MikeShlort;492424 said:
Interesting approach.
Very alpha of you.
I still decay at the seams when I think of a girl I like with a man who is huge. I usually picture them with a 12" penis that she is able to take all the way in and that there would be no way I could ever come even close to giving her similar pleasure, and it usually causes me to act like a retard in public. Then I completely dismiss the girl because I know there is no way I could ever please her.
I've been trying the "I don't give a fuck" approach and for the best 6 months of my life, I lived it. But then this asshole female whom I already thought was amazing started being nice to me, and now I am pathetic again.
I'm positive her boyfriend is at least 12" long and that even if I were to get to 9x7 I would still not be able to please her like he can.
I will likely fight a mind war for the next week, then finally stop thinking about it and ignore her again.
But I am really impressed with your abilities.
I've fixed so many of my pathetic flaws, but this is one I can't conquer.
I wonder what it would take to not allow this?
This only happens when it's a girl I feel for. I could care less about the average hot chick who is taking bigger dick than I can give her.
It's my most embarrassing fault and I hate it, any suggestions?

Dick size has been exaggerated possibly since the beginning of man. For all we know the serpent who convinced Eden to take a bite from the apple was Adams huge Penis Enlargement'd cock, which was methodically grown over 100's of years , like a long complex braided human hair.

E-exaggerating of cock size was a hot thing to do even since the early 90's when the Internet was first invented, and possibly on other Inter University networks ( Plato for example ) before the internet was coined. These exaggerations where the reason many of the guys with 5-6-7" cocks feel like 3 or 4" ers. Due to the large proliferation of 12", 14", 16" even 18" e-Cocks. These large cocks were such a commonality, even I remember my cock felt tiny at 6.75" NBPenis EnlargementL at the age of 17 compared to 18" of John Holmes at the time, which was advertised on his pumping system. I'm thinking this guy has 3 x the cock of me, how the hell am I to please a lady. I didn't know that John Holmes really had a 9-10" cock with a nice girth, probably 6.5"... But it was bumped up to 12", 14" even 18" in some of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and magazine articles of the times.

So just please, believe the statistics. And if you are here, you probably have more than the average joe, no pun intended.
 
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tbone77;492429 said:
if you're gonna go with the "i don't give a fuck" approach, you really have to not give a fuck. otherwise your cover is blown, and instead of being alpha, you look like you don't know who you are. and that will get you no where. and there's nothing wrong with being a "nice" guy as much as we all hate the phrase....you just can't be a push over. women like men who are men, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the size of your cock.

True, guys really have to find a way to be less needy and appreciate what they have and their unique position as a men. I'm not needy because I truly don't care, of course I was having sex with other women whenever I wanted. I don't fall for the relationship scam.

Objectively speaking, women are basically weak little men who have trouble thinking clearly and who's main asset in life is a wet hole between their legs that is in demand for a very short window of time. They are good for making babies and spending all your money but if you want a good conversation or personality chances are you're better off talking to another guy. I know you want a beautiful woman with D cup knockers who is also an expert on philosophy and has all kinds of deep thoughts and is your true soulmate but maybe you better try that lottery ticket instead.

The reality is if you want reliable sex you are probably better paying for it. What you are paying is not for the sex, it's for lack of hoop jumping, head games and leaving you alone afterward.

Put it this way: if you could see the girl you like so much and sex her as much as you want but you couldn't go to the mall, yack on the telephone, pick out flowery curtains, meet her parents, hang out with her idiotic friends, listen to her complain about your shortcomings would that be ok?

I know what my answer is, the day I understood this was a big turning point for me. I don't say this to rag on women so much as to encourage objectivity.

The reality is one day that girl you are so infatuated with will be old and ugly - and no one will look at her or want to listen to her talk about her cat. And then for the first time she will understand what reality is for 80% of men and she will become BITTER. For many women this will be their first taste of reality after a lifetime of freebies.

When I look at a beautiful woman I see not only the beauty but I see the downsides and ugliness. Picture her with poop coming out of her butt, hobbling around in a walker, arguments over the junior's school payments, the divorce settlement, nagging, middle age and all the wrinkles, menopause, etc. Think about that then get back to me on how you can't live without her, sometimes losing is actually winning.

