i only read page one but there was plenty of talk about black people being "more athletic" and being bigger.... dont confuse profesional athletes as an accurate representation of "black people." blacks in america lead practically every health problem from heart disease to diabeetes.

and dont confuse ���� stars to be an accurate repeesentation of all black.men just like all whites.arent ���� stars..they got their job for a reason.
 
b.d.d.;571462 said:
i only read page one but there was plenty of talk about black people being "more athletic" and being bigger.... dont confuse profesional athletes as an accurate representation of "black people." blacks in america lead practically every health problem from heart disease to diabeetes.

and dont confuse ���� stars to be an accurate repeesentation of all black.men just like all whites.arent ���� stars..they got their job for a reason.

agree
 
b.d.d.;571462 said:
i only read page one but there was plenty of talk about black people being "more athletic" and being bigger.... dont confuse profesional athletes as an accurate representation of "black people." blacks in america lead practically every health problem from heart disease to diabeetes.

and dont confuse ���� stars to be an accurate repeesentation of all black.men just like all whites.arent ���� stars..they got their job for a reason.

agree
 
I don't know any black women who like dildos, or have time for dildos, or, need any dildos. "I never knew a man who gave me enough money to live on". The Man only pays entertainers and athletes, and there are so few of those, they don't enter into the equation, except for that NFL lineman I used to hear about in the preliminary mating putdown ritual. Lately all I hear about is the guy who squirted 12 times--you can't please them all all the time!

They would rather retain the upper hand i.e. surplus of that which is in demand. "Holes beat poles", "you fucked up my bizness", "stop holding back","you can't take that long","you have been watching too many African ����� movies".

Dildos are not always a male issue. Pimps don't use dildos. You can't fry pimp brains by using dildos. She can fry pimp brains by keeping an armload of eighteen inch cucumbers in the frig though. Her family brings them. She can't refuse. Pimps blink for cucumbers. Maybe it was zuchinnis. The pimp knows that Chris Brown song about bs, so, he can't say anything, but he blinks, she knows she won. Dildos can't beat eighteen inch cukes, free too.

I just wish I hadn't lied about selling the dildo at the gay bar that she threw away because it was too big. That exposed the fact that her sister told me she paid for that huge dildo, but, that spoiled the whole ritual of flaunting the armload of eighteen inch green vegetables. She was so embarrassed, I never heard from her again. I tried to send her a message that I knew she threw the dildo away, but she knew that I knew that she paid for it, so it's over. I'm lucky she didn't shoot me. She threw it away. She didn't need it. Stella!
 
my head is really spinning right now:)
 
i admit that i did not read 38 pages of this, but the topic does ring true. i too suffer from the "__________ complex", true i'm not dark skinned, but i'm half black. you would think that it wouldn't bother me that much, but there was always remarks being made about how my dads side (black side) was "hung" and all i would have to say is my last name and that i'm half black, and people would look down right away. and still do! no matter how big i got it's "never enough". ironically, though i'm much larger than normal, i don't bulge at all. i mean it doesn't even really show, sometimes i catch people looking down and maybe they realize it's my dick and not something in my pocket, but there are ALWAYS people making sly remarks and comments about how i'm small. right after they find out i'm half black it gets worse!
i was always out of school sick, practically home schooled. that means that i never really got to compare in the locker room with my peers. when i hit puberty and started watching ���� i naturally discovered __________, lex steel, and all these other black performers that obviously live up to the stereotype. that combined with the remarks made by both family members, friends and later on co-workers, i became extremely self conscious of what i was packing. still am! to me it NEVER goes away, which is why i started up full blown Penis Enlargement again over the last month. Im trying not to look at the ruler for now, because i know that beginning and getting back into the game, that can be very discouraging. i have to remind myself the process of getting bigger..fuller flaccid length..then harder erections..then finally some gains.
this __________ complex is horrible, and will not go away! me being light skinned, i can get away with people thinking that i'm italian or puerto rican (every race has sterotypes but __________ is basically the biggest one). those comments still get to me though, i can't imagine the pressure of being dark skinned and not being a monster cock. ugh
*rant over*
 
samzman;571837 said:
i admit that i did not read 38 pages of this, but the topic does ring true.

Insane that this thread has 38 pages but the myth does gain a lot of attention and you are right that dark skinned men are suffering most because of this complex.
 
"There are only a few black actors in ���� and they all are stereotypical to what the myth is. The ratio between white and black actors is not equal by even a 10th! -DLD" Solid argument.

Ghetto diet is bad for growth and sex hormones during childhood. Suburban diet may be even worse, though. Search on terms like wheat belly, tim ferriss, paleo diet. Not sure if it's an internet myth but there's also a story going around about messed up diet messed up hormones in pregnant woman, small penis and transexuals. Frogs and fish are having development problems, so there might be a human dimension.

