Hey guys, just logged into the forum for the first time in months and clicked new posts. Can't believe this thread was there hahaha! I'm 21 now and my erections are no better I'm afraid. I've kind of gotten use to it but it's pretty shitty and sex isn't as good. I haven't Penis Enlargement-ed in ages - might take it back up again and see if I can gain anything.
Erection problems from PE (I think)
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@ MrNilsen ! Hats off to you my man ! Infact you are the very first person , that I know off who is willing to follow advice and actually try something -as in: do the work , then do the talk !!!! My respect for that. I wish you all the best.
@Provider ! Just out of interest ! Am I correctly assuming that u haven't tried all the available remedys as suggested to you, and basically just gave it up and gave a fuck about it... ???
Be honest about it. (..mostly to yourself
)
@Everyone else:
Guys, reading this " Boo Boo's and Band-Aids" Forum is really making me said sometimes. Such a huge lack of information, always the same questions, always lack of patience and lack of motivation to try things to the end.
Just some facts and some Food for thought ( to get your heads right):
-ED is NOT a myth !
-Every form of ED is curable nowadays !
- The only question u ever need to ask yourself when it comes to yourself , your Dick and any ED is A) Can I have SEX with it.
If the answer is YES ! You are perfectly healthy...
-Ed is not a myth but it is indeed a long and stressfull way to diagnose and pinpoint the EXACT reason for your lack of erection strength:
Why ? Because SO MANY things can be responsible for ED. I call it variables.
Variables divert your attention from the REAL reason behind your ED.
Thus Variables have to be excluded one by one first, in order to find the real reason ! Why ? Because each of them could be solely responsible for your ED.
There are many variables: (I just give you a couple, random list straight out of my mind. not step by step guide!)
- Food. Eating habits.
- Water intake.
- Sleep. RhytHydromax and duration.
- Psychology. Menthal setup.
- Biochemistry balance inside your brain. Serotonin/ Dopamin
- Hormonal Balance inside your body. Testosterone. DHT. Oestrogen. Lactin.
- Stress
- Genetic setup. Anatomy of your penis.
- Nerves. Nerve damage.
- Vein Damage. Small Vein leakage. Dorsal vein leakage. Vein Blockage. Damaged vein valves.
- Ateries. Artery damage. Artery blockage. Plaques.
Wrong Cross Junctions between arteries and veins.
- Bloodflow. blood inflow out flow ratio.
- Heart. Heart problems.
- Diabetis
- Liver problems.
- Peyronies. penile bending.
- erectile tissue damage. erectile tissue fibrosis.
- Penis Enlargement. Overtraining.
- Bodybuilding. Overtraining. Even regular training.
- Damage in the tunica albuginea. Inability of the tunica albuginea to expand and thus clamp of the veins so erection can occur.
- Masturbation. Frequency. Overmasturbation. Lack of it. use it or loose it
Lack of stimulus. Too much adult entertainment.
- Propecia/Finasteride. Surpressing of hormones.
- Drug abuse. Alkohole. Weed. Extasy. Speed.
Ok I realize I'm beginning to repeat myself because many of these are interdependent and lead to each other.
But your are getting an idea of it don't u ?
The list goes on and on. And if you want a 100% functioning dick you better make sure u can exclude ALL of these.
Besides u CAN be, in like half of these groups and still Have a functioning dick
as long as you can Answer the most importent question ( A) !!!!! ) With yes.
Can I have sex with this dick ? Yes ? = I'm Fine.
No ? Exclude variables ! How ?
Again there are so so many different ways to exclude those variables..
wich start at observing your own health related habits...going to urologists,
having your hormones tested, menthal therapy..and continue into more risky, invasive stuff such as cavernosographie ( to display the venous/arterial system of ur ED- dick via x-ray thus finding/excluding possible vein leakage or arterie blockages.)
The cures are also a big list. Starting from eating, sleeping , drinking, thinking, sporting right, to natural supplements, such as tribulus, arginine, maca, red ginseng, and zillions others, to chemicals such as caverjet injection or my favourites viagra, cialis, vardenafil wich INFACT work wonders for men even with severe ED. Reversing fibrosis by daily viagra intake (50 mg), permanently increasing blood in flow by daily 50 mg viagra/cialis intake, And again then come the risky invasive cures, such Penis Enlargement ( yes it can fuck u up but it can heal u too - you will realize what its doing when its too late, thats the sad truth) then vein ligation. dorsal vein ligation. vein sclerosing. arterie sclerosing. revascularization (= redirecting arteries or hooking penile arteris to bigger main arteries inside the body for stronger blood inflow), penile straightening for bends or peyronies, patching of holes inside the tunica, and last but not least penile implants, but even there u have many options starting with simple
mechaincal implants and the most expensive penile implants with hydraulic pumps that simulate natural erection by inflating deflating with water or air.
As you can see there is cure for EVERYTHING !!!
Its up to you really and YOUR priorities.
You have to make priorities.
Your highest should always be question A) Can I have sex with this dick ?
Because thats what a dick is made for. FUCKING! Reproduction..not showers, gyms, Penis Enlargement, your buddys or anything else. Its really only fucking.
Why priorities ? Because thinking logically, its better to have a 90%, 80%, working dick or even 60 % working dick wich you can always extra-boost to 110% with viagra rather then do any of the risky stuff (screening , surgery , Penis Enlargement !!! ) and end up with less than u had...
Whats the good news ? None of you people, alomost nobody here has severe ED to a point where he would need Penile implants. All u people can fuck on viagra, u have no loss of quality in your life. And the best news, most of your conditions are completely permanantly reversable by doing simple things, such as eating, sleeping, drinking , not obsessing, INFORMING !!!!!!!!!! yourselves, taking viagra, cialis sporadically or as a daily treatment and
most important : DON't worry be happy with what u (still) have !!!!!!! You always could have less , and the little bit more is NEVER worth the risk...
If you DO take the risk..good luck to you , but pls shut the fuck up whining later, because u yourself was a greedy bastard, who wasn't happy with what he had in the first place !!!
THE DICK IS FOR FUCKING !!!
Amen...
@Provider ! Just out of interest ! Am I correctly assuming that u haven't tried all the available remedys as suggested to you, and basically just gave it up and gave a fuck about it... ???
Be honest about it. (..mostly to yourself
)@Everyone else:
Guys, reading this " Boo Boo's and Band-Aids" Forum is really making me said sometimes. Such a huge lack of information, always the same questions, always lack of patience and lack of motivation to try things to the end.
Just some facts and some Food for thought ( to get your heads right):
-ED is NOT a myth !
-Every form of ED is curable nowadays !
- The only question u ever need to ask yourself when it comes to yourself , your Dick and any ED is A) Can I have SEX with it.
If the answer is YES ! You are perfectly healthy...
-Ed is not a myth but it is indeed a long and stressfull way to diagnose and pinpoint the EXACT reason for your lack of erection strength:
Why ? Because SO MANY things can be responsible for ED. I call it variables.
Variables divert your attention from the REAL reason behind your ED.
Thus Variables have to be excluded one by one first, in order to find the real reason ! Why ? Because each of them could be solely responsible for your ED.
There are many variables: (I just give you a couple, random list straight out of my mind. not step by step guide!)
- Food. Eating habits.
- Water intake.
- Sleep. RhytHydromax and duration.
- Psychology. Menthal setup.
- Biochemistry balance inside your brain. Serotonin/ Dopamin
- Hormonal Balance inside your body. Testosterone. DHT. Oestrogen. Lactin.
- Stress
- Genetic setup. Anatomy of your penis.
- Nerves. Nerve damage.
- Vein Damage. Small Vein leakage. Dorsal vein leakage. Vein Blockage. Damaged vein valves.
- Ateries. Artery damage. Artery blockage. Plaques.
Wrong Cross Junctions between arteries and veins.
- Bloodflow. blood inflow out flow ratio.
- Heart. Heart problems.
- Diabetis
- Liver problems.
- Peyronies. penile bending.
- erectile tissue damage. erectile tissue fibrosis.
- Penis Enlargement. Overtraining.
- Bodybuilding. Overtraining. Even regular training.
- Damage in the tunica albuginea. Inability of the tunica albuginea to expand and thus clamp of the veins so erection can occur.
- Masturbation. Frequency. Overmasturbation. Lack of it. use it or loose it
Lack of stimulus. Too much adult entertainment.
- Propecia/Finasteride. Surpressing of hormones.
- Drug abuse. Alkohole. Weed. Extasy. Speed.
