Peter South's PGE1 (caverject) Experiment

Thanks man.
Do you exercise right after it goes down or do you just exercise on off days?
What are you finding gives you the best body clues?
 
8/9

1 set of manual excercises in the morning, no [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words]

Injected 9mcg, erect time 4.5 hours

3 sets of hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches in each direction to finish. By the last set I was losing erection.
 
MikeShlort;496600 said:
Thanks man.
Do you exercise right after it goes down or do you just exercise on off days?
What are you finding gives you the best body clues?
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No problem Mike.

I haven't been exercising afterward or before. Maybe it's a good idea but I'm sore enough that I don't really want to. Before, maybe I should but I never have time.

Right now I think I'm going to stick with doing the injections every other day for 4+ hours because that's when I feel ready to do it again and I can still get roughly 15 hours a week.

Stretching on the other hand I think needs to be done every day, I want to be better about doing 3 manual sets and at least 4 hours of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] per day so I heal long.

Unfortunately this shit takes up a lot of time.
 
8/11

Injected 10mcg, erect time 4.5 hours

3 sets of hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches in each direction 30 seconds each to finish.
 
An interesting development.

My nearly 1/4 inch girth gain has turned into a 1/2 inch length gain. I'm currently 6.5NBP standing without breaking a sweat and my girth gain has vanished. I think it may have to do with poor eq giving me shorter, fatter erections and concealing what was really going on. I quit masturbating for 5 days and there it was.

It will be interesting if I can gain an inch in a month or if I stagnate from here. My goal of 8" NBP by the end of the year is starting to look attainable.
 
Can you just say how you get the PGE1 please? I was injecting Caverject years ago which is expensive and was constantly having to go get a script.
 
8incyclops;496817 said:
Can you just say how you get the PGE1 please? I was injecting Caverject years ago which is expensive and was constantly having to go get a script.
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Hopefully you can appreciate that this not something one can post openly. I'll PM.

And as always this experimental research is not recommended for human consumption and for entertainment purposes only.

We don't actually do these things and I don't recommend that you do it outside of properly supervised laboratory conditions.

As always ask your doctor if your hamster is healthy enough for sex.
 
petersouth;496825 said:
Hopefully you can appreciate that this not something one can post openly. I'll PM.

And as always this experimental research is not recommended for human consumption and for entertainment purposes only.

We don't actually do these things and I don't recommend that you do it outside of properly supervised laboratory conditions.

As always ask your doctor if your hamster is healthy enough for sex.
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I give the injections to my ferret. He likes them.
 
8/13

Injected 10mcg, erect time 4 hours

3 sets of hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches in each direction 30 seconds each to finish.
 
MikeShlort;496969 said:
When you inject, are you rock hard, unable to bend it?
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No I found that I have to encourage it a lot, I pull on it constantly so I am active the whole 4 hours. I don't just sit there or do other things. It doesn't seem to affect the results.

But when I get it to a point where it's really rock hard it will stay a good 5 -10 minutes at a time, in fact I find myself having to take a break because of the pain.

I could take more but I feel that it's best to keep the dose climbing slowly. I figure the longer it takes to get to those elephant doses the better.
 
MikeShlort;497094 said:
Congrats on the .5 gain. Do you think it's erection quality gain or from stretching?
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Thanks.

Honestly I think it's the PGE1 and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches, there is some great synergy there. The PGE1 keeps me erect long enough to do 3 sets and the burn is so intense I can't pump past 140 or 150 on the last set. I start at like 120. lol

I was close to 6.5 a couple months ago and then I quit doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches to focus on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words]. That's when I lost all the gain, probably because I don't really wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] that much and it doesn't stretch inner penis.

As soon as I add the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching I got it back so now I'm sticking with it.

I want to see how rest of the month goes if the gains continue, perhaps it was just "muscle memory".
 
petersouth;497264 said:
Thanks.

