MikeShlort;497701 said:
I would never marry a woman without a pre-nuptual agreement and sitting down with a lawyer, drawing up a contract that makes it clear our separate finances will never become part of the relationship. I would have it drawn out so the x amount of dollars she or I put into a house or anything we own will be kept track of and each party will keep exactly 100% of what they own once the relationship ends. I will see to it that she signs it and make sure that it is legally binding, no loopholes, no possibility of re-negging, iron clad. This is the only way I would live common law or get married.

Smart man.
 
MikeShlort;497701 said:
I would never marry a woman without a pre-nuptual agreement and sitting down with a lawyer, drawing up a contract that makes it clear our separate finances will never become part of the relationship. I would have it drawn out so the x amount of dollars she or I put into a house or anything we own will be kept track of and each party will keep exactly 100% of what they own once the relationship ends. I will see to it that she signs it and make sure that it is legally binding, no loopholes, no possibility of re-negging, iron clad. This is the only way I would live common law or get married.

Think I can't find a woman willing to sign this? Well see.

We do have a lot of ground to cover.

Prenups don't hold up very well by and large, if the judge decides it's not fair it gets tossed. If children are involved the prenup isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Just look at what you have to look forward to, two nice Canadian guys.

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/09/dave-foley-finances-child-support-tabatha-southey/

"I'm happy to give away half my money, that would be great," he said on the podcast. "But I'm literally obligated to give away 400 percent of my income, or otherwise go to jail.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...philippines-leaving-four-kids-without-support
 
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petersouth;497727 said:
We do have a lot of ground to cover.

Prenups don't hold up very well by and large, if the judge decides it's not fair it gets tossed. If children are involved the prenup isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Just look at what you have to look forward to, two nice Canadian guys.

http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/09/dave-foley-finances-child-support-tabatha-southey/

"I'm happy to give away half my money, that would be great," he said on the podcast. "But I'm literally obligated to give away 400 percent of my income, or otherwise go to jail.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...philippines-leaving-four-kids-without-support

I skimmed through those, nowhere does it say they had signed a prenup.

Where do you get your information that a prenup doesn't hold up?
 
MikeShlort;497730 said:
I skimmed through those, nowhere does it say they had signed a prenup.

Where do you get your information that a prenup doesn't hold up?

It's common knowledge. They have kids, enough said.

A family court judge can do whatever he wants, a prenup is something he'll look at if he feels like it.
 
How to Break a Prenup

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5333445&page=1#.UDMZW6PhdIY

Again this has no bearing on child support and child support cannot be lowered once assessed.

But it can be raised ;) You start making a little money like you get an extra job to feed yourself they'll tack that on and you won't be able to quit. How you like them apples.

Yeah I know a few divorced guys. My uncles been in and out of prison as long as I knew him. His kids are in their early 30s and he still owes 40k.

My half brother went to jail a couple months ago, he's in their with rapists and murderers. His child support got assessed when he was making 5k a month cleaning pools but his joints quit on him he can't do that any more. Then he was making 1500 a month working at home depot or something. Fuck you, pay me.

I would say I have met around 10 men about half of those in my immediate family or circle of acquaintances that are either serving time, dodging warrants from other states or that are in jail for inability to pay child support. The small business I worked at the CEO's brother was in jail for a while and told me about it. I played in a band last summer and the drummer disappeared. Turned out he was dogging a warrant. lol

Pussy is one hell of a drug.
 
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Keep in mind that Canada's legal system is different from the United States.

So I'll videotape us both signing the pre-nup, to show she is in a sane frame of mind. I will make sure she lets her lawyer look over it. I will make sure it is well before any wedding date plans.

"According to Felder, infidelity alone isn't grounds to throw out a prenup. "
So if I happen to cheat, that doesn't necessarily void the prenup, unless it is stated in the contract a clause against cheating.

I will make her sign a document with her lawyer that agrees she was not tricked or rushed into signing the prenup.

"If the couple had been living together, was already involved sexually and had perhaps made babies together, their relationship is unique," Hennenhoefer said. "If the prenup does not reflect that, it can be tossed out. If the couple was established, they have a confidential relationship, which is different from the sort of fiduciary relationship two people looking to enter a business contract might have."
I will make the prenup cover various scenarios - ie, children, living together etc. It won't just be one scenario.

I imagine many of these prenups are thrown out because people are stupid and don't take the necessary precautions to ensure that it is iron clad.

I'm not too worried about it. Sounds like you just know a bunch of guys who don't know how to use condoms.
 
hepcat;497794 said:
"But don't you trust me and love me?' Fuck no I don't trust you! Best thing to do is don't have any kids and never get married! If you have enough time living together to be considered a common law marriage make her keep a studio apartment for herself. And kick her out of your crib every 6.5 years. Anything less is asking for a ruined life.:)

I don't necessarily agree.
I imagine I can maneuver around all the bullshit with careful planning and a big cock (leverage).
 
hepcat;497913 said:
But why get married if it's causing you to come up with elaborate plans to secure your assets. Sounds like a headache to me. You said you're about to turn 26. Do you really believe that you or she will/can be with only one person for the rest of your lives? At least wait until you're in your 30's before you take the plunge.:)

I'd never thought I'd live to see the day that I was more negative than you Mr. Shlort.:s:P

I have the unfortunate disease of only wanting to be with one girl once I start to like one. But rest assured, under normal circumstances, I just want to have sex with anything that ovulates.
 
hepcat;497924 said:
I'm the same way regarding only wanting to be with one girl, but I don't know how realistic that is these days with 51% of all marriages ending in divorce. What you have is known as oneitus. This limits your selection of girls obviously because you are so infatuated with one girl you put all your eggs in one basket and don't take interest in all the females out there.