Ok I realize I'm beginning to repeat myself because many of these are interdependent and lead to each other.
But your are getting an idea of it don't u ?
The list goes on and on. And if you want a 100% functioning dick you better make sure u can exclude ALL of these.
Besides u CAN be, in like half of these groups and still Have a functioning dick
as long as you can Answer the most importent question ( A) !!!!! ) With yes.
Can I have sex with this dick ? Yes ? = I'm Fine.
No ? Exclude variables ! How ?
Again there are so so many different ways to exclude those variables..
wich start at observing your own health related habits...going to urologists,
having your hormones tested, menthal therapy..and continue into more risky, invasive stuff such as cavernosographie ( to display the venous/arterial system of ur ED- dick via x-ray thus finding/excluding possible vein leakage or arterie blockages.)
The cures are also a big list. Starting from eating, sleeping , drinking, thinking, sporting right, to natural supplements, such as tribulus, arginine, maca, red ginseng, and zillions others, to chemicals such as caverjet injection or my favourites viagra, cialis, vardenafil wich INFACT work wonders for men even with severe ED. Reversing fibrosis by daily viagra intake (50 mg), permanently increasing blood in flow by daily 50 mg viagra/cialis intake, And again then come the risky invasive cures, such Penis Enlargement ( yes it can fuck u up but it can heal u too - you will realize what its doing when its too late, thats the sad truth) then vein ligation. dorsal vein ligation. vein sclerosing. arterie sclerosing. revascularization (= redirecting arteries or hooking penile arteris to bigger main arteries inside the body for stronger blood inflow), penile straightening for bends or peyronies, patching of holes inside the tunica, and last but not least penile implants, but even there u have many options starting with simple
mechaincal implants and the most expensive penile implants with hydraulic pumps that simulate natural erection by inflating deflating with water or air.
As you can see there is cure for EVERYTHING !!!
Its up to you really and YOUR priorities.
You have to make priorities.
Your highest should always be question A) Can I have sex with this dick ?
Because thats what a dick is made for. FUCKING! Reproduction..not showers, gyms, Penis Enlargement, your buddys or anything else. Its really only fucking.
Why priorities ? Because thinking logically, its better to have a 90%, 80%, working dick or even 60 % working dick wich you can always extra-boost to 110% with viagra rather then do any of the risky stuff (screening , surgery , Penis Enlargement !!! ) and end up with less than u had...
Whats the good news ? None of you people, alomost nobody here has severe ED to a point where he would need Penile implants. All u people can fuck on viagra, u have no loss of quality in your life. And the best news, most of your conditions are completely permanantly reversable by doing simple things, such as eating, sleeping, drinking , not obsessing, INFORMING !!!!!!!!!! yourselves, taking viagra, cialis sporadically or as a daily treatment and
most important : DON't worry be happy with what u (still) have !!!!!!! You always could have less , and the little bit more is NEVER worth the risk...
If you DO take the risk..good luck to you , but pls shut the fuck up whining later, because u yourself was a greedy bastard, who wasn't happy with what he had in the first place !!!
THE DICK IS FOR FUCKING !!!
Amen...
tbidry: ye I did give up trying to fix it. Last time I was at the urologist he said all they had done all the test they could do and they came back fine and he said I should just wait a couple of years and maybe it will go back to normal - which it hasn't.
I can still get erection and fuck it's just not a great quality erection and sex isn't as good. It's just missing that extra edge that it use to have when it would get fully rock and feel great. Even on cialis it doesn't get fully rock like it use to.
I've tried going to the doctors etc and tried doing light Penis Enlargement, hot/cold wrap treatment to try and make it better. Tried just leaving my dick completely alone. But none of those things have worked. I can't afford to be taking viagra everyday to see if it will make my cock better.
I think I will just take some light Penis Enlargement up and stay away from girth work to see if I can gain anything and maybe improve erections.
I can still get erection and fuck it's just not a great quality erection and sex isn't as good. It's just missing that extra edge that it use to have when it would get fully rock and feel great. Even on cialis it doesn't get fully rock like it use to.
I've tried going to the doctors etc and tried doing light Penis Enlargement, hot/cold wrap treatment to try and make it better. Tried just leaving my dick completely alone. But none of those things have worked. I can't afford to be taking viagra everyday to see if it will make my cock better.
I think I will just take some light Penis Enlargement up and stay away from girth work to see if I can gain anything and maybe improve erections.
@ Provider
I feel for you man. But pls tell me why don't u try and put yourself
on a daily 50 mg before sleep generic viagra routine...for atleast 3 month
and see what this will do for u. I mean it less than 50 buxx investment and
u will get permanent blood inflow improovement.
Or try 15 mg cialis every 4 days...it will soon build up in your system and you will have problems fighting of boners wich last for many hours, rather than having to worry about getting erect.
And the most important thing is just take the V or cialis but don't think or care about ur dick anymore...all of ur problems could very well be solely menthal...
if u do as I suggest u will trick ur mind...ur erections WILL definetly improove very quick if on a daily supplement..and u will not worry anymore...
And again, urologists ARE BAD ADVISORS WHEN IT COMES TO ED. They don't know shit. They are good at everything covering the urinary tract. Their knowledge is based on 20 years ago studying and only in the last couple of years, many new treatmeant for ED were discovered, be it through medicine or surgery... these guys don't even know the correct anatomy of the penis...how the hell are they supposed to help you. They can't even diagnose a venous leak (don't have the machines nor x-rays) how the hell can the honestly say u don't have one ? Say dynamic cavernosometrie and they will look at u like u were speaking chinese....
I feel for you man. But pls tell me why don't u try and put yourself
on a daily 50 mg before sleep generic viagra routine...for atleast 3 month
and see what this will do for u. I mean it less than 50 buxx investment and
u will get permanent blood inflow improovement.
Or try 15 mg cialis every 4 days...it will soon build up in your system and you will have problems fighting of boners wich last for many hours, rather than having to worry about getting erect.
And the most important thing is just take the V or cialis but don't think or care about ur dick anymore...all of ur problems could very well be solely menthal...
if u do as I suggest u will trick ur mind...ur erections WILL definetly improove very quick if on a daily supplement..and u will not worry anymore...
And again, urologists ARE BAD ADVISORS WHEN IT COMES TO ED. They don't know shit. They are good at everything covering the urinary tract. Their knowledge is based on 20 years ago studying and only in the last couple of years, many new treatmeant for ED were discovered, be it through medicine or surgery... these guys don't even know the correct anatomy of the penis...how the hell are they supposed to help you. They can't even diagnose a venous leak (don't have the machines nor x-rays) how the hell can the honestly say u don't have one ? Say dynamic cavernosometrie and they will look at u like u were speaking chinese....
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@ MrNilsen ! Hats off to you my man ! Infact you are the very first person , that I know off who is willing to follow advice and actually try something -as in: do the work , then do the talk !!!! My respect for that. I wish you all the best.
Thank you for your support, but if there is anybody that should "take their hats off", it should be me for you.
Your post has been very informing regarding the studies you have pointed out, and the psychological issues that a man young man goes through after Penis Enlargement damage.
I acutally went to a psychologist this summer (no need for that anymore), and he told me about a patient that he had some time ago that was 100% impotent after an operation gone bad, and simply listen to what he went through made come to the conclusion that either way what happens with my ED I will never, ever get depressed for this shit. Depression can also be very bad your health and certainly your erection.
To shorten up things a little bit: the tens machine works nice, with a little mr. V in the system and the stay longer during my sessions. I can have sex with almost the erection once had with 100mg of viagra, and every now and then I wake up with morning wood.
I will post here after a while about my experience about this regimen, and to those that suffers the way I am, all I can say is: Keep your head up, and try it out.
I will certainly never, ever get depressed over this shit again.
That's my story for now.
@ MrNilsen ! Hats off to you my man ! Infact you are the very first person , that I know off who is willing to follow advice and actually try something -as in: do the work , then do the talk !!!! My respect for that. I wish you all the best.
Thank you for your support, but if there is anybody that should "take their hats off", it should be me for you.
Your post has been very informing regarding the studies you have pointed out, and the psychological issues that a man young man goes through after Penis Enlargement damage.
I acutally went to a psychologist this summer (no need for that anymore), and he told me about a patient that he had some time ago that was 100% impotent after an operation gone bad, and simply listen to what he went through made come to the conclusion that either way what happens with my ED I will never, ever get depressed for this shit. Depression can also be very bad your health and certainly your erection.
