Very hard to read without paragraphs if you give me permission I’ll go in and correct it for you.
 
Absolutely. I apologize for that. I’ll do better next time. I didn’t even think about spacing anything out LOL.

Not a problem at all my brother, many people do the same thing. What happens when it’s all stuck together like this is people don’t read it. So I’ll break it up for you.
 
The chart below is our current best data concerning penis size. The measurements were taken from the top center of the penis and are NON-BONEPRESSED.

Erect Length (measured NBPEL on top of the penis)

Length Inches....Cumulative.....Bigger than you.... Smaller than you
3.75 or less..........0.6%...............994/1000..........................6/1000
4.00......................1.6%...............984/1000........................16/1000
4.25......................3.0%...............970/1000........................30/1000
4.50......................3.8%...............962/1000........................38/1000
4.75......................8.0%...............920/1000........................80/1000
5.00....................12.5%...............875/1000 .....................125/1000
5.25....................20.0%...............800/1000 .....................200/1000
5.50....................27.7%...............723/1000......................277/1000
5.75....................44.6%...............554/1000......................446/1000
6.00....................60.2%...............398/1000 .....................602/1000
6.25....................69.9%...............301/1000......................699/1000
6.50....................81.0%...............190/1000......................810/1000
6.75....................90.5% ................95/1000......................905/1000
7.00....................92.5%.................75/1000......................925/1000
7.25....................94.3%.................57/1000......................943/1000
7.50....................97.0%.................30/1000......................970/1000
7.75....................97.8%.................22/1000......................978/1000
8.00....................98.8%.................12/1000......................988/1000
8.25....................99.1%...................9/1000......................991/1000
8.50....................99.4%...................6/1000......................994/1000
8.75....................99.5%...................5/1000......................995/1000
9.00 or more...100.0% ..................0/1000......................999/1000


From the same survey data, this is a chart on penile girth. The girth on this was measured mid-shaft. If you would like to compare to this chart, you would have to measure your own penis mid-shaft, or the comparison would not be valid.

Erect Girth (measured MSEG at the mid of the dick)

Girth Inches.....Cumulative.....Bigger than you.... Smaller than you
3.50 or below.......0.9%..............991/1000..........................9/1000
3.75.......................1.6%..............984/1000........................16/1000
4.00.......................4.7%..............953/1000........................47/1000
4.25.......................8.8%..............912/1000........................88/1000
4.50.....................14.6%..............854/1000......................146/1000
4.75.....................27.7%..............723/1000......................277/1000
5.00.....................50.0%..............500/1000 .....................500/1000
5.25.....................83.0%..............170/1000 .....................830/1000
5.50.....................93.0%................70/1000......................930/1000
5.75.....................95.6%................44/1000......................956/1000
6.00......................100%..................1/1000......................999/1000


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So not the often said average of around 5.5 BPEL x 4.9 EG.
Even if they got people who came on their own to the survey and felt confident.

Sadly he hasn't linked the source but as he was/is a very well-known person here, no doubts that he wasn't posting the correct data of the survey :)

So who's motivated now? (fire)
Now we all can change our goals from BPEL to NBPEL (xd)
 
I will tell you the ACTUAL TRUTH regarding dick size... are you ready? ?

Some are big, some are small, and some are just "meh".

I accept cash, check, and PayPal.
 
I will tell you the ACTUAL TRUTH regarding dick size... are you ready? ?

Some are big, some are small, and some are just "meh".

I accept cash, check, and PayPal.

@TuffDong I think the most of us are here to become the ones on the big side while also improving ourselves. If we talk about numbers or about word definitions, it's not the deal here LOL I could easily counter you now and say, what's the definition of 'big', 'small' and 'meh' ;)
I don't think it's bad comparing the sizes to others. We are not competing, but we want to know the actual truth :)

Come on bro, your comparison here is like:
It's like the earth is round and everybody says: If it's round or a plate - we can all live on it with being happy, it doesn't matter. We don't wanna know the truth.

