ladylove said:
Like others have said it is the luck of the draw.

True, but I also want to note that I don't think that draw varies as much as people like to think. with all the research I have done on average size the deviation went from 5" to 6.5" with the majority falling into the middle somewhere. There are going to be freaks of nature either way (smaller or bigger than this scale) but I think it is safe for us to believe that average size is a relatively stable number.
 
channel7 said:
This is exactly what I am talking about. Now you are jumping on me. The person who wrote this thread wanted to know, ok.

So do not jump on me. If you see my previous thread I said it did not matter.

SHit

I aint jumpin on ya just posting my opinion in a thread thats all.

If I was referring to you I would have replied directly to your comment. No need to get all worked up.
 
BigCatLion said:
This is endless. On my original post on page 1, you guys should reread it, I meant Oriental Asians. Anyways, speaking of Columbians....when I was in Costa Rica, and by the way, Costa Rican women are beautiful...OMFG...just reminiscing. Anyways, I was leaving a public shower near the beach, I was walking in and there was this short ass...5'2'" walking out of the shower with a huge ass dick. I mean huge and thick. It looked like it was 7 x 6 flaccid. I stopped in my tracks and felt very insecure about taking a piss, let alone rinsing off. I accounted for his size and still the mother fucker was huge. I asked my Costa Rican buddy and he looked at me and said that he is Columbian.

I remember reading in the newspaper a few years back, that Spanish widows were looking for men in Cuba, because Cuban men were known to be well hung. And my buddy in the navy told me that Asian chicks dug Americans because we were bigger than the locals....referring to Thailand, Japan, and the Phillipines.

Please reread this statement and I would like to get some comments back on it:

Anyways, I have heard that all races are basically the same size, however, middle eastern men tend to be a tad bit bigger and asians seem to be a tad bit smaller. Black men and other men from warmer tropical climates tend to have a larger flaccid length, because the warmer climate allowed that while in the whites in northern climates, their flaccid length were much smaller, to keep the package warmer. However, when erected, everything pretty much equal out.
***Keep in mind, I am talking about 1000s of years of evolution and not a few generations worth.

And what others have said too, it is the luck of the draw. I do know that the more testosterone you have had in the womb, maybe depending on prenatal vitamins, diet, genetics, the larger the unit and the more chance of being gay. I read in the newspaper a couple of years back that gay men have larger units because they were exposed to more testosterone in the womb, which may influence their sexuality and helped to create a larger unit.

EXELLENT post man, makes alot of sense especially the part on warmer climates and longer flaccid size, than colder climates and smaller flaccid size.
 
BigCatLion said:
I remember reading in the newspaper a few years back, that Spanish widows were looking for men in Cuba, because Cuban men were known to be well hung. And my buddy in the navy told me that Asian chicks dug Americans because we were bigger than the locals....referring to Thailand, Japan, and the Phillipines.



I've dated many Asian women, and I have to tell you that this obssession with size is almost *entirely* a white male thing. I've dated many white women too, and most don't care too much for it, either. They just pretend they do, to make us feel insecure and wrapped around their finger emotionally (they like to toy with our egos/emoations). Most Asian chicks do not care that much about penis size - even less so than white or black chicks. This whole obssession with penis size is *entirely* a product of the social environment in America. I've lived in Europe and Asia too, and while they of course don't like tiny dicks ("tiny" in the normal sense - like under 4 inches - not in the mattersofsize.com sense where everyone thinks a 5-6 incher is "tiny"), they don't really focus so much on size like Americans do.



I'd hate to get racial on ya, but white American men are probably the most insecure when it comes to size. Sure Asian guys may be on average slightly smaller, but you don't see that many of them stressing over it. Asian chicks are the same way - they just don't give a fuck about that shit. They just live their lives, as they have more important things to worry about. It's mostly young white men that are shitting bricks, worring whether black men are larger than they are, and ridiculing other races of men who supposedly have smaller dicks than they do. :D



I'm here to enlarge my penis because I have natural male insecurities over it - none of it is race-based, unlike some of you twisted individuals. :D In addition my insecurities aren't quite as crippling as some of yours - if I couldn't Penis Enlargement ever again tommorrow I would be able to live a productive, happy life - I have a feeling that some of you here would just curl into a ball and sob for the rest of your lives, knowing that men elsewhere will be larger than you. :D I really do think that elements of this site and the members are psychologically unhealthy - some of you definately have mental disorders. I don't mean that in an offensive way - it's an observation.



