I dont think any device is perfect and all cna be used to gain. ven just parts (for example Supras ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] where he used the head of PF only) etc. I wouldnt go that far calling PF crap.
It has its place, even if you would use it only for sleep it can add you 8hrs of enolgated state.

runningignus: As said above, if you get frustrated with PF on/off why dont just use it at night ? I can go whole 8hrs without waking up and use the PF perfect, taking it on just once and off after 8hrs.

huge-girth: After investing almost 300 dollars I wouldnt just throw the device to trash, thats all. It can do you amazingly well for elongated healing at least.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 2x a day sounds perfect, I might do the same + PF during sleep and Il be golden.
 
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No, I'm not trashing the PF. I've had it long enough to know any flaws and upgrades it needs. I get more than 15 hours a day, including sleeping with it on, so I'm happy with it. The frustration is in the continuous on/off. Months of the same thing is what kills me. I'll get my length and then have no need to keep wearing it, might just keep it for sleeping but it'll be bothersome with me gaining girth. I'll figure out what I want soon enough. It will be great for my psyche to keep it off. That's all. I've been trying to consider saving it for my son. Who knows. It definitely has its place in PE. I know that I won't be able to wear it once I get my flaccid girth up more.
 
I'm done with my 1 hour bundled stretches for today. Tomorrow night I will start my girth session. The update for tomorrow will be coming late because I will have to finish my girth session at midnight first.
 
huge-girth;680598 said:
I'm done with my 1 hour bundled stretches for today. Tomorrow night I will start my girth session. The update for tomorrow will be coming late because I will have to finish my girth session at midnight first.

yeah i think i need to have girth session every other day n take things easy cause i wouldnt be able to have them both everyday:P
 
I want to see if I can do girth and length together even if I'm able to do only one 30mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session daily together with two girth session, I will be satisfied. I just need 1 inch in length this year and 1.5 inches in girth.
 
I'm done with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session for today, it only lasted for 50mins due to interruption. I started doing kegel yesterday and masturbated 4 times because I was too horny. My erection is so poor today, I will smoke marijuana tonight and see if it will help the Viagra for my first girth session.
 
Shame, Shame, shame brother lol.
Can't wait until March, I hope I get some great gains on my birthday the 27th, and then I'll be looking for your new gains after that. Also can't wait until my viagra gets here.
 
runningignus;680814 said:
Shame, Shame, shame brother lol.
Can't wait until March, I hope I get some great gains on my birthday the 27th, and then I'll be looking for your new gains after that. Also can't wait until my viagra gets here.

I'm happy about starting girth work.
 
huge-girth;680800 said:
I will smoke marijuana tonight and see if it will help the Viagra for my first girth session.

Of course that will work! :) I whacked 4 times a couple days ago, I was horny for some reason. The next day I was pretty sore and eq was low so I popped a Viagra and smoked my pipe and got a raging hard on!
 
doublelongdaddy;680825 said:
Of course that will work! :) I whacked 4 times a couple days ago, I was horny for some reason. The next day I was pretty sore and eq was low so I popped a Viagra and smoked my pipe and got a raging hard on!

It worked. I just finished my girth session. I pumped for 5 mins and then I did 3 reps of 1 mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words]. As written below:

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

I had very good expansion, right under the glans 6 inches, mid girth 6.5 inches and base girth 7 inches. This is my first girth session. I will start doing two girth sessions from tomorrow. I will take off the cockring in an hour time before going to bed.
 
It's morning here, 9:11am and I woke up with an expansion of 6 inches which makes it difficult for me to do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles. It is obvious that I cannot combine the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles with my girth routine therefore, I'm going all out on girth. I'm concentrating on girth henceforth. Two girth sessions daily. I'm about starting my morning girth session now with an expansion of 6 inches and whereas my original girth size is 5.6 inches. I'm going to gain girth real quick.
 
huge-girth;680860 said:
It worked. I just finished my girth session. I pumped for 5 mins and then I did 3 reps of 1 mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words]. As written below:

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

I had very good expansion, right under the glans 6 inches, mid girth 6.5 inches and base girth 7 inches. This is my first girth session. I will start doing two girth sessions from tomorrow. I will take off the cockring in an hour time before going to bed.


This routine is so powerfull bro, altho I get best expansion keepeing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] sets at approx 7-8mins, above that its too much
 
huge-girth;680895 said:
It's morning here, 9:11am and I woke up with an expansion of 6 inches which makes it difficult for me to do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles. It is obvious that I cannot combine the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles with my girth routine therefore, I'm going all out on girth. I'm concentrating on girth henceforth. Two girth sessions daily. I'm about starting my morning girth session now with an expansion of 6 inches and whereas my original girth size is 5.6 inches. I'm going to gain girth real quick.

If your happy with your length that awesome and great do do girth 2x a day. Altho it seems like you change your mind of what you gonna do very often.
As long as you do something each day Im happy for you brother. Getting massive.
 
BigBeardBig;680900 said:
If your happy with your length that awesome and great do do girth 2x a day. Altho it seems like you change your mind of what you gonna do very often.
As long as you do something each day Im happy for you brother. Getting massive.

Yes bro, I'm an unstable person but right about now, I'm sticking to girth only and I will still get to 8 inches even without training length. Most people gain some sort of length from girth work. I've been training length since 2008 off and on and I went from 5 inches top measurement to 7.2 inches (Bent penis measured with a ruler). It's time I do something else. Trust me this time, I won't change this routine, girth only.

I've always envied Shane diesel but today I believe I'm longer than him in length with almost half inch. Time to surpass him in girth. I've just finished my girth session this morning, I repeated the above routine. It feels good stretching pussies with this temporary expansion.
 
Thats great, surpassing Shane Diesel in girth is crazy. About the temp expansion I know what you mean.
I once blindfolded my wife after girth work, didnt show her the dick, got cockring and when I started inserting the penis inside she was like "whaaattt theee fffff........"
 
huge-girth;680895 said:
It's morning here, 9:11am and I woke up with an expansion of 6 inches which makes it difficult for me to do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles. It is obvious that I cannot combine the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles with my girth routine therefore, I'm going all out on girth. I'm concentrating on girth henceforth. Two girth sessions daily. I'm about starting my morning girth session now with an expansion of 6 inches and whereas my original girth size is 5.6 inches. I'm going to gain girth real quick.

5.56 to 6 inches in girth you are 3 days away from your goal..
 
huge-girth;680913 said:
Yes bro, I'm an unstable person but right about now, I'm sticking to girth only and I will still get to 8 inches even without training length. Most people gain some sort of length from girth work. I've been training length since 2008 off and on and I went from 5 inches top measurement to 7.2 inches (Bent penis measured with a ruler). It's time I do something else. Trust me this time, I won't change this routine, girth only.

I've always envied Shane diesel but today I believe I'm longer than him in length with almost half inch. Time to surpass him in girth. I've just finished my girth session this morning, I repeated the above routine. It feels good stretching pussies with this temporary expansion.

Damn you are impressive surpassing a famous adult entertainment actor thats really something!
 
huge-girth;680895 said:
I'm going to gain girth real quick.

Awesome way to approach this, if you make it simple in your head this will transfer to the penis and growth.
 
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