To shorten up things a little bit: the tens machine works nice, with a little mr. V in the system and the stay longer during my sessions. I can have sex with almost the erection once had with 100mg of viagra, and every now and then I wake up with morning wood.
I will post here after a while about my experience about this regimen, and to those that suffers the way I am, all I can say is: Keep your head up, and try it out.
I will certainly never, ever get depressed over this shit again.
That's my story for now.
Regular masturbation has been proven effective at getting good erections back, mainly on stimulating bloodflow and having the mental feel of getting some daily.
Apologies if this has already been said, but where should I get the Viagra from? Is there a good place online to order a lot for cheap? I'm curious about trying the 50mg every night idea as I sometimes have problems. Thanks in advance!
As far as I know there are a couple of generic viagra sites associated with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]
so ask DLD for guidance or search yourself in the health or sexuality sections of this forum.
Or just google through different forums where people reported back that they actually ordered some V from a certain site and recieved it and were satisfied.
I myself have a good trustworthy site myself so pm me too if you like...
I think its not allowed to paste any links as this could come off as advertisment..
so its up to you really...
@ Hyperlite
if you were directing your question to me ,
No I did not advise Provide to try the ROP, but to put himself on a daily V treatment as you can see in this thread...
I tried the ROP myself years ago , it kinda worked..but really I don't need anything zinging my balls maybe causing cancer or something alike in the pelvic region.... there are no studies on ROP--what will happen after 10 years... nah man fuck dat... let supra make his money with it, its none of my buisness...
so ask DLD for guidance or search yourself in the health or sexuality sections of this forum.
Or just google through different forums where people reported back that they actually ordered some V from a certain site and recieved it and were satisfied.
I myself have a good trustworthy site myself so pm me too if you like...
I think its not allowed to paste any links as this could come off as advertisment..
so its up to you really...
@ Hyperlite
if you were directing your question to me ,
No I did not advise Provide to try the ROP, but to put himself on a daily V treatment as you can see in this thread...
I tried the ROP myself years ago , it kinda worked..but really I don't need anything zinging my balls maybe causing cancer or something alike in the pelvic region.... there are no studies on ROP--what will happen after 10 years... nah man fuck dat... let supra make his money with it, its none of my buisness...
tbirdy-check your pm's, thanks
My Experience
Nilsen, how is your tens routine going?
I experienced symptoms of E.D, almost instantaneously since 6 months ago after an episode of prolonged masturbation, in which I forced ejaculation when I was having some trouble becoming erect. Although I HAVE NEVER DONE P.E., the mechanism was IDENTICAL to jelqing (milking action) and performed a peniso that would have been semi-hard to hard, which I now know is dangerous.
On that day, I noticed my penis seemed a little swollen, and seemed to be slightly firmer in a flaccid state, and this worried me immediately since I KNOW what my penis should be like flaccid. Since then
* I have lost all spontaneous erections, and morning erections
* My penis becomes tumescent, but not rigid - it is 70% erect at best, without stimulation and it is floppy at the base
* I can stimulate myself to a near full erection, but it will disappear rapidly without continual stimulation
* When I stand up, I will lose my erection and the rigidity disappears.
Physically, I have noticed that
* My penis feels firmer in a flaccid state – the tissue feels ‘tougher’, a lot more rubbery, more springy, and less soft than before
* My penis feels slightly colder, maybe 5 degrees.
* It does not retract into the foreskin as much as it used to. It is actually slightly bigger (and harder) in its flaccid state. and I think the increased weight and size means that the head doesn't go back in.
I have had a few tests, but none have shown anything abnormal
* Doppler US with caverject came back normal
* Ultra sound without caverject came back normal
* NPT showed one good erection in the course of three sleeps
* My response to pde-5s is o.k., and although it makes it easier to get hard, it is also quite easy to go soft.
i agree that these Penis Enlargement exercises CAN be dangerous, espeically wehn not performed properly. My whole life has changed in a day, and my symtpoms have persisted for the last 7 months.
I bleieve it could soft tissue damage. it might be something intermediate between healthy tissue and fibrosis or mild scar tissue. If anyone's got a recommendation, I'd like to hear it.
Nilsen, how is your tens routine going?
I experienced symptoms of E.D, almost instantaneously since 6 months ago after an episode of prolonged masturbation, in which I forced ejaculation when I was having some trouble becoming erect. Although I HAVE NEVER DONE P.E., the mechanism was IDENTICAL to jelqing (milking action) and performed a peniso that would have been semi-hard to hard, which I now know is dangerous.
On that day, I noticed my penis seemed a little swollen, and seemed to be slightly firmer in a flaccid state, and this worried me immediately since I KNOW what my penis should be like flaccid. Since then
* I have lost all spontaneous erections, and morning erections
* My penis becomes tumescent, but not rigid - it is 70% erect at best, without stimulation and it is floppy at the base
* I can stimulate myself to a near full erection, but it will disappear rapidly without continual stimulation
* When I stand up, I will lose my erection and the rigidity disappears.
Physically, I have noticed that
* My penis feels firmer in a flaccid state – the tissue feels ‘tougher’, a lot more rubbery, more springy, and less soft than before
* My penis feels slightly colder, maybe 5 degrees.
* It does not retract into the foreskin as much as it used to. It is actually slightly bigger (and harder) in its flaccid state. and I think the increased weight and size means that the head doesn't go back in.
I have had a few tests, but none have shown anything abnormal
* Doppler US with caverject came back normal
* Ultra sound without caverject came back normal
* NPT showed one good erection in the course of three sleeps
* My response to pde-5s is o.k., and although it makes it easier to get hard, it is also quite easy to go soft.
i agree that these Penis Enlargement exercises CAN be dangerous, espeically wehn not performed properly. My whole life has changed in a day, and my symtpoms have persisted for the last 7 months.
I bleieve it could soft tissue damage. it might be something intermediate between healthy tissue and fibrosis or mild scar tissue. If anyone's got a recommendation, I'd like to hear it.
I have similar issues. See my posts for my story if your interested. It sounds to me like it could be scar tissue. If your experiencing hardened areas on your penis, this is most likely scar tissue. My specialist has given me Verapamil to rub on the hardened areas. This cream is supposed to soften up the scar tissue and allow for more expansion when erect. He has also put me on a new once a day cialus.
Hi Hyperlite,
you mentioned you got better. It's been 7 months and I haven't, so just wandering how it just snapped back for you?
Cheers,
Richard
you mentioned you got better. It's been 7 months and I haven't, so just wandering how it just snapped back for you?
Cheers,
Richard
Its been a long story,
I first noticed my injury about a year ago, I woke up one morning and my penis was dead. My penis remained "dead" for about 5 days and then one day it just turned around and came back within minutes. I figured it was some kind of blockage or something so I took about 2 weeks off and then got started again. I did 2 days of light jelqing and woke up again with the "dead" penis. Since then I have been dealing with ED and my flacid penis has changed alot. I think time and rest is the only thing that has helped me so far. I will see how this cream and cialus goes.
I first noticed my injury about a year ago, I woke up one morning and my penis was dead. My penis remained "dead" for about 5 days and then one day it just turned around and came back within minutes. I figured it was some kind of blockage or something so I took about 2 weeks off and then got started again. I did 2 days of light jelqing and woke up again with the "dead" penis. Since then I have been dealing with ED and my flacid penis has changed alot. I think time and rest is the only thing that has helped me so far. I will see how this cream and cialus goes.
Hi Hyperlite,
Thanks for sharing that. I am in touch with some people who have similar conditions and we believe a collective effort might help us get taken seriously by the otherwise skeptical and dismissive urological community. I've got survey results on six people who have pretty much given me their clinical history. I think if we can get 10 or so, a research doctor might take us a bit more seriously.
Whilst I never engaged in P.E., I completely understand how it has caused many people to be injured. For myself, I never did P.E. exercises, but when I injured myself, the mechanism would have been akin to jelqing and a semi-erect to fully erect penis. I therefore issue my case as a warning.
Do you get the firm-flaccidness. It's a very strange phenomenon and my only explanation is that there is some sort of soft tissue damage, or scar tissue has replaced normal tissue.
Anyways, i'd like to hear a bit more of your story, and I have read all your preivous posts as well. 1. I was wandering if you were still in touch with jtmorgan or orbital.
2. Also, is your tens thing still wokring
3. What do you think of tbirdy's advice of nightly viagra?
Regards,
Thanks for sharing that. I am in touch with some people who have similar conditions and we believe a collective effort might help us get taken seriously by the otherwise skeptical and dismissive urological community. I've got survey results on six people who have pretty much given me their clinical history. I think if we can get 10 or so, a research doctor might take us a bit more seriously.
