timber1981;502507 said:
I have been using tri-mix, dmso, and paba for the past 10 months and i have made massive gains. I jelq for 30 min per day and i administer the tri-mix 5 days per week. I made a cream from dsmo and paba and use that to soften the collagen in my penis. I have also used the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] the past 3 months for 2-6 hours per day. I have gained: .90" in erect girth and 1.9" in erect length in 10 months. This protocol works. The key is jelqing after the 3-4 hour erection has subsided. If you have a low pain tolerance this isnt for you lol

Holy shit. Fucking killer, those are the exact gains I am looking for....

Thank you very much for your input. I will try that immediately.

I use Verapamil, which helps prevent collagen buildup and fibrosis. Is this the same as the DMSO and paba mix? Also, when do you apply the topical cream? Before the injection or after, or just randomly throughout the day?

THanks
 
MikeShlort;502509 said:
Holy shit. Fucking killer, those are the exact gains I am looking for....

Thank you very much for your input. I will try that immediately.

I use Verapamil, which helps prevent collagen buildup and fibrosis. Is this the same as the DMSO and paba mix? Also, when do you apply the topical cream? Before the injection or after, or just randomly throughout the day?

THanks

I'm not sure what Verapamil is, but I can provide input on the dmso and paba. Basically what I did was buy a DMSO/Aloe vera cream online, and I bought Paba in bulk powder form online, both are legal substances and available to the public, and I mix 2000 mg of powder with the cream and apply it to my entire penis and pelvic bone area, just above the penis. I individually mix this dosage every day to make sure im using the corrrect amount. You can't just take a bunch of paba powder and mix it in the jar. About an hour before I am going to administer my tri-mix, I apply the cream and let it soak into my skin for about 30 minutes. I then wash my penis off and clean it with antibacterial soap. I then use a heating pad to prep my penile tissues.

giving the mix an extra half hour to completely absorb into my penis seems to make the collagen and tissues in my penis much more susceptible to expansion, along with the applied heat.

But to anyone who is interested in this protocol, I wouldn't even think about attempting it until you have done DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and have a good 6 months of Penis Enlargement under your belt. The extended erections are incredibly hard, and become painful after about 2.5 hours. You need to do Penis Enlargement first to condition your penis correctly.
 
MartinGlad;502511 said:
What is Tri-Mix, DmSO and Paba???? Could anyone please tell me because I dont have a clue about what that is...

Trimix is an injectable drug used to treat erectile dysfunction. It is made up of three vasodiolators: alprostadil, papaverine, and phentolamine. It has to be injected directly into the CC of the penis.

DMSO and PABA are compounds that are considered potentiators. they remodel the connective tissues that help define the size and shape of the penis, as well as increases solubility of collagen. Basically they weaken the collagen cross-linkage that makes up the connective tissues of the penis, making it easier to expand and lengthen the tissues. DSMO not only softens collagen, but it can transport any chemicals through the skin, so you have to make sure your penis is completely clean before applying it.

There is members on other boards who are primarily focused on weight-hanging, and they have used DMSO and PABA to dramatically speed up their gains.

these two compounds can be used with any type of Penis Enlargement that anyone does. Its not limited to chemical penis enlargement. It will speed up gains for everyone who does regular Penis Enlargement, Pumping, Clamping, Hanging, ect.

I would not go over 4000 mg per day of PABA. At that high of a dosage it tends to make body tissues really soft, which can make joint and tissue injuries much easier. I used to take oral PABA, but now I just buy it in a powder form and let the DMSO carry it through my skin into my penile tissues.

I hope this answered your questions.
 
Thanks Timber, I appreciate your help.

I forgot to ask you though:

What level of erection do you jelq at? Is it 90-100% or is it more around 50-70%? The reason I ask is because I've heard theories that jelqing at a lower EQ is beneficial because that is when the tissue is most pliable.

Thanks again for your input
 
Yes the key is what you do after the erection

I think I will reach 6.75 by months end, that will be 3/4 inch in 2 months.

Today I was measuring and when I got it really hard it would poke past 6.5 closer to 6.75 but only when I got it super hard. That tells me more is coming.

