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fiddler said:
Another point that makes it irrelevant is this:
The variance within any given "race" is just as wide as any variance between separate races.
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I agree with the last post dld wrote....a lot of people black, white, asian, european...get their info from where....t.v. news...radio...which is all controlled outlets...like this artilcle which actually started by talking about blacks not visiting ���� shops and using dildo....it was one reporter going to one shop and wrote one article...i'm black and majority of my friends are and we all have toys...all our women love toys....it's not that we can't satisfy them but we all experiment with different things...i think it's fun to pull out props and gadgets, oils, foods,..all for the sake of having a good time....my girl cums everytime we fuck...now i do realize that me and my friends are a lot different than some people what some consider taboo or nasty we consider fun...what is the point of having sex if you can't completely enjoy yourself...i do know that their is nothing like the real thing...and nothing compares to a stiff dick..but hey using toys can be fun...and i for one am not scared to walk in any shop to get movies, toys or any other material that is going to get me and my girl off...100
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i also enjoyed reading the debate on racism...it is funny to hear people talk about this subject...cuz i am sure almost everyone here one point in their life was mistreated because of the color of their skin or ethnicity...we take those occasion and form views as a whole...which isn't right...i hear people say i'm not racist..i like blacks....or i have black friends..why can't they just be friends..hopefully we all have friends or aquantances of other races and religions...to broaden our views and perspectives.
like most inner cities i grew up around mostly blacks...but we had all kinds in the neighborhood....my bestfriend of 11 years and now girlfriend is a beautiful albanian woman...she grew up on the same block as me...dealt with the same struggles growing up...just like the asian cats from my block.and peurto ricans...and especially the haitians..we grew up together not fighting....for what we was all in the same shit....the whole nigger or nigga...whatever you want to use was a frequent word we all used as we grew up...i never took offense to this hearing it from the people i grew up with...cuz i knew it was not out of hatred or spite...or meant to be dearogatory...they grew up just like me...we called each other that...don't get me wrong someone outside my circle saying would not be tolerated...hey that is just the way of the world...i'm sure everyone crew is like that....but i feel many people that posted have valid points....long story short we all got it hard...we all know struggle..regardless what race....they are going to be people always in the grind and they are going to be priveledged people...this is not based on race....yeah i know minorities (all included) had a slow start coming out the gate..but they are slowly but surely closing the gaps...that is the ones that want too....we are in the land of opportunity....i came up out the 'jects....i am in college...after here i'm going to grad school...our system is still fucked up...but it is been liked that since our first president and honestly is a slow changing process....but as long you we honor our mother and father...be good to one another...take care of our kids...hey everything else will fall into place...out
like most inner cities i grew up around mostly blacks...but we had all kinds in the neighborhood....my bestfriend of 11 years and now girlfriend is a beautiful albanian woman...she grew up on the same block as me...dealt with the same struggles growing up...just like the asian cats from my block.and peurto ricans...and especially the haitians..we grew up together not fighting....for what we was all in the same shit....the whole nigger or nigga...whatever you want to use was a frequent word we all used as we grew up...i never took offense to this hearing it from the people i grew up with...cuz i knew it was not out of hatred or spite...or meant to be dearogatory...they grew up just like me...we called each other that...don't get me wrong someone outside my circle saying would not be tolerated...hey that is just the way of the world...i'm sure everyone crew is like that....but i feel many people that posted have valid points....long story short we all got it hard...we all know struggle..regardless what race....they are going to be people always in the grind and they are going to be priveledged people...this is not based on race....yeah i know minorities (all included) had a slow start coming out the gate..but they are slowly but surely closing the gaps...that is the ones that want too....we are in the land of opportunity....i came up out the 'jects....i am in college...after here i'm going to grad school...our system is still fucked up...but it is been liked that since our first president and honestly is a slow changing process....but as long you we honor our mother and father...be good to one another...take care of our kids...hey everything else will fall into place...out
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Ok, a long the lines of this whole satisfying women thing and black men. Here is another one it would be interesting to hear some comments on. And that is black men and performing oral sex on women. The reason I bring this up is that many times I have read or heard black men say that eating pussy is something a "faggot" does. ( interesting since I thought male on female was a heterosexual act).