Or when you would ask your doctor how your health stats are and he answers: 'Some are healthy some are not - you will die anyways' (xd)
Don't think that this would make you happy :)


Btw. if size wouldn't matter, why is the name of the website 'mattersofsize' and why did people click on it when they had been interested in size :confused:(cwl)
 
Are we on PE forum? Or a self acceptance retreat? Like wtf... XD
Looks float back down to reality here for a second, and not kid ourselves into thinking that the world is fair and everything is equal... the reality, bigger is better up to a certain point when it comes to dick size.
Otherwise NONE of use would be here, regardless of reasoning.
 
I 100% agree with you that it's not only size alone, but this wasn't the case here buddy LOL why is everybody always freaking out here when we just are talking about size or studies? Yes other things are important too, but everytime somebody asks about size, rationally, then lots of people here are telling that size isn't important (cwl)
But on the other hand everybody is always asking about 'what size do you have?' 'what are your starting stats' 'how much have you gained' 'which exercises bringing the best gains?' 'which devices should I use?'

This is double moral at it's best (confused)

Because if people wouldn't be interested in gaining size, they could just do some ED curing or EQ improving, taking the correct supplements and doing affirmations instead of doing PE.

Just ask yourself:
Why have you started with PE? Mostly because you wanted to improve yourself I guess?!
short definition of improving = becoming better than being before
So if you wanted to become better than where you had been, 'more size' equals 'improving' I guess

Voilà, here we go.

Another comparison:
It's like in a weightloss forum where people join to start discussing about weight loss methods, average weight and body fat percentage.

Then in the end when they are talking about statistics and if they are more attractive when not being obese, suddenly all people are telling in the end that it's not important if they are fat or not. Like by all means, I don't logically understand it :D


We don't want to make anyone feel bad about size, bodyfat percentage or whatever, this forum and we are here to help.
But in order to compare - we need statistics and studies :)
 
Holy hell. Can't even joke here when it comes to size worry and feelings of inadequacy. .. sheesh... untuck your junk fellas, and let your belly out.
 
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Maybe I'm on a different path elevation, but I am doing this for optimum penile health, and because I WOULD LIKE A BIGGER UNIT, for MYSELF. Not because I believe others will like it more. I couldn't give two shits what others prefer about me. Elevate to my level, and tie those worries to a helium filled balloon..... let go..
 
Holy hell. Can't even joke here when it comes to size worry and feelings of inadequacy. .. sheesh... untuck your junk fellas, and let your belly out.

Nothing personal bro :D But in my opinion it's 100 times better to compare and talk honestly in a forum than when somebody is reading around here, thinks that size doesn't matter, all is just unicorns and butterflies and then later in the week has sex with a woman or better to say - wants to have sex but then the girl starts laughing about how small his dick is or directly walks out of the room or has sex and then blocks this person. I don't know anybody personally where this happened, but in pe forums are some stories like this, even here on MoS.

So even if the truth and statistics sometimes may hurt and even if some people don't like me because of writing this, in my opinion it's still better to talk straight in the brotherhood and trying to help people instead of telling them that it doesn't matter.
Because I 100% believe that it will be much more pain in the ass for the guy if a girl/woman act like I've written above and the guy gets depressions or whatever.
 
Oh yes, it IS very important. I am in no way dismissing the subject. Just cracking some jokes, and people-watching, as they tend to get huffy and puffy over this topic.

As far as a girl laughing at a man and his body, WHILE in bed??? THROAT CHOP A BITCH!! ???
 
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Maybe I'm on a different path elevation, but I am doing this for optimum penile health, and because I WOULD LIKE A BIGGER UNIT, for MYSELF. Not because I believe others will like it more. I couldn't give two shits what others prefer about me. Elevate to my level, and tie those worries to a helium filled balloon..... let go..

Man most of us are completely average and will most likely never have a problem like this because of size, at least most of the MoS members.

But some people really had such horrific stories and became depressive or suicidal. And I really don't want that because we're writing that size doesn't matter people experience such things if we could have helped them before.
I want to help them before that kind of shit can even happen :) And once they understand that most people are completely average and things like that, they wouldn't even take that what the girl would/could say personally, because they know the truth and that could also give them a lot of more self-confidence.


Oh yes, it IS very important. I am in no way dismissing the subject. Just cracking some jokes, and people-watching, as they tend to get huffy and puffy over this topic.

