doublelongdaddy;498663 said:
To be honest I would rather eat a $50 meal, buy a $300 prostitute and a half ounce of good weed...no shame in that game:)

I totally agree, no need to go hungry. Life is meant to be enjoyed, it all depends on what it's worth to you.

But that's partly my point, nobody buys a restaurant just so they can eat or pledges their whole paycheck for 18 years to a dealer to get a buzz on the weekend. It's completely out of proportion to what you are getting.

Hey why not start your own company doing janitorial services on the side so you can use the bathroom?

Only with sex do we get these bright ideas about committing ourselves to one provider in some totally disadvantageous way.
 
MikeShlort;498658 said:
True. But the shame of lying next to a can of stew you are suddenly disgusted with and don't want to talk to anymore is a bad feeling. However, a meal that you enjoy being around and are truly aroused by is a good feeling.

If I was a wise old mr. myagi type dude this is how I'd put it

Can stew always eating no talking no fucking.

Woman no eating or talking, only fucking, sucking, food and baby. Man good talking but no fucking unless woman.

Toilet no talking no fucking no eating, only shit and piss.

Probrem come try lay down and talking can of stew instead eat, just like suck toilet, always bad no matter how good toilet or stew.

Same with woman, you complain woman no good for talking like toilet no good fucking and sucking. Don't fuck toilet, take shit then flush. Don't talk woman, fuck, she make sandwich, then you go. Don't look whole life find woman talking and toilet fucking. Waste time, look foolish always.

Use everything alway proper use avoid probrem no look stupid always wins.

OK, ready and break!
 
I guess in that case the true winners are the genetically superior social ladder climber douche bags who constantly have sex with "quality" girls and then discard them because they know they can always get another one.

I definitely don't want to have to bend over backwards to get what these guys get for existing.
 
Now you're getting it. The only place I'd disagree is that they're getting anything all that great, it's like being envious of guys who get free hamburgers from McDonalds.

One thing you may realize is that most women generally speaking are idiots and have horrible taste in men. Not being selected is a compliment as most of the greatest men in history spent their lives alone either because they couldn't stand women or women didn't like them.

Was Beethoven genetically inferior? How about Leonardo de Vinci? So who is the genetic winner? The pool boy? How many ladies men have contributed anything to mankind?

In my opinion allowing women to define winners and losers is not productive. Look around you at the people who are reproducing the most, they are largely genetic inferiors.

One reason guys discard women is that they have enough experience to know that they are nothing special.

In fact when I look at most "beautiful" women, I feel total indifference. Very few women make me feel anything other than mild amusement. Guys around me are always chasing mediocre women, sometimes I wonder if they have functioning eyes and mostly the women ignore them.

Ironically when you reach this state you become "good with women" because women like men who don't give two shits or have very high standards. Right now you like women too much to be any good with them.

I always tell women what I think like I don't think they should not vote or drive and cover their ugly asses up in public. I say marriage is a scam and your husband is a sucker and whenever woman complains about husband I always express sympathy for him. She says "he does this" and I say "what did you do to upset him".

Theres an ice breaker, you'd be surprised at the reactions you get. Some bad, yes but some very good.
 
When I was 30 I took a women's studies class in college to finish my degree and I told the women and the teacher exactly what I think. I mocked everything they believed and proved them wrong with humor and derision. At first they were shocked and appalled but that did not affect me even slightly, I would keep doing it and eventually they thought it was very amusing.

By the end of the course the more attractive, feminine girls in the class thought I was great, lesbians hated me and the teacher gave me a B even though I failed the final and didn't do most of the work. Funny thing was teacher seemed to find it most amusing even though she obviously disagreed.

This is an example of how backwards a woman's psychology is, they want a man who treats them inferior. But when you think about the nature of sex, this makes sense. Man dominates woman.
 
petersouth;499429 said:
When I was 30 I took a women's studies class in college to finish my degree and I told the women and the teacher exactly what I think. I mocked everything they believed and proved them wrong with humor and derision. At first they were shocked and appalled but that did not affect me even slightly, I would keep doing it and eventually they thought it was very amusing.

By the end of the course the more attractive, feminine girls in the class thought I was great, lesbians hated me and the teacher gave me a B even though I failed the final and didn't do most of the work. Funny thing was teacher seemed to find it most amusing even though she obviously disagreed.

This is an example of how backwards a woman's psychology is, they want a man who treats them inferior. But when you think about the nature of sex, this makes sense. Man dominates woman.


My Son used the same strategy:)
 
hepcat;499531 said:
So is he turning them ho's the fuck out like poppa?:O:)

Nope, he is 18 and expecting his first baby in November:) He fell for his first love and they wanted to start early.
 