This relates to this topic, because from what I infer from these comments: It is implying that it is only "manly" to fuck a women ( by penetrating vaginally) and I guess somehow needing to stimulate her orally means you are small or cant fuck or something. Now I must admit most of my black friends do eat pussy and a lot of the anti-pussy talk is stuff people write on message boards etc.
This actually came from the Sex Issue of a magazine ( I think XXL, but not sure) where many rappers talked about their sex practices ( some even admitted to not having huge dicks or just being medium or not "ponr size" etc, kinda candid and refreshing).. But all these people on a hip hop message board I frequent ( allhiphop) were saying things like " I cant believe so and so admitting to eating pussy.. and he is just a pussy eating faggot"... Same people also got way otu of line when Usher said a girl had stuck her finger in his ass. I posted something about how its not that big a deal and that it happens , and its not like he got a dick or a strapon up his ass, then all these people said I was a faggot who got fucked by women ( again notice the contradiction) and their message board was "homo free in 2004" and that I would get banned for being a faggot as they put it.
So the reason I bring this up is this is a viewpoint I have seen from some predominently black groups of people and I guess this relates to the whole "__________ COmplex" Any thoughts?
This relates to this topic, because from what I infer from these comments: It is implying that it is only "manly" to fuck a women ( by penetrating vaginally) and I guess somehow needing to stimulate her orally means you are small or cant fuck or something. Now I must admit most of my black friends do eat pussy and a lot of the anti-pussy talk is stuff people write on message boards etc.
This actually came from the Sex Issue of a magazine ( I think XXL, but not sure) where many rappers talked about their sex practices ( some even admitted to not having huge dicks or just being medium or not "ponr size" etc, kinda candid and refreshing).. But all these people on a hip hop message board I frequent ( allhiphop) were saying things like " I cant believe so and so admitting to eating pussy.. and he is just a pussy eating faggot"... Same people also got way otu of line when Usher said a girl had stuck her finger in his ass. I posted something about how its not that big a deal and that it happens , and its not like he got a dick or a strapon up his ass, then all these people said I was a faggot who got fucked by women ( again notice the contradiction) and their message board was "homo free in 2004" and that I would get banned for being a faggot as they put it.
So the reason I bring this up is this is a viewpoint I have seen from some predominently black groups of people and I guess this relates to the whole "__________ COmplex" Any thoughts?
I think that to "them", eating pussy is seen as subservient. Just like when a "bitch" or a "ho" "gives them some brain". They see oral as the suck-er being lower in status than the suck-ee.
Going "downtown" is something a woman does, and no "real" man goes downtown.
Then again, who knows?? Maybe the chicks these guys know have really nasty, stinkin' pussies.
Going "downtown" is something a woman does, and no "real" man goes downtown.
Then again, who knows?? Maybe the chicks these guys know have really nasty, stinkin' pussies.
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Would you guys stop using hip hop culture, hiphip language, and rappers as representatives of black people. Damn man, people kill me with that. You think some article in XXL or some rapper saying "bitch gave me some brain" is what black people really think. That's like quoting some heavy metal band and saying" all white guys think this" because such and such said it.
SOme of you guys listen to a little bit of rap music and think that you now know black culture and its not the case. Rap music and black thought is mutually exclusive.
People are so fixated on race in this country it is just proposterous some of the conclusions that are drawn solely because of skin color.
SOme of you guys listen to a little bit of rap music and think that you now know black culture and its not the case. Rap music and black thought is mutually exclusive.
People are so fixated on race in this country it is just proposterous some of the conclusions that are drawn solely because of skin color.
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I know. I wasn't making a statement about the genesis of rock and roll. I was drawing a parellel between the current artistry bases of both genres.