That was my rant, thanks for reading. Now just shut up and worry about your OWN dick! Who gives a shit about some other dude's dick? I don't focken care how big a black guy is!
 
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Blu said:
I've dated many Asian women, and I have to tell you that this obssession with size is almost *entirely* a white male thing. I've dated many white women too, and most don't care too much for it, either. They just pretend they do, to make us feel insecure and wrapped around their finger emotionally (they like to toy with our egos/emoations). Most Asian chicks do not care that much about penis size - even less so than white or black chicks. This whole obssession with penis size is *entirely* a product of the social environment in America. I've lived in Europe and Asia too, and while they of course don't like tiny dicks ("tiny" in the normal sense - like under 4 inches - not in the mattersofsize.com sense where everyone thinks a 5-6 incher is "tiny"), they don't really focus so much on size like Americans do.



I'd hate to get racial on ya, but white American men are probably the most insecure when it comes to size. Sure Asian guys may be on average slightly smaller, but you don't see that many of them stressing over it. Asian chicks are the same way - they just don't give a fuck about that shit. They just live their lives, as they have more important things to worry about. It's mostly young white men that are shitting bricks, worring whether black men are larger than they are, and ridiculing other races of men who supposedly have smaller dicks than they do. :D



I'm here to enlarge my penis because I have natural male insecurities over it - none of it is race-based, unlike some of you twisted individuals. :D In addition my insecurities aren't quite as crippling as some of yours - if I couldn't Penis Enlargement ever again tommorrow I would be able to live a productive, happy life - I have a feeling that some of you here would just curl into a ball and sob for the rest of your lives, knowing that men elsewhere will be larger than you. :D I really do think that elements of this site and the members are psychologically unhealthy - some of you definately have mental disorders. I don't mean that in an offensive way - it's an observation.



That was my rant, thanks for reading. Now just shut up and worry about your OWN dick! Who gives a shit about some other dude's dick? I don't focken care how big a black guy is!


On the flip side of that, there is the black male with a smaller than average penis or even average penis, and he feels he has to measure up to the sterotype placed on him by other black males and american society in general.

And then there is the black male who has a huge ass dick and when in the locker rooms with white men, he makes jokes about there size.

Also there is the black male who when he sees a black woman with a white man he has to come up to the black woman and tell her that white men got small dicks and his dick is bigger than he boyfriends.

So no I don't think it mostly white american males who are caught up with there penis size, as far as asians go I don't really have any experience with frendships with that race to make a statment on that.
 
Blu said:
This whole obssession with penis size is *entirely* a product of the social environment in America.

I'll call a big BS on that one. Have you never seen any old/ancient phallic art? The big penises are always idolized in those paintings/sculptures and such. Sure, not every nude piece of art has a big dong, but the ones that are sexually focused are huge almost every time. It's an age-old obsession. A big penis has always symbolized power and virility and sexual prowess. Do you think it could possibly be because big penises make no difference? I think not. If nobody cared about big penises, there would be no issue today. Bigger really is better, up to a certain point of course. Ask any honest girl and she'll tell you straight up.
 
9cyclops9 said:
I'll call a big BS on that one. Have you never seen any old/ancient phallic art? The big penises are always idolized in those paintings/sculptures and such. Sure, not every nude piece of art has a big dong, but the ones that are sexually focused are huge almost every time. It's an age-old obsession. A big penis has always symbolized power and virility and sexual prowess. Do you think it could possibly be because big penises make no difference? I think not. If nobody cared about big penises, there would be no issue today. Bigger really is better, up to a certain point of course. Ask any honest girl and she'll tell you straight up.


I think most men, now and in history, were and are totally obsessed with their penis.
 
