10inchadvantage said:
Is it that crappy?

It's OK only for a very limited number of angles and weight-levels. That is, whenever I try to do something more with it than it was engineered to be capable of, it slips or in some fashion or the other fails and totally pisses me off, which, I suppose, can only be expected. I'm really just clamping, then, until the Bib arrives.
 
Not to knock Vacu-type hangers but I didn't have the patience for them either when I tried it. Bibs *NEVER* fall off, and if I take the time to do it the last thing I wanna do is worry about how good it's gripping/pulling if and when it even stayed on.
 
i figured i would pipe in with my to date thoughts on the bib vs. vacu-hanger. i have had the vacu for 2 months and the bib for only 2 weeks.

i do heavier weights (15lbs) on the bib for sets of 20 mins. this damages my ligaments for sure. i try to do 6 sets daily. In addition i try and do 2 x 60 minutes on the vacu-hanger daily. this too damages my ligs severely.

so i am sore and have been for a few weeks. my ligs were like iron and it took me getting used to the hangers before i think i can really make some gains. but we will see.
 
2 week plan (quick summary):

6/9/07 - 6/22/07
6 20 min sets daily with BIB
*usually I do these in 3 sets of 2 format
*currently using 10-15lbs depending on fatigue
*all BIB hanging done btc or sd

also-
Vacu Hanger:
60-120 mins daily at 8-10 pounds resistance
usually 2 sets daily
angles for this type of hanging so and ots

Goal: for my 6/22 measurement I am hoping to go to 7.75 BP which would be a .25 inch gain in 30 days. I am not going to put 8.0 past what is possible.

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fyi I am not giving up my girth training despite all this hanging. I am doing 30-60 minutes nightly of clamping and pumping.
 
I'm so in it's not even funny....*AND* I was going to suggest that I don't measure as often if you guys were to measure every two weeks cuz I have an anxiety problem when it comes to measuring as odd as that sounds. I'm gonna work up a good bp measurement this week and post and possibly not measure again til the 90 days is over. This is my most serious routine to date, and basically I'm going to hang heavy as fuck at high angles in combo with DLD blasts (some, but less girth work) and all suplemented with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] action. I'm feelin good about this, I'm lookin for one of those amazing spurts of like .8" in 3 months as I think it's possible if ya really just hammer (which I've never done for more than 3 weeks or so), but have some tools to help me manage my time better to do more with less privacy and hand time needed. Now to grow!! :s

Keep it up men.
 
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yea basically it seems like the people interested in the hangoff are going pretty hard core at least for now. I know Penis Enlargement is not yet a team sport, thank the good father haha, but it is good to do this with other people who want and are willing to succeed.

I just bought a 2.25 pump and have had my second tube graduation!!! I can fill the 2-3 inches at the base of the 2.0 (which holds 6 1/4 girth) and want to keep training that.

I can say when I look back and read posts of people who have had success at this I see a few consistent things. Tell me what you think of the order if there is one....

1) They started with a positive attitude and were determined to succeed
2) They thoroughly studied Penis Enlargement and found what worked for them
3) They worked their butt off

and in the end... They grew a bigger penis
 
10inchadvantage said:
OK. I'm hanging 7.5 lbs SD off my bed mattress as I lie here right now. Will be wearing my ADH setup today as well for 3-5 pounds SO when sitting, SD when walking.
Lucky fucker. I'm waiting for the arrival of the Bib before I start hanging again... I miss it greatly.
 
jqsderrida said:
Lucky fucker. I'm waiting for the arrival of the Bib before I start hanging again... I miss it greatly.

Been a while since I have hit the ligs. If I make it to 9" by the time school starts for Fall then I can claim I have gained 2" in length in 3 years! I'm still hoping for that .5" gain though. Gosh I should be in class right now, but doing Penis Enlargement is more productive than going to a summer community college test review session. I can't believe how slow community colleges move compared to universities!
 
I have a request. In some weird way this thread makes me wanna hang more. I want all of us to do our best to check in once a day ... just to check in if nothing else.

I like Lebron James. He took his team to the finals even though they got swept tonight. Before every game he said 1,2,3 championship.

Well they got there.

I am going to stick with 1,2,3 ... 8 (meaning 8 inches) because that is where I am headed. Shit I am even going to change my signature.

Don't let anyone train harder, don't cheat yourself and stretch that penis!!! hahahahah for real!!!

