thats a real thing getting to 9 will be one of our biggest achievements in PE,is not impossible but we are going to need some more time my friend,n i know we can get there i know you can i know i can.because we want it we want to get fucking MASSIVE,i know we can.


im going to continue whit my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] sessions..n add the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] hope i can..there are so many goals i want to achieve :cool:
 
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shortdick;679705 said:
better have a mini session of erect stretchings. right now

I didn't do my erect stretches today. I've missed it about 3 times ever since I started this new training last week.
 
i had a 10+mins session in the morning n had another session 15mins a while ago.going to close the night whit my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] session.:)
 
I'm done for today, I used my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for only 45 minutes because I was interrupted during my second 30 minutes session so I stopped at the 15th minute. I wore the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 10 hours. Last night I was unable to sleep with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I will try again tonight though. Practice they say makes perfect. Monster cock here I come.
 
huge-girth;679781 said:
I'm done for today, I used my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for only 45 minutes because I was interrupted during my second 30 minutes session so I stopped at the 15th minute. I wore the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 10 hours. Last night I was unable to sleep with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I will try again tonight though. Practice they say makes perfect. Monster cock here I come.

Awesome you got through the night without issue! Just be vigilant until you have perfected it. This is the beauty of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], wearing while sleeping...I wish the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] was here when I started!
 
huge-girth;679781 said:
I'm done for today, I used my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for only 45 minutes because I was interrupted during my second 30 minutes session so I stopped at the 15th minute. I wore the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 10 hours. Last night I was unable to sleep with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I will try again tonight though. Practice they say makes perfect. Monster cock here I come.

Great man, I remember I could not sleep with my PF for about 2-3 days until I was finally able to.
4th day I could sleep about 3hrs with it. Now I usually do 4-8 depends on the erections during the night or work.

In a few days you will be able to get 18+ hrs [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]/daily, Im sure of it man !
 
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I'm done with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for today. I did my normal 1 hour bundles. I'm now wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] from 10am morning time till 10pm night time but I take it off for about 50 mins to do my second [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length master[/words] session. So normally I do log about 11 hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but from today, I will be wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] till 11pm which will be 12 hours daily and then I will try once again to sleep with it at night time. Last night I tried sleeping with it but I woke up after 2 hours. I want to do all I can to make sure that I log 15 hours daily in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] so I can stop length work by March 29th. I want to log 1500 hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] from now till March 29th. The war is on.
 
That's a good idea to use two sessions per day like the ones you have, and I do something similar.
 
Yep, exactly ! I also do two 30-40mins separate [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] sessions a day. Gotta keep the penis stretched all the time.
Huge gains incoming.
 
Whenever I have a free spot im always thinking about doing some(even just a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]), but I feel my flaccid around to make sure im all jelly, and no turtle (which could be from overtraining). If I do too much in one day I actually start to hurt in my eq/expansion/flaccid
 
I'm done for today. 1 hour bundles and I'm still wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] as usual. I no longer bother to wear it at night. 13 hours daily is enough.
 
Kinda sad to hear you give up on sleeping with PF man. Having extra 6-8 PF/day is crazy good, that can be 240 hours/month just while sleeping.
What made you re-think the sleeping with PF ?
 
BigBeardBig;680042 said:
Kinda sad to hear you give up on sleeping with PF man. Having extra 6-8 PF/day is crazy good, that can be 240 hours/month just while sleeping.
What made you re-think the sleeping with PF ?

I couldn't do the modification you talked about because I don't want to spoil any part of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. And besides, 8 X 7+ is my main goal therefore, there is no need to sleep with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I'm currently 7.5 inches and in 3 months I can easily get to 8 inches with this current routine. No need to stress myself over it anymore. Consistency is what matters the most.
 
huge-girth;680047 said:
I couldn't do the modification you talked about because I don't want to spoil any part of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. And besides, 8 X 7+ is my main goal therefore, there is no need to sleep with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I'm currently 7.5 inches and in 3 months I can easily get to 8 inches with this current routine. No need to stress myself over it anymore. Consistency is what matters the most.

Hey bro, Im sorry my explanation in english wasnt clear enough, but the mod I did doesnt spoily any part of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], you just zip/unzip the white circle you put around your penis.
There is nothing to be spoiled or to be broken on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] itself. Just zip/unzip.
 
BigBeardBig;680056 said:
Hey bro, Im sorry my explanation in english wasnt clear enough, but the mod I did doesnt spoily any part of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], you just zip/unzip the white circle you put around your penis.
There is nothing to be spoiled or to be broken on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] itself. Just zip/unzip.

I understood your explanation correctly. I just feel my daily 12 to 13 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] use is enough coupled with the fact that I also use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for 1 hour daily. I think I'm fine with this routine, and if I can gain even half inch in the next 3 months I will be 100% satisfied and quit length work for good. Thanks for the advice bro.
 
huge-girth;680066 said:
I understood your explanation correctly. I just feel my daily 12 to 13 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] use is enough coupled with the fact that I also use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] for 1 hour daily. I think I'm fine with this routine, and if I can gain even half inch in the next 3 months I will be 100% satisfied and quit length work for good. Thanks for the advice bro.

