Hangoff, Summer 07

ligament damage. I have found a new degree in this concept lately. I have said this but I am looking back at all my training as pre and post BIB. Post BIB has all been about getting used to the strain and not getting injured as I add weight.

The last few days I have felt a new strain and am understanding more what ligament damage is. I feel like I have extremely tough ligaments and by using 17 pounds consistently over the last several days BTC have opened a new degree of potential. I could be wrong but this is what I feel.
 
I have and have tried to read as many of his posts as possible. Thanks for sharing though. One of the things that kept me focused was his ideas on how at some point you will release new crinullations (spelling) and they come in stages. I just seemed to have to use a higher weight than many people did for the initial release.
 
it is funny you say that. I think people who take to hanging have some similar qualities. Probably most of us are fairly compulsive, can be alone and like it, somewhat tough physically... i am sure there are some more.

I have had some thoughts about BIB and he is somewhat of a mytholigical figure to me in my Penis Enlargement quest. There was Thor and his Hammer. And there is Bib and his Hanger.

I even have a few sayings about the bib that cross my mind. For example when a friend calls and I am hanging, and they ask "what are you up to?" I want badly to say "I am just hangin with BIB".

And there is a rap type song that the hook says "I love my chick" over and over. I have modified that to "I love my BIB."

Like a warrior carries their sword and shield, I am finding the same relationship to my BIB. My penis length for the time being is going to live or die with BIB by its side.
 
So I went heavy and often tonight. ow. I have a few thoughts I wanted to share. Lately I have found by spending about 2 very heavy and tough sessions (of course this if all relative) I can do a standard routine the rest of the week. I try to spend a few sessions of constant bombardment where the rest is short and the weights are heavy to thrash my ligs and tunica as best I can.

I have found vodka to help in some of these sessions as it numbs the pain. No - i am not pushing to the point of injury but yes - heavy ligament damage is occurring.

If for example I do 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minutes at 17.5 pounds on the BIB with 10 min rest... I find severe soreness. I want to achieve this in the right capacity. 2 sets is not enough only because my penis is not conditioned to bear more weight. But if I am smart and take care of the boy I know... The ligs will follow. So I write this in soreness and a degree of satisfaction that the job for tonight has been done. And tomorrow is a new day.

Keep pulling, hangin, pumping... or whatever it takes
 
airshy said:
So I went heavy and often tonight. ow. I have a few thoughts I wanted to share. Lately I have found by spending about 2 very heavy and tough sessions (of course this if all relative) I can do a standard routine the rest of the week. I try to spend a few sessions of constant bombardment where the rest is short and the weights are heavy to thrash my ligs and tunica as best I can.

I have found vodka to help in some of these sessions as it numbs the pain. No - i am not pushing to the point of injury but yes - heavy ligament damage is occurring.

If for example I do 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minutes at 17.5 pounds on the BIB with 10 min rest... I find severe soreness. I want to achieve this in the right capacity. 2 sets is not enough only because my penis is not conditioned to bear more weight. But if I am smart and take care of the boy I know... The ligs will follow. So I write this in soreness and a degree of satisfaction that the job for tonight has been done. And tomorrow is a new day.

Keep pulling, hangin, pumping... or whatever it takes
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WOW, I think I almost got a little teary eyed reading this. It sounds like finally, there's another guy out there hanging with the BIB, and learning how to do so properly. I'd also suggest posting on BIB's forum. He responds. Also, if you have questions about hanging in general...even though it may take time send him an email: [email protected]
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When you get answers to your questions, share them here for the benefit of others. Preferably in new posts.
 
SWM I really appreciate that and yes I am reading and trying. I have always thought it is best while learning to go to the people who have had the most success result wise and do my best to copy them in my own capacity.

Hopefully all of us hanging and working for results right now will slowly but surely see gains. I am sure we would take fast gains too!

For now, i am hurting. I can barely hang comfortably but still did so at lighter weights. One thing I may be missing in the posts on hanging is the degree of toughness it takes to create the necessary damage. Especially when one has tight ligaments like myself. Ultimately I do not think that is a negative, it requires more pushing to break them up when is not comfortable in any fashion.