I'm 38 and I've looked up a few of the "ones that got away" on Facebook and I always get a good laugh, they're all fat warthogs now. Me on the other hand, 10 years of bodybuilding/steroids, good diet, growth hormone peptides, low bodyfat, no wrinkles, a little botox here and there, women don't believe me when I tell them my age. I have to whip out the DL and then they freak, everyone guesses 23-27. I get talked down to and called "young man" by 30 year olds and soon I'll have a big fat 7 inch cock. haha. BTW women your age will hate it when you get carded and they get waved through, they turn green.

A beautiful woman is a depreciating asset that someday no one will want to get stuck with. If it floats, flies, or fucks you are better off leasing. There's your perspective.
 
MikeShlort;492425 said:
I tend to believe these things though.
I also think every attractive white woman secretly wants her boyfriend to watch her fuck three black men.
But I know they'll never admit it if i ask

Well I have found that being gangbanged and/or rape is a common fantasy. I don't know that they have to be black, that may be more your kink. hehe

I think black guys are often touted by the media as being more virile or whatever and women are very susceptible to social conditioning. I think that does put white guys at a disadvantage to some extent in the dating market, there is a lot of reverse racism aimed at white guys that would not be acceptable at all if reversed and many women consequently see white men as lower in society than black men.
 
petersouth;492442 said:
True, guys really have to find a way to be less needy and appreciate what they have and their unique position as a men. I'm not needy because I truly don't care, of course I was having sex with other women whenever I wanted. I don't fall for the relationship scam.

Objectively speaking, women are basically weak little men who have trouble thinking clearly and who's main asset in life is a wet hole between their legs that is in demand for a very short window of time. They are good for making babies and spending all your money but if you want a good conversation or personality chances are you're better off talking to another guy. I know you want a beautiful woman with D cup knockers who is also an expert on philosophy and has all kinds of deep thoughts and is your true soulmate but maybe you better try that lottery ticket instead.

The reality is if you want reliable sex you are probably better paying for it. What you are paying is not for the sex, it's for lack of hoop jumping, head games and leaving you alone afterward.

Put it this way: if you could see the girl you like so much and sex her as much as you want but you couldn't go to the mall, yack on the telephone, pick out flowery curtains, meet her parents, hang out with her idiotic friends, listen to her complain about your shortcomings would that be ok?

I know what my answer is, the day I understood this was a big turning point for me. I don't say this to rag on women so much as to encourage objectivity.

The reality is one day that girl you are so infatuated with will be old and ugly - and no one will look at her or want to listen to her talk about her cat. And then for the first time she will understand what reality is for 80% of men and she will become BITTER. For many women this will be their first taste of reality after a lifetime of freebies.

When I look at a beautiful woman I see not only the beauty but I see the downsides and ugliness. Picture her with poop coming out of her butt, hobbling around in a walker, arguments over the junior's school payments, the divorce settlement, nagging, middle age and all the wrinkles, menopause, etc. Think about that then get back to me on how you can't live without her, sometimes losing is actually winning.

I'm 38 and I've looked up a few of the "ones that got away" on Facebook and I always get a good laugh, they're all fat warthogs now. Me on the other hand, 10 years of bodybuilding/steroids, good diet, growth hormone peptides, low bodyfat, no wrinkles, a little botox here and there, women don't believe me when I tell them my age. I have to whip out the DL and then they freak, everyone guesses 23-27. I get talked down to and called "young man" by 30 year olds and soon I'll have a big fat 7 inch cock. haha. BTW women your age will hate it when you get carded and they get waved through, they turn green.

A beautiful woman is a depreciating asset that someday no one will want to get stuck with. If it floats, flies, or fucks you are better off leasing. There's your perspective.

Lol you think exactly how I do. Well done.
The one exception is, the odd time my brain allows me to think for a second there are women who are actually decent humans, regardless of how they play the game and how many guys they've had. They're just playing the hand they were dealt. I think a lot of the abuse their gifts but I also think there are many beautiful women who are also beautiful on the inside, they just have to play the social game because they are more dependent on human interaction than some men are.
Even we feel the need to come here and communicate with each other to fill some void we have in our real lives.
Some days I'm completely against women but other times I give them a break.
I guess that's what makes me a sucker
 
this thread as become so negative it's unreal. It's meant to be a post showing average penis size (something that any new member will likely read) and I hate to say it but if any one them has a partner and reads these last few pages then god help them.