Definitely a solid length routine and a 1/2", a snap!
 
Too busy today, did only 30 mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles and 2 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].
 
huge-girth;680223 said:
Too busy today, did only 30 mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles and 2 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].

Hey bro, based on your signature you are 7.5 inches length flaccid, and also 7.5 inches erect ? No change in size flaccid/erect ?
 
I have a bent penis. It is facing upward and also bent to the right side. If I measure with a ruler I can see 7.2 inches but know that a ruler is not ideal to measure a bent penis. I need to use a tape to measure and I know I'm longer than 7.2 inches.
 
I believe its the same. I will be measuring by 29th of March. I don't really care about my flaccid size. My erect size is all that matters to me.
 
I'm done with my bundled stretches for today, I did my 1 hour bundles and I'm still wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] until my bed time. I want to start doing cardio from tomorrow and I will also reduce my food intake. I also need to look for the fat pad exercise dld told me about.
 
huge-girth;680289 said:
I believe its the same. I will be measuring by 29th of March. I don't really care about my flaccid size. My erect size is all that matters to me.

yeah but dont you think that a nice flaccid can be a good thing to have too:cool:
 
Getting a nice flaccid will be a good thing. It all boils down to getting rid of the fat pad too. I'm done with today's bundled stretches. I'm still wearing my pf. I'm thinking if I should stop updating my progress log daily.
 
No way man, keep us updated daily. I find it a great way to no get off the track and you goals.
Pretty much only because I read your thread daily I started wear my PF more often throughtout the day, you huge-girth motivated me to do so.
 
I'm motivated to continue updating my log then. Another thing I have in mind is if I should just dedicate the whole of 2016 to length work and get to 9 inches bone pressed.

I don't know why that 9 inches penis keeps disturbing my mind even when I'm a hard gainer in length. Girth on the other hand is very easy for me. I'm really confuse. I know a lot of women will love it if I have a 9 X 7+ penis.

Now that shortdick has won the grand prize, he has all the required per tools to join me and bigbeardbig is also running this race with us. But I see you are training girth too. I wish I can start train girth as well. I like to concentrate on one exercise at a time though. Let March 29th come and by then I will fully decide what my length goal will be. Girth keeps calling me.
 
What is your philosophy behind only concentraiting on either length or girth and not both together ?
DId you do it in the past and it did not work for you ? Id like to read more about it. me personally if Im still gaining both I dont see reason to do only length or just only girth.
 
I don't have the ability to concentrate and do both exercises on same day. But I might try it once again maybe in the coming week or so. But if I focus on girth only, I will gain faster because I intend doing 2 sessions per day.
 
I've just thrown my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] away because the condom sleeve is bad and my auto sleeves is not tight. All I have now is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. I'm thinking of starting girth work along with constant [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] stretches. I'm frustrated already. This might just be the end of length work for me.

Tomorrow, I will try a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session for 2 days and see how it feels.
 
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Hey man there are plenty of stuff you can buy on ebay that will server you well. It would be shame not to use you PF after this.
ALtho you can never go wrong with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] :D
 
The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is bad for me, no form of wrapping helps with blood circulation. I've decided to go with 1 hour bundled stretches and a 1 hour [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session daily. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] remains the best length tool out there. I wish you know how much I've spent on pe tools since 2008, you will pity me. This year, I've vowed to work on girth and the only way for me to stick to my original 9 X 7+ goal is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] combo.
 
Yea I know about the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] issue and it is very easy to make [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] 10/10 tool if you got with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] mod.
Here is the mod that solves the circulation issues once and for all

You can see pics there how exactly it will help you with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. The circulation problem is completely gone and guys are able to go as much as 4hours without taking it off, absolutely no circulation problem.
Even for bathroom breaks, it takes like 10-15 secs to take in on/off.
 
My mind is made up now, I won't spend a dime anymore for a length device. The only thing I can buy in the nearest future is cockring and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X50[/words]. I can still get to 9 inches with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles from now till December. Its all a matter of consistency. Henceforth, its length and girth together. My mind has been made up.
 
No problem bro, just trying to help :)
As said, there is tons of cheap stuff on ebay that can easily solve your PF problem. I wouldnt throw such a big investment, as PF must have been, away.

Length and girth together is definately what I would do and have always done.
 
BigBeardBig;680466 said:
No problem bro, just trying to help :)
As said, there is tons of cheap stuff on ebay that can easily solve your PF problem. I wouldnt throw such a big investment, as PF must have been, away.

Length and girth together is definately what I would do and have always done.

The PF is crap as far as I'm concern. It has spare parts problem whereas the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] doesn't need any replacement, you just buy it and use it for eternity. PE is all about using devices that you are addicted to. My addiction is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. I know you were only trying to help and I'd thank you for that. I've moved on. I've gained half inch in length doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles for 3 months last year. I can gain 1.5 inches in length with the same routine because with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] bundles, it's impossible to hit a plateau. From Monday, I will start length and girth training together.
 
