I believe its the same. I will be measuring by 29th of March. I don't really care about my flaccid size. My erect size is all that matters to me.
 
I'm done with my bundled stretches for today, I did my 1 hour bundles and I'm still wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] until my bed time. I want to start doing cardio from tomorrow and I will also reduce my food intake. I also need to look for the fat pad exercise dld told me about.
 
huge-girth;680289 said:
I believe its the same. I will be measuring by 29th of March. I don't really care about my flaccid size. My erect size is all that matters to me.

yeah but dont you think that a nice flaccid can be a good thing to have too:cool:
 
Getting a nice flaccid will be a good thing. It all boils down to getting rid of the fat pad too. I'm done with today's bundled stretches. I'm still wearing my pf. I'm thinking if I should stop updating my progress log daily.
 
No way man, keep us updated daily. I find it a great way to no get off the track and you goals.
Pretty much only because I read your thread daily I started wear my PF more often throughtout the day, you huge-girth motivated me to do so.
 
I'm motivated to continue updating my log then. Another thing I have in mind is if I should just dedicate the whole of 2016 to length work and get to 9 inches bone pressed.

I don't know why that 9 inches penis keeps disturbing my mind even when I'm a hard gainer in length. Girth on the other hand is very easy for me. I'm really confuse. I know a lot of women will love it if I have a 9 X 7+ penis.

Now that shortdick has won the grand prize, he has all the required per tools to join me and bigbeardbig is also running this race with us. But I see you are training girth too. I wish I can start train girth as well. I like to concentrate on one exercise at a time though. Let March 29th come and by then I will fully decide what my length goal will be. Girth keeps calling me.
 
What is your philosophy behind only concentraiting on either length or girth and not both together ?
DId you do it in the past and it did not work for you ? Id like to read more about it. me personally if Im still gaining both I dont see reason to do only length or just only girth.
 
I don't have the ability to concentrate and do both exercises on same day. But I might try it once again maybe in the coming week or so. But if I focus on girth only, I will gain faster because I intend doing 2 sessions per day.
 
I've just thrown my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] away because the condom sleeve is bad and my auto sleeves is not tight. All I have now is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. I'm thinking of starting girth work along with constant [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] stretches. I'm frustrated already. This might just be the end of length work for me.

Tomorrow, I will try a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session for 2 days and see how it feels.
 
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Hey man there are plenty of stuff you can buy on ebay that will server you well. It would be shame not to use you PF after this.
ALtho you can never go wrong with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] :D
 
The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is bad for me, no form of wrapping helps with blood circulation. I've decided to go with 1 hour bundled stretches and a 1 hour [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session daily. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] remains the best length tool out there. I wish you know how much I've spent on pe tools since 2008, you will pity me. This year, I've vowed to work on girth and the only way for me to stick to my original 9 X 7+ goal is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] combo.
 
Yea I know about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] issue and it is very easy to make [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] 10/10 tool if you got with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod.
Here is the mod that solves the circulation issues once and for all

You can see pics there how exactly it will help you with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. The circulation problem is completely gone and guys are able to go as much as 4hours without taking it off, absolutely no circulation problem.
Even for bathroom breaks, it takes like 10-15 secs to take in on/off.
 
My mind is made up now, I won't spend a dime anymore for a length device. The only thing I can buy in the nearest future is cockring and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X50[/words]. I can still get to 9 inches with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles from now till December. Its all a matter of consistency. Henceforth, its length and girth together. My mind has been made up.
 
No problem bro, just trying to help :)
As said, there is tons of cheap stuff on ebay that can easily solve your PF problem. I wouldnt throw such a big investment, as PF must have been, away.

Length and girth together is definately what I would do and have always done.
 
BigBeardBig;680466 said:
No problem bro, just trying to help :)
As said, there is tons of cheap stuff on ebay that can easily solve your PF problem. I wouldnt throw such a big investment, as PF must have been, away.

Length and girth together is definately what I would do and have always done.

The PF is crap as far as I'm concern. It has spare parts problem whereas the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] doesn't need any replacement, you just buy it and use it for eternity. PE is all about using devices that you are addicted to. My addiction is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. I know you were only trying to help and I'd thank you for that. I've moved on. I've gained half inch in length doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles for 3 months last year. I can gain 1.5 inches in length with the same routine because with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles, it's impossible to hit a plateau. From Monday, I will start length and girth training together.
 
Good that you made up your mind.
Hit up the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] in the morning followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], then throw on a cock ring and just keep manual stretching throughout the day. Then hit it again at night if you can. That way your doing length the most but you'll still gain girth since it's easy for you to. Split with stretching and jelqing. Best of both worlds. That will be my routine in the coming months.
I'll be in your shoes soon as well. The PF will be gone and just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with stretches throughout the day. The constant on and off of the PF wears you down after so long. It tears and stretches so easily. Get yourself a good routine and tear shit up brother. I'm looking forward to hear about your gains.
 
runningignus;680468 said:
Good that you made up your mind.
Hit up the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] in the morning followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], then throw on a cock ring and just keep manual stretching throughout the day. Then hit it again at night if you can. That way your doing length the most but you'll still gain girth since it's easy for you to. Split with stretching and jelqing. Best of both worlds. That will be my routine in the coming months.
I'll be in your shoes soon as well. The PF will be gone and just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with stretches throughout the day. The constant on and off of the PF wears you down after so long. It tears and stretches so easily. Get yourself a good routine and tear shit up brother. I'm looking forward to hear about your gains.

Thanks so much for this post bro, I thought I was the only one who knows the flaws of the PF. It's crap. I will start this routine you suggested above. I will do jelqs and slow squash jelqs together. This is a solid routine. Two girth sessions daily will give me insane expansion/gains. Thanks so much for the suggestion. Let me do the bundled stretches before girth work as DLD keeps talking about. I will start doing this routine from Monday.
 
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