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To YATAGHAN...thanks for the advice. My fear in using a cock ring is that it may make the problem worse. My logic is when I achieved that big and buldging vieny look by squeezing my penis, thats when it started to go soft. Im not sure that artificially trapping the blood by clamping the base is a good idea. The only way I can explain it is whenever I become stuffed w/ blood in the head and shaft, the blood is just itching to rush back out, as fast as possible.
To YATAGHAN...thanks for the advice. My fear in using a cock ring is that it may make the problem worse. My logic is when I achieved that big and buldging vieny look by squeezing my penis, thats when it started to go soft. Im not sure that artificially trapping the blood by clamping the base is a good idea. The only way I can explain it is whenever I become stuffed w/ blood in the head and shaft, the blood is just itching to rush back out, as fast as possible.
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U hang weights from your dick with this device i noticed that upper angles like so and ots are good for getting steel erections alltho it could be the same with btc and hanging straight down but i did not spend much time hanging at lower angles and i dont remember what my erections where like.
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ok i'm a little confused and worried.....so can Penis Enlargement (ie. jelqing too hard) actually cause these types of erections problems? i'm a little worried because i've been having trouble achieving full erections ever since i started doing supra slammers and don't know if my weaker erections is related to jelqing too hard or not... sorry if this is a stupid question or if i had missed the answer to this question in earlier replies but i'm just curious....?
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yathagan,
I think you should give Penis Enlargement a real shot before you decide anything else. I would say dry jelqs instead of wet jelqs could be better to avoid working out those outer outflow veins. And of course, start training you BC muscle real good.
This problaby doesn't really apply to the rest of you guys.
I think you should give Penis Enlargement a real shot before you decide anything else. I would say dry jelqs instead of wet jelqs could be better to avoid working out those outer outflow veins. And of course, start training you BC muscle real good.
This problaby doesn't really apply to the rest of you guys.
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digster said:
What I mean is a regular (palm up) as opposed to an overhand (palm down) ok grip.
A overhand ok grip will that tissue between your thumb and forefinger pressing directly over the dorsal side of your dick, right over the dorsal vein, therefore working it out which will probably result in growth of it.
Now, I should have said use a modified regular ok grip, in which the thumb is actually pointing more forward and not pressing on the top (dorsal sided) of the penis, therefore avoiding any direct pressure on the dorsal vein.
It's just an idea. What do you think? I can't try it right now, but I will on my next jelq session.
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digster said:
Well, this idea was directed mainly towards yathagan, becouse he seems to have pinpointed his issues to the dorsal vein.
A lot of people wet jelq with an overhand grip and have no problems, so I don't think it's something to be afraid of, at least for the majority of men.
What do you guys here think about this? Should we really try to avoid increasing most outer veins size?
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Thanks for the advice.
However, I have actually been deliberatly using overhand palm down grip. I find with regular palm up grip my thumb really presses down on the vein, so much so I see it move side to side from the pressure (this vein of mine is quite thick and very prevalent like I've mentioned).
Just going on a quick tangent I think its a vein...it is not purple coloured like my other veins it is just like a shallow rod jutting out from my shaft that is skin coloured...but yeh I am pretty sure this is just how the deep dorsal vein appears so it is probably it.
But yeh with the overhand grip there seems to be less pressure on it...and I also 'feel' better after the session, because when I use normal grip I think I stimulate the vein and it causes my flaccid to hang smaller after a P.E session...but if I use the other grip this doesn't happen.
Personally I don't the problem these guys are having is from vein growth. I think the vein, in most cases it seems the deep dorsal has been somehow damaged to it no longer clamps down properly to keep blood in the shaft. If more veins are created/original ones made more prevalent/better, and close themselves off like normal veins do during an erection, said erection theoretically should be stronger. However like I said I believe the vein(s) have been damaged.
I have a theory that in some men, the deep dorsal vein is not buried 'as deep' in the shaft in some men as compared to others. Therefore, it is more susceptible to damage from pressure. And if such a men was to follow a rigorous P.E program....well you can see the results.
It is really hard to say though. I am supposed to have been born with this, but I think it is possible my vein could have been 'raised' and not buried deep in the shaft, and was damaged during childhood. Who knows. Jan 30 I am having tests that will pinpoint exactly what is going on with me, and whether my problem is from damage or if its congenital. Either way I am going to tinker with P.E and also pumping, which I have read can also help create new veins etc, and hope to have such a great blood flow into my penis that it 'cancels out' the blood leaving it. This will be however a long process, and I will probabaly go for surgery after further extensive research.
To the guy who wasn't sure about cock rings - I have use one without problem, and I asked my urologist about it and he basically said he would have prescribed one for me anyway. As long as you don't wear it to long, and you don't get ones that are extremely firm like metal (Get a rubber one thats not too tight, and slightly expands as you get an erection but still has enough pressure to clamp down on the vein and stop it leaking) you SHOULD be sweet. But I'm not doctor, and I'm just 18 and really don't know shit. So see a urologist. EVERYONE with this should see a urologist.
