Peter South's PGE1 (caverject) Experiment

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Well I finally got everything I needed and got started. Here is the list of materials.

Bottle of PGE1 100mcg/ml x 10ml
Syringes 1" 30G
48 ct box of Sudafed (for bringing down erections if needed)
Doc Johnson adjustable leather cock ring with metal snaps [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] (later if all is well).

Took a base measurement:

6 inches NBPL
5 inches EG
7 inches BPL

NBPL measurement increases to almost 6.25-6.5 sitting down but I'm using the standing measurement as I think it is more accurate.

I'll use these stats to gauge my progress through then end of August.

Daily goal is 3 hours 6 days a week for a total of 18 hours. This should be sufficient for growth.

Will note any additional Penis Enlargement activity in log but plan to wear [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4 hours daily at work.
 
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7/28/2012

Injected 5mcg into the side of the penis mid shaft in flaccid state while wearing cock ring to keep injection local. Pressed needle all the way in, didn't hurt much.

5 minutes later starting to get an erection without much coaxing.

10 minutes It's definitely working, stiff as a freaking plank.

20 minutes Took cock ring off, puttering around the house with a semi-painful erection.

Did a 10 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session pumping to full pressure which was quite painful but didn't cause water retention

The dose wasn't quite enough so I had to keep pulling it to stay rock hard but it lasted 3 hours. Could have lasted longer but I was ready for a break.

I must confess I also ejaculated twice and was able to stay hard. Watched a lot of adult entertainment, hey it's Saturday. I'm going to avoid ejaculation as much as possible from now on but this was just an experiment, yeah that's the ticket.
 
Spent 4 hours in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] during work.

Came home, upped the dose to 7mcg and sat in front of the TV watched a little adult entertainment but no ejaculation. To maintain the erection I did some light erect stretches essentially tugging upward on it the whole time.
Still think the dose is low as it is not rock hard unless I play with it.

Will go for an even 10mcg next time
 
Checking in, very curious to see results
 
Where did you come up with this protocol? I ask because I just took my first Pge1 shot yesterday and plan to use it every other day.
 
Hey petersouth. Good thread bro. Im definitely keeping track of this thread. Hey petersouth and mistake. Where are you guys getting your PGE1 (caverject) drugs from? It would be awsome if I can find a legit source that doesn't require a prescription.
 
7/31

Nothing for today

Hurt so bad I had to skip today because my dick was actually sore like muscles are sore after a workout.

I can tell this will give girth gains, the length gains I am less sure about. I'll measure again at the end of August to see what the results are.

I have to tell you guys the erection hurts, like an intense ache. It's definitely doing something.
 
Hey man,

Just make sure you don't loose the ability to have an erection. I heard about this guy who took too many viagras, and his dick was on a permanent priapism until they had to cut it off or something.
 
sevenup;495201 said:
Hey man,

Just make sure you don't loose the ability to have an erection. I heard about this guy who took too many viagras, and his dick was on a permanent priapism until they had to cut it off or something.
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That would have been an erection lasting longer than 12 hours where tissue death becomes a massive risk. Most men make it to the hospital before these issues happen but I guess this poor guy missed the boat.
 
I have ED and have been injecting Trimix (includes PGE1 as one of the ingredients) about twice a week for about one year. I am quite sure I have not gained anything in length or girth as a result. I am concerned that you are using a 1" needle. As such, you are at risk of the needle passing through the CC and totally missing the target. The proper needle length is 5/16" to 1/2". I have also used a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] in combination with the injection and my experience is that the vacuum decreases the effectiveness of the injection.
 
sevenup;495201 said:
Hey man,

Just make sure you don't loose the ability to have an erection. I heard about this guy who took too many viagras, and his dick was on a permanent priapism until they had to cut it off or something.
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That would be the end of Mike Shlort.
 