Honestly I think it's the PGE1 and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches, there is some great synergy there. The PGE1 keeps me erect long enough to do 3 sets and the burn is so intense I can't pump past 140 or 150 on the last set. I start at like 120. lol

I was close to 6.5 a couple months ago and then I quit doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches to focus on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words]. That's when I lost all the gain, probably because I don't really wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] that much and it doesn't stretch inner penis.

As soon as I add the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching I got it back so now I'm sticking with it.

I want to see how rest of the month goes if the gains continue, perhaps it was just "muscle memory".
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Nice.
I've done 5 doses so far of the PGE1 and I notice a bigger erection. Nothing significant on the ruler but it's definitely bigger and harder.I'll take a measure in two months (October 13). Starting hanging too. Really having trouble getting length it seems.
 
MikeShlort;497277 said:
Nice.
I've done 5 doses so far of the PGE1 and I notice a bigger erection. Nothing significant on the ruler but it's definitely bigger and harder.I'll take a measure in two months (October 13). Starting hanging too. Really having trouble getting length it seems.
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That's great. You should see a significant improvement in two months.
 
8/16/12

Took 2 days off due to work emergency and extra stress.

Did a 4 hour session with PGE-1 and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] erect hardcore stretches at the end. 3 sets of 30 seconds each direction.

I noticed I don't have to take the pump off every time I change direction now. Before I had to take it off 3 times for each set because the pain was too intense.

Now I l can eave it on until each set is completed. I was able to pump up to 150 today on last set without discomfort so it seems to be getting stronger.
 
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8incyclops;497392 said:
So the idea of this routine is to fatigue the penis from the PGE-1 that makes it easier to stretch?
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Well that's my idea, plenty of other people get good results without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. But I noticed that inner penis gains are faster for me so I want to take advantage of that.

PGE 1 will probably hit many of the same areas that manual stretching and girth work does so I hope to get max growth that way.

I have no doubts that it works on it's own but adding the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching takes it to a new level.
 
As I mentioned previously, I inject Trimix which includes PGE-1 as its main ingredient in order to achieve and maintain ( 1 to 2 hours) an erection. I have been injecting, on average, twice a week for just over a year. That comes out to a little over 100 injections. Although I do extending and pumping (air), I do not do them while I am under the influence of Trimix. As a result I have concluded that PGE-1 on its own has little or no influence on penile growth. Hopefully, you will find that combining your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with PGE-1 induced erections will have a positive effect on your penis. Good luck.
 
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makemebig;497462 said:
As I mentioned previously, I inject Trimix which includes PGE-1 as its main ingredient in order to achieve and maintain ( 1 to 2 hours) an erection. I have been injecting, on average, twice a week for just over a year. That comes out to a little over 100 injections. Although I do extending and pumping (air), I do not do them while I am under the influence of Trimix. As a result I have concluded that PGE-1 on its own has little or no influence on penile growth. Hopefully, you will find that combining your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with PGE-1 induced erections will have a positive effect on your penis. Good luck.
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That could be because you are only doing it for 1-2 hours at a time and for two days a week.

According to the online patent and the man who gained 1.5"x2" on it, the desired engorgement time is 15+ hours a week. That's about 3.75 hours erect, 4 days a week.

It seems the dose you are using would be more for EQ and not for enlargement.
 
makemebig;497462 said:
As I mentioned previously, I inject Trimix which includes PGE-1 as its main ingredient in order to achieve and maintain ( 1 to 2 hours) an erection. I have been injecting, on average, twice a week for just over a year. That comes out to a little over 100 injections. Although I do extending and pumping (air), I do not do them while I am under the influence of Trimix. As a result I have concluded that PGE-1 on its own has little or no influence on penile growth. Hopefully, you will find that combining your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with PGE-1 induced erections will have a positive effect on your penis. Good luck.
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I'm doing 4-5 hours average every other day, today was a special circumstance.

I'm also pulling my penis the whole time expanding the penis outward to where it really hurts.

2 hours is the absolute minimum DAILY number meaning every day of the week.