Look Ancient China. No need to psycho-analyze me or my post. ;)


In case you didn't notice, I put up smilies to let you all know that I was just giving you a friendly slap in the face to wake you up! :D The obssession with 'black size' and penis size in general here often approaches silly/unhealthy levels, and a post like mine is necessary every once in a while to jolt everyone out of their delusions. :) Ya feel me?



It was a simple post that kind of turned into a rant, because I find it slightly pathetic that you and others, a proud man, let things like penis size control your very existence. And I never said that penis-size obssession is *ALL* white-male based. Go re-read what I wrote. Other cultures and races pay attention to penis size, but it doesn't become their REASON TO LIVE. The *degree* of penis-size obssession isn't nearly comparable - that much is true. And by the way, I apologize if I inadvertantly slandered DLD. Sure he is obssessive about this thing, but I admire his taking the initiative to take something that he loves and making a living out of it. :) That's like the American Dream, albeit a bit of a weird and kinky version of it! :D



Anyway, I will still Penis Enlargement dilligently, but it's only for my own ego. It's never to compete with others. That's just immature.
 
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I think everyone is so brainwashed by the "black thing" that it might as well be true.

I'm ruined by the brainwashing too. If I meet a girl I really like and it turns out she had been with black dudes, I get disappointed and disinterested. For all I know they coulda been smaller than me, but it ain't bloody likely. This is in relation to dick size perspectives, NOT just cuz they're a different race. Besides, there are more things that set black people apart from white people than merely skin color...
 
kausion_420 said:
I aint jumpin on ya just posting my opinion in a thread thats all.

If I was referring to you I would have replied directly to your comment. No need to get all worked up.


Look I am sorry. I am going thru some stuff. I did not mean to jump on you.
 
BigCatLion said:
This is endless. On my original post on page 1, you guys should reread it, I meant Oriental Asians. Anyways, speaking of Columbians....when I was in Costa Rica, and by the way, Costa Rican women are beautiful...OMFG...just reminiscing. Anyways, I was leaving a public shower near the beach, I was walking in and there was this short ass...5'2'" walking out of the shower with a huge ass dick. I mean huge and thick. It looked like it was 7 x 6 flaccid. I stopped in my tracks and felt very insecure about taking a piss, let alone rinsing off. I accounted for his size and still the mother fucker was huge. I asked my Costa Rican buddy and he looked at me and said that he is Columbian.

I remember reading in the newspaper a few years back, that Spanish widows were looking for men in Cuba, because Cuban men were known to be well hung. And my buddy in the navy told me that Asian chicks dug Americans because we were bigger than the locals....referring to Thailand, Japan, and the Phillipines.

Please reread this statement and I would like to get some comments back on it:

Anyways, I have heard that all races are basically the same size, however, middle eastern men tend to be a tad bit bigger and asians seem to be a tad bit smaller. Black men and other men from warmer tropical climates tend to have a larger flaccid length, because the warmer climate allowed that while in the whites in northern climates, their flaccid length were much smaller, to keep the package warmer. However, when erected, everything pretty much equal out.
***Keep in mind, I am talking about 1000s of years of evolution and not a few generations worth.

And what others have said too, it is the luck of the draw. I do know that the more testosterone you have had in the womb, maybe depending on prenatal vitamins, diet, genetics, the larger the unit and the more chance of being gay. I read in the newspaper a couple of years back that gay men have larger units because they were exposed to more testosterone in the womb, which may influence their sexuality and helped to create a larger unit.


To a degree I can believe what you are saying. Only about the way it was long, long, long ago. They were much healthier long ago.
 
Look I have to say this I did not grow up with myth. My dick was small
6 inches None Erect Length, 4.5 was my girth, my flaccid was 3.5. I had a small dick. Was the myth true for me, "Hell No".

Now May 7, 2004, My None bone press is 8.5 inches, my girth is 6.25, my flaccid length is 6 1/4, and my bone press is 9.5 inches. My dick is longer, thicker and stronger. I am very, very, very happy.
 
Great post Channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now maybe those who worry about myth can get on with more important matters. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MATTERS of Size[/words]!!!!!
 
I just take comfort in the fact that I am bigger than at least 90% of all men regardless of race ;)
 
Godsize said:
I think everyone is so brainwashed by the "black thing" that it might as well be true.