For a while I was joking,"Black women really are smaller". I'm sure you've heard that fat women are smaller, and female prison guards are fatter on average. Did you hear about Black Guerrilla Family in Baltimore prison--five fat guards pregnant by one guy with a [guess his] dick size?

After WW2 children kept getting bigger and bigger, including asians on western diet. Taller might help dick size, but fatter should relate inversely since fat increases estrogen, inhibits t and converts t to more estrogen, and inhibits growth hormone, not to mention couch potatoes won't be exercising to correct hormone balance even temporarily. Nowadays children are just getting "bigger", fatter, more and more time in chairs, worse and worse food for hormones and activity. This might mean older guys are bigger! On the other hand, guys over 35 are estrogenized, and women can spot the pillsbury and michelin doughboy look of the impotent estrogenized shitsack, done, walk on by--facial fatpad is the hardest to lose!

Whiskey tango meth hostesses are pimped by their dads and brothers at rural midwestern/swestern roadhouses for 14 days 24/7. Black ghetto crack hostesses are only pimped for 3 days 24/7, so they're smaller. If they can't keep their cell phones on, it's "trafficking", and that's wrong!
 
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pnoewbe;590317 said:
Did you hear about Black Guerrilla Family in Baltimore prison--five fat guards pregnant by one guy with a [guess his] dick size?

What was his size? Either 4 or 9 :)
 
Four inches in diameter. The secret was kept for a long time because women always asked,"how big is he?", and they all responded,"thick". Other women took that to mean short, but, thick. Wrong!

The trouble came when the gang leader got the brilliant idea of Jailhouse ����, and Jailhouse Cam, and of course, Jailhouse Chat, in order to buy more Synthol so every man could be a part, a thicker part, of what was going down--and up--and down.
 
Good read. I think most guys would shy away from buying sex toys for their women due to the feeling of inadequacy, especially if that toy is bigger than them. The male species is so focused on ego that we are terrified of an inanimate object. I for one love using toys on my woman and my woman loves my confidence because of this! I am the one who suggested toys be introduced into our sex life because they are great fun!
A toy cannot replace the sexual intimacy between a man and a woman, only a man's lack of confidence can. Guys really need to get over themselves when it comes to this subject and this is regardless of skin colour.
The size of a sex toy also has nothing to do with a woman's pleasure. They are merely props in a sexual game performed in the bedroom . Men who feel inadequacy because of a particular size of a toy need to remember that a woman can be made to squirt with two fingers!! Those two fingers are smaller than probably 90% if the male population! Should we feel inadequate about that? I think not.
Anyway, as to the point of black men being portrayed as this massively hung studs with unlimited stamina, which we know isn't true, I do have some level of sympathy. All of us men have some level of pressure put upon us when it comes to performance. For men it's from watching ����, for some women it's reading raunchy novels where the woman is seduced by a well hung stud who fucks her like nothing she has experienced before! Seldom is real life remotely like this. We need to give ourselves a break and free ourselves from these perceived ideas of what a real man is!
 
I read the first few pages and knew it would open old wounds for some and create divides for others. Machismo/Ego/__________ complex are all deeply rooted and I would agree that some ethnicity's purvey these more than others...but I think we can all agree it's based on some ideal (real or imagined) that's been manufactured/perpetuated to maintain status-quo.
 
I bump certain thread once or twice a year to see the reaction of the current membership. Things are always evolving.
 
Alrighty, after 2 days and several hours, I have read this entire thread. It has great significance for me in my personal life. I am white, and the "__________" complex shaped my life and set me on the road to Penis Enlargement. I want to share my story about how the "black is bigger" myth (and I don't think it's a myth) affected my life.

