Peter South's PGE1 (caverject) Experiment

Hey Peter, how much have you grown so far? Are using any PABA or anything else that softens collagen?

Also, I was wondering if anyone looked into prp or prfm (platelet rich fibrin matrix) injections? Its basicly a platelet concentrate thats activated just prior to injection to release their growth factors and build a fibrin matrix that acts as a scaffold for new cells. Its what makes u heal when u cut yourself. I came across this quite randomly... and found some (fishy looking) doctors that have started to use it for erectile dysfunction and even penis growth (with mixed results). So i did a little research and it turns out that this use might be valid as i came across a couple studies done on patients that underwent prostate surgery and found that it resorted erectile function. PRFM has been used for years in dentistry to promote healing after surgery, and its well established that the growth factors released by platelets are what kick start angiogenesis for wound healing.

I have the feeling that if such injections are done regularly rather than just the one time, they can increase growth (much more so in combination with PGE1). I may even be tempted to start my own experiments....on my hamster :P
 
markj71;510225 said:
I may even be tempted to start my own experiments....on my hamster :P
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lol...what is his BPenis EnlargementL? ;)
 
I don't really care much about adding other things. 1/4 inch per month is fast enough. I grew almost 3/4 and then I lost some being out for a few weeks.

I'll get back to 6.75 this month and 7 next month. Then I'll have another 3-4 months to get to 8, I don't see anything stopping that.

I did 2 days on and 2 days off, I'm probably not going to do that again because it's very sore. It looks like it grew a little though girth wise.
 
petersouth;510370 said:
I don't really care much about adding other things. 1/4 inch per month is fast enough. I grew almost 3/4 and then I lost some being out for a few weeks.

I'll get back to 6.75 this month and 7 next month. Then I'll have another 3-4 months to get to 8, I don't see anything stopping that.

I did 2 days on and 2 days off, I'm probably not going to do that again because it's very sore. It looks like it grew a little though girth wise.
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I pretty much had similar results with my 2 month experiment, 1/4 inch per month. Although, i was running 4 grams of oral paba a day as well, which tells me the paba may not have helped as much as i assumed. I was doing 7mcg, 4 consecutive days a week, the rest of the week off. And yes the soreness was crazy, injection pain was a bit much at times.... I had to stop 2 month in because Caverject was no longer available where i am.

but seriously wow, come to think of it, that's a possible 3 inches a year!!! you'll be runnin with the big hamsters in no time ;) (i gotta get back on it:s)
 
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markj71;510375 said:
I pretty much had similar results with my 2 month experiment, 1/4 inch per month. Although, i was running 4 grams of oral paba a day as well, which tells me the paba may not have helped as much as i assumed. I was doing 7mcg, 4 consecutive days a week, the rest of the week off. And yes the soreness was crazy, injection pain was a bit much at times.... I had to stop 2 month in because Caverject was no longer available where i am.

but seriously wow, come to think of it, that's a possible 3 inches a year!!! you'll be runnin with the big hamsters in no time ;) (i gotta get back on it:s)
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That's good to know.

I tried the oral paba as well and I don't think it does much, that was my impression.
 
MikeShlort;513535 said:
Where you at peter, you're starting to have me worried.
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Now you know how I have felt for the past ten years! It is so frustrating when a brother is absent, we worry and we care...This says so much about the people we have around the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Forum. I will spend part of everyday bumping old member threads, sending PM's and emailing people who have gone absent, it is amazing how important our fellow members are. Your a good guy Mike and I appreciate your wisdom, help and care!
 
Seriously Petersouth. Come back bro. You, me and Mistake have an obligation to our fellow members to see if chemical Penis Enlargement works.
 
