johnsons :)
 
My God, I remember being convinced to use Magnum condoms and having to hold them on during sex or else they would slip right off. You guys are just bringing back all the 🍑peachy 🍑 memories huh?! 🧐
 
Lol yes I've been healing and growing. DLD is right though.
BSA I'm not sure if you know this but your turning into an MoS monstar. I did some metrics on your stats. When your fully pumped and erect, you have enough blood between your legs to almost fill a litre bag of milk 🤣. I'm thinking about turning into an MoS monstar myself
 
Egghed;746183 said:
Lol yes I've been healing and growing. DLD is right though.
BSA I'm not sure if you know this but your turning into an MoS monstar. I did some metrics on your stats. When your fully pumped and erect, you have enough blood between your legs to almost fill a litre bag of milk 🤣. I'm thinking about turning into an MoS monstar myself

Is that why an erection gets me a bit light-headed? lol
 
Egghed;746183 said:
Lol yes I've been healing and growing. DLD is right though.
BSA I'm not sure if you know this but your turning into an MoS monstar. I did some metrics on your stats. When your fully pumped and erect, you have enough blood between your legs to almost fill a litre bag of milk 🤣. I'm thinking about turning into an MoS monstar myself

Big is the bathmate king!!
 
beardedbaldy;746203 said:
Big is the bathmate king!!

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The __________ Complex
From Drumline Magazine

The real reason why black men are hardly ever seen in sex shops has little to do with a deep-seated respect for women. Nor is it to do with a strict moral upbringing, argues Shirley Brooks, as she goes out in search of the answers.

Dildos surround me. Dildos of various sizes, shapes and colours, battery powered vibrators, a vibrating handheld vagina. Packets containing blow-up sex dolls, novelty foreplay cards, penis shaped scented candles, 36GG mounds of white chocolate with dark chocolate nipples, bulging off the shelves. Surrounding these exhibits, walls made up of rows upon rows of videos clinically divided into specific genres.

I’m in a Soho sex shop. Two Asian men in sharp business suits and matching side partings hover around the ‘bondage’ section, complaining loudly to a shop assistant that there isn’t anything ‘dark’ enough for them. Several white men of varying ages and social backgrounds scan the aisles. Two young white women step inside to banter with the manager. People from seemingly all walks of life have walked into Pirate of Soho to buy sex toys and videos. But there is something missing.

In all the hours I’ve stood hovering around the shop floor I have witnessed the cautious entrance and swift exit of only one black man. “Black men don’t come in as often as our white customers do. And the ones that do come in don’t buy much,” I’m told by Lamar, the Congolese manager. “Black men ask for condoms, aphrodisiacs and magazines. They don’t usually buy toys.”

Earlier conversations with male friends produced the same information. Most swore to me that they had never stepped foot inside a sex shop. Solomon*, a 26-year-old Jamaican, said: ‘I’ve been in a sex shop about three times. I probably wouldn’t tell my black friends about it though.’ Another friend told me that he had been forced into one by an old girlfriend and had merely bought a jar of chocolate body paint to appease her. A third had entered the forbidden room on a dare with his friends and had not been tempted to buy. No one would admit to buying anything more shocking than a video ‘for a laugh.’

I rest my notepad on the counter next to a terrifyingly large black rubber penis. Seventeen inches long and 4-inches thick, the giant phallus dominates the shop counter, casting a heavy shadow across the white pages. I stare at my notes drawing a blank as to the reasons why black men stay away from sex shops. And then I realise that the answer is already lying on my page. Or at least the shadow cast by its full 17 inches of rubber is.

The reason many black men do not frequent, or do not admit to frequenting, Soho’s brightest and best sex shops has little to do with a deeply harboured respect for women. Nor is it to do with strict morals drummed into their heads by an older generation. The real reason is less noble and goes much deeper than one would expect. The simple fact is that sex shops sell sexual aids. And a sexual aid is the last thing that a black man needs if he is suffering from the latter stages of the __________ Complex.

Allow me to elaborate; what I call the __________ Complex is the adherence to a myth that emerged out of the twisted ideologies current brought about by the Atlantic slave trade. During slavery the legend regarding the West African __________ tribes was that their men were statuesque bucks, virile, potent, and desired by the wives of slave owners. Advertising a slave as being a __________ was a sure way of raising a large fee at the selling blocks and thus the name __________ became associated with outstanding strength and intense sexual prowess and stamina.