I would think any kind of stretching is more important than jelqing for length, no?

My goal by years end is 8, I don't care what girth is that can happen next year.
 
MikeShlort;502640 said:
Thanks Timber, I appreciate your help.

I forgot to ask you though:

What level of erection do you jelq at? Is it 90-100% or is it more around 50-70%? The reason I ask is because I've heard theories that jelqing at a lower EQ is beneficial because that is when the tissue is most pliable.

Thanks again for your input

Im guessing i hover between 50-60%. My cock is usually so sore after being hard for 3 hours, its painful to jelq any harder than that. I usually turn on the tv, find a show that interests me, set my phones timer for 30 min. My jelqs are 4 second strokes. I dont count jelqs. I just space out and watch tv and it has just become a natural part of my day, every day. Counting jelqs just gets old imo.
 
Things didn't go so well today.

The Korean bitch did not like the extra size, she was mad because she can tell I used something again and last week she said not to. In the shower she ask why stiff already and I say you're making him nervous, she said he making me nervous. After sex she say you keep eating the biagra come take too long hurt me, you pay extra now on or no deal. She also suggested I use some kind of cream to make it "beeger" she say "I not stupid I know you do something". I didn't even pump today, just used the PGE1 and it was so tight it hurt me, the length was also way too much. I tried leaving an inch or two out and I was gentle but the girth alone was a deal breaker. I think I have some serious gain between this week and last week.

The strange thing she made me pay extra after she told me to call her again. Call me and talk to me I miss you but btw I want more money to fuck you, maybe she was just mad. Well I am done with this ho business. I'm glad this happened, now I can save some money. I think it's time for me to get back to doing what I do, I do not want to give these bitches any more of my money.

Just goes to show be careful what you wish for.

Now I am at a crossroads where I am getting too big for the smaller women. I have to think about how much bigger I want to get.

I can't believe I feel bad because my dick is too big. lol

I did 3 hours PGE1 11mcg banged this ho, went to the mall, walked around with a hardon not giving a shit, got some chicken and rice, ate it, drove home, did 3 sets of flaccid stretches and the DLD hardcore stretches only this time flaccid. It still works. Now I have a dick that looks like the hindenburg and I have to stay up all night working. Life sucks some days.

11mcg no longer cutting it, time to move up to 12.

By the way that masturbation sleeve I got does not work, I can't fit my girth into it at all any more and that problem will only get worse. It's fine if you are under 5" girth, otherwise forget it.
 
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Good stuff fellas. Yep a little birdy, cough ronielle cough said the same thing. That the key is jelqing at 75% erection level after your dick has subsided from the pge1 erection since the pge1 delinks the cologen with in the tunica and leaves it in a weaken state more subceptible to manipulation.

Im still waiting on my pge1 and tb500 in the mail. I already have two glass bottles of 70% dmso solution and one bottle of 99% dmso solution as well as a huge ass bag of powdered PABA for the potentiators/ topical application.

Timber1981 is definitely right about the positive effects of dmso and paba. For those of you guys that won't ever put a needle in your dick with pge1, yall should at least use dmso mixed with powdered paba to help inhance whatever Penis Enlargement workouts yall are doing.
 
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petersouth;502853 said:
Things didn't go so well today.

The Korean bitch did not like the extra size, she was mad because she can tell I used something again and last week she said not to. In the shower she ask why stiff already and I say you're making him nervous, she said he making me nervous. After sex she say you keep eating the biagra come take too long hurt me, you pay extra now on or no deal. She also suggested I use some kind of cream to make it "beeger" she say "I not stupid I know you do something". I didn't even pump today, just used the PGE1 and it was so tight it hurt me, the length was also way too much. I tried leaving an inch or two out and I was gentle but the girth alone was a deal breaker. I think I have some serious gain between this week and last week.

The strange thing she made me pay extra after she told me to call her again. Call me and talk to me I miss you but btw I want more money to fuck you, maybe she was just mad. Well I am done with this ho business. I'm glad this happened, now I can save some money. I think it's time for me to get back to doing what I do, I do not want to give these bitches any more of my money.

Just goes to show be careful what you wish for.