Okay petersouth, I agree with what you say. I don't like it, but I find it's true. I find girls are more interested in me when I ignore them. Although, by ignoring them, I also don't get a chance to get their number, etc. I'm talking about at work because this is the only place I am exposed to girls. I can't figure out the transition from work place girl to girl sucking my cock. The other guys seem to be able to figure it out, but this is mainly because of mutual social connections. And the odd time I get invited to a party, I either sit and over think or get drunk and act like a prick.

What are your suggestions for a near 26 year old who lives with his parents, has no friends, makes minimum wage money but has a decent body and a face that is ugly, but not too ugly? What are my options for having sex with girls? How do I make it happen? What are so tricks, strategies? I am starting to feel self loathing again eery time I see a female. Give me some options and tricks, methods, etc.
 
hepcat;500453 said:
That's cool! It is very rare today to find that someone so young in life. My parents met when they were 17 and are still happily married. Your probably going to have to consider changing your name to DLG (Double Long Grandaddy).:s:P


lol already thought about the name change:) Yeah, He is very happy with his girl, they are young but want to start early. We have a pretty good family and take care of each other. They will do just fine. What are they missing out on? The bar scene and party life? Big deal, they are about to have a Son and that is far more important to them.
 
MikeShlort;500444 said:
Okay petersouth, I agree with what you say. I don't like it, but I find it's true. I find girls are more interested in me when I ignore them. Although, by ignoring them, I also don't get a chance to get their number, etc. I'm talking about at work because this is the only place I am exposed to girls. I can't figure out the transition from work place girl to girl sucking my cock. The other guys seem to be able to figure it out, but this is mainly because of mutual social connections. And the odd time I get invited to a party, I either sit and over think or get drunk and act like a prick.

What are your suggestions for a near 26 year old who lives with his parents, has no friends, makes minimum wage money but has a decent body and a face that is ugly, but not too ugly? What are my options for having sex with girls? How do I make it happen? What are so tricks, strategies? I am starting to feel self loathing again eery time I see a female. Give me some options and tricks, methods, etc.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com
 
^ Interesting, I knew most of these things but it's good to see it written.

Do you think it's necessary to have other available women on standby in case of a breakup? Or could you use not caring about being alone and still not caving emotionally to her threats as leaving as leverage? Ie - You have no other women to be with if she leaves you, but you act like you don't care one bit about being alone and not give into her ultimatums if she is threatening to leave. In fact, you tell her to leave. Does she need to see you with another woman to make her jealous and gain back respect/desire for you or do you think that just the mere fact you were so quick to tell her to leave once she starts gaining back power will make her respect you?
 
In my opinion, after a break up, a man should stay single for a while. Enough time that he can get over the loss, if he rushes too soon he may find himself in a relationship that was created out of desperation instead of love. I am still single today as I have not gotten over my past losses completely. I know, when the time is right, God will provide!
 
MikeShlort;500929 said:
^ Interesting, I knew most of these things but it's good to see it written.

Do you think it's necessary to have other available women on standby in case of a breakup? Or could you use not caring about being alone and still not caving emotionally to her threats as leaving as leverage? Ie - You have no other women to be with if she leaves you, but you act like you don't care one bit about being alone and not give into her ultimatums if she is threatening to leave. In fact, you tell her to leave. Does she need to see you with another woman to make her jealous and gain back respect/desire for you or do you think that just the mere fact you were so quick to tell her to leave once she starts gaining back power will make her respect you?

The basic problem is that male/female sexual market value is extremely lopsided.

Your girlfriend breaks up with you she can have another guy within a week or even that day, even if not a bf definitely she can grab a hot guy from a bar for sex. Truth is most girls have more than one guy lined up to take your place that she calls friends. Of course she will get upset if you suggest they want to get into her pants. It's bullshit, women don't let go of one vine until they have another prepared. Often your girl wants to break up with you for six months or a year but she won't pull the rip cord until she has someone appropriate lined up. Usually, this is the case.

That is why most men get blindsided, they think things are going great when the woman has not been satisfied for a long time. The most common reason for boredom is guys when they get into relationships cut off their friends and throw away their black books and start hanging out with her friends. This isolates the man and sets him up for failure as the woman sees he has no life or options other than her. When the breakup happens the guy is often completely isolated and falls into a depression.

Now you on the other hand, if she breaks up with you it could be six long months of masturbation before you can replace what you had, maybe longer if you go into an emotional tailspin. What this means is she has all the power in the relationship.

But if you are a player and you keep 5 fuckbuddies she has no power to tell you shit. One of the girls on your list has a headache, you call the next number and she'll have to catch up with you later. The key is you don't tell any of these girls about each other and don't make any verbal commitment but don't tell her you fuck other girls. Let her wonder. That way when you blow her off after a fight she will wonder how you are so cool about it. Maybe she will see you out with that other girl and then she'll really go nuts. Tell her she's just a friend but she will read the other girl's body language believe me.