As far as a girl laughing at a man and his body, WHILE in bed??? THROAT CHOP A BITCH!! ???

I know :D But as you know from your picture thread, there are lots of silent readers which maybe won't get the joke as they don't know you like our brotherhood does :D
 
It should matter to YOU more than others, is my point. All of this bigger is better talk, just hype with absolutely no substance. Word vomit, mouth diarrhea....
 
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so we have members here who are not doing the enlargement??/ thats certainly ok, the world still needs average dicks, and i respect them as men..thing is i used to be one of them....and yes, if you are 5=6 inches long most men that size will meet a histrionic bitch who will make a comment, but there will be a lot of girls whop say nothing. you can still fuck the shit out of a lady with a sub 6 inch Alex Sanders special, it just helps if your more like rocco siffidi
 
so we have members here who are not doing the enlargement??/ thats certainly ok, the world still needs average dicks, and i respect them as men..thing is i used to be one of them....and yes, if you are 5=6 inches long most men that size will meet a histrionic bitch who will make a comment, but there will be a lot of girls whop say nothing. you can still fuck the shit out of a lady with a sub 6 inch Alex Sanders special, it just helps if your more like rocco siffidi


There are many men who are here just to help support their brothers. These are the veterans that I’ve been here for years. I find this altruism is so incredible as they’re giving back what they have gained.
 
Well if the bitch left because she wanted more a way to prove her that she made a terrible mistake is making a adult entertainment n letting that bitch know who's the boss!! 8-) 8-) (xd)8-)\o/
 
There are many men who are here just to help support their brothers. These are the veterans that I’ve been here for years. I find this altruism is so incredible as they’re giving back what they have gained.
I think thats a good thing, its never good to shame people. As a teenager i had a dick that was basically 14 centimeters and i went basically mentally ill because i believed i was smaller than average, it wasnt until i went into the army that i saw that the other guys in there all looked like me with a few exceptions. i was a victim of the folk knowledge of the 6.5 to 7 inch penis being the most common, and i finally realized in my 20s that there was no way that was accurate. I enjoy the fact that there are those here to help with this and will do my part to help in any way
 
I think thats a good thing, its never good to shame people. As a teenager i had a dick that was basically 14 centimeters and i went basically mentally ill because i believed i was smaller than average, it wasnt until i went into the army that i saw that the other guys in there all looked like me with a few exceptions. i was a victim of the folk knowledge of the 6.5 to 7 inch penis being the most common, and i finally realized in my 20s that there was no way that was accurate. I enjoy the fact that there are those here to help with this and will do my part to help in any way

Story I’ve heard 100 times or more. This is a big reason I wrote the study quote is everything really what it seems” this brought much solace and peace to men who are suffering from penis dysmorphic disorder (I named it?)
 
Story I’ve heard 100 times or more. This is a big reason I wrote the study quote is everything really what it seems” this brought much solace and peace to men who are suffering from penis dysmorphic disorder (I named it?)
wonder if PDD is in most men minds? PE'ers well I have that I feel really small
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Length work first then Girth or both after that is optimal, because Girth Work first make it harder to gain Length? (movember)(drunk)
 
Length work first then Girth or both after that is optimal, because Girth Work first make it harder to gain Length? (movember)(drunk)

Many differing opinions on this but in my opinion going for one first then the other next smartest.
 
Are most guys say that are maybe 20lbs overweight, around 1 inch "bigger" bone-pressed vs non-bone-pressed?

I’m at 220 right now and I’m losing about 2 inches of length in my fat pad. At 140 I have no fat pad. However much you reduce the fatpad will be the new length you are.
 
I’m at 220 right now and I’m losing about 2 inches of length in my fat pad. At 140 I have no fat pad. However much you reduce the fatpad will be the new length you are.
Fat pad could be useful at certain point,half an inch of fat pad sounds ok..
 
So, if I were able to get rid of my fat pad, then I’d already be halfway to my length goal? Wow
while measuring the less fat pad the better, there's like an inch maybe more sometimes more besides stretching the inner penis out along Whit having a thin fat..

Both are key
 
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