Now I am at a crossroads where I am getting too big for the smaller women. I have to think about how much bigger I want to get.

I can't believe I feel bad because my dick is too big. lol

I did 3 hours PGE1 11mcg banged this ho, went to the mall, walked around with a hardon not giving a shit, got some chicken and rice, ate it, drove home, did 3 sets of flaccid stretches and the DLD hardcore stretches only this time flaccid. It still works. Now I have a dick that looks like the hindenburg and I have to stay up all night working. Life sucks some days.

11mcg no longer cutting it, time to move up to 12.

By the way that masturbation sleeve I got does not work, I can't fit my girth into it at all any more and that problem will only get worse. It's fine if you are under 5" girth, otherwise forget it.

Lol. Try a divosuit or a divosock, it might help you with what you're looking for. You get a bonus one when you order one, so you can ask him to give you two different size for varying flaccid size.

Do you prefer Asian women? Because it sounds to me like you just need to fuck some white girls. They can't get enough cock, fucking cock sluts. Are there any good white prostitutes? I'd be all over that. Pay a 10/10 who is white and clean enough for me to put my mouth everywhere. Maybe you should try that if you feel the need to release in the future. Or try a thicker Asian, one with large hips, a big ass and big tits.
 
kingsnake;502893 said:
Good stuff fellas. Yep a little birdy, cough ronielle cough said the same thing. That the key is jelqing at 75% erection level after your dick has subsided from the pge1 erection since the pge1 delinks the cologen with in the tunica and leaves it in a weaken state more subceptible to manipulation.

Im still waiting on my pge1 and tb500 in the mail. I already have two glass bottles of 70% dmso solution and one bottle of 99% dmso solution as well as a huge ass bag of powdered PABA for the potentiators/ topical application.

Timber1981 is definitely right about the positive effects of dmso and paba. For those of you guys that won't ever put a needle in your dick with pge1, yall should at least use dmso mixed with powdered paba to help inhance whatever Penis Enlargement workouts yall are doing.

Is tb500 to help prevent scarring?
 
How much does PGE1 (caverject) cost per dose or per month? I'm curious to give it a try, but I'm wondering how much of a financial commitment it will be.
 
Hey Mikeshlort. Yeah the tb500 helps with quicker healing of the tissues, anti scarring and increased tissue elasticity. Tb500 is some really good stuff. Bodybuilders use it all the time on sports injuries. Chemical Penis Enlargementers are discovering the benefits it has when injected into the penis. It's best to inject it with pge1 to limit yourself to 1 injection a day.
 
kingsnake;503269 said:
Hey Mikeshlort. Yeah the tb500 helps with quicker healing of the tissues, anti scarring and increased tissue elasticity. Tb500 is some really good stuff. Bodybuilders use it all the time on sports injuries. Chemical Penis Enlargementers are discovering the benefits it has when injected into the penis. It's best to inject it with pge1 to limit yourself to 1 injection a day.

Cool, thanks kingsnake.

Have you had someone explain to you the proper way to inject the PGE1 yet? If not, holler at me before you try and I'll make a vid step by step what the doctor showed me.

Would you be able to tell me the proportions for the DMSO and paba mix? I'm interested in trying it, I believe my tunica is extra thick.
 
That last post reminds me:

I was told by the doctor to apply pressure to the injection site immediately after pulling needle out (with two fingers) for 1-2 minutes. This makes it so internal bleeding is much less likely to occur and so lumps don't form over time with repeated injections. I've only done 14 injections but using this technique, I have no lumps or any problems.

He told me some doctors advise massaging the area but this is incorrect; massaging causes the blood to form lumps. So applying pressure is the best way. Make sure your hand is sterile too (obviously)
 
Sezuki;503267 said:
How much does PGE1 (caverject) cost per dose or per month? I'm curious to give it a try, but I'm wondering how much of a financial commitment it will be.
 
sir wankalot;503329 said:
Hey mikeshlolrt, I'm getting my pge1 in this week and I would like a video if you don't mind,thanks

Okay, will do. I'll make it thursday, my next dose. In the meantime, read up on injection techniques and safety procedures for priapism.
 