I'm ruined by the brainwashing too. If I meet a girl I really like and it turns out she had been with black dudes, I get disappointed and disinterested. For all I know they coulda been smaller than me, but it ain't bloody likely. This is in relation to dick size perspectives, NOT just cuz they're a different race. Besides, there are more things that set black people apart from white people than merely skin color...



What if a girlfriend had had sex with an Asian man? And what if he was actually very hung? Would you feel worse, or would it not really affect you? If it doesn't affect you even though the hypothetical Asian man was hung, then it becomes clear by elimination [of possibilities] that your insecurities are not based on facts (basically, a man with a bigger penis, regardless of race) - but based on RACE, i.e. what the black man represents (e.g. hyper-masculinity). On the same note, if you don't care that your girl had had sex with an Asian man (regardless of his size), then the stereotype of the 'effeminate Asian man' is what is tiding your insecurities. Basically, you're suffering from hidden acquired racism that you've picked up from society. Yes - racism isn't always something personal - it's often stuff that you've picked up, and let it corrupt you. The image of the savage, perverted donkey-dick black male is one born out of sensationalist paranoia on the part of white men hundreds of years ago, and it's really damn stupid that you're buying into that shit after all those years.
 
bigbutnottoo said:
As I said, science is not moral and not racist. Only the behaviors irrationally applied to such studies are what create racism. Lets assume now that we have a cientific study that concludes the average size by race is 6.5 black, 6.0 white, 5.5 Asian. If I were to state that the average Asian is slightly shorter than the average white, this would be simply stating the results of a study. It would not be attaching a "stigma" or anything else. If I said " All Asian guys have tiny dicks under 6"- that would be a different story. The same has been done and used for racist reasons with IQs. If a study says the average IQ is lower for blacks, then that is only a finding, not a value judgment. But some people like to use these statistics to "prove" some kind of collective superiority ( which is a faslehood). These people are idiots and that's why you have white retards claiming they are superior to black geniuses. Ancient CHina already called you out on your self-contradictions. You are a pseudo-individualist cloaked in collectivist propaganda.

there's bad news and good news. the bad. anyone here read the infamous "bell curve", it came out in the 80's and raised a tempest over nothing.

The book was about a huge statistical study about intelligence and one of its breakdown was racial. black, white, asian. The bad news that the media focussed on and went nuts over. there is a statistical difference. over a 200 point scale the difference was about 1.5 points from asian to black with white in the middle.

the funny thing is, statistically, this is meaningless. but everyone went crazy over it and some govt.s actually banned the book. Now for an interpretation of the book from someone who understands statistics. there is no racial difference. take any individual and what they ate that morning will make more of a difference than what they were born with.

the bad news is that now there is no excuses, YOU make out of your life what you will. good news, it's all up to you. bad news, it's all up to you.

i will finish with a quote from Reagan, one of our flawed but great presidents.

a boy was told to shovel horse manure from a large room. when the owner came back the boy was happily shoveling away. The owner asked the boy why he was so happy. the boy replied "with all this manure, there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!"

Just remember guys and gals, this is the country of opportunity and "it's always morning in America"

fiddler
 
GhosT_DoGG said:
cool fiddler, never heard of that study "bell curve"...
how did america become so brainwashed?

Simple. Most people do not research beyond what they are fed through the media so their opinions are forged in half truths and selective information. Everyone in a position of influence has an agenda.
 
fiddler said:
the funny thing is, statistically, this is meaningless. but everyone went crazy over it and some govt.s actually banned the book. Now for an interpretation of the book from someone who understands statistics. there is no racial difference. take any individual and what they ate that morning will make more of a difference than what they were born with.

Another point that makes it irrelevant is this:
The variance within any given "race" is just as wide as any variance between separate races.
 
Definaltley an excellent read. I hope one day all the stereotypes are erased and all humans realize that they should learn to accept one another. According to certain scientists all human's evolved from African bloodlines.
 