I am looking forward to the next 30 days of this and if i see consistent gains I will be more than happy to share what I am learning.

Thanks again for piping in here.
 
You may already be aware of this, but soreness unlike with skeletal muscle....in the penis when pertaining to Penis Enlargement, is not an indicator that time off is needed. It is in fact an indicator that you are doing things properly. As long as your erections are not suffering in quality, and you are not experiencing PAIN, keep at it. Take as little time off....maybe a day or two a week as possible.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
You may already be aware of this, but soreness unlike with skeletal muscle....in the penis when pertaining to Penis Enlargement, is not an indicator that time off is needed. It is in fact an indicator that you are doing things properly. As long as your erections are not suffering in quality, and you are not experiencing PAIN, keep at it. Take as little time off....maybe a day or two a week as possible.
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Have you been following my fatigue status lately? Was wondering if you had ever experienced something like it.
 
I have yet to take a day off - only lighter days so far. And maybe only a few sets at once instead of 2 - 3 throughout the day. I am having slight swelling in the left ligament? (I still dont know what it is) on the base of my shaft (diagramed above). I have done consistent clamping and it may be from that but I am just not sure. It feels like something stretching and a little knotted in my penis - and It will loosen up after a set of hanging. I do not think it is a Tvein but I just don't know, and it does not create pain. There is only tightness.
 
airshy said:
I have yet to take a day off - only lighter days so far. And maybe only a few sets at once instead of 2 - 3 throughout the day. I am having slight swelling in the left ligament? (I still dont know what it is) on the base of my shaft (diagramed above). I have done consistent clamping and it may be from that but I am just not sure. It feels like something stretching and a little knotted in my penis - and It will loosen up after a set of hanging. I do not think it is a Tvein but I just don't know, and it does not create pain. There is only tightness.
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Not sure on that one. Have you asked BIB?
 
Right on, the bib starter is the way to go....have u gotten any tips on how to wrap? Also, I have taken a few days off by accident cuz a friend past away. Back on track today though, off hangin rofl
 
alwaystrying said:
Right on, the bib starter is the way to go....have u gotten any tips on how to wrap? Also, I have taken a few days off by accident cuz a friend past away. Back on track today though, off hangin rofl
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Sorry to hear about your friend.

Insofar as wrapping is concerned, I've thus far tried two techniques: (1) wrapping with the staticwrap supplied with the staticstretcher, and (2) just using about a 14" long strip of 3" wide [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I prefer the latter. Essentially I am using the wrapping technique propounded by stillwantmore - it is indeed very simple, and quite effective.
The Bib is an excellent and sturdy piece of Penis Enlargement equipment. It's really unfortunate that I didn't start with it instead of the other hangers I have cycled through. The Bib is undoubtedly where it is at - the vets recommend it for a reason. I did 8lbs with it today, yet, because I didn't reach the fatigue level I wanted with it, I will hang 10lbs tomorrow. My plan is to do something like this: Hang 6 consecutive sets SD at some fatigue-inducing weight. My secondary angle will be SO with a rice-sock. Obviously, between each set I will be dry jelqing as I feel that this is an imperative. I'm still experimenting with the various settings trying to get the correct gap set at both the bottom and the top of the hanger. However, currently, using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap, I have the adjustment nuts at the bottom of the hanger about .3" or so out, almost exactly the out-of-the-box settings. With this arrangement I can close the top of the hanger very tightly and the hanger itself does not slip, nor does it ride too heavily on the area just behind the top part of the glans. If anyone has any questions are recommendations, please state them.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
Yes, you can definitely see the ingenuity that went into that hanger! How are you liking it so far jqsderrida?
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As I've said, my initial impressions of it are very positive. And, to boot, Bib has the best customer service I have ever experienced - ever! I will probably write an in-depth review of the Bib and of my deglitching efforts with it so as to help people new to the device - when I get a little more time.
 
I wrap with a similar piece - a 20 inch 2.5 inch theraband only.