Hey MikeShlort. Yeah an injection video definitely sounds good. Cough Ronielle Cough said the same thing about pinching the injection site but he said to hold it for 5 to 10 minutes to stop a lump formation. Also one of the benifits of jelqing after the pge1 erection goes down is to help break up any scar tissue or lumps that injection may cause.

I should be getting my pge1 and tb500 by the end of this week or the beginning of next week. I ordered a long time ago but my source was out of stock. They just sent me an email saying my chemicals are in route to my address so Im excited.

With dmso and paba Im not sure how much to apply per application. Im going to shoot Ronielle a text and ask him how much he uses. I'll report back when he responds to me.
 
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petersouth;503335 said:
Christ, I left only for a couple days and already this thread turned into a gay hookup academy.

???
 
^ He's mad because I keep inadvertently jacking his thread.

Sorry Peter. It's because you have a good thread and there is lots to ask the guys posting on it.
 
Are the gains everyone making just newbie gains? Have any vets gained from this protocol after they have stopped gaining from a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words].
 
Ok the snake man reporting back with the dmso and paba answer. cough cough Ronielle cough said that if you buy the 8 ouch glass bottles of liquid dmso, just pour enough powdered paba in the bottle to saturate the dmso. After you do this, shake up the bottle. If you see some powdered paba sitting in the bottom of the dmso bottle after you shake it up real good, then that means that the dmso has reached maximum saturation with the paba.

When ever you want to apply some of your dmso/paba solution use a glass eye dropper to extract some of the dmso/paba solution out of the bottle into the eye dropper. Then you will drip the solution on to your penis until your entire penis is wet or covered with the dmso/paba solution. For those with peryonies desease or curves in there penis, apply an extra amount to this area so the dmso/paba will help break up and soften the scar tissue there. Let the dmso/paba solution sit on your dick for 20 to 30 minutes as it penetrates and dries through your dick to do it's job.
 
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8incyclops;503552 said:
Are the gains everyone making just newbie gains? Have any vets gained from this protocol after they have stopped gaining from a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words].

Yes, all newbie gains.

Nothing you wouldn't gain any other way, this is strictly for entertainment.

As someone said earlier...why not stick with Viagra? Good point.
 
petersouth;503537 said:
I haven't done shit for 4 days but my dick is almost 6.75NBP, I'm a little shy.

Work is kicking my ass and I'm a little demotivated.

You fucking asshole. 1.25" EL gain in 6 months.

Sick of all these lucky newbie gainers. ;)
 
I'm sure some of it is fat loss because I am losing a lot of fat in the past couple months as well.

Funny thing is my girth keeps fluctuating wildly. I just measured and it's down to 5 again.

But as I said I don't really care about girth now as long as it is 5 or above.
 
I think it's because of the thing where you said when your penis is shorter during an erection ,it's fatter. I'm the same way. If I have a real long erection, it will have a bit less girth than if it's a shorter erection.
 
MikeShlort;503879 said:
I think it's because of the thing where you said when your penis is shorter during an erection ,it's fatter. I'm the same way. If I have a real long erection, it will have a bit less girth than if it's a shorter erection.

May be due to extra length and the whole thing stretches out a little, who knows.
 
9/13-14/2012

OK I'm back into things again.

12mcg shot felt very powerful, 6+ hour erection, it was not easy to get rid of. I had to take 4 sudafed, ejaculated twice and that took well over an hour to work.

I shot at around 1AM and it didn't go down until well after 7 in the morning. Technically this was more like 9/14 (today).

I stayed up all night with it, the reason being I had to go in early for work and that was the only time I could get my PGE time in.

So I went to work and did 3 sets of manual stretches a few hours later in the bathroom using toilet paper for extra grip. Everything was still very pliable. Sometimes I feel like my dick will come apart, it just keeps stretching more every few seconds.

When I got home I got in the shower and did 3 sets of behind the cheek stretches that I missed in the bathroom followed by some flaccid [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches, it was not quite as intense as usual but I think it did ok. I could feel the stretch very well and I can tell that the PGE1 is still active or at least the collagen is still broken down.