I agree with the last post dld wrote....a lot of people black, white, asian, european...get their info from where....t.v. news...radio...which is all controlled outlets...like this artilcle which actually started by talking about blacks not visiting adult entertainment shops and using dildo....it was one reporter going to one shop and wrote one article...i'm black and majority of my friends are and we all have toys...all our women love toys....it's not that we can't satisfy them but we all experiment with different things...i think it's fun to pull out props and gadgets, oils, foods,..all for the sake of having a good time....my girl cums everytime we fuck...now i do realize that me and my friends are a lot different than some people what some consider taboo or nasty we consider fun...what is the point of having sex if you can't completely enjoy yourself...i do know that their is nothing like the real thing...and nothing compares to a stiff dick..but hey using toys can be fun...and i for one am not scared to walk in any shop to get movies, toys or any other material that is going to get me and my girl off...100
 
i also enjoyed reading the debate on racism...it is funny to hear people talk about this subject...cuz i am sure almost everyone here one point in their life was mistreated because of the color of their skin or ethnicity...we take those occasion and form views as a whole...which isn't right...i hear people say i'm not racist..i like blacks....or i have black friends..why can't they just be friends..hopefully we all have friends or aquantances of other races and religions...to broaden our views and perspectives.

like most inner cities i grew up around mostly blacks...but we had all kinds in the neighborhood....my bestfriend of 11 years and now girlfriend is a beautiful albanian woman...she grew up on the same block as me...dealt with the same struggles growing up...just like the asian cats from my block.and peurto ricans...and especially the haitians..we grew up together not fighting....for what we was all in the same shit....the whole nigger or nigga...whatever you want to use was a frequent word we all used as we grew up...i never took offense to this hearing it from the people i grew up with...cuz i knew it was not out of hatred or spite...or meant to be dearogatory...they grew up just like me...we called each other that...don't get me wrong someone outside my circle saying would not be tolerated...hey that is just the way of the world...i'm sure everyone crew is like that....but i feel many people that posted have valid points....long story short we all got it hard...we all know struggle..regardless what race....they are going to be people always in the grind and they are going to be priveledged people...this is not based on race....yeah i know minorities (all included) had a slow start coming out the gate..but they are slowly but surely closing the gaps...that is the ones that want too....we are in the land of opportunity....i came up out the 'jects....i am in college...after here i'm going to grad school...our system is still fucked up...but it is been liked that since our first president and honestly is a slow changing process....but as long you we honor our mother and father...be good to one another...take care of our kids...hey everything else will fall into place...out
 
Ok, a long the lines of this whole satisfying women thing and black men. Here is another one it would be interesting to hear some comments on. And that is black men and performing oral sex on women. The reason I bring this up is that many times I have read or heard black men say that eating pussy is something a "faggot" does. ( interesting since I thought male on female was a heterosexual act).

This relates to this topic, because from what I infer from these comments: It is implying that it is only "manly" to fuck a women ( by penetrating vaginally) and I guess somehow needing to stimulate her orally means you are small or cant fuck or something. Now I must admit most of my black friends do eat pussy and a lot of the anti-pussy talk is stuff people write on message boards etc.

This actually came from the Sex Issue of a magazine ( I think XXL, but not sure) where many rappers talked about their sex practices ( some even admitted to not having huge dicks or just being medium or not "ponr size" etc, kinda candid and refreshing).. But all these people on a hip hop message board I frequent ( allhiphop) were saying things like " I cant believe so and so admitting to eating pussy.. and he is just a pussy eating faggot"... Same people also got way otu of line when Usher said a girl had stuck her finger in his ass. I posted something about how its not that big a deal and that it happens , and its not like he got a dick or a strapon up his ass, then all these people said I was a faggot who got fucked by women ( again notice the contradiction) and their message board was "homo free in 2004" and that I would get banned for being a faggot as they put it.

So the reason I bring this up is this is a viewpoint I have seen from some predominently black groups of people and I guess this relates to the whole "Mandingo COmplex" Any thoughts?
 
I think that to "them", eating pussy is seen as subservient. Just like when a "bitch" or a "ho" "gives them some brain". They see oral as the suck-er being lower in status than the suck-ee.

Going "downtown" is something a woman does, and no "real" man goes downtown.

Then again, who knows?? Maybe the chicks these guys know have really nasty, stinkin' pussies.
 