Finally to end this very long boring post I think this should not be a deterrent to P.E, it seems there are various erection benefits from it if you are sensible with it. For fucks sake use common sense and don't over do it.
However, I have actually been deliberatly using overhand palm down grip. I find with regular palm up grip my thumb really presses down on the vein, so much so I see it move side to side from the pressure (this vein of mine is quite thick and very prevalent like I've mentioned).
Just going on a quick tangent I think its a vein...it is not purple coloured like my other veins it is just like a shallow rod jutting out from my shaft that is skin coloured...but yeh I am pretty sure this is just how the deep dorsal vein appears so it is probably it.
But yeh with the overhand grip there seems to be less pressure on it...and I also 'feel' better after the session, because when I use normal grip I think I stimulate the vein and it causes my flaccid to hang smaller after a P.E session...but if I use the other grip this doesn't happen.
Personally I don't the problem these guys are having is from vein growth. I think the vein, in most cases it seems the deep dorsal has been somehow damaged to it no longer clamps down properly to keep blood in the shaft. If more veins are created/original ones made more prevalent/better, and close themselves off like normal veins do during an erection, said erection theoretically should be stronger. However like I said I believe the vein(s) have been damaged.
I have a theory that in some men, the deep dorsal vein is not buried 'as deep' in the shaft in some men as compared to others. Therefore, it is more susceptible to damage from pressure. And if such a men was to follow a rigorous P.E program....well you can see the results.
It is really hard to say though. I am supposed to have been born with this, but I think it is possible my vein could have been 'raised' and not buried deep in the shaft, and was damaged during childhood. Who knows. Jan 30 I am having tests that will pinpoint exactly what is going on with me, and whether my problem is from damage or if its congenital. Either way I am going to tinker with P.E and also pumping, which I have read can also help create new veins etc, and hope to have such a great blood flow into my penis that it 'cancels out' the blood leaving it. This will be however a long process, and I will probabaly go for surgery after further extensive research.
To the guy who wasn't sure about cock rings - I have use one without problem, and I asked my urologist about it and he basically said he would have prescribed one for me anyway. As long as you don't wear it to long, and you don't get ones that are extremely firm like metal (Get a rubber one thats not too tight, and slightly expands as you get an erection but still has enough pressure to clamp down on the vein and stop it leaking) you SHOULD be sweet. But I'm not doctor, and I'm just 18 and really don't know shit. So see a urologist. EVERYONE with this should see a urologist.
Finally to end this very long boring post I think this should not be a deterrent to P.E, it seems there are various erection benefits from it if you are sensible with it. For fucks sake use common sense and don't over do it.
Others may disagree, but I dont think urologists know SHIT in this area. Theres lots of stories floating around about how messed up peoples dicks got after surgery to correct impotence. Someone wrote this in another thread, but they treat prostate cancer.
In roads into impotence are lagging at best. Besides, WTF are you going to walk in and tell your urologist, 'i fucked my dick up by tugging, stretching, and pumping it. now its not hard.' Sure son, I see this all the time, have a seat.
Thats why I come to this forum. I think this only partially charted territory. Maybe a handful of doctors in the country know how to handle it. Maybe.
In roads into impotence are lagging at best. Besides, WTF are you going to walk in and tell your urologist, 'i fucked my dick up by tugging, stretching, and pumping it. now its not hard.' Sure son, I see this all the time, have a seat.
Thats why I come to this forum. I think this only partially charted territory. Maybe a handful of doctors in the country know how to handle it. Maybe.
Don't know but I've got some kind of bulgy vein-area om top of my dick near the base. It's ON the surface, under the skin. Always had. I reckon this is (part of) the dorsal vein. I don't know this is/can be normal. Maybe it is somewhat more prominent since Penis Enlargement. But maybe that could just be due to more vascularity(?).
I don't know but if I'm doing Uli's or Horse440 squeezes it expands due to the pressure (well, your whole dick expands and also this veiny area). Now I only did this exercises to try out, I don't do them regularly yet. But what do you guys think, could/would the expansion of it (due to the blood you trap with pressure) lead to a permanent enlargement of that part of the vein and possible vein leakage or is it perfectly normal and shouldn't I have to worry.
I don't know but if I'm doing Uli's or Horse440 squeezes it expands due to the pressure (well, your whole dick expands and also this veiny area). Now I only did this exercises to try out, I don't do them regularly yet. But what do you guys think, could/would the expansion of it (due to the blood you trap with pressure) lead to a permanent enlargement of that part of the vein and possible vein leakage or is it perfectly normal and shouldn't I have to worry.
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I have the exact same thing. If it isn't leaking or anything at the moment I wouldn't worry but I would still get it checked out. I have always had mine too but I think since it was so 'raised', as you say it is, it has had so much pressure etc on it throughout my life I have somehow damaged it. Could be wrong, mine could have just always been fucked and yours fine.
But still get it checked out. I am not sure but I think it could be a thing called 'Mondors'...but again since we have always had this thing I am not so sure.