Hate to be blunt but it seems some people have some real deep seeded issues on women around here.
 
Thans for the thread. It is really helpfull for us newbies. I agree that the average statistic is bit unreal, but the rest is just fine.
 
pUNKY;492503 said:
this thread as become so negative it's unreal. It's meant to be a post showing average penis size (something that any new member will likely read) and I hate to say it but if any one them has a partner and reads these last few pages then god help them.

Hate to be blunt but it seems some people have some real deep seeded issues on women around here.

Well that's likely to be the case at a penis enlargement forum
 
Sorry if I offended anyone, there may be hope for you yet Mike.

I get along with women great even though i am a selfish bastard who has a somewhat dim view of them. It's part of my charm.

Don't know if this has been posted earlier but here is a nice world map of penis size with sources:

hxxp://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073&embed

India: 4 inches
Equador: 6.9
USA: 5.1

It looks like Ecuador has the largest average size.
 
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petersouth;492631 said:
Sorry if I offended anyone, there may be hope for you yet Mike.

I get along with women great even though i am a selfish bastard who has a somewhat dim view of them. It's part of my charm.

Don't know if this has been posted earlier but here is a nice world map of penis size with sources:

hxxp://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073&embed

India: 4 inches
Equador: 6.9
USA: 5.1

It looks like Ecuador has the largest average size.

I guess my whole point of these terrible rants was that average size is meaningless information because most women have sex with many men. We should not use average size charts to make us feel good/bad.
Sorry about my negativity. These forums are really great and I am gaining so I guess I should stop being such a sourpuss!
 
MikeShlort;492633 said:
I guess my whole point of these terrible rants was that average size is meaningless information because most women have sex with many men. We should not use average size charts to make us feel good/bad.
Sorry about my negativity. These forums are really great and I am gaining so I guess I should stop being such a sourpuss!

But it should make you feel better that it's pretty attainable for most to be considered large, except maybe in Ecuador. Take a trip to China, you'll feel better.
 
MikeShlort;492633 said:
I guess my whole point of these terrible rants was that average size is meaningless information because most women have sex with many men. We should not use average size charts to make us feel good/bad.
Sorry about my negativity. These forums are really great and I am gaining so I guess I should stop being such a sourpuss!

I didn't mean it as a dig, I understand everyone has their own view on women and I fully appreciate your perspective and I do agree with a lot of it, I have trusted women and been cheated on and it sucks, but to be fair that experience made me stronger. In any relationship there's a chance one of you could cheat, if my gf cheats then I pick myself up and move on. The key for me is not never letting a women get close to you in fear that she may cheat but more having the self respect that if you are with a girl and it sadly happens you know you are worth more than that and you move on.

The whole, all women want big hung dicks of course is true, but from a lot of what you have posted you really seem to have a deluded idea how how rare they see one. Most women you personally have been with Mike (from your stats) will find you to be the biggest they have had, if (on the rare occasion) not, easily within the top tier. Whether you choose to believe that or not is up to you but it's FACT. That's why these size charts are important and valid, guys lie about size and women cannot measure, these charts give you factual information on what most people are packing.

For me I feel women are a lot more attracted to confidence rather than dick size. They both just sometimes come hand in hand, any guy who is genuinely hung will probably try and whip it out whenever he can so women can see it, now yes women will want to know what a big cock feels like but a lot of them will be massively turned on by just the share confidence of a guy openly getting his cock out or talking about his cock so openly, make sense?

I have a friend that always gets his cock out, I'm talking he will go up to girls in a club with his dick hanging out. I shit you not he walks up to tables of hot girls and puts his dick on their shoulder. Now he is not hung, he's rocking a 6" give or take and he tells every girl he has a small dick. His gets so much ass it's unreal, Ive spoke to women he's fucked and a lot of what they say is they just loved his confidence and could see he is very happy with himself and his self image, which was a huge turn on for them.

Imagine a women had two guys, one rocking a 8x6 but extremely nervous in the bedroom, could take not take control, had no confidence and just kept asking her needy questions (generally a bad lover). Then you have a guy with a 6x5 but huge self confidence, will take full control in the bedroom, will tell her what he wants and will smash her to high heaven. If she fucked them both, I do genuinely believe, if we based it on the whole experience she would enjoy it with the average guy more.