And because I pump I constantly adjust the settings which is a pain but oh well.

I like to see you doing so many sets at once. That is a shortcut to hit lig fatigue when your penis cannot handle much more weight on the BIB from what I have experienced. I also notice what different areas sd and btc hit more than ever.

I am currently maxing out at 10 pounds for sets (max is 20 pounds for 10 min) as I am thrashed. I am going to do my best to stay in this state.

Let us know what kind of damage you were able to create.

Maybe we should go to BIB's site to see if anyone would like to be a part of this hangoff? They would be more than welcome...

We could even use the good old recruiting line "we are looking for a few good hangers".
 
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I would shoot Bib an email first to see if he wouldn't mind us posting something like that. Although I'm pretty sure he wouldn't care, it would be best just to see.

I don't really feel much stress from the sets I did today. Tomorrow, however, I plan to do much more: 10lbs in lieu of 8lbs and, as I have mentioned, 6 sets of SD and 3 or so sets of SO with the rice-sock. I should probably post this routine-template at Bib's to see what feedback he can give on it.
 
Yes I just started posting there on BIB's site as well. Let us know what he says.

Hey for the hangoff I think we should come up with a few cheesy quotes we like. They can be stolen or homeade.

"If you ain't training, you ain't gaining. Train hard."
 
jqsderrida said:
Sorry to hear about your friend.

Insofar as wrapping is concerned, I've thus far tried two techniques: (1) wrapping with the staticwrap supplied with the staticstretcher, and (2) just using about a 14" long strip of 3" wide [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. I prefer the latter. Essentially I am using the wrapping technique propounded by stillwantmore - it is indeed very simple, and quite effective.
The Bib is an excellent and sturdy piece of Penis Enlargement equipment. It's really unfortunate that I didn't start with it instead of the other hangers I have cycled through. The Bib is undoubtedly where it is at - the vets recommend it for a reason. I did 8lbs with it today, yet, because I didn't reach the fatigue level I wanted with it, I will hang 10lbs tomorrow. My plan is to do something like this: Hang 6 consecutive sets SD at some fatigue-inducing weight. My secondary angle will be SO with a rice-sock. Obviously, between each set I will be dry jelqing as I feel that this is an imperative. I'm still experimenting with the various settings trying to get the correct gap set at both the bottom and the top of the hanger. However, currently, using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap, I have the adjustment nuts at the bottom of the hanger about .3" or so out, almost exactly the out-of-the-box settings. With this arrangement I can close the top of the hanger very tightly and the hanger itself does not slip, nor does it ride too heavily on the area just behind the top part of the glans. If anyone has any questions are recommendations, please state them.
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This actually sounds very good. Something else I did due to hanging an average of 12 (yep, 4 hours total) sets a day, when I was hanging; I would stay wrapped. This kept me from having to unwrap/rewrap. Figured this out pretty early on. It's especially a good idea when using the 'Ace' wrap. That stuff starts to compress after a couple sets. In other words, after your first couple sets, you will probably find yourself tightening your hanger (top wing nut of course) a little more than the first set or two. My hanger would always start out feeling a little 'too' tight, then after the first couple sets, I would have to snug it down a little more than when I started.
 
Just wanting to check in to see how everyone is progressing. Now that the hangoff is underway perhaps this is a prime time to solicit everyone's routine and the devices they are using.

The routine that I have concretized is as follows:

6 sets of SD at fatigue-inducing weight such that in-between each set (which are all performed CONSECUTIVELY) I do about 5-10 minutes of dry jelqing. Additionally there is no more than 10-12 minutes of rest between each set.

3 sets of SO with a rice-sock at a fatigue inducing weight such that in-between each set (which are all performed CONSECUTIVELY) I do about 5-10 minutes of dry jelqing. Additionally there is no more than 10-12 minutes of rest between each set.

I typically do the SD sets in the morning and the SO sets in the afternoon.

I am using the Bib Starter.
 
Good call for the progress update-

I am using the standard BIB.

I am focusing more on fatigue than types and ratio's of angles.