Seems to be typical of chemical Penis Enlargement experiments. Lots of enthusiasm in the beginning while showing some initial positive results. I have yet to follow a chemical Penis Enlargement thread that was carried out to a conclusion. In every case, the thread starter abandons the thread and is rarely heard from again.
 
kingsnake;513900 said:
seriously petersouth. Come back bro. You, me and mistake have an obligation to our fellow members to see if chemical pe works.
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agree!
 
makemebig;513938 said:
Seems to be typical of chemical Penis Enlargement experiments. Lots of enthusiasm in the beginning while showing some initial positive results. I have yet to follow a chemical Penis Enlargement thread that was carried out to a conclusion. In every case, the thread starter abandons the thread and is rarely heard from again.
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Well in my case I'm abandoning it to focus on hanging, since I may very well have over an inch of possible lig stretch to gain, and then tunica hanging gains before I start mucking around with exercises, devices and chemicals that cause an omnidirectional expansion in penis size. Just the logical approach. You can keep tabs on my thread though, about a year from now or more I will be back on PGE1 for 18 months minimum, providing I can still get it (knock on wood). I'm sure kingsnake is going to keep at it, seems like having the world's biggest penis is his destiny.
 
MikeShlort;514000 said:
Well in my case I'm abandoning it to focus on hanging, since I may very well have over an inch of possible lig stretch to gain, and then tunica hanging gains before I start mucking around with exercises, devices and chemicals that cause an omnidirectional expansion in penis size. Just the logical approach. You can keep tabs on my thread though, about a year from now or more I will be back on PGE1 for 18 months minimum, providing I can still get it (knock on wood). I'm sure kingsnake is going to keep at it, seems like having the world's biggest penis is his destiny.
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Believe, none of the information goes on deaf ears...the data is very valuable!
 
I wonder is the pain from PGE1 injections too much that people just give up or is that the results are just not worth the effort?
 
Peter was doing great, I imagine it's just personal reasons he isn't continuing. Or maybe he's still doing the program and just said fuck it to posting. Either way, I can understand if he just feels like taking hours to work on his penis for women is retarded since most women are shit, I feel this way a lot of the time as well. The one thing that keeps me going is I like my reflection to show a large member.
 
This may have been mentioned already and I certainly don't know much about chemical Penis Enlargement at all but a quick research on Prostaglandin revealed the following possible adverse effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostaglandin_E1

Apnea
Flushing
bradycardia
hypotension
tachycardia
cardiac arrest
edema
CHF
hyperemia
second-degree heart block
shock
spasm of right ventricle infundibulum
supraventricular tachycardia
ventricular fibrillation
Fever
seizures
Cerebral bleeding
Diarrhea
Urethral pain
urethral burning
urethral bleeding/spotting
testicular pain ( Muse only)
Hematologic
DIC
bleeding
Cortical proliferation of long bones
sepsis
penile pain
prolonged erection
penile fibrosis
injection-site hematoma
penis disorder
injection-site ecchymosis ( Caverject only)
back pain
pain
pelvic pain
accidental injury ( Muse only)

Guys, be careful injecting things into your body. Not trying to be a downer or insinuate that anyone doesn't know what they're doing. Just saying, this scares the shit out of me.
 
neognostic;514155 said:
This may have been mentioned already and I certainly don't know much about chemical Penis Enlargement at all but a quick research on Prostaglandin revealed the following possible adverse effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostaglandin_E1

Apnea
Flushing
bradycardia
hypotension
tachycardia
cardiac arrest
edema
CHF
hyperemia
second-degree heart block
shock
spasm of right ventricle infundibulum
supraventricular tachycardia
ventricular fibrillation
Fever
seizures
Cerebral bleeding
Diarrhea
Urethral pain
urethral burning
urethral bleeding/spotting
testicular pain ( Muse only)
Hematologic
DIC
bleeding
Cortical proliferation of long bones
sepsis
penile pain
prolonged erection
penile fibrosis
injection-site hematoma
penis disorder
injection-site ecchymosis ( Caverject only)
back pain
pain
pelvic pain
accidental injury ( Muse only)

