And Finally After Two Years>>> Vkay Gains!!!

VK, my first 6 months of Penis Enlargement all I did was basic stretches and jelq for 300-600 reps. I did take breaks occasionally but only because of time constraints.

I've noticed a similar phenomena with my stretching routine. After the first 4-5 days of stretching I tend to have a slight turtling after I take the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] off for the night. I definitely don't seem to hang longer, but then again it has JUST gotten cold down here. I think our high today was somewhere in the 20s, and I definitely was not hangin' low. I think that's got more to do with it than anything else.

I've actually developed a very sensitive spot right behind the ridge of my glans on the top side. It seems to be a bit of raised skin area that flares up and causes bouts of pain, more of an overly sensitive pain than aything else. After a day or so of rest it's gone, but of all the time I've Penis Enlargemented I've never had this.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
My base girth is slightly over 7".

(only if I had that girth midshaft :s :s <:( <:(>:( >:( :blush: :blush:
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What was your starting base girth VK? If you have made base girth gains, what activities caused these gains?
My base is the thickest part of my member (6-6.2") I'm pulling it further and further out with hanging... then I can use some expansion exercises on it (push for 6.5rofl )

I'm also interested inthe ballooning theory which is why I edge, I'm also an athlete so the more test/DHT inthe blood the better!
Do you kegel at all in this edging period? 'cos I read that this would cause the test/dht to hit the PC rather than the penile tissues???:(

I'm also interested in the DHT gel thing... just waiting to see what the other guys find when using it.
 
millionman said:
VK, my first 6 months of Penis Enlargement all I did was basic stretches and jelq for 300-600 reps. I did take breaks occasionally but only because of time constraints.

I've noticed a similar phenomena with my stretching routine. After the first 4-5 days of stretching I tend to have a slight turtling after I take the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] off for the night. I definitely don't seem to hang longer, but then again it has JUST gotten cold down here. I think our high today was somewhere in the 20s, and I definitely was not hangin' low. I think that's got more to do with it than anything else.

I've actually developed a very sensitive spot right behind the ridge of my glans on the top side. It seems to be a bit of raised skin area that flares up and causes bouts of pain, more of an overly sensitive pain than aything else. After a day or so of rest it's gone, but of all the time I've Penis Enlargemented I've never had this.
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Hydromaxm, maybe you should switch to hanging from manuals.


have you gained any 'dry girth'? and do you think jelqing alone can produce such gains?

I think I have IPR figured out for length, but girth seems to be different.
 
gimmegirth said:
What was your starting base girth VK? If you have made base girth gains, what activities caused these gains?
My base is the thickest part of my member (6-6.2") I'm pulling it further and further out with hanging... then I can use some expansion exercises on it (push for 6.5rofl )

I'm also interested inthe ballooning theory which is why I edge, I'm also an athlete so the more test/DHT inthe blood the better!
Do you kegel at all in this edging period? 'cos I read that this would cause the test/dht to hit the PC rather than the penile tissues???:(

I'm also interested in the DHT gel thing... just waiting to see what the other guys find when using it.
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To be honest with you I never measured my base girth before Penis Enlargement. But even half way through Penis Enlargement my base girth was small. Somewhere around 5 I would say? Again, I never measured, but I'll see if I can post a comparison picture from then.

I guess what caused my base girth was clamping. And my 'dry base girth' is around 7 inches mind you. Which is interesting to say the least. The area UNDER the clamp actually gained dry girth, where as the rest of the penis just became more elastic with gains seen in 'warm' girth. ?:(



Also, it's interesting what you say about kegeling taking the DHT away from penile tissue. I'd never heard that. Do you wanna elaborate on that? I'd be very interested in hearing about this.
 
As a measuring update:

My BPFSL is now 19.7 cm. Or slightly over the 7" 3/4 mark.
My BPenis EnlargementL is now a comfortable 19.0 cm. I haven't tried a maximum erection measurement lately.

Just wanted to note that the gains have so far stayed rofl and that I'll be officially changing my sig
 
VK, I've gained almost an inch in "dry" girth. I've never really qualified it as that. I usually take measurements cold or post-session. My cold measurements are after more than a week or more off, as far as girth is concerned. Girth has always been hard to nail down, as you can go back through some of my posts where I have said I measured at 5.75" in girth. That measurement has happened on more than a few measurements, but after an extended break it settles back down to a 5.6" or so measurement. I really don't fluctuate that much usually, but I have measured larger on days and smaller on others. It's really a struggle for me to gain in the girth department, or at least I think so. In truth I've probably progressively gained girth throughout Penis Enlargement, but it just takes so long to notice a change that it doesn't ever seem like much.

I gained from jelqing alone. I still do jelq, either dry or wet doesn't really matter, and it really helps when you're going to taper off your girth work. It's a great way to maintain an extended state without causing too much stress. It's an awesome movement to increase blood flow, speed recovery, expand both chambers with light pressure, and it feels pretty good. I don't think most men ever figure out that you only need around 3-400 at one time to notice improvement. I'd keep the volume LOW and work everyday and see where I ended up. That's how I've always used jelqs, as I feel it is a staple of any girth routine.
 