Whilst I never engaged in P.E., I completely understand how it has caused many people to be injured. For myself, I never did P.E. exercises, but when I injured myself, the mechanism would have been akin to jelqing and a semi-erect to fully erect penis. I therefore issue my case as a warning.
Do you get the firm-flaccidness. It's a very strange phenomenon and my only explanation is that there is some sort of soft tissue damage, or scar tissue has replaced normal tissue.
Anyways, i'd like to hear a bit more of your story, and I have read all your preivous posts as well. 1. I was wandering if you were still in touch with jtmorgan or orbital.
2. Also, is your tens thing still wokring
3. What do you think of tbirdy's advice of nightly viagra?
Regards,
I have seen a few Urologists since my injury... With the exception of my current specialist, they have all been very short with me and less than understanding. I live in Canada so our health care system is different. It took me around 5 months to get in with my latest Dr. His name is Dr. Jay Lee. He is supposed to be one of the best ED doctors in the Country. I told him about my jelqing and everything that I experienced. He was really understanding and knew about the effects of jelqing. He said that scar tissue is one of the most common injury in Penis Enlargementing. When you stretch out or over work the tissue, the cologen can repair itself improperly. Anyways he said there were a few methods to reverse or soften up the scar tissue, one being the cream im using. The other method is a once a month injection straight into the scar tissue. He said this method hurts like hell, but people have seen results in just 3 treatments. This is my plan B right now.
Ive only been on the once a day cialus and the cream for a week. Dr. Lee said it takes about 5 days for the body to build up enough cialus for it to be completely effective. Remember, im on a smaller 5mg once a cialus. Dr. Lee said that once a day cialus wont reverse scar tissue, but it can help with permenant blood flow over time. This cream is a long term treatment, 6-12 months he said. I have noticed increased rigidity for erections and more spontanius + morning erections.
I will keep you posted as I learn more. Tbirdy has been very helpful, he has been through some of his own issues and has done alot of research. I never did get ahold of JTmorgan, I dont know where he stands with his problems.
I like your idea of getting a bunch of people together and talking to a specialist. I could deffinately help you out with that. Let me know the details.
Ive only been on the once a day cialus and the cream for a week. Dr. Lee said it takes about 5 days for the body to build up enough cialus for it to be completely effective. Remember, im on a smaller 5mg once a cialus. Dr. Lee said that once a day cialus wont reverse scar tissue, but it can help with permenant blood flow over time. This cream is a long term treatment, 6-12 months he said. I have noticed increased rigidity for erections and more spontanius + morning erections.
I will keep you posted as I learn more. Tbirdy has been very helpful, he has been through some of his own issues and has done alot of research. I never did get ahold of JTmorgan, I dont know where he stands with his problems.
I like your idea of getting a bunch of people together and talking to a specialist. I could deffinately help you out with that. Let me know the details.
It might help if you go to some sexclub.
Here in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany there are some pretty good gangbangs.
First read on the internet what is a good party and then join anonymously. Don't know however how it works in the country you live in.
The good thing is that many things are possible, nearly no limits, but of course it is safe sex. Then this could easily boost you.
It keeps you also from focussing on getting results (by the practices), sometimes it is better to step out of the routine an change things.
So those gangbangs are fun for some times and break the routine.
Here in the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany there are some pretty good gangbangs.
First read on the internet what is a good party and then join anonymously. Don't know however how it works in the country you live in.
The good thing is that many things are possible, nearly no limits, but of course it is safe sex. Then this could easily boost you.
It keeps you also from focussing on getting results (by the practices), sometimes it is better to step out of the routine an change things.
So those gangbangs are fun for some times and break the routine.
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hi all,
i got exactly the same symptoms as jtmorgan. flacid penis felling shrinked,going hand in hand with a very firm strange feeling, darker color than before etc...
since 1,5 years, still no improvement! since than, daily life became pretty fucked. i'm afraid of sex and getting in touch with girls since all this happened to me.
went through a bunch of urologist, no one could find anything!
i have the feeling that i also have a scar tissue on the back side of my penis.
went through all the tests, you can imagine. nothing!
i got a tens machine but did not get the clue what it is all about?
i use it against back pain. do you guys treat your penis with with it? advice please!
sorry, for my english, i'm from germany. i would also be very grateful about more detailed inormation about cialus. where to get it from how to use it?
and what are the side effects of it?
if you think, you could help me or have some questions.
post here or send me a pm.
i wish you all the best folks. we may never give up!
hope jtmorgan is ok...
YES Penis Enlargement IS DANGEROUS! and i just did light routines nothing compared to some others here.
i wish i never tried it. now i have to deal with the outcome.
i got exactly the same symptoms as jtmorgan. flacid penis felling shrinked,going hand in hand with a very firm strange feeling, darker color than before etc...
since 1,5 years, still no improvement! since than, daily life became pretty fucked. i'm afraid of sex and getting in touch with girls since all this happened to me.
went through a bunch of urologist, no one could find anything!
i have the feeling that i also have a scar tissue on the back side of my penis.
went through all the tests, you can imagine. nothing!
i got a tens machine but did not get the clue what it is all about?
i use it against back pain. do you guys treat your penis with with it? advice please!
sorry, for my english, i'm from germany. i would also be very grateful about more detailed inormation about cialus. where to get it from how to use it?
and what are the side effects of it?
if you think, you could help me or have some questions.
post here or send me a pm.
i wish you all the best folks. we may never give up!
hope jtmorgan is ok...
YES Penis Enlargement IS DANGEROUS! and i just did light routines nothing compared to some others here.
i wish i never tried it. now i have to deal with the outcome.
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I think it's a side effect from p.e . As an example yesterday I did a lot of girth work,and today I woke up with like a 90% erection.
A lil while after a i woke up and wanted to measure,I got hard but it wasn't the normal hard on. Id peak at 100% then it quickly go down.
It's from fatigue. In a day or two my erections will be back 100% from my expereinces.
A lil while after a i woke up and wanted to measure,I got hard but it wasn't the normal hard on. Id peak at 100% then it quickly go down.
It's from fatigue. In a day or two my erections will be back 100% from my expereinces.
Hi ixi and others,
Don't keep saying it's just fatigue from P.E. when it has been 1.5 years. That is clearly an uninformed opinion and does not help.
Ixi, what tests have u had ? Doppler US? NPT?
What was your response to PGE-1 injections and pde-5s
Cheers,
Don't keep saying it's just fatigue from P.E. when it has been 1.5 years. That is clearly an uninformed opinion and does not help.
Ixi, what tests have u had ? Doppler US? NPT?
What was your response to PGE-1 injections and pde-5s
Cheers,
pleasehelpme;298374 said:
sorry, mate. i not a pro when it comes to all those terms.
pge-1, pde-5? sorry, says nothing to me.
no offense! i got a "skat" injection once and ultrasonic researches often.
all of the urologists can't find no scar tissues or any indication about my problems. i also got a a burning pain around that point where i feel the scar on the downside of my penis, that pain is still there during erections what makes it extremly hard to keep it hard because of the pain.
any info about how to use the tens regarding to this and are there any risks? people who maybe already tried it?
cheers mate
Hi IXI,
Please pm me , or PLEASEHELPME, you email and join our mailing group. We have about 10 guys with the exact same problem, and we are all focused on finding the cure. I have had this condition for over a year, and it has only gotten worse. I'll let you know everything i have tried, but don't give up and keep fighting. Could you describe in detail what you did specifically that caused the injury? Streching, light jelqing, or masturbation?
Please pm me , or PLEASEHELPME, you email and join our mailing group. We have about 10 guys with the exact same problem, and we are all focused on finding the cure. I have had this condition for over a year, and it has only gotten worse. I'll let you know everything i have tried, but don't give up and keep fighting. Could you describe in detail what you did specifically that caused the injury? Streching, light jelqing, or masturbation?
Well
1.hope you guys find a cure.
2. I didn't read dude saying that he's had developed ed from p.e that lasted over a year as I just read his firt post....
1.hope you guys find a cure.
2. I didn't read dude saying that he's had developed ed from p.e that lasted over a year as I just read his firt post....
hey, guys...
I have tried the tens machine, it does work, but the pads are clumpsy and difficult to attatch.
What has worked for me is simply taking cialis every 3rd or 4 days, and also wearing a cock ring while having sex.