Good that you made up your mind.
Hit up the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] in the morning followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], then throw on a cock ring and just keep manual stretching throughout the day. Then hit it again at night if you can. That way your doing length the most but you'll still gain girth since it's easy for you to. Split with stretching and jelqing. Best of both worlds. That will be my routine in the coming months.
I'll be in your shoes soon as well. The PF will be gone and just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with stretches throughout the day. The constant on and off of the PF wears you down after so long. It tears and stretches so easily. Get yourself a good routine and tear shit up brother. I'm looking forward to hear about your gains.
 
runningignus;680468 said:
Good that you made up your mind.
Hit up the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] in the morning followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], then throw on a cock ring and just keep manual stretching throughout the day. Then hit it again at night if you can. That way your doing length the most but you'll still gain girth since it's easy for you to. Split with stretching and jelqing. Best of both worlds. That will be my routine in the coming months.
I'll be in your shoes soon as well. The PF will be gone and just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] with stretches throughout the day. The constant on and off of the PF wears you down after so long. It tears and stretches so easily. Get yourself a good routine and tear shit up brother. I'm looking forward to hear about your gains.

Thanks so much for this post bro, I thought I was the only one who knows the flaws of the PF. It's crap. I will start this routine you suggested above. I will do jelqs and slow squash jelqs together. This is a solid routine. Two girth sessions daily will give me insane expansion/gains. Thanks so much for the suggestion. Let me do the bundled stretches before girth work as DLD keeps talking about. I will start doing this routine from Monday.
 
I dont think any device is perfect and all cna be used to gain. ven just parts (for example Supras ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] where he used the head of PF only) etc. I wouldnt go that far calling PF crap.
It has its place, even if you would use it only for sleep it can add you 8hrs of enolgated state.

runningignus: As said above, if you get frustrated with PF on/off why dont just use it at night ? I can go whole 8hrs without waking up and use the PF perfect, taking it on just once and off after 8hrs.

huge-girth: After investing almost 300 dollars I wouldnt just throw the device to trash, thats all. It can do you amazingly well for elongated healing at least.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] followed by [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 2x a day sounds perfect, I might do the same + PF during sleep and Il be golden.
 
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No, I'm not trashing the PF. I've had it long enough to know any flaws and upgrades it needs. I get more than 15 hours a day, including sleeping with it on, so I'm happy with it. The frustration is in the continuous on/off. Months of the same thing is what kills me. I'll get my length and then have no need to keep wearing it, might just keep it for sleeping but it'll be bothersome with me gaining girth. I'll figure out what I want soon enough. It will be great for my psyche to keep it off. That's all. I've been trying to consider saving it for my son. Who knows. It definitely has its place in PE. I know that I won't be able to wear it once I get my flaccid girth up more.
 
I'm done with my 1 hour bundled stretches for today. Tomorrow night I will start my girth session. The update for tomorrow will be coming late because I will have to finish my girth session at midnight first.
 
huge-girth;680598 said:
I'm done with my 1 hour bundled stretches for today. Tomorrow night I will start my girth session. The update for tomorrow will be coming late because I will have to finish my girth session at midnight first.

yeah i think i need to have girth session every other day n take things easy cause i wouldnt be able to have them both everyday:P
 
I want to see if I can do girth and length together even if I'm able to do only one 30mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session daily together with two girth session, I will be satisfied. I just need 1 inch in length this year and 1.5 inches in girth.
 
I'm done with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] session for today, it only lasted for 50mins due to interruption. I started doing kegel yesterday and masturbated 4 times because I was too horny. My erection is so poor today, I will smoke marijuana tonight and see if it will help the Viagra for my first girth session.
 
Shame, Shame, shame brother lol.
Can't wait until March, I hope I get some great gains on my birthday the 27th, and then I'll be looking for your new gains after that. Also can't wait until my viagra gets here.
 
runningignus;680814 said:
Shame, Shame, shame brother lol.
Can't wait until March, I hope I get some great gains on my birthday the 27th, and then I'll be looking for your new gains after that. Also can't wait until my viagra gets here.

I'm happy about starting girth work.
 
huge-girth;680800 said:
I will smoke marijuana tonight and see if it will help the Viagra for my first girth session.

Of course that will work! :) I whacked 4 times a couple days ago, I was horny for some reason. The next day I was pretty sore and eq was low so I popped a Viagra and smoked my pipe and got a raging hard on!
 
doublelongdaddy;680825 said:
Of course that will work! :) I whacked 4 times a couple days ago, I was horny for some reason. The next day I was pretty sore and eq was low so I popped a Viagra and smoked my pipe and got a raging hard on!

It worked. I just finished my girth session. I pumped for 5 mins and then I did 3 reps of 1 mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]slow squash jelq[/words]. As written below:

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

5 Minutes Pumping
3 reps of 1 minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words]

I had very good expansion, right under the glans 6 inches, mid girth 6.5 inches and base girth 7 inches. This is my first girth session. I will start doing two girth sessions from tomorrow. I will take off the cockring in an hour time before going to bed.
 
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