Many recommend that but I think like a bodybuilder, hit the muscle hard then let it recover. So I double that number and do every other day.
 
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8/21/12

Haven't done a session for 2 days, feel a little bad about that but work is crazy so I'm just trying to keep going.

Today was 5 hours with PGE-1 and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches at the end.

BTW I confirmed that you don't need the cock ring. In fact it is counter productive.
 
All I can tell you is what I experienced, it definitely stayed harder without the ring with less coaxing.

You can use it if you think it helps but the ring is not used for ED treatment or the Penis Enlargement case studies so I don't think it is necessary.
 
Interesting...
I tried an injection last night without tying off and it didn't last too long (could have been from fatigue though). My next dose (tomorrow) I am going to try tying off, just until it gets hard. Then I guess the dose after that, I will try tying off for half an hour and note if there is any difference between the three methods. I will of course use the same dose each time. And I'll post the results here and in my progress thread.

Kingsnake: Any chance you could post in your thread your Q & A with Roneille? It would be very much appreciated.
 
MikeShlort;498120 said:
Interesting...
I tried an injection last night without tying off and it didn't last too long
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How long does it typically last?
 
doublelongdaddy;498319 said:
How long does it typically last?
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It depends on the dose.
The dose I am on now is gauged for around 2 hours, then it starts to go down. From what I read, ideally you want 3-5 hours. Anything over 5 hours is dangerous and you have to start using abort tactics.

I have made it go 3 hours with edging and watching webcam sluts. However, I'm going to hold off on the edging and webcam sluts and just focus on the dose.

Petersouth is hitting it hard, going for 5 hour erections then doing a set of DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcores at the end, when the tissue is at its most pliable.

I was told by a doctor that he tells his patients to take the injection (once they are sure of the dose) then go to bed, so they will have erections all night. Night time erections are supposedly a good thing for gaining on PGE1.

Basically, you start at a low dose, time how long you are erect for, then slowly add small increments to the dose until it is lasting as long as you need it to.
 
Tied off during injection this time. Much better EQ. Had a solid erection for over 2 hours. Not 100% I can contribute this to tying off during injection (until erect), may have to do with the cardio I did today. Definitely a huge difference in EQ and erect time compared to tuesday.
 
MikeShlort;498397 said:
Tied off during injection this time. Much better EQ. Had a solid erection for over 2 hours. Not 100% I can contribute this to tying off during injection (until erect), may have to do with the cardio I did today. Definitely a huge difference in EQ and erect time compared to tuesday.
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What do you do with an erection lasting 2 hours?
 
Supra;498402 said:
What do you do with an erection lasting 2 hours?
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Watch tv, eat, cook, play guitar, read, post on the forums, edge, going to try lifting weights/sit ups on it if it doesn't make it go down..
Only thing I can't do right now is Penis Enlargement but eventually I will do some Penis Enlargement before, during and after a shot.

Petersouth does Penis Enlargement during his engorgement, near the end of his session.
 
MikeShlort;498435 said:
Watch tv, eat, cook, play guitar, read, post on the forums, edge, going to try lifting weights/sit ups on it if it doesn't make it go down..
Only thing I can't do right now is Penis Enlargement but eventually I will do some Penis Enlargement before, during and after a shot.

Petersouth does Penis Enlargement during his engorgement, near the end of his session.
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what is your length and girth now? and how long you been doing this?
 
Supra;498527 said:
Well im impressed, thats some good solid gains
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I'm not too impressed. I've put much work into Penis Enlargement and I have gained minimal. I read posts all the time of guys gainging an inch in length from 3 months of manuals. So I am not happy at all with the progress. Hence the PGE1 injection and adding hanging.
 
MikeShlort;498539 said:
I'm not too impressed. I've put much work into Penis Enlargement and I have gained minimal. I read posts all the time of guys gainging an inch in length from 3 months of manuals. So I am not happy at all with the progress. Hence the PGE1 injection and adding hanging.
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not everyone that says they made gains in 3 months is telling the truth, like i said, pics or it didnt happen..dont be discouraged. penis enlargement is very hard the fact that you have made gains be happy about that accomplishment and continue on the same path.
 