Anyway that's just my opinion.
 
petersouth;492639 said:
But it should make you feel better that it's pretty attainable for most to be considered large, except maybe in Ecuador. Take a trip to China, you'll feel better.

I only like white girls :/
 
pUNKY;492647 said:
I didn't mean it as a dig, I understand everyone has their own view on women and I fully appreciate your perspective and I do agree with a lot of it, I have trusted women and been cheated on and it sucks, but to be fair that experience made me stronger. In any relationship there's a chance one of you could cheat, if my gf cheats then I pick myself up and move on. The key for me is not never letting a women get close to you in fear that she may cheat but more having the self respect that if you are with a girl and it sadly happens you know you are worth more than that and you move on.

The whole, all women want big hung dicks of course is true, but from a lot of what you have posted you really seem to have a deluded idea how how rare they see one. Most women you personally have been with Mike (from your stats) will find you to be the biggest they have had, if (on the rare occasion) not, easily within the top tier. Whether you choose to believe that or not is up to you but it's FACT. That's why these size charts are important and valid, guys lie about size and women cannot measure, these charts give you factual information on what most people are packing.

For me I feel women are a lot more attracted to confidence rather than dick size. They both just sometimes come hand in hand, any guy who is genuinely hung will probably try and whip it out whenever he can so women can see it, now yes women will want to know what a big cock feels like but a lot of them will be massively turned on by just the share confidence of a guy openly getting his cock out or talking about his cock so openly, make sense?

I have a friend that always gets his cock out, I'm talking he will go up to girls in a club with his dick hanging out. I shit you not he walks up to tables of hot girls and puts his dick on their shoulder. Now he is not hung, he's rocking a 6" give or take and he tells every girl he has a small dick. His gets so much ass it's unreal, Ive spoke to women he's fucked and a lot of what they say is they just loved his confidence and could see he is very happy with himself and his self image, which was a huge turn on for them.

Imagine a women had two guys, one rocking a 8x6 but extremely nervous in the bedroom, could take not take control, had no confidence and just kept asking her needy questions (generally a bad lover). Then you have a guy with a 6x5 but huge self confidence, will take full control in the bedroom, will tell her what he wants and will smash her to high heaven. If she fucked them both, I do genuinely believe, if we based it on the whole experience she would enjoy it with the average guy more.

Anyway that's just my opinion.

Guys who openly talk about their penis sizes to women are douchebags. Women who are into these guys are not what I'm looking for. It's the equivalent of the guy at the bar wearing an Affliction shirt with a faux hawk haircut and tattoos. If I had a big penis and I knew a girl only wanted to fuck me because of it, I would fuck her like a whore and spit in her face. I'm not into peacocking and showboating, I'm into destroying these guys. These are the guys I am competing against because they are so fucking cheesy it offends me. These are the kind of turds I strive each day to be better than, because when then what do they have left? All they are is a shell of a human, a mannequin. A good body is attainable, a big penis is attainable, confidence is attainable. Attain passion, attain integrity, attain depth. Guys like that are my enemy. I promise I will fuck better than they ever could.

And I hate the "a small penis that knows how to work it, has confidence is btter than a big one that doesn't know how to work it etc." Thats a cop out. We should all be try to be the big penis that knows how to work it.

I'm not going at your man, I just feel strongly about these topics. I'm not here to become the Jersey Shore lowest common denominator douchebag that goes to the bar and "smashes" sluts. I'm here to shit on those guys. I want to become a real man, not a facsimile.

Sorry about the rant, I'm not going at you like I said, just wanna make it clear that I don't want to get girls that way. At least not a woman I respect. Maybe if I'm drunk and horny and feel like using a human :(
 
Mike, Mike, Mike! Women like men who are men. And a man doesn't care about another man unless he's up in his business. If it takes tattoos and an $80 Affliction t shirt to score, and that works for him, great. The problem isn't with the guy, it's that you see that it can work. It seems to me that you make things more complicated that they need to be. Any woman that's gonna do a one night stand isn't going to pick the complicated guy. Think of the escort/client relationship....you go into the hotel room, you put the money on the dresser, and it's on. It's simple and friggin beautiful.

Trust me, I wasted my 20's thinking a lot like you, and it got me no where.
 