I still have some discomfort in the ligaments, and feels a little "de-attached" at the base. Erection angle is the same as before, but I can tell that the ligaments are weakend. I also probably have som venous leakage.
I have taken an ultrasound test with an erect penis before, the result came out normal.
That's pretty much my story for now...
It turned out OK, for me, but I can remember how it was before I started with cialis, not the best time in my life...
I have tried the tens machine, it does work, but the pads are clumpsy and difficult to attatch.
What has worked for me is simply taking cialis every 3rd or 4 days, and also wearing a cock ring while having sex.
I still have some discomfort in the ligaments, and feels a little "de-attached" at the base. Erection angle is the same as before, but I can tell that the ligaments are weakend. I also probably have som venous leakage.
I have taken an ultrasound test with an erect penis before, the result came out normal.
That's pretty much my story for now...
It turned out OK, for me, but I can remember how it was before I started with cialis, not the best time in my life...
thanks for all your kind responses. you are some great bunch of people.
everyone who has went through this or still is experiencing this physical and as time goes by more an more psychical pain is realy grateful for any advice.
i will write an pm to painisgrowth33! thanks for your offer!
@painisgrowth if you got any informations please share it for others that maybe need help.
i wanna mention that i stoped pe after it! no one can convince me to fix the problem with starting pe again. pe is history for me.
everyone who has went through this or still is experiencing this physical and as time goes by more an more psychical pain is realy grateful for any advice.
i will write an pm to painisgrowth33! thanks for your offer!
@painisgrowth if you got any informations please share it for others that maybe need help.
i wanna mention that i stoped pe after it! no one can convince me to fix the problem with starting pe again. pe is history for me.
MrNilsen;298397 said:
hi mr. nilsen,
how long did you wear the tens machine? doesn't it hurt? i'm afraid it would cause some damage. but it's an idea i had a long time ago, before i read about it here. what effect does it has?
could you send me a link of the kind of cialis you are using?
i will visit my doc and ask him about them.
they are not that cheap i think?
boy, i would give anything for my old pecker if i just knew what would bring
help.
thanks in advance!
I pretty much just tested it on a few occasions. It tingles for the most part, you can also use it to do kegels, which I am planning on doing soon.
I have been using expencive cialis lately and they work pretty good on me.
I have also bougth tadalafil (cialis) powder, to mix with alcohol and this will give you liquid cialis.
here's the site from where I bought it from:
http://www.elitenetpharmacy.com/pd-tadaiafil.cfm (el cheapo powder)
And here is how you mix it: http://www.freewebtown.com/webslave/recipe.html
I haven't tried the homemade liquid mix yet, but if works as good as the original, than I am in for some cheap fucking (pun intended)
I have been using expencive cialis lately and they work pretty good on me.
I have also bougth tadalafil (cialis) powder, to mix with alcohol and this will give you liquid cialis.
here's the site from where I bought it from:
http://www.elitenetpharmacy.com/pd-tadaiafil.cfm (el cheapo powder)
And here is how you mix it: http://www.freewebtown.com/webslave/recipe.html
I haven't tried the homemade liquid mix yet, but if works as good as the original, than I am in for some cheap fucking (pun intended)
ixi;298408 said:
Hi Mr Nilsen,
I was just wanting to clarify what you meant by after CIALIS, it turned o.k. for you. Do you mean that your erections have gone back to 100% normal and how they were before your injury or that CIALIS has helped you gain some function and that you are satisfied with it, even if it's not as good as before.
My experience with CIALIS is that it improves things, but it's still not the same as before. Although CIALIS makes it easier to get hard, it still goes soft without vigorous pumping. That is, the erection is not 100% stable.
Also, although the shaft becomes more rigid, it is still floppy at the base and upon standing up, the erection will collapse (under the weight of gravity) within 30seconds or so. Before, my erections used to be a flagpole and it'd hurt to try and move it down. Now its hard in the shaft but still floppy around the base. How does this compare with you?
Regards,
Rich
I was just wanting to clarify what you meant by after CIALIS, it turned o.k. for you. Do you mean that your erections have gone back to 100% normal and how they were before your injury or that CIALIS has helped you gain some function and that you are satisfied with it, even if it's not as good as before.
My experience with CIALIS is that it improves things, but it's still not the same as before. Although CIALIS makes it easier to get hard, it still goes soft without vigorous pumping. That is, the erection is not 100% stable.
Also, although the shaft becomes more rigid, it is still floppy at the base and upon standing up, the erection will collapse (under the weight of gravity) within 30seconds or so. Before, my erections used to be a flagpole and it'd hurt to try and move it down. Now its hard in the shaft but still floppy around the base. How does this compare with you?
Regards,
Rich
My erections are still not 100 %, but I use cialis to promote erections and sexual desire. The cock ring makes the real difference to me.
When it comes to you're injury it seems like we have somewhat of the same symptoms, although mine are not as severe as yours.
I'm 100% sure that in my case it's trauma to the penile suspensory ligament, and if you google: "penile trauma loose at the base", you'll find similar posts about this.
My ligaments are probably still present, but weak, and I hope they don't get any weaker.
I've also had rough sex once while being drunk and that made the ligament hurt again, so I'm still careful while having sex, but I do enjoy it, and so does the girls that I'm with, and that is why I think that it turned out OK for me..
When it comes to you're injury it seems like we have somewhat of the same symptoms, although mine are not as severe as yours.
I'm 100% sure that in my case it's trauma to the penile suspensory ligament, and if you google: "penile trauma loose at the base", you'll find similar posts about this.
My ligaments are probably still present, but weak, and I hope they don't get any weaker.
I've also had rough sex once while being drunk and that made the ligament hurt again, so I'm still careful while having sex, but I do enjoy it, and so does the girls that I'm with, and that is why I think that it turned out OK for me..
Hi Mr Nilsen,
Thanks for that information, and responding to my questions. I guess you might have been at my point (asking people as much as you can) at some stage -I have tracked your history.
1. What did you take (l-arginine? Vitamen E?) and what has worked for you in getting you to this point of recovery now? How long did it take?
2.Can I ask you - do you feel your injury is just to your suspensory ligament or to the erectile bodies? At the moment, you have said its to do with suspensory ligament, but in the past, you've actually said 'the cavernosa doesn't fill up like it used to'
I'm not sure whether our conditions are related to suspensory ligament or soft tissue damage.
3. If its just suspensory ligament, theoretically, it would fill and stay hard, although it would be kind of floppy still, but the blood flow to the chamber is adequate.
4. if it is too the erectile body, it would fill, but because it doesn't fill 100% or there is some sort of venous outflow, it would still be slightly floppy AND it would detumesce easier.
Can you please tell me what you think it is
Thanks agian,
Richard
Thanks for that information, and responding to my questions. I guess you might have been at my point (asking people as much as you can) at some stage -I have tracked your history.
1. What did you take (l-arginine? Vitamen E?) and what has worked for you in getting you to this point of recovery now? How long did it take?
2.Can I ask you - do you feel your injury is just to your suspensory ligament or to the erectile bodies? At the moment, you have said its to do with suspensory ligament, but in the past, you've actually said 'the cavernosa doesn't fill up like it used to'
I'm not sure whether our conditions are related to suspensory ligament or soft tissue damage.
3. If its just suspensory ligament, theoretically, it would fill and stay hard, although it would be kind of floppy still, but the blood flow to the chamber is adequate.
4. if it is too the erectile body, it would fill, but because it doesn't fill 100% or there is some sort of venous outflow, it would still be slightly floppy AND it would detumesce easier.
Can you please tell me what you think it is
Thanks agian,
Richard
Again, I am in no way recovered from the injury, and I haven't used any of supplements mentioned above.
My theory are simply based on stories read on urologist forums and Penis Enlargement forums.
Whatever the reasons for my ED are it doesn't matter since I function on sporadic intake of 20mg cialis and a cock ring, and most importantly I don't worry about it anymore, and never, ever let myself get depressed over it.
When it comes to trauma to the suspensory ligament, please read this:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/62355.php
I have many of the same symptoms, but I still function with the aid mentioned above.
My theory are simply based on stories read on urologist forums and Penis Enlargement forums.
Whatever the reasons for my ED are it doesn't matter since I function on sporadic intake of 20mg cialis and a cock ring, and most importantly I don't worry about it anymore, and never, ever let myself get depressed over it.
When it comes to trauma to the suspensory ligament, please read this:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/62355.php
I have many of the same symptoms, but I still function with the aid mentioned above.