Would you guys stop using hip hop culture, hiphip language, and rappers as representatives of black people. Damn man, people kill me with that. You think some article in XXL or some rapper saying "bitch gave me some brain" is what black people really think. That's like quoting some heavy metal band and saying" all white guys think this" because such and such said it.

SOme of you guys listen to a little bit of rap music and think that you now know black culture and its not the case. Rap music and black thought is mutually exclusive.

People are so fixated on race in this country it is just proposterous some of the conclusions that are drawn solely because of skin color.
 
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I know. I wasn't making a statement about the genesis of rock and roll. I was drawing a parellel between the current artistry bases of both genres.
 
twins172_up said:
i also enjoyed reading the debate on racism...it is funny to hear people talk about this subject...cuz i am sure almost everyone here one point in their life was mistreated because of the color of their skin or ethnicity...we take those occasion and form views as a whole...which isn't right...i hear people say i'm not racist..i like blacks....or i have black friends..why can't they just be friends..hopefully we all have friends or aquantances of other races and religions...to broaden our views and perspectives.

like most inner cities i grew up around mostly blacks...but we had all kinds in the neighborhood....my bestfriend of 11 years and now girlfriend is a beautiful albanian woman...she grew up on the same block as me...dealt with the same struggles growing up...just like the asian cats from my block.and peurto ricans...and especially the haitians..we grew up together not fighting....for what we was all in the same shit....the whole nigger or nigga...whatever you want to use was a frequent word we all used as we grew up...i never took offense to this hearing it from the people i grew up with...cuz i knew it was not out of hatred or spite...or meant to be dearogatory...they grew up just like me...we called each other that...don't get me wrong someone outside my circle saying would not be tolerated...hey that is just the way of the world...i'm sure everyone crew is like that....but i feel many people that posted have valid points....long story short we all got it hard...we all know struggle..regardless what race....they are going to be people always in the grind and they are going to be priveledged people...this is not based on race....yeah i know minorities (all included) had a slow start coming out the gate..but they are slowly but surely closing the gaps...that is the ones that want too....we are in the land of opportunity....i came up out the 'jects....i am in college...after here i'm going to grad school...our system is still fucked up...but it is been liked that since our first president and honestly is a slow changing process....but as long you we honor our mother and father...be good to one another...take care of our kids...hey everything else will fall into place...out
I like what you got to say, i think you are right.

Well my life didnt start so good, my father became an alcoholic and was very evil. So my momma and i had to move, to my grandma. Later to a suburb, and she got a boyfriend who was good in the beginning but later he became satan himself. Because one day when my ant and my mom and me were home. He came into the appartment building, and he smashed holes in the wooden door with a crowbar. He almost made it, if it hadnt been for some neighbours getting him out of there. Who knows what could of happend otherwise...
So the start wasnt so good, well it maybe isnt as bad as for others. But my momma made the best of the situation. when i was like 8-10years old i stole a purse and things for about $150. Not so much, i know. Then in the same years i stole for $500, video games and such. I never figured out why i started, it was so easy. My friends and i liked to destroy things outside aslo... Then i just stopped, i dont know why either, but it was good because i could have been some other person then i am today.
To be honest i miss being criminal :/ Everyday i think of stealing cars and such. But i never do it.

This aint nothing compared to others, in america its probably alot more, because of the size and the condition there.
Many have also lived that flavless wonderfull life with both parents to, but i havent. Dont know how that is, im yellous about folks that have.

Well now this thread wasnt about me... :D
 
Eating pussy is considered faggotry? When is it going to stop? Prejudice idea's do no good and I honestly think that people who do such vile acts only do so to temporarily make themselves feel better.
 
Bigbutnottoo,

First, I don't think I pointed out anyone in particular. Second: I didn't call anyone racist...you are drawing unjust conclusions. My point is very simple..there are alot of references in this thread quoting rap songs and rappers and using those references as protocols for what black people think: This is a major misjudgement of a reference point. That is my point. Whether you have black friends or they come to you in particular for opinions on black music is a completely different matter which I am totallay indifferent. Again my point was simple and unilateral towards anyone making the claim...Hiphop doesn't represent black culture.
 
goingdeeper said:
Bigbutnottoo,

First, I don't think I pointed out anyone in particular. Second: I didn't call anyone racist...you are drawing unjust conclusions. My point is very simple..there are alot of references in this thread quoting rap songs and rappers and using those references as protocols for what black people think: This is a major misjudgement of a reference point. That is my point. Whether you have black friends or they come to you in particular for opinions on black music is a completely different matter which I am totallay indifferent. Again my point was simple and unilateral towards anyone making the claim...Hiphop doesn't represent black culture.