Supra;498547 said:
not everyone that says they made gains in 3 months is telling the truth, like i said, pics or it didnt happen..dont be discouraged. penis enlargement is very hard the fact that you have made gains be happy about that accomplishment and continue on the same path.
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Right on, thanks man
 
Geez Mike taking over my thread.

Anyway I have a fucked up story to tell, brace yourselves and learn from my mistakes.

8/23

I started my workout at 8PM, I had planned to go 8-12 or so. Well I fucked up the injection, not deep enough and I was pissed and decided to say screw it. But around midnight I started to feel guilty missing my routine. So I did another 10mcg injection this time and buried it, it worked great. 10mcg is definitely my sweet spot right now.

So it's 2AM and I'm thinking I've got to get some sleep because I have a lot of things to do tomorrow at work. So I decide to sleep on the couch, I didn't have an alarm set but I figured I hardly ever sleep more than a couple hours anyway but I took a melatonin and...

Here's what happened:

I woke up at 6:30 still semi-erect. I had been erect for 6 and a half hours! Holy shit! Fuck!

So first thing I do is shake it out and make sure it is not blue or black and it goes flaccid pretty quick. The thing was like a piece of rubber, I had hardly any feeling at all, completely non-responsive. Usually even after a long session I can get hard if I want to. I was had a bad feeling I had completely destroyed my dick. Fortunately it wasn't black or blue or anything but I could not get an erection to save my life. For the next two hours I tried everything to convince myself that it was still alive and I couldn't get it to do much of anything.

In a panic I injected BPC 157, a peptide that is being used experimentally to treat wounds from surgeries, nerve damage, brain damage, crushing trauma, etc. I had been researching it because I had a rotator cuff problem and it worked so I figured if there was a time to try it on my dick this was it. I injected 10mcg of that into my thin, rubbery, lifeless member along with systemic injections of GH peptides CJC 1295 and TB400.
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Before I left for work at 9:00AM I managed to get something vaguely resembling an erection by rubbing the head furiously while watching adult entertainment the best I could get is a normal flaccid state vs full turtle.

Every hour at work I went to the bathroom and did the same thing trying to get and keep blood flowing. Throughout the day it got slowly better and by the end of the day I was able to stimulate myself to an ok 90% or so erection with good sensation. Not great but I think most of that is attributed to the strain on the tissues. Fuck, I had to go through the whole day not knowing if I'd ever be able to use my dick again. Now I think I just need a day or two to recover, the tissue is just really sore from the unnatural trauma I put it through.

I'm never falling asleep for a minute with this shit ever again. Hopefully there is not permanent damage, EQ and pliability continues to improve so I am hopeful. It's starting to plump back up again.

Needless to say I didn't get any [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches in.
 
^ sorry for jacking your thread, lol.

This is probably a good time to get some stretching in (manual flaccid stretches, not [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]), if you are a little less nerve racked.

I think what happened was there was still PGE1 inside your penis from the first dose, then doing a full dose 4 hours later caused you to overdose. The doctor I spoke to about this says he recommends to others that they take the dose before bedtime (once they have figured out their proper dose) so they have solid night time erections all night. I have not done this yet, but I am going to do both approaches: yours (being awake the whole time then working the dick once the erection subsides because it is in a weakened state) and the doctors (doing the dose before bed so I have a night full of getting rock hard erections, which also would promote growth by fresh blood flow and constant expansion).

Just something to think about. Also, check out king snake's posts in your thread and in Mistake's PGE1 trial thread. He has some interesting things to say about this. He deserves credit, he researches his shit thoroughly.
 
No problem.

I have been stretching like every hour most of the day to get it back to life.

I could have overdosed a little since some of it probably made it in there but 4 hours went by and I never got an erection so I figured it was a total loss. I could see it was kind of built up under the skin too.