Hi Mr Nilsen,
Thank you for sharing that with me. I think I really might be in the same boat as you. I can still have sex - everyday, even twice a day with pills. It feels good, but it doesn't feel the same as before and this really brought down my world down before.
I really admire your attitude to the whole thing. I'm in contact with about 10 others by email and there's about 4 who are seriously considering suicide. Your repsonse and attitude refreshes me, and reminds me not to get too down over it.
In any case to let you know, we correspond and share our thoughts on this condition. I've compiled a clinical survey on these guys and their conditions, and a lot of them are in contact with top urologists (which unfortunately for me, all happen to be in the states). I have seen 7 - none of whom have helped. However, our group's collective experience has been very informative (and cost-effective) methods in finding out medical opinions.
Please PM if you'd like to join.
Cheers,
Thank you for sharing that with me. I think I really might be in the same boat as you. I can still have sex - everyday, even twice a day with pills. It feels good, but it doesn't feel the same as before and this really brought down my world down before.
I really admire your attitude to the whole thing. I'm in contact with about 10 others by email and there's about 4 who are seriously considering suicide. Your repsonse and attitude refreshes me, and reminds me not to get too down over it.
In any case to let you know, we correspond and share our thoughts on this condition. I've compiled a clinical survey on these guys and their conditions, and a lot of them are in contact with top urologists (which unfortunately for me, all happen to be in the states). I have seen 7 - none of whom have helped. However, our group's collective experience has been very informative (and cost-effective) methods in finding out medical opinions.
Please PM if you'd like to join.
Cheers,
Well, thanx for the thumbs up, but I can assure you that it wasn't like this right after accident. Even though I have never considered suicide, my mind went "LOCO", I just couldn't face the facts that I have self induced ED.
I know I have written in earlier post about taking viagra every night and using the tens machine, but I never got to do it seriously, simply because I was too depressed. And if you think about it, if you are depressed, how the hell are you supposed to get erections and get the benefits of viagra/ cialis etc.
Also if you read about T-birdys posts (this guy is class act), you will see that the main reason for his success is simply that he didn't it let his ED drag down forever. And now he enjoys sex with a full, big hard on, just by taking 50 mg viagra before getting his groove on.
And if you read about how his dick was before he started taking viagra chronicly, you'll see it was even more messed up than my injury. So, hopefully will get better over time.
My point here is, that maybe we should also focus on getting over depression and then getting our dicks and sex life back.
I know I have written in earlier post about taking viagra every night and using the tens machine, but I never got to do it seriously, simply because I was too depressed. And if you think about it, if you are depressed, how the hell are you supposed to get erections and get the benefits of viagra/ cialis etc.
Also if you read about T-birdys posts (this guy is class act), you will see that the main reason for his success is simply that he didn't it let his ED drag down forever. And now he enjoys sex with a full, big hard on, just by taking 50 mg viagra before getting his groove on.
And if you read about how his dick was before he started taking viagra chronicly, you'll see it was even more messed up than my injury. So, hopefully will get better over time.
My point here is, that maybe we should also focus on getting over depression and then getting our dicks and sex life back.
Hi guys,
I'd like to make a few points about the conditions that I think we might be suffering.
Scar Tissue, Nerve Damage, or Suspensory Ligament
1.Our condition (far from being detectable) seems to be scar tissue, either in the erectile bodies, or of the tunica caused by vague trauma (Penis Enlargement exercises, excessive masturbating, sex injury). Some people have then postulated nerve damage, because the sensation is less. I think the sensation is less perhaps because the erection is not stable, rather than nerve damage. Some of you have also pointed to a sensation of coldness. I think it could actually be colder, rather than just feeling colder.
Someone told me that it is simply damage to the suspensory ligament and gave me the following. Whilst damage to such a ligament would cause E.D., it wouldn't account for some of the other things we are experiencing, such as firm flaccidness, temperature change. Also, for some of us, the pumping mechanism of injury does not square with such damage. This is more probably relevant who damaged their penis by a penis fracture or sex injury - some sort of bending of the erection.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/62355.php
If scar tissue is the cause, we may have something in common with people with Peyronie's, except whereas their scar tissue is focalised and a plaque, our fibrosis is diffuse and throughout the cavernosa. Please read the following
http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,580.msg10635.html#msg10635
for an excellent discussion of the such similarities.
There has been a fair amount of research done on the matter, and whilst it is informative, it lacks depth. Here is a link that documents basically the entire research done in the field of scar tissue in the penis: http://lib.bioinfo.pl/meid:72935 . It will save you a lot of time if you want to know what's been researched. These are no doubt, the greatest minds in the planet on the topic of E.D.
If such scar tissues is present, then our smooth tissue is prevented from contracting properly (hence it appears firmer than usual in flaccid state) and ALSO from relaxing properly which prevents proper erectile function. I still don't know why this sort of thing can't be detected. Or maybe it can...
Biopsy - Is this THE diagnostic tool?
A lot of us have gone through a lot of tests - Doppler US, Caverject, NPT, and the very painful cavernosagram (I do not recommend this based on some of the other members' experience). None of these are apt to show whether E.D. is present and in fact have a problem. IN fact, they do more harm than good, because it reinforces to the doctor that we don't have a problem. This is not the correct conclusion. If we fail one of these tests, then we definately do have a problem. But just becasue we pass them does not mean we are 100% normal. A lot of doctors I have seen use positive results on the test to say that it is psychological.
Michele, have you tried this yet?
IN contrast, I think we need more powerful diagnostic equipment and that we have such equipment at hand - the biopsy. It can determine the structure of the penis (e.g. % of smooth muscle etc) and to compare it to a normal person. This will tell us exactly about the scar tissue etc I was referring to becasue it is evidenced as collagen or fibrin. Here is a link that explains the usefulness of the biopsy test http://www.current-reports.com/article.cfm?PubID=SH01-2-1-01&Type=Article&KeyWords=
My question is has anyone ever tried this, or even know if they can try it. I don't think we have this in Australia. other members believe it to be unsafe and to actually cause further fibrosis, but I don't think it would cause more than injectables.... I think if we took this test, it could give us the right diagnostics. Opinions, anyone?
Gene Therapy. Tissue Engineering and other cures?
Lastly, I still believe Science is on our side. They are constantly developing new methods of stimualting erection. Here are some of the options currently available, and others on the horizon
1. Injectables - inject hormones that stimulate erection. I personally responded well to PGE-1 two weeks after injury, but not sure if I would at this point in time. Alpostridil TD cream is the same thing, but hte mechanism of absorption is via a cream rather than a needle, as is MUSE.
2. PDE-5s/Pills/Viagra - inhibit PDE-5 which allows for greater creation of NO
3. Gene Therapy ( 5 years away from commercial viability) - inserts a gene which tells the smooth tissue to allow more Potassium Ion Channels to open. The overexpression of these ions stimulate erections. This is a major advance and I personally believe this will work with Cialis.
4. Tissue Engineering (Attala has shown a working prototype at least for Rabbits) but is decades off.... unless of course, someone will fund it. Here, I believe the technology is pretty much there, but it is not economical to begin research because even if they could create new penises (they can actually clone people ffs, why is this so difficult?), they won't because the few people who need this sort of procedure (us) could not afford the 100,000 it would cost, and I doubt our insurances would cover it.
For all of those of you who are having somewhat darker thoughts, I believe you should be at least patient because gene therapy is fairly novel.
I invite discussion on anything I just said.
Regards,
I'd like to make a few points about the conditions that I think we might be suffering.
Scar Tissue, Nerve Damage, or Suspensory Ligament
1.Our condition (far from being detectable) seems to be scar tissue, either in the erectile bodies, or of the tunica caused by vague trauma (Penis Enlargement exercises, excessive masturbating, sex injury). Some people have then postulated nerve damage, because the sensation is less. I think the sensation is less perhaps because the erection is not stable, rather than nerve damage. Some of you have also pointed to a sensation of coldness. I think it could actually be colder, rather than just feeling colder.
Someone told me that it is simply damage to the suspensory ligament and gave me the following. Whilst damage to such a ligament would cause E.D., it wouldn't account for some of the other things we are experiencing, such as firm flaccidness, temperature change. Also, for some of us, the pumping mechanism of injury does not square with such damage. This is more probably relevant who damaged their penis by a penis fracture or sex injury - some sort of bending of the erection.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/62355.php
If scar tissue is the cause, we may have something in common with people with Peyronie's, except whereas their scar tissue is focalised and a plaque, our fibrosis is diffuse and throughout the cavernosa. Please read the following
http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,580.msg10635.html#msg10635
for an excellent discussion of the such similarities.