Let her see you with these other girls but don't introduce any of them as girlfriend, say they are just friends and stop being so jealous. YOu can invite these girls to the same coffee date and they will not figure it out.

All they know is they have competition. I used to do this all the time, I would invite an ex girlfriend who I was still fucking to meet a new girlfriend for coffee. You could see their hamsters going into overdrive and it made things smooth sailing with the new girl because she knew she better reel me in quick. Later I told her we used to fuck a lot but we were just friends now, if she would complain I would get indignant about it and say "am I not allowed to have friends Hitler?". My girlfriend hated it but it kept her on her toes because she knew if she doesn't put out the other girl might get her old place back.

There is nothing to worry about because there is a wall of jealousy that makes collaboration with the enemy unlikely. She just knows that bitch is sniffing around my man. lol

Of course you can seriously date one of them and have girls on the side and just not give a shit. If caught you'll laugh and chances are she'll stick around anyway when she finds out how valuable you are. She'll fight for you in many cases so don't worry about it.

A woman would rather have half a winner than all of a loser.
 
The problem with just "not caring" is the lack of options is what leads to the breakup and you will care. If you have a hot girl you won't be able to keep her as a loner. Other guys will be sniffing her butt constantly and the only thing that will keep her in your corner is knowing that you have the same options and could dump her just as quick.

So either learn to be a player or stick to hookers, don't be an average chump trying to keep a cute girl because these days with facebook and all the other attention whore shit it doesn't work.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/attention-whore-hyperactivity-disorder/
 
petersouth;500997 said:
The problem with just "not caring" is the lack of options is what leads to the breakup and you will care. If you have a hot girl you won't be able to keep her as a loner. Other guys will be sniffing her butt constantly and the only thing that will keep her in your corner is knowing that you have the same options and could dump her just as quick.

So either learn to be a player or stick to hookers, don't be an average chump trying to keep a cute girl because these days with facebook and all the other attention whore shit it doesn't work.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/attention-whore-hyperactivity-disorder/

Fuck it then. I've read that site, I don't like the guys who comment. They are the type of guys who I try to fight when I drink because I hate them for existing. I'd rather die alone than become a piece of shit. I wager they treat women like shit because they couldn't get away with being an asshole to another man.

What if when you're with your girl other girls check you out the odd time? Is that enough to keep her ego appeased or do I have to be in actual contact with other women who would fuck me?
 
petersouth;500996 said:
The basic problem is that male/female sexual market value is extremely lopsided.

Your girlfriend breaks up with you she can have another guy within a week or even that day, even if not a bf definitely she can grab a hot guy from a bar for sex. Truth is most girls have more than one guy lined up to take your place that she calls friends. Of course she will get upset if you suggest they want to get into her pants. It's bullshit, women don't let go of one vine until they have another prepared. Often your girl wants to break up with you for six months or a year but she won't pull the rip cord until she has someone appropriate lined up. Usually, this is the case.

That is why most men get blindsided, they think things are going great when the woman has not been satisfied for a long time. The most common reason for boredom is guys when they get into relationships cut off their friends and throw away their black books and start hanging out with her friends. This isolates the man and sets him up for failure as the woman sees he has no life or options other than her. When the breakup happens the guy is often completely isolated and falls into a depression.

Now you on the other hand, if she breaks up with you it could be six long months of masturbation before you can replace what you had, maybe longer if you go into an emotional tailspin. What this means is she has all the power in the relationship.

But if you are a player and you keep 5 fuckbuddies she has no power to tell you shit. One of the girls on your list has a headache, you call the next number and she'll have to catch up with you later. The key is you don't tell any of these girls about each other and don't make any verbal commitment but don't tell her you fuck other girls. Let her wonder. That way when you blow her off after a fight she will wonder how you are so cool about it. Maybe she will see you out with that other girl and then she'll really go nuts. Tell her she's just a friend but she will read the other girl's body language believe me.

Let her see you with these other girls but don't introduce any of them as girlfriend, say they are just friends and stop being so jealous. YOu can invite these girls to the same coffee date and they will not figure it out.

All they know is they have competition. I used to do this all the time, I would invite an ex girlfriend who I was still fucking to meet a new girlfriend for coffee. You could see their hamsters going into overdrive and it made things smooth sailing with the new girl because she knew she better reel me in quick. Later I told her we used to fuck a lot but we were just friends now, if she would complain I would get indignant about it and say "am I not allowed to have friends Hitler?". My girlfriend hated it but it kept her on her toes because she knew if she doesn't put out the other girl might get her old place back.