In the seventies, the film __________ further solidified the image of the sexually superior black buck. Contemporary black films, music videos, rap lyrics and stereotypes, all reinforce the belief that there is something saucily unique about the black male. Endowed with agility, natural rhytHydromax, and an overwhelmingly large manhood, the sexuality of black males is the stuff of cultural legend and urban myths.

The fact that the humungous dildo, standing proudly alongside the till, is black is surely not a coincidence. The myth of the raw untainted sexual potency of the black man embodied in the novelty penis is simultaneously a subject of pride and envy as well as a heavy burden for the average black man to carry between his legs.

There is evidently a lot of pressure on black men to fulfil expectations in the bedroom. The majority of the men I spoke to told me that they would never buy a sex toy for their partner as it would be an affront to their manhood and bedroom ability. Anthony*, a 22-year-old political science student felt that buying a vibrator for his girlfriend “would be saying a lot on my part that I can’t provide in bed so she needs a substitute.” Theodore, one of the shop assistants, confessed that despite making a living selling sex toys, he himself as a black man would not use a sexual aid as he had no need. Grinning broadly he informed me, “My partners are satisfied.”

Solomon summed it up for me. “Black men are supposed to be good in bed. Big dicks; good movers. There’s more pressure on a black man in the bedroom than there is for a white man. Rap music and soul singers croon about sex and how good they are in the sack so people think that we are super-studs. Some black guys even try to live up to it. Buying a dildo would be admitting defeat.” For some men it is important to fulfil the __________ image. According to Theodore, black male customers will happily purchase penis enlarger pumps, Viagra and other concoctions to “make their dick happen.”

The __________ myth has left a historical legacy of high expectations upon today’s black male. There is pressure from music, pressure from stereotypes, pressure from themselves, pressure from received folk wisdoms like, “once you go black you never go back”. References to BathmateWs as ‘Black Man’s Willies’ give a whole new take on the luxury car as a penis extension.

Such advertisements and endorsements make it even more crucial for a black man to do what it says on the packet and completely satisfy his woman in bed. With all of these pressures it’s a wonder that black men are actually brave enough to get into under the sheets.

Theodore finally serves his first Nubian customer of the day. As the solitary black man puts the condoms he has purchased into his briefcase and prepares to step out into the Soho streets his eyes meet mine. A guilty expression flitters across his face for a split second, as if he had been caught out in the middle of a lie.
 
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I dont mind big pussy flaps

Do you mean the roast beef looking shit up the sticks all out of the vagina LOL, that is not my thing! I’d like a tiny little line that’s it a little line?
 
I will say this. I am black. I started researching PE when I was 16 (2005'ish) because I ran a train on a girl with my friends.

She told me I wasn't doing shit (she literally beatboxed as I was fucking her to signal that my dick wasn't shit). On top of that, I came fast because it was the first time I fucked a girl with the type of ass that I liked and her pussy was wet as hell.

I nearly came on penetration because it was my third time having sex ever and my first time ever raw dogging a pussy that wet. Then my friends went after me and she was screaming like she was being killed. My dick was 5.75 nbp at the time.

Top 3 most embarrassing moments of my life.
 
I will say this. I am black. I started researching PE when I was 16 (2005'ish) because I ran a train on a girl with my friends.

She told me I wasn't doing shit (she literally beatboxed as I was fucking her to signal that my dick wasn't shit). On top of that, I came fast because it was the first time I fucked a girl with the type of ass that I liked and her pussy was wet as hell.

I nearly came on penetration because it was my third time having sex ever and my first time ever raw dogging a pussy that wet. Then my friends went after me and she was screaming like she was being killed. My dick was 5.75 nbp at the time.

Top 3 most embarrassing moments of my life.
I’m so happy that you will never have to feel that embarrassment again now that you have found the brotherhood. It makes no difference how big your penis was in the past and anything somebody said about you because if it takes nothing away from you was a person. It should only give you motivation to go out there and beat them. That’s what I did! My girl said she was the two guys that were bigger than me I became so motivated to destroy the record. Eventually I became the biggest man she was with and now I know I am the biggest man she will ever be with. The past is the past don’t dig it up because all you’re going to get is dirty. Do what you can for today and set some realistic goals for the future to work towards. But always keep things in the moment because in the moment there is no problems, in the moment you have total control.
 
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