123 8!!!

Airshy
 
Well, per your request, here I am. Still waiting on the arrival of the Bib (I had to send a check as, for some reason, the paypal system would not accept my credit card information).
 
I could not agree more with double clamping. Why not? The only time i dont is when I am tired and want more of a light jelqing session. The single clamp on loose gets me somewhat erect without needing to focus on staying hard as much.

I am up to 17.5 pounds on the BIB for 6x20minutes a day. I earned tolerance to it pretty quickly I would say- faster than I would have expected anyway.

Did anyone take pre-hangoff measurements? Or recent? I am measuring on the 20th of every month and the time is nearing.
 
airshy said:
I am up to 17.5 pounds on the BIB for 6x20minutes a day. I earned tolerance to it pretty quickly I would say- faster than I would have expected anyway.

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Excellent! That's the weight range (15-17.5lbs) where I started to really see consistent gains.

Looks like a good bunch of guys in this 'hangoff'. I wish you guys the best!
 
Well, it appears that I'll start hanging again in earnest today. Yesterday, in some way, apparently, I slightly injured myself clamping. Consequently, I'll neglect to continue clamping for some time in order to allow a properly long recovery period for what seems to be a mal-affected nerve. Although the Bib has not arrived (see above post for an explanation as to why this is the case), I will use my vacu-hanger in the meanwhile.

Stillwantmore, considering that you've just ordered a new hanger, and, when it arrives, undoubtedly, you will want to test-drive it... you should join with our efforts here. You would be a big boost to our nascent community here.
 
yea it would be great to have you on board.

I have a question about angles... I am going to post the following angles I hang with, maximum weight for 20minutes, and percent of my total hanging. Currently I only use 3 angles. Do these Figures seem reasonable?

straight up - 10% - 11 pounds
straight down - 15% - 14 pounds
btc - 75% - 19 pounds.

do you have any recommendations on what I should be focusing on or is continuing to exploit the btc angle still where you would focus?
 
If the BTC angle is what's working, why change it? I only used BTC and straight down (while standing up), and gained my 2" of length. Granted those gains happened with a VERY on again, off again routine spread out over 5 or 6 years which could have been done in probaby 2 years or less with more consistency.
 
Thanks for that - I am going to measure tomorrow and feel very hopeful!!!

I have a question about the btc vs sd angle - I feel a slight pull on the side of my groin on the sd angle that prevents me from more weight. It is not painful but does limit me weight wise. I am going to be smart and let this adapt of course but was wondering if this was common or heard of?

I think I can handle more with the btc only because I have done it way more. I know you have heard it plenty SWM but congrats congrats on 2 inches - those type of gains tell me this is possible and make me continue the hard work.
 
airshy said:
I have a question about the btc vs sd angle - I feel a slight pull on the side of my groin on the sd angle that prevents me from more weight. It is not painful but does limit me weight wise. I am going to be smart and let this adapt of course but was wondering if this was common or heard of?

I remember similar challenges when hanging. Sometimes it was nearly impossible to recline back (after upping my hanging weight by a pound or two) into the BTC angle, with the skin pull, and new more intense pull from the increase in weight. With straight down, I faced similar issues occasionally.

There are ligaments that run along both sides of your penis and anchor into the pubic area. That is most likely where you are feeling this slight pull you describe. I'd suggest sticking with a weight that is more comfortable for a week or so longer, and use a 'trick' of sorts that I discovered when hanging. This 'trick' lets you increase the resistance you use when hanging, while not actually adding weight to your hanger...and it helps a LOT with transitioning to the higher weights. While in the middle of a set, you simply pull down some on the hanger with your free hand. Hold down on the hanger with as much resistance from your hand, and for as long as you can tolerate. Then, ease off, and just hang with the weight for a few minutes before repeating the hand pull.
That 'trick' helped me several times when I felt I was ready to add more weight, but when I tried adding more weight only found that I had to back down again.
 
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I like that idea. On a lot of my hangs I use a bungee cord looped around something with a fish scale attached. When I rotate the poundage by tightening and loosening the bungee cord, I can just tell the damage is extra special haha. And it is easier to do than adding an removing weights.
 
stillwantmore2 said:
If the BTC angle is what's working, why change it? I only used BTC and straight down (while standing up), and gained my 2" of length. Granted those gains happened with a VERY on again, off again routine spread out over 5 or 6 years which could have been done in probaby 2 years or less with more consistency.