I am consistanly doing 180 minutes per day, which is 9 sets of 20 minutes. Once the SD and BTC are at my desired fatigue state I move to other angles. I consider these a bonus only, and use them to start chipping away at my tunica consistantly.
 
airshy said:
Good call for the progress update-

I am using the standard BIB.

I am focusing more on fatigue than types and ratio's of angles.

I am consistanly doing 180 minutes per day, which is 9 sets of 20 minutes. Once the SD and BTC are at my desired fatigue state I move to other angles. I consider these a bonus only, and use them to start chipping away at my tunica consistantly.
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Excellent stuff there! I focused only on fatigue as well. I got the best results from BTC, and occasionally SD, but my main focus was BTC, because it always gave me the most consistent pull, and fatigue....plus I could just sit there and read, or watch t.v. I think I went through 3 or 4 books a month sometimes ;)
 
Well, anyone else care to update? I'm up to 13lbs with the Bib. As with Airshy, the transition to the Bib has been less problematic than I had originally expected. I'm also ADSing for 3-4 hours following the completion of my routine.
 
jqsderrida said:
Well, anyone else care to update? I'm up to 13lbs with the Bib. As with Airshy, the transition to the Bib has been less problematic than I had originally expected. I'm also ADSing for 3-4 hours following the completion of my routine.
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I'm thinking a killer routine would be hanging at least 4 sets a day with the BIB + a few hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or ADH (light hanging tension with knee strap with the vacuum hanger). That'd be the best of both worlds!
 
I think that combo would rock as well. Especially if you got that up to 6-9 sets a day with the BIB.

jqsderrida - have you taken any new BPSFL measurements again?

Hey I am a little down ... I asked BIB some questions about hanging and I did not do a good job formatting them and got the below response:

Anyway - of all the people in the Penis Enlargement world I want to frustrate he would have to be at the bottom of the list haha. I am afraid to ask anything else there.
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airshy,

I have no time to move back and forth trying to read this. Why the hell did you make another freaking thread?

Put this thing in order, where the thread will wrap, and just give me the questions. I don't need the freaking chart. Much easier for you to just tell me how much you are hanging.

Please clean this mess up, and put it in a form I can read.

Bigger

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Congrats on the gain!!! I was wondering if the last month has paid off and it has indeed.

I would think more people would want to jump on the hangoff. We should maybe start accepting anyone who is pulling on their penis long enough every day to make a real gain haha.
 
airshy said:
Congrats on the gain!!! I was wondering if the last month has paid off and it has indeed.

I would think more people would want to jump on the hangoff. We should maybe start accepting anyone who is pulling on their penis long enough every day to make a real gain haha.
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As long as they're doing it with a hanger. The hangoff is for the hanging community at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
 
10inchadvantage said:
I'm thinking a killer routine would be hanging at least 4 sets a day with the BIB + a few hours of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or ADH (light hanging tension with knee strap with the vacuum hanger). That'd be the best of both worlds!
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Yeah it is a killer routine, throw in some manuals too and your good to go:s
 
jqsderrida said:
Whatyou talkin' bout Willis?
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That when you reach the point where you can actually hang all day long "till the end of time"you will have to hang your max weight again when you don't feel fatigue as much, just making conversation, I think it's pretty obvious that you would understand that you would need to do that.
 
You little bitch you always edit your posts after I respond to them so that my responses seem senseless. I'm gonna kick your British ass.
 
hey Pandora... how much weight are you up to on the BIB and how long did it take you to get there?

Also - what is your take on vaccum hangers if you don't mind me askin )
 
airshy said:
hey Pandora... how much weight are you up to on the BIB and how long did it take you to get there?

Also - what is your take on vaccum hangers if you don't mind me askin )
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Well I have hung 30 pounds maybe a little more, I think I'm gonna make it up to the big 40 in another 6 months or maybe more. It has taken me about 2 years or more to reach that weight.

I like the Max vac, I like vacuum hangers, 1 hour hangs are really nice and relaxing, it's a nice change. But I would not say one is better than the other, they work good together but you have to be careful.
 
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