It's cool. I took it personal because you didn't name any names, but I was the one who was writing about the subject. Your point is accepted.
 
now i can't speak for every black male in the world...and i never would try but for this one...my first sexual experience was going down on a girl...before i knew what i was doing i was eating chicks out....and i will admit i did get into the anal game in my mid twenties but have enjoyed that as well....i don't expect every guy regardless of his ethnicity or nationality to be candid about what they are into....i think a lot of it has to deal with the fact that society makes us feel guilty or embarrassed about some pleasures we may partake in....like i said i can't hold the whole race on my shoulders...but for this man right here...i find that majority of the stereotypes about us are false
 
twins172_up said:
now i can't speak for every black male in the world...and i never would try but for this one...my first sexual experience was going down on a girl...before i knew what i was doing i was eating chicks out....and i will admit i did get into the anal game in my mid twenties but have enjoyed that as well....i don't expect every guy regardless of his ethnicity or nationality to be candid about what they are into....i think a lot of it has to deal with the fact that society makes us feel guilty or embarrassed about some pleasures we may partake in....like i said i can't hold the whole race on my shoulders...but for this man right here...i find that majority of the stereotypes about us are false


I appreciate your post. I also think you make a good point about people not being candid about what all they do or are into. I can understand also that people may tend to put on a front to come off a certain way, when privately they act differently. This of course applies to all races. As I said before, most of my black friends do talk about eating pussy,etc. My post was brought up more because some of these stereotypes just keep popping up and are things I keep hearing, so i was looking for some input. I do think however, there is a broad spectrum of experience/attitudes in any race. For example, among black males I know some that prefer to date white females and others that would never be with any one other than a black woman ( I was also a little surprised people like 50 cent had never been with a white woman, considering the availability of groupies,etc). There are different factors concerning sexual behavior, I think even including environment, location ( regional), etc.
 
Xulf said:
Definitely a good read, thanks DLD

I can see what he is talking about though. For me, there is no way I would buy my girlfriend a sex vibrator/dildo, I know others disagree with me and find that they enhance sex and all that. But "I" want to be the one to satisfy her and I would feel inadequate if she had to use a device.

Well maybe I would buy her a small one so should would appreciate my size more:P (but definitely not anything bigger)
I didn't read the article or much of this thread. I just wanted to comment on this from a woman's perspective. NOTHING....I mean NOTHING can come close to the feeling of a hard, warm cock. A 6" penis feels 100% better than a 9" dildo. It's not just the feeling of having our pussy stretched, it is the whole man. Smelling his scent, feeling his hot skin, dripping sweat on us, the way he moves. It's like a joke to compare the two.
 
but AC is still out of town and I didn't get the infamous "get on AIM" from Supra last night, so for now I am CTM's chick :love: :angel:
 
AC'sGirl said:
but AC is still out of town and I didn't get the infamous "get on AIM" from Supra last night, so for now I am CTM's chick :love: :angel:
AH,ah,ah,ah,ah,ah,ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Phew that was great!! Best I had in while!
 
ctmwm said:
AH,ah,ah,ah,ah,ah,ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Phew that was great!! Best I had in while!

I just learned that new trick. Tonight I am going to try something on you with honey, a 40 Watt light bulb, and blue glitter.
 
AC'sGirl said:
I just learned that new trick. Tonight I am going to try something on you with honey, a 40 Watt light bulb, and blue glitter.

How did it go?
 
As a White person who went to a school that was 50% white, 50 % black I think I have alot of insight into this topic.

1. Blacks are not born with more athletic ability, however they ARE born with a better chance of having more muscle mass and a better muscle to fat ratio, thus why they are poor swimmers, and often good runners/ athletes.