Painful Pleasur said:
wow. 0.8cm time to break out the champagne :s

that's merely a difference of erection/measurement/blood flow if you ask me.
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geez man.. He hasn't gained in 2 years.. This is a huge accomplishment if you ask me.. If i didnt gain for a whole 2 yrs then finaly gained ANYTHING id be ecstatic.

Not to be a dick or anything but.. it just seems every post I see by you seems to be negative towards the other person. Why are you always such a jerk?

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GRATS VK! Woohoo~! Keep up the good work.
 
millionman said:
VK, I've gained almost an inch in "dry" girth. I've never really qualified it as that. I usually take measurements cold or post-session. My cold measurements are after more than a week or more off, as far as girth is concerned. Girth has always been hard to nail down, as you can go back through some of my posts where I have said I measured at 5.75" in girth. That measurement has happened on more than a few measurements, but after an extended break it settles back down to a 5.6" or so measurement. I really don't fluctuate that much usually, but I have measured larger on days and smaller on others. It's really a struggle for me to gain in the girth department, or at least I think so. In truth I've probably progressively gained girth throughout Penis Enlargement, but it just takes so long to notice a change that it doesn't ever seem like much.

I gained from jelqing alone. I still do jelq, either dry or wet doesn't really matter, and it really helps when you're going to taper off your girth work. It's a great way to maintain an extended state without causing too much stress. It's an awesome movement to increase blood flow, speed recovery, expand both chambers with light pressure, and it feels pretty good. I don't think most men ever figure out that you only need around 3-400 at one time to notice improvement. I'd keep the volume LOW and work everyday and see where I ended up. That's how I've always used jelqs, as I feel it is a staple of any girth routine.
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wow, an inch in 'dry girth'? That's alot and if our understanding of 'dry girth' is the same, then that's much more impressive than 'cold measurements.'
Post session, is a very unrelieable way of measuring as there are too many variables at hand.

The best way would be to measure after at least a couple of days off of Penis Enlargement, and to get an erection and just measure it midshaft. (this is what I call dry girth). If I clamp my erection at the base with my hand, or with a cock ring, or a cable clamp, I instantly measure around 14.7 cm. around half an inch thicker. If Let the erection stay for a while or do a couple of uli's and/or jelqs and within minutes I expand to around 15.5-7 cm. This is what I refer to as 'warmed up girth'. Its the maximum size achievable under the pressure provided by the cock ring, or my hand. If I take that off at the base, the girth drops down to around 15.3 cm. So I'm guessing my 'circulatory' system isn't accustomed yet to the new size developement to rush enough blood in to make the tissue expand to its fullest potential. Maybe this is something I should tackle.
 
slics said:
geez man.. He hasn't gained in 2 years.. This is a huge accomplishment if you ask me.. If i didnt gain for a whole 2 yrs then finaly gained ANYTHING id be ecstatic.

Not to be a dick or anything but.. it just seems every post I see by you seems to be negative towards the other person. Why are you always such a jerk?

EDIT:

GRATS VK! Woohoo~! Keep up the good work.
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Thanks alot buddy.
 
Pandora said:
Congrats VK :)
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thanks man. If it weren't for your, umm.. 'contirbutions' to the adult entertainment sections in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words], I wouldn't have half of the files I use as 'edging material'. So My thanks for those.... ;) and keep them comming >:(
 
Something I've noticed is for me to get an appropriate measurement I have to be turned on. I mean I have to be aroused to the point where my CS fills and my CCs expand completely. That is what I call a FULL erection, because most of the time for me if I don't reverse kegel on anything short of completely hard my measurement can be as low as 5.25" because the CCs won't be expanded and have a flat appearance and the CS will be bloodless. I've gained a good bit of girth over my Penis Enlargement career, but I'm still not where I want to be.

My next cycle is another length cycle. I'm taking this week off, and will be back on next week. How are things going so far this week VK?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
thanks man. If it weren't for your, umm.. 'contirbutions' to the adult entertainment sections in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words], I wouldn't have half of the files I use as 'edging material'. So My thanks for those.... ;) and keep them comming >:(
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Heheheheh :D.
 
millionman said:
Something I've noticed is for me to get an appropriate measurement I have to be turned on. I mean I have to be aroused to the point where my CS fills and my CCs expand completely. That is what I call a FULL erection, because most of the time for me if I don't reverse kegel on anything short of completely hard my measurement can be as low as 5.25" because the CCs won't be expanded and have a flat appearance and the CS will be bloodless. I've gained a good bit of girth over my Penis Enlargement career, but I'm still not where I want to be.

My next cycle is another length cycle. I'm taking this week off, and will be back on next week. How are things going so far this week VK?
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Well I'm getting pounded by exams. I did 3 girth sessions, each followed by 2 days of rest. They were all 'clamping oriented'. After those, initially because of lack of time, I decided to stick to a jelq only program.

My fourth session was around 500 jelqs: Edging to near climax, pausing (doing the energy draw as I described) and then with a 'spongy' feeling penis doing 50 jelqs. I did this ten times.