Yo Mike, Leave those Ed Hardy douchebags in the dust!
I feel a lot of your points and your passion truly shows in your posts.
I know its part of your fuel, but don't be so hard on your self, you are smart enough to know what you want, and that is the most important.
Keep pushin
 
MikeShlort;492851 said:
Guys who openly talk about their penis sizes to women are douchebags. Women who are into these guys are not what I'm looking for. It's the equivalent of the guy at the bar wearing an Affliction shirt with a faux hawk haircut and tattoos. If I had a big penis and I knew a girl only wanted to fuck me because of it, I would fuck her like a whore and spit in her face. I'm not into peacocking and showboating, I'm into destroying these guys. These are the guys I am competing against because they are so fucking cheesy it offends me. These are the kind of turds I strive each day to be better than, because when then what do they have left? All they are is a shell of a human, a mannequin. A good body is attainable, a big penis is attainable, confidence is attainable. Attain passion, attain integrity, attain depth. Guys like that are my enemy. I promise I will fuck better than they ever could.

And I hate the "a small penis that knows how to work it, has confidence is btter than a big one that doesn't know how to work it etc." Thats a cop out. We should all be try to be the big penis that knows how to work it.

I'm not going at your man, I just feel strongly about these topics. I'm not here to become the Jersey Shore lowest common denominator douchebag that goes to the bar and "smashes" sluts. I'm here to shit on those guys. I want to become a real man, not a facsimile.

Sorry about the rant, I'm not going at you like I said, just wanna make it clear that I don't want to get girls that way. At least not a woman I respect. Maybe if I'm drunk and horny and feel like using a human :(

I take no offense by what your saying Mike, like I say I respect a lot of your points.

When you put it like the above mate I agree 100%. I too hate those type of characters and can understand that is your motivation. I guess I'm just a bit confused, some posts you are quite 'anti women' in the sense that there all worthless and 'just want threesomes with black guys and then some posts you want a women you can respect.

I'm a strong believer in treat people how you expect to be treated, I have no doubt you will find what you are looking for, as stated by others you are extremely passionate and it shines through. I just feel people that have the whole women are trash attitude will only attract the women that have no self respect and will allow them to be treated like cum bins, theses like you say,are just worthless.

By no mean's am I saying, be a walk over to any women, hell no, but respect is a mutual thing and I tend to find a women that won't take too much shit is generally a bit higher class and worth more of your time.
 
pUNKY;492882 said:
I take no offense by what your saying Mike, like I say I respect a lot of your points.

When you put it like the above mate I agree 100%. I too hate those type of characters and can understand that is your motivation. I guess I'm just a bit confused, some posts you are quite 'anti women' in the sense that there all worthless and 'just want threesomes with black guys and then some posts you want a women you can respect.

I'm a strong believer in treat people how you expect to be treated, I have no doubt you will find what you are looking for, as stated by others you are extremely passionate and it shines through. I just feel people that have the whole women are trash attitude will only attract the women that have no self respect and will allow them to be treated like cum bins, theses like you say,are just worthless.

By no mean's am I saying, be a walk over to any women, hell no, but respect is a mutual thing and I tend to find a women that won't take too much shit is generally a bit higher class and worth more of your time.

This is not really about women per se but the legal and societal realities we inhabit. With the rise of feminism, social media, no fault divorce, VAWA and so forth you're better off staying away from committment.

Like I said, any ugly bitch can get a decent looking boyfriend. It wasn't always like this in USA and it isn't that way in less feminist countries. With the massive legal power and options women have now the average guy is shut out in favor of the top 10-20% of guys who fuck all the women. The average guy can't even ask a woman out in the office for fear of being thrown into the street, this means thugs and dick whipper outers get the girls.

If a husband argues with his wife she can call jackboots with MP5s to put their foot on his neck or take his kids. Consequently most husbands are whipped dogs and their wives lose respect for them, that is why your premise fails - women treat men well only while they still respect them. Soon they are divorced and he becomes her slave and may even rot in prison if he loses his job. That is the reality for most guys today, we all see it but think it won't happen to us.

We are just living in a very bad time and place to be a man, like Russia circa 1917. There's a reason why Russian men don't give a fuck about women and leave most of them to fend for themselves, 100 years of feminism shoved down their throats by the commies. We are on the same trajectory.
 
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