Yes.
But keep in mind, that 51% figure includes the 90% of people that are complete shyte.
 
MikeShlort;497741 said:
Keep in mind that Canada's legal system is different from the United States.

So I'll videotape us both signing the pre-nup, to show she is in a sane frame of mind. I will make sure she lets her lawyer look over it. I will make sure it is well before any wedding date plans.

"According to Felder, infidelity alone isn't grounds to throw out a prenup. "
So if I happen to cheat, that doesn't necessarily void the prenup, unless it is stated in the contract a clause against cheating.

I will make her sign a document with her lawyer that agrees she was not tricked or rushed into signing the prenup.

"If the couple had been living together, was already involved sexually and had perhaps made babies together, their relationship is unique," Hennenhoefer said. "If the prenup does not reflect that, it can be tossed out. If the couple was established, they have a confidential relationship, which is different from the sort of fiduciary relationship two people looking to enter a business contract might have."
I will make the prenup cover various scenarios - ie, children, living together etc. It won't just be one scenario.

I imagine many of these prenups are thrown out because people are stupid and don't take the necessary precautions to ensure that it is iron clad.

I'm not too worried about it. Sounds like you just know a bunch of guys who don't know how to use condoms.

Eh Mike, the judge doesn't have to honor it anyway. A prenup is not binding in any way whatsoever and Canada's system is very similar.

If she doesn't have a job and she's gonna be homeless guess what? The judge is not going to let cupcake go hungry so you can keep your bankroll. Alimony can continue for months, years or even life in some cases. She could come back at you decades later and get your retirement.

And I wonder which sweet young thing is going to marry you, a man who doesn't bathe with no expectation of children. For a man who sees an 8 inch penis behind every zipper you are awfully sure of yourself.

Graveyards are littered with the corpses of men who think as you do.
 
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hepcat;497924 said:
I'm the same way regarding only wanting to be with one girl, but I don't know how realistic that is these days with 51% of all marriages ending in divorce. What you have is known as oneitus. This limits your selection of girls obviously because you are so infatuated with one girl you put all your eggs in one basket and don't take interest in all the other potential mates that are out there.

Failure rate is really higher when you consider that you can probably add another 25% that are miserable. This next generation is going to have much higher rates, we can't know what the current rate is for a while. Many are just waiting until the kids finish college to drop the bomb on hubby. Others simply can't afford it even though they hate each other.

My grandparents stayed together until the end and it didn't inspire me at all. Basically they knew how to stay out of each other's way.

Believe it or not a major cause of divorce today is facebook. If the "one that got away" messages her, you are toast.

In many cases you have to realize that you are her 2nd, 3rd or 32nd choice. She had to marry someone before she passed the expiration date so she married you. Congratulations! lol
 
MikeShlort;497918 said:
I have the unfortunate disease of only wanting to be with one girl once I start to like one. But rest assured, under normal circumstances, I just want to have sex with anything that ovulates.

BTW didn't you say somewhere that you are a virgin or did I read that wrong?
 
petersouth;497936 said:
BTW didn't you say somewhere that you are a virgin or did I read that wrong?

No I've had sex with a dirty cunt before.
That's actually part of the reason why I spend my time pulling on my dick in different directions and going to the gym in my free time, rather than staying sedated and thoroughly enjoying my time.
 
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petersouth;497934 said:
Graveyards are littered with the corpses of men who think as you do.

Think like me? You mean men who work on their bodies, mind and penis so that they have just as much chance of getting a bar slut on a given night as their partner would have getting some cock? I don't think so, pal!

When you aren't the guy that has to beg and compromise to get a woman, you hold power. We can't all be born black guys, but doesn't mean we have to allow ourselves to become vaginas.
 
MikeShlort;497939 said:
Think like me? You mean men who work on their bodies, mind and penis so that they have just as much chance of getting a bar slut on a given night as their partner would have getting some cock? I don't think so, pal!

When you aren't the guy that has to beg and compromise to get a woman, you hold power. We can't all be born black guys, but doesn't mean we have to allow ourselves to become vaginas.

I mean people who know it all but have no practical experience. Lots of younger people have that mentality and then they find out they are just like everybody else with no special super powers.

Just look at everything that I posted that 1 day ago you had no idea about. Now take that and multiply it several hundred times. That is what is going to kill you.

Not to be racist but I have no wish to be black, I'm happy to be white. That is your problem that you think they are better.
 
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Any married man is a beggar, women have too much legal power in a marriage.

She can make a phone call and have a jackboots with MP5s standing over you with a foot on your neck in half an hour. She can have you booted from the house with a restraining order because she says she is afraid. No evidence required other than her word.

And if you think a woman can't find another guy with a big dick to fuck you are sadly mistaken. Women are just like men anyway they get bored with the same guy.

You can show me a woman with the biggest tits and the best vagina in the world but 3 months later I'm ready for a break.
 
MikeShlort;497938 said:
No I've had sex with a dirty cunt before.
That's actually part of the reason why I spend my time pulling on my dick in different directions and going to the gym in my free time, rather than staying sedated and thoroughly enjoying my time.

Really? What happened to the guy who couldn't be bothered with soap or a razor or going to the gym from a few posts ago?
 
petersouth;497954 said:
You can show me a woman with the biggest tits and the best vagina in the world but 3 months later I'm ready for a break.


And this is the reason that almost any woman is attainable, men become bored quick.
 
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