SWM,

You gained 2 inches from hanging? I love hearing about more and more guys that have gained a good amount of length as that is what I am shooting for.

Still waiting on my bib too.

I will keep everyone posted.
 
So every 30 days I am going to measure. I am going to stick with BPFL for now as I just do not enjoy trying to stay hard with a ruler by my penis. Of course that is the most important measurement to me, but this seems more consistent and accurate. I am under the impression that as long as my BPFL gets better everything else will too? I cannot imagine why not but thoughts are welcome.

Anyway I have had what looks to be a 1/4 inch gain in 4 weeks. I think this is pretty accurate as I really pull my penis and jab that ruler into me until it hurts. I could not have added more on either measurements at least on those sessions.

18may2007BPFL8.jpg


june20BPFL8.25.jpg
 
19june2007BPFL8and5and16.jpg



Good call on seeing that - I didn't even notice I had done that I was mashing so hard. I can tell you though... Earlier when I took this picture 8 1/4 was the max I could pull from the top - even though the pic was at a different angle.

I just redid and I pulled 8 5/16 - 1/16 inch more than earlier. The world is a mysterious place haha... but I am glad I redid!!! Now I have to change my signature.

BTW - My new goal is going to match my measurements. 9 BPFL.
 
thanks and I hope so. do you know what that would translate to in ratio of EL gained?

by the way here is my 90 day training recap

hanging 7.8 days
constricting 1.1 days
pumping 1.8 days
edging 1.4 days

beginning size (using Cool as Fcuk's volume calculator)
*beg / now
el 6.6 now 6.9
base girth 5.1 / 6.0 *I know this does not seem realistic but this is what I am measuring
midshaft girth 4.75 / 5.5
head size 5.25 / 5.7

volume 12.96 / 17.71

*total increase of 36% volume
 
no worries at all and thanks for the props. I realize if I am going to post photos I am going to need to do it consistantly for like comparison. I am someone who would actually would prefer to take a little less of a gain for now so it would be in the bag for later - but I am going to have to call it as I see it with my eyes when it comes to measuring.
 
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As someone who has posted clear gains in the past myself, I know it can be hard to get good clear pics. Also, to measure consistently in the 'same' spot, so it looks legit can be difficult. I always took erect pics because flaccid stretched measurements can be 'fluffed' so to speak depending on things like how far a guy actually decides to stretch. All pics are up for skepticism, but I've found the better pics you provide, the better for everyone. If a guy is going to commit himself to keeping a visual record of his gains, he needs to do just that, make a commitment. I sometimes had to take the same picture 10 or more times to get the lighting, and everything right so the measurement could be seen on the ruler. It can be a hassle, but it's worth the effort! Good job so far btw Airshy!
 
Thanks 10. On my BPenis EnlargementL measurement I noticed something interesting and was not sure how to handle it. If I just stuck the ruler there (which is what I did) I measured 7.5. If I used my hand in any way I could pull my penis out and then take the photo or for more length leave my hand there pulling out some.

So I decided to focus on the constant BPFL for now as I know for a fact I am shortchanging myself on the EL measurements and do not enjoy trying to take the photos.

I wish you could see the pounds of pressure I am actually pulling with because it is probably in the 20 pound range.
 
While waiting on the arrival of the Bib, I decided to make my own. So, I just finished constructing a modified Bib hanger per the stickied instructions and am hanging SO with it currently. I will update you guys on the results.
 
I am sure you are being careful but I have read more than a few stories of injuries by homeade hangers.

I was thinking lets break this hangoff into some time frames - maybe like a football game with 4 quarters and a halftime in a month or two....

What do you think would work?
 
airshy said:
I am sure you are being careful but I have read more than a few stories of injuries by homeade hangers.

I was thinking lets break this hangoff into some time frames - maybe like a football game with 4 quarters and a halftime in a month or two....

What do you think would work?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean with the 'time frames'.
 
How long is the hangoff for? Lets assume it is 4 months -from June 9 to Oct 9.

I think we should come up with a timeframe so we can work training time goals, hanging goals, and length goals around what we come up with and break the goals up into quarters withing the hangoff.
 