There has been a fair amount of research done on the matter, and whilst it is informative, it lacks depth. Here is a link that documents basically the entire research done in the field of scar tissue in the penis: http://lib.bioinfo.pl/meid:72935 . It will save you a lot of time if you want to know what's been researched. These are no doubt, the greatest minds in the planet on the topic of E.D.
If such scar tissues is present, then our smooth tissue is prevented from contracting properly (hence it appears firmer than usual in flaccid state) and ALSO from relaxing properly which prevents proper erectile function. I still don't know why this sort of thing can't be detected. Or maybe it can...
Biopsy - Is this THE diagnostic tool?
A lot of us have gone through a lot of tests - Doppler US, Caverject, NPT, and the very painful cavernosagram (I do not recommend this based on some of the other members' experience). None of these are apt to show whether E.D. is present and in fact have a problem. IN fact, they do more harm than good, because it reinforces to the doctor that we don't have a problem. This is not the correct conclusion. If we fail one of these tests, then we definately do have a problem. But just becasue we pass them does not mean we are 100% normal. A lot of doctors I have seen use positive results on the test to say that it is psychological.
Michele, have you tried this yet?
IN contrast, I think we need more powerful diagnostic equipment and that we have such equipment at hand - the biopsy. It can determine the structure of the penis (e.g. % of smooth muscle etc) and to compare it to a normal person. This will tell us exactly about the scar tissue etc I was referring to becasue it is evidenced as collagen or fibrin. Here is a link that explains the usefulness of the biopsy test http://www.current-reports.com/article.cfm?PubID=SH01-2-1-01&Type=Article&KeyWords=
My question is has anyone ever tried this, or even know if they can try it. I don't think we have this in Australia. other members believe it to be unsafe and to actually cause further fibrosis, but I don't think it would cause more than injectables.... I think if we took this test, it could give us the right diagnostics. Opinions, anyone?
Gene Therapy. Tissue Engineering and other cures?
Lastly, I still believe Science is on our side. They are constantly developing new methods of stimualting erection. Here are some of the options currently available, and others on the horizon
1. Injectables - inject hormones that stimulate erection. I personally responded well to PGE-1 two weeks after injury, but not sure if I would at this point in time. Alpostridil TD cream is the same thing, but hte mechanism of absorption is via a cream rather than a needle, as is MUSE.
2. PDE-5s/Pills/Viagra - inhibit PDE-5 which allows for greater creation of NO
3. Gene Therapy ( 5 years away from commercial viability) - inserts a gene which tells the smooth tissue to allow more Potassium Ion Channels to open. The overexpression of these ions stimulate erections. This is a major advance and I personally believe this will work with Cialis.
4. Tissue Engineering (Attala has shown a working prototype at least for Rabbits) but is decades off.... unless of course, someone will fund it. Here, I believe the technology is pretty much there, but it is not economical to begin research because even if they could create new penises (they can actually clone people ffs, why is this so difficult?), they won't because the few people who need this sort of procedure (us) could not afford the 100,000 it would cost, and I doubt our insurances would cover it.
For all of those of you who are having somewhat darker thoughts, I believe you should be at least patient because gene therapy is fairly novel.
I invite discussion on anything I just said.
Regards,
OH MY GOD. I hate to see that others have to know the pain of this, but I'm glad I'm not alone. A GOOGLE search just led me to this page and I had to instantly join. Heres my (quick version) story:
I started doing Penis Enlargement when I was 16 and by 17 or 18 had all the damage you guys mention here UNDOUBTEDLY DIRECTLY LINKED to Penis Enlargement(jelqing, stretching): no morning/night/spontaneous erections(lots of manual stimulation needed to get to even a fraction of what I used to and should be), colder overall, firmer when flaccid, discoloration, etc, EVERYTHING that JTMorgan10 mentions.
More importantly, I know the pain and depression one feels about this, and had become suicidal for a while. I didn't commit suicide, obviously, and met with a urologist, Dr. Jeffrey Upton, M.D. in Carson City,NV who quite honestly, wasn't terribly helpful in that he obviously had no idea what was wrong, did not take me to have a serious problem, and prescribed me with sample packs of VIAGRA LEVITRA, and CIALIS, telling me he'd give me a prescription for whichever one I liked bestust taking them every time I hasd sex would cure the problem. I believed him. I chose Cialis for its long-lasting effects, but quite honestly, it didn't help much. I met a girlfriend, and with the aid of the Cialis and the trust of our close relationship, I could have sex with her, however it continued to not be what it should, and although she was relatively inexperienced I'm sure she could tell. This made me feel pathetic and lame; TRUST ME GUYS, I KNOW this feeling all too well. Long story short, after about a year we broke up(this was several months ago) and the girls I've been with since, I've embarrassed myself with.
Guys, please let me know of anything you haven't mentioned in the forum that may help, I'll be going into the doctor soon to get another Cialis prescription, and I'll try the once-a-day thing and hope it works.
PM ME TOO, as I'd like to keep in touch with you guys. You're right, also, if we get enough people together, we should be able to get medical science to look at this problem much more seriously.
Guys, as corny as it sounds, I dream of a day when we all get up in the morning to full hardons, fuck our wives/girlfriends with all the youth and vitality of non-injured men, and we only trade e-mails to talk about how great our lives are now that we have our problem fixed, and can focus on other areas of self-improvement.
Until then, lets keep trying to figure this one out. Thank you in advance for your support/advice. I hope we can get this taken care of
I started doing Penis Enlargement when I was 16 and by 17 or 18 had all the damage you guys mention here UNDOUBTEDLY DIRECTLY LINKED to Penis Enlargement(jelqing, stretching): no morning/night/spontaneous erections(lots of manual stimulation needed to get to even a fraction of what I used to and should be), colder overall, firmer when flaccid, discoloration, etc, EVERYTHING that JTMorgan10 mentions.
More importantly, I know the pain and depression one feels about this, and had become suicidal for a while. I didn't commit suicide, obviously, and met with a urologist, Dr. Jeffrey Upton, M.D. in Carson City,NV who quite honestly, wasn't terribly helpful in that he obviously had no idea what was wrong, did not take me to have a serious problem, and prescribed me with sample packs of VIAGRA LEVITRA, and CIALIS, telling me he'd give me a prescription for whichever one I liked bestust taking them every time I hasd sex would cure the problem. I believed him. I chose Cialis for its long-lasting effects, but quite honestly, it didn't help much. I met a girlfriend, and with the aid of the Cialis and the trust of our close relationship, I could have sex with her, however it continued to not be what it should, and although she was relatively inexperienced I'm sure she could tell. This made me feel pathetic and lame; TRUST ME GUYS, I KNOW this feeling all too well. Long story short, after about a year we broke up(this was several months ago) and the girls I've been with since, I've embarrassed myself with.
Guys, please let me know of anything you haven't mentioned in the forum that may help, I'll be going into the doctor soon to get another Cialis prescription, and I'll try the once-a-day thing and hope it works.
PM ME TOO, as I'd like to keep in touch with you guys. You're right, also, if we get enough people together, we should be able to get medical science to look at this problem much more seriously.
Guys, as corny as it sounds, I dream of a day when we all get up in the morning to full hardons, fuck our wives/girlfriends with all the youth and vitality of non-injured men, and we only trade e-mails to talk about how great our lives are now that we have our problem fixed, and can focus on other areas of self-improvement.
Until then, lets keep trying to figure this one out. Thank you in advance for your support/advice. I hope we can get this taken care of
Hey Mate,
Could you email me at [email protected] as there are a few of us on my mailing list who have this problem. There are survey results from about 10 of us and they are wiling to share so long as you also fill out such results.
There are some interesting things going on with gene therapy and tissue engineering, but they are some years off.
Regards,
Could you email me at [email protected] as there are a few of us on my mailing list who have this problem. There are survey results from about 10 of us and they are wiling to share so long as you also fill out such results.
There are some interesting things going on with gene therapy and tissue engineering, but they are some years off.
Regards,
well I'm pretty new to the whole Penis Enlargement game, but tbh after reading a few threads in here i've been totally put off continuing the exercises, my girlfriends never complained about my size i just wanted to increase my penis for myself, but there seems to be a large amount of injuries noted in here which have scared me off
hey guys
I made the "Serious problem! I'm really worried" thread which basically says we both have the same problem (loss of sensation, erectile dysfunction, harder to stay erect, penis hanging unusually/differently, etc.)