You could probably do a session and then go to sleep on the tail end like after 4 hours or so but I'd not want to take a full dose and sleep 8 hours, you could wake up permafucked. I would think the dose has to be much lower.

I would think as long as you are not masturbating you would have good night time erections anyway. No?
 
Ya that's true. I'll let you know what happens when I try it.

He also told me that if I miss the proper spot it will do just that, form a pocket under the skin. A way to tell if you aren't in the spongy tissue is if when you push the plunger of the syringe down, it gives resistance.
 
MikeShlort;498573 said:
Ya that's true. I'll let you know what happens when I try it.

He also told me that if I miss the proper spot it will do just that, form a pocket under the skin. A way to tell if you aren't in the spongy tissue is if when you push the plunger of the syringe down, it gives resistance.
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Another good test is to pull back on the plunger once you have injected. If you draw blood into the syringe, you are in the cc.
 
makemebig;498576 said:
Another good test is to pull back on the plunger once you have injected. If you draw blood into the syringe, you are in the cc.
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and be sure there are no air bubbles!
 
Don't be too afraid of air bubbles.

I do an average of 5 or 6 intramuscular or subcutaneous injections a day, with these injections there is literally no worry. Unless you are injecting an oil based compound you don't have to aspirate, the main concern there is accidentally injecting oil into an artery.

Now this kind of injection I'm not 100% sure but since it tends to stay local and its water based you probably don't have to worry too much about aspiration, I never have. You would need to mainline like a full CC of air to kill yourself and this stuff being pre mixed it is easy not to draw too much air at all. Sure, be careful but don't drive yourself crazy.

Main thing is to totally bury the needle in there, I had it in pretty good but not far enough.
 
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Everything is back to normal now so I'll be back at it again tonight.

BTW this is the first week I actually hit the target of 15 hours - in 3 sessions!
 
8/26

AM
1 set manual stretches in each direction 30 seconds each
1 set 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] straight pumping

Wore [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] throughout the day except at the gym under low tension

PM
10mcg PGE1
200 jelqs
3 sets DLD harcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Stretches

1 set manual stretches in each direction
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] 1 hour


Still don't have a solution for night time anti-turtle. I ordered one of these like someone suggested
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027CU1MQ?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Hopefully I can wear it at night, so far the jims wrap has been too irritating

The interesting thing about doing the morning [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session is the added girth lasted through evening so when I added the PGE-1 which gave me a much fatter rock hard dick. I'm trying this to see if it will help my girth results which so far have been minimal.
 
petersouth;498839 said:
8/26

AM
1 set manual stretches in each direction 30 seconds each
1 set 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] straight pumping

Wore [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] throughout the day except at the gym under low tension

PM
10mcg PGE1
200 jelqs
3 sets DLD harcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Stretches

1 set manual stretches in each direction [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] 1 hour


Still don't have a solution for night time anti-turtle. I ordered one of these like someone suggested
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027CU1MQ?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Hopefully I can wear it at night, so far the jims wrap has been too irritating

The interesting thing about doing the morning [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session is the added girth lasted through evening so when I added the PGE-1 which gave me a much fatter rock hard dick. I'm trying this to see if it will help my girth results which so far have been minimal.
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That thing you ordered looks like it may be irritating as well.
Try a divosuit from Ronielle's site (divocup.com). It's like a spandex "sock" that keeps your flaccid stretched, but not as thick as spandex. I own a few sizes, I find them comfortable, but I do not wear them for any length of time (prefer my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] during day and nothing at night). Maybe something to check out. They are 15 bucks for two, plus shipping. The good thing about them is they stretch so you can get erections all night no problem, I would imagine. Not restricting at all. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jim[/words]'s wrap leaves discoloration (in my case) and is way too tight. Something to consider, probably the safest and most flexible alternative. You can also get two sizes to make up differences in flaccid sizes. Just mention in the paypal memo to Ronielle that you want a different size for your bonus divosuit.
 
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