I was married at the age of 18, over 40 years ago. I had no __________ complex back then for the simple fact there were no black people where I lived. My young wife and I had been married about a year when her sister, whom I'd never met, came up from Las Vegas for a visit. She was a bit of a party animal, worked as a prostitute, and ONLY dated black men. She got to talking with my wife (her sister) and brainwashing her into thinking that she was really missing out, being married to some guy who works in a factory. And she told her how black guys were so hip, and that they had huge penises. Within a month after her visit, my wife told me she was leaving, because she needed to "get out" and experience life. She packed a suitcase, walked down to the highway, stuck out her thumb and was gone. She moved in with her sister in a city about 200 miles from where we lived. In less than a week, she told me on the phone that she had gone home with a black man playing in a band in a local disco bar (disco was all the rage back then.) I was kind of sarcastic and said, "I guess he was really big, right." And she said "He was really thick!" Then I said, knowing from her sister that black men have a reputation for great sexual endurance, "I bet he screwed you for 2 solid hours" to which she replied, "More!" Bitch! Shortly after that she was shacked up with a black man in a town where the number of black men could be numbered on one hand with 2 fingers left. I corned that guy a couple weeks later and threated to break every bone in his body, but my now ex-wife told me she would never speak to me again if I hurt him. But I guess my point is that she went hunting specifically for a black man. I continued to work in my factory where my whole shift, consisting of about 25 men, would all hit the showers at the same time. Most seemed relatively close in size, but there were a couple who were quite large. But there were no black men for me to take notice of. But one day, while going through a different plant, I went past the showers and noticed a naked black man in the shower, alone with his back to me. I stood there wondering, "Is it true," and waited for him to turn around. Well, when he did my jaw almost hit the floor. This guy had to be at least 8" flaccid, maybe more. Definitely larger than anyone I'd seen before. Since that time, the only black man I'd ever seen naked was in a gym in a nearby city. Several nude men in the shower, but he was the only black guy. When he turned around, I was presented with the thickest cock I'd ever seen. Maybe 7" girth.

Flash forward a couple years later. I won't go into the details but my ex and I had reconciled (we've long been divorced at the present). Her sister once again was down for a visit and was talking about black men. She really liked this black guy in Vegas, as he was "so cool." But, she said sadly, "He is only 6". How heartbreaking! Then she went on to talk about this other black guy she had a couple rolls in the sack with. Said he was 14". I pulled a long English cuke out of the fridge and she said, "he was just like that, no bullshit!" I asked her if she could take it all and she said, "no, about 4-5 inches just couldn't fit."

Well, this was some 30 or more years ago. I've had a complex about my penis size my entire life as a result, spending thousands of dollars on every PE contraption ever designed, and so much time trying to enlarge my penis that if I had used that time in other ways, I could have been a world class brain surgeon or whatever. Now here I am, in my early 60's, still trying to get bigger. I have never felt confident about my size or skill in decades and it has put a damper on my entire adult sex life. One other thing I'd like to point out, as this thread was basically, at least in the beginning, about whether or not Black men, on average, were bigger than other races.

The town I grew up in here in Canada had no black people. But for the past 20 years I've lived in a larger city that has grown rapidly. Although still predominantly white, there are a significant number of black people here now. Over the years, I have seen dozens of interracial black/white couples. But I have never, ever seen one where the woman was black. Not one. Ever. It seems obvious to me that white women, at least up here, pursue black men, and that the reverse, black women pursuing white men, is non-existent. Not here anyways.

So, in short, and to sum it up: I've only seen 2 black men naked, and both had bigger dicks than the dozens of white men I've seen. Could be an extraordinary coincidence, but I doubt it. And the fact that every single black/white couple I have ever seen in 20 years is the same: Black man, white woman.

That's gotta tell you something.
 
Fillerup, I feel you my brother. Along with our fearless leader, Mike we're of similar age/demographic and our formative years were pre-internet so much of the information we had to work with was either first-hand (which was very limited) or anecdotal (which was prone to exaggeration), so our body of work (so to speak) was too narrow for an adequate representation of the truth. The fact that you've only witnessed 2 black men naked is probably more a testament of those two being 'loud and proud' and on display while the more average would be less overt (just a hunch). What I'm trying to say is that our sample-size was grossly under-represented and the only people that you heard about were either the 1% or an embellishment (often women's perceptions are skewed by expectation vs. fact).

My entire adult sex-life has also been 'pressurized' to meet some ideal out there that I manufactured in my head, so in many ways not knowing the truth about size/race/etc. created a fictitious goal/target that I'd never be able to reach...my 3 years here at MOS has helped me be better informed, but old habits a truly tough to break.

Thank you for trusting us and sharing what had to have been some deeply painful memories and how those events have shaped you even today...we're here to heal as well as grow :)
 
Fillerup;745878 said:
So, in short, and to sum it up: I've only seen 2 black men naked, and both had bigger dicks than the dozens of white men I've seen. Could be an extraordinary coincidence, but I doubt it. And the fact that every single black/white couple I have ever seen in 20 years is the same: Black man, white woman.

That's gotta tell you something.

I went to an all back school in DC. The shower room was one large room with like 20 shower heads. After gym we would all shower and I was just as big as every other guy there, no one stuck out more than the other and this was all black men. I never had this complex because most of my life I spent among black people, growing up, in school, after school, parties, etc. I did not fit in well with the white kids. Anyway, with all my first hand experience I would say that there is no difference between the two but in rare, extreme cases. If the myth were true we would have more than 5 black ���� actors.
 
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