My dick was blown up like a balloon after 2 sets so I knocked it off. Until tomorrow.
 
Sorry for bumping into this (great) thread but I'm interested in the PABA + DMSO mix.....
According to the effects then it's best applied before doing a rountine like [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] right? It should allow extra expansion so ideal before right? Any benefits in applying after a routine?
Can we use DMSO directly in the skin regardless of the concentration??? I've heard of reviews were the DMSO can cause some skin burn???!!!
 
apolo;505803 said:
Sorry for bumping into this (great) thread but I'm interested in the PABA + DMSO mix.....
According to the effects then it's best applied before doing a rountine like [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] right? It should allow extra expansion so ideal before right? Any benefits in applying after a routine?
Can we use DMSO directly in the skin regardless of the concentration??? I've heard of reviews were the DMSO can cause some skin burn???!!!

That's ok but this thread is about Caverject, not paba and DMSO.
 
Wow, it has been non stop supplements and chemical Penis Enlargement going on here. I am with Dash, I think we need a section just for the various supplements, a place to name them describe them, give advice on dosage, side effects, benefits and other vital information.
 
petersouth;505977 said:
That's ok but this thread is about Caverject, not paba and DMSO.


i know but I posted here because other members talked about DMSO + PABA in this thread several times......
 
kingsnake;503592 said:
Ok the snake man reporting back with the dmso and paba answer. cough cough Ronielle cough said that if you buy the 8 ouch glass bottles of liquid dmso, just pour enough powdered paba in the bottle to saturate the dmso. After you do this, shake up the bottle. If you see some powdered paba sitting in the bottom of the dmso bottle after you shake it up real good, then that means that the dmso has reached maximum saturation with the paba.

When ever you want to apply some of your dmso/paba solution use a glass eye dropper to extract some of the dmso/paba solution out of the bottle into the eye dropper. Then you will drip the solution on to your penis until your entire penis is wet or covered with the dmso/paba solution. For those with peryonies desease or curves in there penis, apply an extra amount to this area so the dmso/paba will help break up and soften the scar tissue there. Let the dmso/paba solution sit on your dick for 20 to 30 minutes as it penetrates and dries through your dick to do it's job.

apolo what snake said.
 
doublelongdaddy;505984 said:
Wow, it has been non stop supplements and chemical Penis Enlargement going on here. I am with Dash, I think we need a section just for the various supplements, a place to name them describe them, give advice on dosage, side effects, benefits and other vital information.

Please do it.
If for nothing else, to piss off the Nazis at pegym.
 
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apolo;506048 said:
i know but I posted here because other members talked about DMSO + PABA in this thread several times......

They derailed my thread so now you're going to take your shot. I get it. What I don't understand is what the kick is.

People see something that is working quite well and interrupt a log specifically about it to ask theoretical questions about something else that MIGHT work because someone said a gay hooker said it did. That is literally what is happening. Guys want to talk about ANYTHING ELSE because they are terrified their dick might grow and they cannot stand the possibility.

Ronnette is alleged to have a nine inch dick which is not super impressive compared to some of the members here. He is also a gay hooker, think about that and read some of the threads on attraction and allowance. If you continue down this road you will become more like a gay hooker with each passing day, something to consider.

While you're chewing on that nugget of truth let me save people some trouble and unnecessary expense.

IGF-1 sucks, doesn't work. Thread after thread goes nowhere. Good for muscles, bad for your penis.
TB4 sucks unless you inject it into your body. It's great for coloring grey hair and helping muscle recovery. Nobody uses it alone for Penis Enlargement. There's a reason, it sucks. Disagree? Start a TB4 only log and prove me wrong, I say that rhetorically because nobody will.
Aderactim not only sucks my dick but the penis of the guy next to me which is awkward to say the least. What's the protocol here? Do I make small talk or is it like the bathroom or the elevator? Maybe I should whip out my "smart phone" and pretend I have 100 text messages waiting since I checked 3 seconds ago like very other loser out there. Try to find a thread here that says some guy over 15 got amazing gains from it.
PABA + DMSO sucks. It doesn't matter if you put it on before, after, standing on one leg, wearing a frilly pink skirt. It still SUCKS and not only does it suck but it moans like a gay hooker while it sucks.