Guys, be careful injecting things into your body. Not trying to be a downer or insinuate that anyone doesn't know what they're doing. Just saying, this scares the shit out of me.
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My God! I almost thought this was spam and I almost erased your account! Thank goodness I triple check:)
 
I have been injecting Trimix which includes PGE1 as one of its major components two to three times a week for over a year (for ED) and have not, other than occasional penal pain, experienced any of the negative side effects mentioned on the list. As a regular user of Trimix/PGE1, I have done a lot of research on the potential negative side effects. In this regard, I have learned that a small minority do experience one or more of the listed problems and they usually feel the negative effects after the first one or two injections and quickly cease injecting. The one exception is Priapism if you overdose. However, I have had discussions with a number of guys who have been injecting for five or more years without ever experiencing any of the side effects mentioned.
 
makemebig;514333 said:
I have been injecting Trimix which includes PGE1 as one of its major components two to three times a week for over a year (for ED) and have not, other than occasional penal pain, experienced any of the negative side effects mentioned on the list. As a regular user of Trimix/PGE1, I have done a lot of research on the potential negative side effects. In this regard, I have learned that a small minority do experience one or more of the listed problems and they usually feel the negative effects after the first one or two injections and quickly cease injecting. The one exception is Priapism if you overdose. However, I have had discussions with a number of guys who have been injecting for five or more years without ever experiencing any of the side effects mentioned.
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You are more qualified than anyone then. Did this stuff actually cause you to grow?
 
neognostic;514155 said:
This may have been mentioned already and I certainly don't know much about chemical Penis Enlargement at all but a quick research on Prostaglandin revealed the following possible adverse effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostaglandin_E1

Apnea
Flushing
bradycardia
hypotension
tachycardia
cardiac arrest
edema
CHF
hyperemia
second-degree heart block
shock
spasm of right ventricle infundibulum
supraventricular tachycardia
ventricular fibrillation
Fever
seizures
Cerebral bleeding
Diarrhea
Urethral pain
urethral burning
urethral bleeding/spotting
testicular pain ( Muse only)
Hematologic
DIC
bleeding
Cortical proliferation of long bones
sepsis
penile pain
prolonged erection
penile fibrosis
injection-site hematoma
penis disorder
injection-site ecchymosis ( Caverject only)
back pain
pain
pelvic pain
accidental injury ( Muse only)

Guys, be careful injecting things into your body. Not trying to be a downer or insinuate that anyone doesn't know what they're doing. Just saying, this scares the shit out of me.
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Damn yo I got all those.:O
 
MikeShlort;513535 said:
Where you at peter, you're starting to have me worried.
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What's up man, I've been busy. I didn't kill any hookers.

I'm going to be starting up again, I've been too personally disorganized lately and I didn't want to continue doing things half assed.

Anyone know where to get one of those [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sleeves you all were talking about earlier? I just ordered a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words], does that need something different? I need something to make the skin problems more tolerable so I can go every day, that was the main problem before.
 
petersouth;515400 said:
What's up man, I've been busy. I didn't kill any hookers.

I'm going to be starting up again, I've been too personally disorganized lately and I didn't want to continue doing things half assed.

Anyone know where to get one of those [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sleeves you all were talking about earlier? I just ordered a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words], does that need something different? I need something to make the skin problems more tolerable so I can go every day, that was the main problem before.
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There he is! Good to see you, peter.

Ask King Cobra about the sleeves, he knows the link. Post a message in his thread or something, he'll answer, he's a good guy. His thread is called "growing that monster snake"
 
petersouth;515400 said:
What's up man, I've been busy. I didn't kill any hookers.

I'm going to be starting up again, I've been too personally disorganized lately and I didn't want to continue doing things half assed.

Anyone know where to get one of those [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sleeves you all were talking about earlier? I just ordered a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words], does that need something different? I need something to make the skin problems more tolerable so I can go every day, that was the main problem before.
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Welcome home my Brother! We will be carrying sleeves in a couple days (in addition to many other pop items) making it easier for everyone to find what the need.
 