Mistake;495092 said:
Where did you come up with this protocol? I ask because I just took my first Pge1 shot yesterday and plan to use it every other day.
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I got it from a bodybuilding forum from guys who use tons of other peptides for bodybuilding. One of them chimed in and said he had used it years ago and got great gains so I pieced the protocol together from what he did.
 
I can't wait until there is a general guide with logical protocol that has some meaty research and results. I have never tried these methods but I remain extremely curious to their effectiveness. Thanks to all who are doing such diligent work.
 
doublelongdaddy;495397 said:
I can't wait until there is a general guide with logical protocol that has some meaty research and results. I have never tried these methods but I remain extremely curious to their effectiveness. Thanks to all who are doing such diligent work.
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Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html (all laid out on one page, do not have to search through sections)

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opi...ficationDate=20050201&page=1&rotation=0&type= (more neatly laid out in sections, easier to read, harder to navigate)
 
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I forgot to mention but I did 500 wet jelqs in the last session.

8/1

I noticed things are looking visibly thicker so I took an erect girth measurement being careful to pull the tape snug. 1/8" improvement already.

No [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] today, had a hectic day, late morning felt like shit, deadlines at work so I skipped it.

Did my injection this time 8mcg and that was very effective. It lasted 4 hours.

Did 550 wet jelqs in very erect state.
 
8/2

I did nothing, came home with massive headache. Seem to notice a pattern here where hours of work makes me feel overtrained and stressed the next day. Also I'm not getting enough sleep due to staying up all night doing this. Need to work on time management.

Still, it's hard not to when you have nothing else to do during that time. Maybe I should sit and watch TV passively so I can do it again the next day or maybe I should keep up the intensity and try to improve my recovery. I'm also very busy and it's a little much to do every day but I'll try to get into ED next week and see if progress is faster.

I would really like to add hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches to the end of each session. They are counterproductive during the session but I think they would be effective as a finish if I can recover.
 
petersouth;495507 said:
8/2

I did nothing, came home with massive headache. Seem to notice a pattern here where hours of work makes me feel overtrained and stressed the next day. Also I'm not getting enough sleep due to staying up all night doing this. Need to work on time management.

Still, it's hard not to when you have nothing else to do during that time. Maybe I should sit and watch TV passively so I can do it again the next day or maybe I should keep up the intensity and try to improve my recovery. I'm also very busy and it's a little much to do every day but I'll try to get into ED next week and see if progress is faster.

I would really like to add hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches to the end of each session. They are counterproductive during the session but I think they would be effective as a finish if I can recover.
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Maybe you're going too hard at first. Maybe inject every other day, or every third day?
Either way, let me know if jelqing during the injection is helpful
What length work are you doing?
 
Hey petersouth. Congrats on the 1/8" gain in girth bro. With the PGE-1 induced erection is it an intense erection like when clamping. I can't imagine how being massively engorged or 4 hrs a day can't bring about gains. Keep it up bro.
 
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kingsnake;495584 said:
Hey petersouth. Congrats on the 1/8" gain in girth bro. With the PGE-1 induced erection is it an intense erection like when clamping. I can't imagine how being massively engorged or 4 hrs a day can't bring about gains. Keep it up bro.
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Thanks man, it's pretty awesome because I didn't really need to measure. I could see and feel the difference.

Not sure even what clamping is, have to look into that.

But yes the erection is very intense and when you get it really hard it HURTS in a strange way that has nothing to do with how hard it is. I mean I've had erections that were that hard but they don't feel like that, which is why I think there is something about the PGE1 that is causing breakdown of tissue over and above the erection itself.
 
petersouth;495656 said:
Thanks man, it's pretty awesome because I didn't really need to measure. I could see and feel the difference.

Not sure even what clamping is, have to look into that.

But yes the erection is very intense and when you get it really hard it HURTS in a strange way that has nothing to do with how hard it is. I mean I've had erections that were that hard but they don't feel like that, which is why I think there is something about the PGE1 that is causing breakdown of tissue over and above the erection itself.
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Try manual stretching after it goes down, when it's still in that hurting stage. I think that may be the best time to stretch. Then slap on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or wrap?
 