But still get it checked out. I am not sure but I think it could be a thing called 'Mondors'...but again since we have always had this thing I am not so sure.
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wow, what a thread. The title is hard vs soft penises. If you have a problem that others are having and yet no one can come up with the answer that you are looking for (directed right at you franchise boy) then do what the fuck you want to do.
Go be an asshole somewhere else.
For the serious guys with a real problem, IF you have done all of the traditional methods of rest, jelqing and/or kegels and yet still have a problem then what do you think you should do?
GO SEE A DICK DOCTOR! What are you waiting for? Go make the appointment.
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Go be an asshole somewhere else.
For the serious guys with a real problem, IF you have done all of the traditional methods of rest, jelqing and/or kegels and yet still have a problem then what do you think you should do?
GO SEE A DICK DOCTOR! What are you waiting for? Go make the appointment.
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Because Id say only a handful of urologists in the US really know what would be the problem and how to treat the issue. Most would just try and give you some cialis, and if it didnt work, theyd be like well at least you can get it almost erect to use for sex feel lucky.
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When you see so many guys having a similar problem like this you have to think there's either a very simple or complicated solution to fix it.
One thing I've noticed is that the majority of guys who complain about this problem are all under 30 yrs old, not all, but most. One could question whether or not when being youthful/aggressive/enthusiastic in life and about Penis Enlargement if these guys are all not doing some common things wrong...just think about it for a minute.
When I was young I would never have dreamed of doing kegels because I didn't need to. My cock was so hard when erect that when I came inside a woman she could literally feel me cuming. They all told me that including my wife. Then yesterday I asked her if she could still feel me cuming and she said no. And that's even on viagra.
So my point to this part is possibly the younger guys may not actually be doing a very agressive kegel routine even if they say they are. Don't get pissed at me just look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are doing as much kegeling as jelqing or stretching.
To understand this a little deeper, have you ever JUST stretched and not jelqed? It effected your cock in its' flaccid state and erect state, didn't it?
Now I'm not saying that there are guys that truly have a legitimate problem with erections. But if these same guys were to go to two different types of doctors, one for urology and the other for an athletic physical, what would both of them tell you?
As noted earlier, the urologists are not all updated in our field at this point...kind of like bodybuilding in the 50's and the mdeical community. So he might just recommend viagra/cialis.
The other doctor may note some physical deficiencies such as an overall poor level of physical fitness. Hell, many of us sit down most of the day and don't dedicate an hour to cardio vascular training each day now do we? That being the general case, how much does this effect us? Combine that with a pretty crappy diet and we just don't have dick problems but cholestoral issues...and that's while being under 30.
And as far as overtraining goes, I just can't buy into this. I'm probably wrong but an hour a day/7 hours per week, I'm thinking your cock gets plenty of rest. But time off is fine because that's just more rest. Some guys need it, some guys want it.
My point to all of this is that we are human guinea pigs for now and you have to open your mind up to all possibilites and with that you have to be firing on all 8 cylinders in the first place and then you can begin to narrow down many possible problems. The Chinese treat the body to cure the problem. The Americans treat the symptoms but rarely the source of the problem.
One thing I've noticed is that the majority of guys who complain about this problem are all under 30 yrs old, not all, but most. One could question whether or not when being youthful/aggressive/enthusiastic in life and about Penis Enlargement if these guys are all not doing some common things wrong...just think about it for a minute.
When I was young I would never have dreamed of doing kegels because I didn't need to. My cock was so hard when erect that when I came inside a woman she could literally feel me cuming. They all told me that including my wife. Then yesterday I asked her if she could still feel me cuming and she said no. And that's even on viagra.
So my point to this part is possibly the younger guys may not actually be doing a very agressive kegel routine even if they say they are. Don't get pissed at me just look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are doing as much kegeling as jelqing or stretching.
To understand this a little deeper, have you ever JUST stretched and not jelqed? It effected your cock in its' flaccid state and erect state, didn't it?
Now I'm not saying that there are guys that truly have a legitimate problem with erections. But if these same guys were to go to two different types of doctors, one for urology and the other for an athletic physical, what would both of them tell you?
As noted earlier, the urologists are not all updated in our field at this point...kind of like bodybuilding in the 50's and the mdeical community. So he might just recommend viagra/cialis.
The other doctor may note some physical deficiencies such as an overall poor level of physical fitness. Hell, many of us sit down most of the day and don't dedicate an hour to cardio vascular training each day now do we? That being the general case, how much does this effect us? Combine that with a pretty crappy diet and we just don't have dick problems but cholestoral issues...and that's while being under 30.
And as far as overtraining goes, I just can't buy into this. I'm probably wrong but an hour a day/7 hours per week, I'm thinking your cock gets plenty of rest. But time off is fine because that's just more rest. Some guys need it, some guys want it.
My point to all of this is that we are human guinea pigs for now and you have to open your mind up to all possibilites and with that you have to be firing on all 8 cylinders in the first place and then you can begin to narrow down many possible problems. The Chinese treat the body to cure the problem. The Americans treat the symptoms but rarely the source of the problem.
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