I recovered from the injury pretty well. I can get 100% erections now (I even "tent" when I get morning wood) and feel around 70-80% what used to feel (from feeling like I was perpetually wearing a condom, hardly felt any pleasure, it was horrifying). I'm hoping to get back to 100% feeling since the injury was only a month ago
Anyway, I think I recovered this greatly because I got really good advice from a guy named kingpole at The Penis Enlargement Gym Forums. You need to:
1. STOP ALL Penis Enlargementing
2. Give your penis a rice sock/warm compress for 30 minutes a day (I ran mine in hot shower water though). It should be warm enough that your unit radiates heat a few minutes after.
3. Take "Ginkgo Biloba" 120-240mg pills until everything is back to normal. It helps improve circulation.
4. Take Fish Oil pills
I am DEFINITE that these really helped with the ED and loss of sensation. You guys should try it too. I hope it helps you as much as it helped me.
I made the "Serious problem! I'm really worried" thread which basically says we both have the same problem (loss of sensation, erectile dysfunction, harder to stay erect, penis hanging unusually/differently, etc.)
I recovered from the injury pretty well. I can get 100% erections now (I even "tent" when I get morning wood) and feel around 70-80% what used to feel (from feeling like I was perpetually wearing a condom, hardly felt any pleasure, it was horrifying). I'm hoping to get back to 100% feeling since the injury was only a month ago
Anyway, I think I recovered this greatly because I got really good advice from a guy named kingpole at The Penis Enlargement Gym Forums. You need to:
1. STOP ALL Penis Enlargementing
2. Give your penis a rice sock/warm compress for 30 minutes a day (I ran mine in hot shower water though). It should be warm enough that your unit radiates heat a few minutes after.
3. Take "Ginkgo Biloba" 120-240mg pills until everything is back to normal. It helps improve circulation.
4. Take Fish Oil pills
I am DEFINITE that these really helped with the ED and loss of sensation. You guys should try it too. I hope it helps you as much as it helped me.
Shouldn't it be ginseng? Ginko is more for concentration and blood in your real head, isn't it?
But i think ginseng and arginin don't do wonders in this damage case. I'm interested what a urologist can/will say and do.
But i think ginseng and arginin don't do wonders in this damage case. I'm interested what a urologist can/will say and do.
nonewcomer2008;304782 said:
Fairly sure it improves blood circulation everywhere. Health stores just advertise the blood to the brain and the concentration thing more.
Ok, i read much about it and also much about tbirdy's ideas and they seem good!
I have already tried 6g Arginine and 750mg American Ginseng for 8 weaks, but no real results. I have had some mental stress also, i work mentally on myself already.
But need some help on my next suplement cure.
I will do it for 7 weaks (Cialis maybe for longer):
- i hope original 5mg Cialis 2 times a weak (shouldn't it be EVERY 36 hours???),
- 3.5g Arginin before bodytraining (fitness),
- 4.5g Creatin before bodytraining (fitness),
- Maybe 1g Arginin after,
- Maca (how much, 2g a day? and when? at morning at evening?),
- 50mg Zink a day (when?),
- 1g Ginseng Panax (at breakfast/morning or 2 times 500mg a day?),
- 180 or 240mg Ginkgo Bilob,
- Glucosamine Chondroitine MSM for joints repair,
- 150mg Magnesium (when?),
- Vitamin-E 270mg RRR-alpha-Tocopherol (at evening),
- 1g to 3g Omega3 (at evening),
- sure some Vitamin-C and maybe some low multivitamins
- and kegels every second day, some 100 fast and then 3x12 slow and holding a little,
- haven't found a supplier for tribulus at my place so i think i won't test tribulus right now, also the above is expensive already,
- cold shower.
Drinking much water, trying to sleep enough. I already eat healthy, train 4 times a weak (1 hour) and do run some times a weak for 15 minutes.
Does this supplement combination cause any health problems? I tried most of them individually already, BUT NOT AT SAME TIME, haven't had Maca and Panax Ginseng before only american ginseng 750mg.
Have tried one time 5mg Cialis and i had strong night erections, no joke! So i hope it won't build up in my system, i will not overdo 5mg because it works good enough for me in no-sex situations. And at that time i have had not Arginine, which should make bloodflow even stronger.
I'm scared about a not stopping erection.
Is it normal that sperm seems yellow on white background (on paper for example)?
I have already tried 6g Arginine and 750mg American Ginseng for 8 weaks, but no real results. I have had some mental stress also, i work mentally on myself already.
But need some help on my next suplement cure.
I will do it for 7 weaks (Cialis maybe for longer):
- i hope original 5mg Cialis 2 times a weak (shouldn't it be EVERY 36 hours???),
- 3.5g Arginin before bodytraining (fitness),
- 4.5g Creatin before bodytraining (fitness),
- Maybe 1g Arginin after,
- Maca (how much, 2g a day? and when? at morning at evening?),
- 50mg Zink a day (when?),
- 1g Ginseng Panax (at breakfast/morning or 2 times 500mg a day?),
- 180 or 240mg Ginkgo Bilob,
- Glucosamine Chondroitine MSM for joints repair,
- 150mg Magnesium (when?),
- Vitamin-E 270mg RRR-alpha-Tocopherol (at evening),
- 1g to 3g Omega3 (at evening),
- sure some Vitamin-C and maybe some low multivitamins
- and kegels every second day, some 100 fast and then 3x12 slow and holding a little,
- haven't found a supplier for tribulus at my place so i think i won't test tribulus right now, also the above is expensive already,
- cold shower.
Drinking much water, trying to sleep enough. I already eat healthy, train 4 times a weak (1 hour) and do run some times a weak for 15 minutes.
Does this supplement combination cause any health problems? I tried most of them individually already, BUT NOT AT SAME TIME, haven't had Maca and Panax Ginseng before only american ginseng 750mg.
Have tried one time 5mg Cialis and i had strong night erections, no joke! So i hope it won't build up in my system, i will not overdo 5mg because it works good enough for me in no-sex situations. And at that time i have had not Arginine, which should make bloodflow even stronger.
I'm scared about a not stopping erection.
Is it normal that sperm seems yellow on white background (on paper for example)?
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It seems i can take cialis every 4 or 5 days and keep it in the system every day or will it only work the first day? [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hm[/words] i was thinking about tuesday and friday and maybe doing the first 2 times in EOD (every other day), to build up. 8mg is to much for me.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30863&page=4
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30863&page=4
tbirdy;284192 said:
Tnx. How do you mean "often take the next one"? You mean the body gets used to 5mg?
I'm hope the combination of natural stimulants like Ginseng and than Cialis wont result in a priapism.
I'm hope the combination of natural stimulants like Ginseng and than Cialis wont result in a priapism.
I take cialis every 3rd, 4th or 5th day, it's very difficult for me to say exactly how often, so just experiment. I take 20mg at the time. You could also, take 5mg every day, if you want. The key words here are: experiment, and take the other stuff after you get your cialis dosage and timing right..
TNX.
I will start Cialis tomorrow and the other stuff around 1st July. So i have 10 days to feel Cialis alone.
I will do Cialis Friday, Saturday, Monday and than Thursday i think. From that point on only every 3rd to 5th days if it will work right.
Have you everyday great nightwood and morningwoods (from the time you started taking Cialis)? Or only the day you take Cialis? After my first 5mg Cialis test i have had only the first night good nightwood and morningwoods, i have taken it at 13:00h.
I will start Cialis tomorrow and the other stuff around 1st July. So i have 10 days to feel Cialis alone.
I will do Cialis Friday, Saturday, Monday and than Thursday i think. From that point on only every 3rd to 5th days if it will work right.
Have you everyday great nightwood and morningwoods (from the time you started taking Cialis)? Or only the day you take Cialis? After my first 5mg Cialis test i have had only the first night good nightwood and morningwoods, i have taken it at 13:00h.
Wow, it seems a lot of you guys are going through to what i went myself not long ago. Thank god it worked out for me and I had my ed problem for 2 months before i started on fixing it. I think it happened because i way overworked my penis in my exercises. At first i was planning to see a doctor but i chAnged my mind after reading some articles around in the internet. What i did was exercising a lot, eating a lot of fruits(especially bananas), vegetables, omega3for my nervous system, and finally drinking a lot of Pomegranate juice. i started to see some progress after two weeks and fortunately for me now it's all working ok.
I hope you guys also a find a solution because it's really the worst thing that could happen to a man.
I hope you guys also a find a solution because it's really the worst thing that could happen to a man.