MikeShlort;495564 said:
Maybe you're going too hard at first. Maybe inject every other day, or every third day?
Either way, let me know if jelqing during the injection is helpful
What length work are you doing?
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I may be going too hard, I'll try to do two days in a row and take Sunday off. Then start back up next week and try to stick to the schedule.

For length I want to do [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/manual supersets during the day at work but my time management sucks staying up late doing this and then being late for work. So I need to work on that for next week.

Ideally my routine will be
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/Manual supersets 3x during work hours

Get home from work 3-4 hours PGE1
500-1000 wet jelqs during PGE1
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretches for length near end of session

I'll say this, jelqing is very desireable. That is my opinion.

I don't think someone could possibly not grow doing that.
 
MikeShlort;495658 said:
Try manual stretching after it goes down, when it's still in that hurting stage. I think that may be the best time to stretch. Then slap on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or wrap?
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I've tried to wrap but I end up not being able to sleep with it on. Trouble is I tend to finish late at night.

Tissue is very tough afterward, could possibly stretch. Stretching just prior to the session may be good as well.

It should be wrapped though because it does turtle quite a bit, I just can't seem to do it and get any sleep and that affects the next day.
 
petersouth;495661 said:
I may be going too hard, I'll try to do two days in a row and take Sunday off. Then start back up next week and try to stick to the schedule.

For length I want to do [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/manual supersets during the day at work but my time management sucks staying up late doing this and then being late for work. So I need to work on that for next week.

Ideally my routine will be
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/Manual supersets 3x during work hours

Get home from work 3-4 hours PGE1
500-1000 wet jelqs during PGE1
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hardcore stretches for length near end of session

I'll say this, jelqing is very desireable. That is my opinion.

I don't think someone could possibly not grow doing that.
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Well measure yourself now and then a month from now and tell me how this routine has gained because I am very interested in your approach and I may want to start this myself. You can tell me your experiences of what worked and I can try some things as well and hopefully find things that help and we can help each other and everyone here. There are a million ways to go about Penis Enlargement so it's great that you're doing something like this to experiment for us all.
 
petersouth;495662 said:
I've tried to wrap but I end up not being able to sleep with it on. Trouble is I tend to finish late at night.

Tissue is very tough afterward, could possibly stretch. Stretching just prior to the session may be good as well.

It should be wrapped though because it does turtle quite a bit, I just can't seem to do it and get any sleep and that affects the next day.
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Try a divosuit man. I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words]'s wrap is too tight - I tried it and it seemed to leave an impression on my skin. It's kinda like the discoloration from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] - cuts off circulation or something. I'm going to buy a divosuit and hopefully it will be loose enough to not cause the circulation loss and discoloration but tight enough to stop it from turtling. I get the turtle bad too. My penis can go from long and loose to tight and turtled in an instant and it fluctuates through the day, really pisses me off.
i'm going to try primrose oil (I think this is what it's called) King snake suggested it to keep that flaccid pump.
 
MikeShlort;495665 said:
Try a divosuit man. I think the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words]'s wrap is too tight - I tried it and it seemed to leave an impression on my skin. It's kinda like the discoloration from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] - cuts off circulation or something. I'm going to buy a divosuit and hopefully it will be loose enough to not cause the circulation loss and discoloration but tight enough to stop it from turtling. I get the turtle bad too. My penis can go from long and loose to tight and turtled in an instant and it fluctuates through the day, really pisses me off.
i'm going to try primrose oil (I think this is what it's called) King snake suggested it to keep that flaccid pump.
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I was thinking that. I think divosuit is made from spandex or some kind of smooth material, that would help.
 
petersouth;495669 said:
I was thinking that. I think divosuit is made from spandex or some kind of smooth material, that would help.
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One thing about wearing it at night though - I've read and been told that night time erections are key to gaining - especially when taking PGE1, as it makes your night time erections stronger. So you may not want to wrap/extend/divosuit at night because it could be stopping you from getting an erection, thus gaining.