There is nothing to worry about because there is a wall of jealousy that makes collaboration with the enemy unlikely. She just knows that bitch is sniffing around my man. lol

Of course you can seriously date one of them and have girls on the side and just not give a shit. If caught you'll laugh and chances are she'll stick around anyway when she finds out how valuable you are. She'll fight for you in many cases so don't worry about it.

A woman would rather have half a winner than all of a loser.

Can't do it, I could never pull it off. I take my hat off to you. I don't understand how it's so easy for everyone to play. I think the only thing I am capable of is getting sluts at the bar in a different city or foreign country, somewhere where I am not known and it doesn't matter what I have or who I know. But this would require alcohol.
I think the reason I don't do well with people is because my contempt for the mannequins is not well hidden :(
 
hepcat;501001 said:
I feel the same way. Too bad I don't make enough money to get an escort whenever I wanted one. Oh well, we're all gonna be dead in four months so who really cares.:)

hahahha.
If I play my cards right, ya
 
MikeShlort;500999 said:
Fuck it then. I've read that site, I don't like the guys who comment. They are the type of guys who I try to fight when I drink because I hate them for existing. I'd rather die alone than become a piece of shit. I wager they treat women like shit because they couldn't get away with being an asshole to another man.

What if when you're with your girl other girls check you out the odd time? Is that enough to keep her ego appeased or do I have to be in actual contact with other women who would fuck me?

That's right, they are a bunch of douchebags and many of them are doing it on purpose because they like a wet, warm hole once in a while. It's quite sad really.

If she knows other girls want you that will work but she has to see them as a clear and present danger. Like when I was playing music and girls would come up and high five and talk about putting roofies in my drink that was credible. She knew I could get a girlfriend pretty easily and that made her want me more. Now if some girl looks at me and keeps walking that's really nothing to worry about, I'd have a long way to get that woman in my bed.

Now there is something working in your favor as women tend to be someone blind about the plight of the average man. Guys who do well with women come in all shapes and sizes and there are so many factorswhere for women it's mostly physical beauty. So she may not know you are an average loser because you came off well to her. An average looking guy could be a bouncer at a strip club or a bartender and get more ass than a toilet seat.

I've found that most women think that guys get laid left and right and are surprised and dismayed to find out their boyfriend they think is so great had a 1 year losing streak before meeting her. But that's why her realizing that about you is so deadly.

After all you were good enough to get with her, why not other girls? What bad thing doesn't she know about you? Maybe he's not so great after all.
 
petersouth;501022 said:
That's right, they are a bunch of douchebags and many of them are doing it on purpose because they like a wet, warm hole once in a while. It's quite sad really.

If she knows other girls want you that will work but she has to see them as a clear and present danger. Like when I was playing music and girls would come up and high five and talk about putting roofies in my drink that was credible. She knew I could get a girlfriend pretty easily and that made her want me more. Now if some girl looks at me and keeps walking that's really nothing to worry about, I'd have a long way to get that woman in my bed.

Now there is something working in your favor as women tend to be someone blind about the plight of the average man. Guys who do well with women come in all shapes and sizes and there are so many factorswhere for women it's mostly physical beauty. So she may not know you are an average loser because you came off well to her. An average looking guy could be a bouncer at a strip club or a bartender and get more ass than a toilet seat.

I've found that most women think that guys get laid left and right and are surprised and dismayed to find out their boyfriend they think is so great had a 1 year losing streak before meeting her. But that's why her realizing that about you is so deadly.

After all you were good enough to get with her, why not other girls? What bad thing doesn't she know about you? Maybe he's not so great after all.

So how do you know if you're good looking or ugly? If you are good looking will women just hit on you? What if you never try to talk to them but they are the first to talk to you, in a workplace setting? Are they just trying to be inclusive and nice to the loner?
Do good looking guys have to work for it ie- approach women or do women approach them? (At a bar, at the mall etc) I really can't tell what they are thinking when they look at me. A friend once said it's impossible to tell, they could find you attractive, or maybe they just think you're funny looking. Is there some sort of way to test this or would it just be that if you were good looking, you would not be single all the time and women would come up to you and hit on you?
 
MikeShlort;501012 said:
Can't do it, I could never pull it off. I take my hat off to you. I don't understand how it's so easy for everyone to play. I think the only thing I am capable of is getting sluts at the bar in a different city or foreign country, somewhere where I am not known and it doesn't matter what I have or who I know. But this would require alcohol.
I think the reason I don't do well with people is because my contempt for the mannequins is not well hidden :(

Well that's good, we're on the same page now, I lost my stomach for it at some point.

Reminds me of that old Glen Frey song from Miami Vice.

"It's a losing proposition but one you can't refuse..."
 
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