So I go to measure today

NBPL: 6.5
EG: 4.75"

LOL

Lost 1/4 inch of girth, almost no length.

My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] is on its way as of today, I ordered it earlier but there was a problem with my card.

What I'll do tonight is shave, superglue the pad back onto my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and do a 15 minute session to get back into the spirit.
 
doublelongdaddy;516103 said:
Welcome home my Brother! We will be carrying sleeves in a couple days (in addition to many other pop items) making it easier for everyone to find what the need.
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Thanks DLD!

Had to order the sleeves somewhere else because I need them now but I got the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] from your link.
 
There's going to be some changes with my research animal. His name is Ferris and this is his day off.

CJC with DAC 500mcg DAILY combined with Ipamorelin 100mcg 3x/day (already started)

Anecdotal evidence suggests this yields somewhere around 8-10iu GH continuous stream throughout the day which is anabolic dose much like a bodybuilder would use. This will test my theory that an anabolic dose of GH is needed to enhance growth as opposed to the fat burning dosage used by everyone else. We are not trying to burn fat here we are trying to grow. High doses of GH are known to cause ORGAN growth and I want my animal to have a big organ.

I can attest that it is anabolic because I'm already seeing muscle growth and fat is melting off, this is far more dramatic than CJC w/o DAC. His skin and hair are glowing which tells me this is having a very good effect on collagen turnover.

To speed recovery and enhance size he will also need BPC-157 administered daily. Perhaps it will enhance growth since it generates collagen and repairs nerve and connective tissue. Why not?

The other addition is hydrocortizone cream after a session, should help with skin irritation.

So I want 1/2 inch per month now, I feel I have the advanced materials and knowledge assembled to take a run at it.

I can't really start in earnest until I get pump sleeves and BPC 157 so until then I'll stick with manual stretching after the PGE1 session but it will be every day.

It's almost D-Day for Ferris, poor little prick.
 
So the last couple days not much, work has been hell, got sick, have to work anyway.

I've been having Ferris do kegel holds as explained in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words].

I didn't have much time so I tried out the new [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] today and did a 10 minute session.
 
Let me safe you alot of time,money and dissapointment.I spend couple years and more then 20.000 dollars on chemical penisenlargement.

length: negative
girth: a little.But no any significant difference when using only girth excersises.
 
10InchPriority;516927 said:
Let me safe you alot of time,money and dissapointment.I spend couple years and more then 20.000 dollars on chemical penisenlargement.

length: negative
girth: a little.But no any significant difference when using only girth excersises.
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That's too bad.

Well everybody I'm sorry this experiment has failed, nothing to see here folks.

Meanwhile back at the lab...
 
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I had the godamned [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]comfort pad[/words] on sideways and my pubic hair had grown a lot. It wouldn't pump for shit.

Once I shaved and got the hang of it it worked much better, I think more powerful than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. Nice that you can lock the top.
 
bigdex28;516948 said:
Hey peter have you started back taking the PGE1 injections again?
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Still working up my nerve, maybe tonight.

I've been doing an easy 10-15 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session in the morning to kind of work back in while avoiding any skin irritation that would prevent evening injections.

I'd like to keep that going indefinitely because I think it hangs better throughout the day.
 
petersouth;517243 said:
Still working up my nerve, maybe tonight.

I've been doing an easy 10-15 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session in the morning to kind of work back in while avoiding any skin irritation that would prevent evening injections.

I'd like to keep that going indefinitely because I think it hangs better throughout the day.
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I find that one days I work out or do anything for an hour that gets my heart rate up that injecting doesn't hurt nearly as much as it does on days that I have just worked but not gone to the gym or biked.
 
bigdex28;516932 said:
10InchPriority can you ellaborate on what your ChemPenis Enlargement regime was and what exercises you were doing?
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Bigdex28,

The main things I used are Pge1,Igf-1,igf-lr3,mgf,hgh,DHT and probably other things that I cant remember.