If I'm understanding you correctly, I'm not sure this is a wonderful idea considering that a hanger's growth will often come in spurts. Are you wanting to divide, let's say, a hanger's goal length gains X into 4 so that x/4 should be gained each quarter? This would be fine, however, many hangers do not gain until after a certain set of limiting factors are overcome. At this point gains may come in a hurry until a new set of limiting factors are encountered. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

By the way, the homemade Bib feels great. It gives a definite fatigue which is just not accomplishable by the vacu-hanger.
 
any ideas on why sd hanging makes the lig on this side so sore and this side of my groin sore? I find it interesting I curve to the left, as this side is way tighter.

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Well - just knowing the initial hanging phase for training purposes and goals may help. Someone does not have to use it of course...

But I think at least having the option of training goals for a time period and using each other for support is good. You are right it is tough to have gain goals but good too - as they come in cycles.

I am glad the hanger is working out. I dont even use my vacu-hanger anymore lately. I can do everything with the BIB it did except the longer sessions... I just take a few minute break.

When do you expect the BIB to arrive?
 
When do I expect the Bib to arrive? In the next few days. Obviously the check has been cashed so I assume the Bib is in the works as we speak. Regarding the vacu-hanger... fuck it. I'm now convinced that all of my hundreds of hanging hours spent with it have been wasted. It is obvious that the use of vice-style hangers places stress where it ought to be properly applied - the internal structures of the penis. Fatigue as produced by such hangers are as it ought to be. I wonder, HAS ANYONE MADE SIGNIFICANT GAINS (over .5") FROM THE USE OF ONLY A VACUUM-HANGER DEVICE. Hypothesis: vacuum-hangers are ineffective Penis Enlargement devices as they do not properly place stress upon the 'internal penis'.
 
I have absolutely the same thoughts and feel like 20 minutes with the BIB is comprable to 60-90 minutes of vacu-hanging. I wish I never even went that route but I do think it was better than nothing.
 
actually what I am most impressed by are the people who manually pull their penis out. I am not exact calculating force but know roudabout what is applied to my penis daily with the bib and I am not sure my triceps and hands could produce that force without steroids.
 
airshy said:
actually what I am most impressed by are the people who manually pull their penis out. I am not exact calculating force but know roudabout what is applied to my penis daily with the bib and I am not sure my triceps and hands could produce that force without steroids.

I've never been able to feel fatigue by soley performing manual exercises.
 
airshy said:
any ideas on why sd hanging makes the lig on this side so sore and this side of my groin sore? I find it interesting I curve to the left, as this side is way tighter.

ligsore.jpg

Another example of something I experienced when I was hanging. I had many days where one side felt more of the 'pull' than the other. Nothing to be concerned over. It's pretty much 'normal'.
 
airshy said:
I was thinking lets break this hangoff into some time frames - maybe like a football game with 4 quarters and a halftime in a month or two....

in a football game there are two 45 minute halfs. the beautiful game should never have had its title looted :)


keep pushing
 
jqsderrida said:
I've never been able to feel fatigue by soley performing manual exercises.

is this a requirement for gains in Penis Enlargement? because i never fatigued from manual stretching yet still produced gains.

also, do you NEED to fatigue whilst hanging to yeild gains?


keep pushing
 
stillwantmore2 said:
Another example of something I experienced when I was hanging. I had many days where one side felt more of the 'pull' than the other. Nothing to be concerned over. It's pretty much 'normal'.
Can't believe you actually did it!!! You is crazy!
 
I just stopped by Thunders... I can't help but comment on how irritating it is to see every other post Thunder comment on the spelling or grammar of the content. I have not posted there and would be afraid to have the tecehers red pen all over me words. I hope you all don't mind some of these rambles while hanging.

Later,

Airshy SS
 
As was just posted in my log (see link in signature)

6/20/07

1x15 minutes hanging SO @ 5lbs
1x17 minutes hanging SO @ 5lbs
1x20 minutes hanging SO @ 5lbs
1x17 minutes hanging SO @ 8lbs
1x17 minutes hanging SO @ 8lbs
1x18 minutes hanging BTC @ 5lbs
1x20 minutes hanging BTC @ 5lbs

For these sets I used a homemade modified Bib hanger. I dry jelqed between every set for approximately 5 minutes. All performed sets were consecutive. Following all of the performed sets I did 10 minutes of wet jelqing. I am currently wearing the StaticWrap (hereafter SW) as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Hereafter I plan to hang soley BTC.

Total hang time today: 124 minutes
TOTAL HANG TIME SO FAR THIS WEEK: 3 hours 4 minutes
 
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