And lastly PGE1 sucks. It's too hard, it hurts, you'll scar your penis causing you to place second in a coveted penile beauty contest before you wear your girlfriend's pussy out and have to get a new one. It requires refrigeration so you'll have to cut leg holes in a refrigerator and waddle over to your girlfriend's house which is very inconvenient compared to viagra. After all, just because it survived 3 days in a 90 degree post office storage facility doesn't mean it can last 30 minutes at 75-80 in a syringe.

You'll inject in your girlfriend's bathroom, break the 30g needle off inside of your dick, go the the ER, it will get infected and they will be forced to amputate your penis to save your life and your balls so you won't look stupid. Your girlfriend will give you the "love but not in love" speech 30 minutes later as you lay dickless and confused on a gurney and you will live the rest of your life as a fat, mannish looking woman and have to make friends with other fat, mannish looking women at church because no one else will talk to you. Your girlfriend will still want to "be friends" citing personality differences but restrict your contact to "email/facebook only". You frequently check your "smart phone" for her facebook updates in the elevator because you are awkward unless you have something you can pretend to be doing.

This is because you grew up as part of a borderline autistic generation raised on frequent mercury filled vaccinations resulting in limited social skills complicated by lowered self esteem fostered by a bizarre and unfortunate accident that all started when you read about the exploits of an anonymous man who calls himself "Peter South" on your "smart phone". Unable to distinguish fantasy from reality after ingesting 100s of gallons of flouridated drinking water you promptly removed yourself from the gene pool.

Meanwhile "Peter South" sits in his sprawling mansion in DC fondling his naturally huge, never PGE1ed phallus drunk with power and the knowledge that the voluntary eugenics plan is indeed off to a great start. Being white he calls up the local freemasons lodge to vote yay for the next war in Iran and request a 2m dollar negative interest loan from the federal reserve to hold him over until Monday.

Hope that helps.
 
Got it wrong nevertheless I won't take time to reply to your speech.....You don't know me from anywere so you assume so much and miss even more.
Hope you have the same reaction to other members. I love when someone is coerent.....Hope you can reach your goals.
 
apolo;506392 said:
Got it wrong nevertheless I won't take time to reply to your speech.....You don't know me from anywere so you assume so much and miss even more.
Hope you have the same reaction to other members. I love when someone is coerent.....Hope you can reach your goals.

Don't take it personally, I don't like people spamming up the thread because then it becomes useless. Imagine trying to read it to figure out what I did.

I hope you don't think I went off topic. ;)

9/17/2012

12mcg PGE1 6 hours

This is a strong dose for me and very effective, I was up all night. After 4.5 hours I took 4 sudafed, took about an hour and a half to work.

Did 2 sets of manual stretches and 2 sets of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches due to lack of time. I hadn't planned on that long so I had to go to work.

It doesn't seem realistic to increase the frequency although I think someone else could, I just don't have the time. Skin irritation from the uncontrolled [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] expansion is also a factor. I'll try to stick to every other day because that's what I can get.
 
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When you say increase frequency, do you mean increase the number of days you inject or increase the dose per time you inject?

And also, when you say "1 set of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches" does one set consist of = down(straight, left right), straight out (so,l,r) and straight up (su,l,r). Also, how long are you pulling each stretch for? 30 sec?

Thanks
 
MikeShlort;506418 said:
When you say increase frequency, do you mean increase the number of days you inject or increase the dose per time you inject?

And also, when you say "1 set of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches" does one set consist of = down(straight, left right), straight out (so,l,r) and straight up (su,l,r). Also, how long are you pulling each stretch for? 30 sec?

Thanks

I meant the number of days although I'm not sure which is better, longer or more frequent.

One set is all directions for 30 seconds each although I don't do different directions pointing upward, it's a pain in the ass.
 
Petersouth, have you considered taking viagra or cialis with the PGE1? I've been looking over some posts over at thunders and one of them said that the original patent by Dr Adams included using a PDE inhibitor along with PGE1 to increase the strength of the erections.

See example 6 and 7 in the original patent at this link:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html
 
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