It felt very good and not intense at all. I used to do 1000 jelqs without a problem so 500 seemed like a good amount without risking overtraining.

As I often am, I was wrong. The next day in the morning I had an episode of Priapism, which lasted around 20 minutes. I've mentioned how I used to get these almost everyday, but ever since stopping Penis Enlargement, taking a decon and working within my limits, it stopped happening. So I concluded that 500 jelqs is too much.


I will be experimenting with jelqing until December 18th, this comming monday, and I will take another decon break until mid January.


I want my next cycle to be designed such that I gain 1.0 cm in length, and 0.5 cm in girth.
 
VK, How are you going to design it to ensure that is your outcome?

I've taken this whole week off and I'm able to pull my penis up to the middle of my belly button. At the end of my last length cycle, last week, I could reach this mark but only post stretch session. I'm not wearing an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or doing any sort of support work. I think that once you reach a maximum stretch length and then allow that to heal then you end up with more penis post maximum length. I'm think that I've gained close to an 1/8 of an inch just from resting, at least that's what it seems like. It could be a mix of constant stress and then rest not only heals the tissue but the penis becomes revitalized and the tissue softens and becomes pliable again.

I'm thinking in terms of FR in the latter portion of that paragraph. If you keep the tissue under constant tension it will grow, but keeping it under constant tension all of the time it does not grow as quickly. In my initial attempts to regrow my foreskin I did my best to keep the skin under constant tension. Eventually I read a thread started by Kong that discussed taking the tension off of the penis and the skin being able to regenerate new cells more quickly. If you keep the tension constant the skin doesn't relax and this may retard the growth process, or at worst prolong it. I think this may be a similar phenomena that I'm seeing with my stretch routines. It seems that when I rest I end up gaining length, although as I said this is a number or visual that I've gotten before but only in a certain circumstance.
 
I deconditioned for a bit longer than I had intended, but I really didn't feel like Peing much in the last 10-12 days so I didn't. I've cut back the number of reps as well. I'm starting with as little manual work as I can to see how much or in this case how little you can do and still gain. I'm noticing improvements, but then again it's only been two days. I did two rounds of basic stretches SO yesterday, and today I went up to 3 rounds. I'll stay with 3 rounds for at least 2 more sessions. On the second round today I felt fatigue on both sides of the tunica when I pulled to the left and right respectively. I think this is a good sign for an extended deconditioning period.
 
Well, a two week length cycle goes for 2 whole weeks or 14 days. This is kind of dependent upon how beat up my penis gets. If I'm cruising along and still progressing it's a full 14 days but sometimes the skin will get irritated or my glans will get hard and bruise a bit and then I'll take some time off.
 
Hey guys. I was gonna start a new thread about this but thought it would be most beneficial if I posted the rest of this journey here.

As many of you know I had been stuck for a little over two years behind a brick wall that kept me from gaining any length.

I had a BPFSL of 7 5/8th (19.3 cm) and a BPenis EnlargementL of around 18.0~18.2 cm.
After my last IPR cycle, I gained around 0.8 cm.
I am now comming back after around a month of decon and did my first routine which was a warm up of jelqs and very light hanging of 7.5 lbs for 2 20 minute sets. My dick couldn't handle anymore than 20 minutes at a time due to the deconditioning. I didn't feel any stretch from that routine but it counts as a warm up.

I did my first routine of hanging for 34 minutes at 10.5 lbs while erect.

I'm going to be testing this way of hanging during this cycle to see how much gains is possible through errect hanging.

What I do is I place a CTC cushion right behind my glans, and i get errect and apply a constrictor at the base (i initially used another cushion at the base during my first cycle but this time experimented with the air clamp which is much more constricting). Then I push my glans into the cycliner as much as possible and then slowly push the CTC cushion behind my glans into the cylinder. This will force some blood out of the glans to make it fit into the cylinder, while forming a tight seal with the cylinder. As an extra I roll a max vac sheath over the max vac cylinder and roll the other half onto my penis, so that half of it is on the cylinder and the other half on my dick. This will ensure that the seal wont break. i apply some vacuum to suck the head in if its not already completley in.

i watch around 2 minutes of adult entertainment to gain full erection again and do some hard kegels... I then attach the weight and SLOWLY let go... the stretch along the shaft is amazing and i find that the tunica is getting stretched way more than the ligs.


here is a measured pic. You have to forgive me if its not up to standards, I tried my best and i still couldn't fully straighten my curve and kept losing some of my erection. On a normal measure it reads exactly 19.0 cm. Again my appologies for the quality of the photo but this photo is not a bragging photo (which i will be posting when I reach 9x7:blush: :s ). This picture is to serve two points:

1) to show that my gains from more than a month of decon are still there.

we (me and a few other members) had quite a bit of concern if my gains were temporary. Fortunately, so far they've been solid.

and
2) to compare progress if I am to gain from this cycle.

This pic was taken before I started my cycle, and shows a dry, un-assisted erection, bent parallel to the ground. I have an erection angle of around 12 O'clock so its very tough to bring it down to 9 O'clock without losing some blood.


I'm planning this cycle to gain around 1-1.2 cm. :s Wish me luck.
 
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