On the days I was injecting pge-1 I had a couple of hours erection followed by another couple hours of lower erection , so basicly you can't do a lot of exercises with a erection.When the erection reduced enough I was doing the exercises that you can find on this site.

Also if you want my advice go do your own research as their are people on the internet who use pge-1 the wrong way and they litteraly fucked up their penis and need 100 time the average dose to get erect.Also Don't inject each day ( Its to bad and one of the reasons why it doesnt work very well) because it will lead that your penis tissue( pge1 receptors) become very insensitive to pge-1.Also injecting each day ( forget about injecting couple times a day) there is a bigger chance of getting a priapism, most likely because the next dose is cumulative.

Good luck.
 
10InchPriority;517662 said:
Bigdex28,

The main things I used are Pge1,Igf-1,igf-lr3,mgf,hgh,DHT and probably other things that I cant remember.

On the days I was injecting pge-1 I had a couple of hours erection followed by another couple hours of lower erection , so basicly you can't do a lot of exercises with a erection.When the erection reduced enough I was doing the exercises that you can find on this site.

Also if you want my advice go do your own research as their are people on the internet who use pge-1 the wrong way and they litteraly fucked up their penis and need 100 time the average dose to get erect.Also Don't inject each day ( Its to bad and one of the reasons why it doesnt work very well) because it will lead that your penis tissue( pge1 receptors) become very insensitive to pge-1.Also injecting each day ( forget about injecting couple times a day) there is a bigger chance of getting a priapism, most likely because the next dose is cumulative.

Good luck.
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I think most of the stuff other than PGE1 is bunk. PGE1 definitely works, the only question is the best way to use it. I heard people say that injecting every day the results they got are much faster, some form of training every day is definitely the way to go.

OTOH the doctors in the patent were giving doses 3-5x per week. Honestly I was more than satisfied with my growth last time and I was barely doing it every other day 1/4 of an inch per month is pretty good.

One thought I had was to do PGE1 day 1 and DMSO/paba day 2 and alternate. Basically I would do the PGE1/Bathmate HC/Manual Stretches day 1 and day 2 would be DMSO/Paba/Newbie Routine. That would prevent developing too much of a tolerance quicky.

The key would be finding ways of keeping the dose low as long as possible, that could allow for more potential down the road.
 
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Since my last post on 11/11 I've been waking up every morning and doing standard [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pumping sets 10-15 minutes.

This morning I did a set of manual stretches from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] then 10 minutes of pumping.

Ferris got his evening injection of 10mcg PGE1, 4 hours followed by 3 sets DLD Hardcore stretches.

An interesting development is that after 4 hours at a reduced dose and 3 sets of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches, the hamster is still standing at attention. I think this may have to do with all the PC exercises from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] I've been having him do while taking time off from Penis Enlargement. I never really did them before and I've noticed much harder erections.

One interesting twist: doing them with Myostatin inhibitors. Really brought the PC muscle up quick.

Expansion after pumping, 5 3/4. Not sure if I got there before.
 
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Another injection

10mcg seems to be too much now, looks like my tolerance went back to square one.

Erection lasted almost 7 hours and I couldn't find any sudafed but I had some benadryl. Wasn't easy to get rid of, had to spend an hour exercising to get rid of it

After [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches girth was up to 6.25. I credit removing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]comfort pad[/words] from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], stretches work better without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]comfort pad[/words].

I still use the X-40e, can't really get the hang of the new one.
 
Damn too bad you got the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words], from what I read [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penomet[/words] is the way to go. I even read that it reverses discoloration
 
petersouth;520503 said:
I still use the X-40e, can't really get the hang of the new one.
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The valve is tricky to figure out but worth the time invested, once mastered it is much more powerful than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. I spent a whole day studying and trying it out.
 
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