Check out this patent. It's from a doctor who specialized in the injections. It gives all the theory, it's just a lot of medical data and drug names to sift through. The gist of it is the penis expands from the injections, causing the long erections and growth, which slowly in time stretches the dorsal tendon, causing length gain, and causes the girth to grow by being engorged for so long, and in turn the injections help night time erections which promote growth as well. I believe the erections promote healthy blood flow as well, which is good for gaining.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2486714/summary.html
 
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. I think [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
 
petersouth;495687 said:
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. I think [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
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Wow, 3.5 hours is mostly the longest I have ever gone. Does it take any effort to keep the erection?
 
petersouth;495687 said:
8/3/12

8mcg PGE1 injected into left side, erection lasted 3.5 hours. Did erect stretches most of the time pulling hard and maintained a very hard erection pulling and kegeling.

At the 3 hour mark I got in the shower still erect, attached the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and did 3 sets of erect stretches in every direction at relatively low pressure. Only at the end did I get up to what I usually start with. It was incredibly painful and took almost nothing for me to feel an intense burning stretch. I had to do very short sets stopping the pressure completely after almost every stretch.

Got out of the shower and dried off. Measured girth. 5.5 flaccid after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. I think [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in addition to good inner penis stretching makes a good boner killer, that's why I put it at the end. Minimal water retention. I will do these instead of jelqs since I have a hard time gaining length.
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So the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] help bring down the erection?
 
doublelongdaddy;495732 said:
Wow, 3.5 hours is mostly the longest I have ever gone. Does it take any effort to keep the erection?
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Not much, once you get it going good it's tough to lose it.

If I don't touch it for 5 minutes and just walk around picking things up it will go down to 75% or so.
 
8/7

Finally got up the nerve to do another injection. Tried on Saturday and I just couldn't make myself do it.

So after a chest workout at the gym I shot some IGF-1 DES into my pec and proceeded to my 8mcg shot.

Well it didn't do squat, it has that familiar soreness but I'm not getting hard. I think it may be the IGF-1 because I feel a bit hypoglycemic. Hopefully another half hour passes after eating some simple carbs it will get hard, otherwise I'll have to inject again. I may have missed the CC so I want to be sure of the cause before I inject again.

On a positive note I did do 1 set of manual stretching and wore the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 10 hours at a low tension today. I'm going to try to wear it the whole day from now on with as many manual sets as I can.
 
8/7 continued...

Managed to do about 2 hour on and off. I'm not really sure what happened but in the end I said fuck it no way I'm sticking that needle back in my dick at 1 in the morning.

If there is a lesson here, don't use PGE1 after you shoot IGF-1 systemic and don't miss the CC. Pretty sure I missed the CC with part of it.
 
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great reports. thank you.

I think when everything inside you says no at certain times to the injection then you should wait another day. Its probably a sign.
 
petersouth;496092 said:
8/7 continued...

Managed to do about 2 hour on and off. I'm not really sure what happened but in the end I said fuck it no way I'm sticking that needle back in my dick at 1 in the morning.

If there is a lesson here, don't use PGE1 after you shoot IGF-1 systemic and don't miss the CC. Pretty sure I missed the CC with part of it.
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Did it cause any problems missing the CC?
 
doublelongdaddy;496126 said:
Did it cause any problems missing the CC?
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No it was ok, I mean it's always nerve racking and painful sticking a needle there on the best day but there was no pain beyond the usual.

There were 3 factors now that could have caused it.