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I like what you got to say, i think you are right.twins172_up said:
Well my life didnt start so good, my father became an alcoholic and was very evil. So my momma and i had to move, to my grandma. Later to a suburb, and she got a boyfriend who was good in the beginning but later he became satan himself. Because one day when my ant and my mom and me were home. He came into the appartment building, and he smashed holes in the wooden door with a crowbar. He almost made it, if it hadnt been for some neighbours getting him out of there. Who knows what could of happend otherwise...
So the start wasnt so good, well it maybe isnt as bad as for others. But my momma made the best of the situation. when i was like 8-10years old i stole a purse and things for about $150. Not so much, i know. Then in the same years i stole for $500, video games and such. I never figured out why i started, it was so easy. My friends and i liked to destroy things outside aslo... Then i just stopped, i dont know why either, but it was good because i could have been some other person then i am today.
To be honest i miss being criminal :/ Everyday i think of stealing cars and such. But i never do it.
This aint nothing compared to others, in america its probably alot more, because of the size and the condition there.
Many have also lived that flavless wonderfull life with both parents to, but i havent. Dont know how that is, im yellous about folks that have.
Well now this thread wasnt about me... :D
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Id tell ya which rapper I am but ud never believe me anyways 
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Bigbutnottoo,
First, I don't think I pointed out anyone in particular. Second: I didn't call anyone racist...you are drawing unjust conclusions. My point is very simple..there are alot of references in this thread quoting rap songs and rappers and using those references as protocols for what black people think: This is a major misjudgement of a reference point. That is my point. Whether you have black friends or they come to you in particular for opinions on black music is a completely different matter which I am totallay indifferent. Again my point was simple and unilateral towards anyone making the claim...Hiphop doesn't represent black culture.
First, I don't think I pointed out anyone in particular. Second: I didn't call anyone racist...you are drawing unjust conclusions. My point is very simple..there are alot of references in this thread quoting rap songs and rappers and using those references as protocols for what black people think: This is a major misjudgement of a reference point. That is my point. Whether you have black friends or they come to you in particular for opinions on black music is a completely different matter which I am totallay indifferent. Again my point was simple and unilateral towards anyone making the claim...Hiphop doesn't represent black culture.
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goingdeeper said:
It's cool. I took it personal because you didn't name any names, but I was the one who was writing about the subject. Your point is accepted.
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now i can't speak for every black male in the world...and i never would try but for this one...my first sexual experience was going down on a girl...before i knew what i was doing i was eating chicks out....and i will admit i did get into the anal game in my mid twenties but have enjoyed that as well....i don't expect every guy regardless of his ethnicity or nationality to be candid about what they are into....i think a lot of it has to deal with the fact that society makes us feel guilty or embarrassed about some pleasures we may partake in....like i said i can't hold the whole race on my shoulders...but for this man right here...i find that majority of the stereotypes about us are false
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twins172_up said:
I appreciate your post. I also think you make a good point about people not being candid about what all they do or are into. I can understand also that people may tend to put on a front to come off a certain way, when privately they act differently. This of course applies to all races. As I said before, most of my black friends do talk about eating pussy,etc. My post was brought up more because some of these stereotypes just keep popping up and are things I keep hearing, so i was looking for some input. I do think however, there is a broad spectrum of experience/attitudes in any race. For example, among black males I know some that prefer to date white females and others that would never be with any one other than a black woman ( I was also a little surprised people like 50 cent had never been with a white woman, considering the availability of groupies,etc). There are different factors concerning sexual behavior, I think even including environment, location ( regional), etc.
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I didn't read the article or much of this thread. I just wanted to comment on this from a woman's perspective. NOTHING....I mean NOTHING can come close to the feeling of a hard, warm cock. A 6" penis feels 100% better than a 9" dildo. It's not just the feeling of having our pussy stretched, it is the whole man. Smelling his scent, feeling his hot skin, dripping sweat on us, the way he moves. It's like a joke to compare the two.Xulf said:Definitely a good read, thanks DLD
I can see what he is talking about though. For me, there is no way I would buy my girlfriend a sex vibrator/dildo, I know others disagree with me and find that they enhance sex and all that. But "I" want to be the one to satisfy her and I would feel inadequate if she had to use a device.
Well maybe I would buy her a small one so should would appreciate my size more
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