1. The IGF-1 DES that I shot right after my workout. I normally work out in the morning so I shoot the IGF then, that's why this didn't come up before. IGF can make blood sugar go way low, you have to take a carbs with it. That may have blocked the PGE1 from working.
2. Partially missed the CC although I don't know why that would be the case, I did it the same as always. I know at least some did make it in there.
3. I remembered the syringe I used was left over from Saturday. I loaded up the needle and tried to shoot but I couldn't make myself do it. I set the syringe aside with the cap back on and used that for yesterday's injection. Perhaps sitting in the syringe in the fridge instead of the bottle caused it to decompose and lose potency.
 
8/7/12

Sorry last session should have been 8/6/12, got confused because I did it after midnight so this is two days in a row even though the last one was shit.

I am up to one tick shy of 5.25" erect girth now, around 5 flaccid. That is close to .25" gain in a little over a week. If this keeps up I will need a new base for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words], I noticed today it was getting hard to stuff my salami through that little hole.

Logged 8 hours on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work, added a couple small bars to increase tension.

Injected 9mcg and it's working like it's supposed to again, will update in another 4 hours or so.
 
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petersouth;496241 said:
No it was ok, I mean it's always nerve racking and painful sticking a needle there on the best day but there was no pain beyond the usual.

There were 3 factors now that could have caused it.

1. The IGF-1 DES that I shot right after my workout. I normally work out in the morning so I shoot the IGF then, that's why this didn't come up before. IGF can make blood sugar go way low, you have to take a carbs with it. That may have blocked the PGE1 from working.
2. Partially missed the CC although I don't know why that would be the case, I did it the same as always. I know at least some did make it in there.
3. I remembered the syringe I used was left over from Saturday. I loaded up the needle and tried to shoot but I couldn't make myself do it. I set the syringe aside with the cap back on and used that for yesterday's injection. Perhaps sitting in the syringe in the fridge instead of the bottle caused it to decompose and lose potency.
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I think 3 is probably the reason.
Seems to me those bottles the PGE1 is in is air tight.
 
Where did u find the the 100mcg/ml pge-1? I'd appreciate it if u could give me your source. I'm stuck with caverject 20 only, which is both quite expensive and very hard to find where i am.

Good work btw, keep it up.
 
8/7 continued...

Erection lasted 4.5 hours

700 wet jelqs

3 sets of erect hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches at the end killed it
 
petersouth;496280 said:
8/7 continued...

Erection lasted 4.5 hours

700 wet jelqs

3 sets of erect hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches at the end killed it
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You are hardcore! Good job.
 
Hey petersouth,
so you read Roneille's thread?
He was mentioning that he had to add other chemicals to his injection to get a 100% erection.
Do you find that the PGE1 alone gets you to 100%?
I have started them as well, and so far I have had two 2hour sessions at about 85%-90%. I am wondering, when you take the 4 hour dose, does it get you to 100%, and how much of that 4 hours are you at 100%?

Thanks a lot for oyur help
 
MikeShlort;496584 said:
Hey petersouth,
so you read Roneille's thread?
He was mentioning that he had to add other chemicals to his injection to get a 100% erection.
Do you find that the PGE1 alone gets you to 100%?
I have started them as well, and so far I have had two 2hour sessions at about 85%-90%. I am wondering, when you take the 4 hour dose, does it get you to 100%, and how much of that 4 hours are you at 100%?

Thanks a lot for oyur help
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No I don't need anything else, I wouldn't worry about that yet. The only reason he needs so many other things is his tolerance is high. I read that he shot like 300mcg and didn't stay hard more than a couple hours, normal people should not have those problems.

I don't really have a 4 hour dose I just kept raising until I got the desired effect, in the beginning with lower doses I was fluffing a lot. Now at this dose I don't have to do much at all to stay at 100% but it will occasionally go down a little.

At 9mcg I stay close to 100% for 4 hours but someone else might need 12 or 7.

Bear in mind the dose you need will keep increasing with time and everyone is different.
 
8/8

Only did [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] for an hour at work. I got kind of intimidated to use it since people can obviously tell something is there. To be fair I think it has made the ladies notice me more.

Other than that I did like half a set of manual stretches. Meh
 
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