2. Yes, we all know that in the past you were slaves, we don't need to be reminded every 15 minutes. However, your own tribesmen in Africa are the ones who sold you in the first place, I don't see many blacks blaming them though.

3. (and this is obviously a stereotype) instead of always complaining about how you were treated in the past, and using that as a crutch, you could take advantage of all the opportunities you are being given in the present, this would make the recovery time alot shorter.

4. I would just like to say this right now. I have lots of black friends, they can be some cool people. I have come to understand the differences in culture between blacks and whites. However some blacks have chosen to embrace a culture filled with Hate, that is certainly not conducive to racial equality.

5. Despite what many people think, if you are black, and you get fired, it wasn't necessarily because you are black. Stop using the race card as a crutch and things will become a lot less tense when it comes to racism.

6. I cannot tell you how many times I have been racially slured against by blacks, without prompt or reason. Yet, we are suddenly racist if we retaliate. Does this seem fair?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that while the black race has been given the opportunity to excel in the world and gain the racial equality they have wanted, they have yet to man up, and actually take the responsibility that this opportunity entails. Instead they continue to PROMOTE racial differences, and can always fall back on how they were treated in the past.

(this of course is a generalization, and while I feel this is the sentiment and actions of a particular culture in its entirety, I do feel that individuals should be judged on their own account, and do so accordingly. If you prove to me that you are a decent individual that has the intelligence to cast aside the past, take responsibility for your own actions, look toward the future, and likewise judge others upon their own accord, I will treat you with respect. Z03 has not showed me this. While claiming that blacks are the target of racism he mindlessly makes racially motivated comments against others, he further chooses to ignore all opportunities given to blacks at the moment, and concentrate on what has happened in the past. I am truley sorry for the way my fore fathers acted, but there weight is not on my shoulders, and retributions have been given, so move on and take responsibility for your own life.)
 
*edit- Also, for what the thread is actually saying. This thread start is pretty dead on. In most clinical studies measuring penis size, it has been documented that Blacks don't have an average larger penis than whites. While it is founded that Asians do have a slightly smaller average penis size, for the most part the averages are even. To explain why it seems like blacks have bigger penises in adult entertainment, I think we need to look at culture, not physical attributes. I know there are plenty of white guys with very large penises, but due to our cultural stance on pornography, are not in the industry. This obviously will make the average length of a white male adult entertainment start drop. If you don't believe me on the averages, go find out for yourself.
 
Frankily, there are many female pornstars in the industry that just won't do scenes with black males. I know Taylor Rain, for one, says her father hates them ( i got this on the HOward Stern show), and so she doesn't do scenes with them. For black males to enter the adult film industry, which is horribly difficult for males alone, being black makes it worse. Therefore, you will only see black men with very large penises, b/c that is how the adult film industry gears its adult entertainment. Large penises filling petite women. Many people have no interest in interrracial adult entertainment, while most of the demand lies in regular adult entertainment. So for african-american males to appeal to the adult entertainment industry, they need to appeal greatly to the directors. That appeal lies in penis size, an extremly large penis size.
 
Wannabelarge99 said:
As a White person who went to a school that was 50% white, 50 % black I think I have alot of insight into this topic.

1. Blacks are not born with more athletic ability, however they ARE born with a better chance of having more muscle mass and a better muscle to fat ratio, thus why they are poor swimmers, and often good runners/ athletes.

2. Yes, we all know that in the past you were slaves, we don't need to be reminded every 15 minutes. However, your own tribesmen in Africa are the ones who sold you in the first place, I don't see many blacks blaming them though.


3. (and this is obviously a stereotype) instead of always complaining about how you were treated in the past, and using that as a crutch, you could take advantage of all the opportunities you are being given in the present, this would make the recovery time alot shorter.


4. I would just like to say this right now. I have lots of black friends, they can be some cool people. I have come to understand the differences in culture between blacks and whites. However some blacks have chosen to embrace a culture filled with Hate, that is certainly not conducive to racial equality.

5. Despite what many people think, if you are black, and you get fired, it wasn't necessarily because you are black. Stop using the race card as a crutch and things will become a lot less tense when it comes to racism.

6. I cannot tell you how many times I have been racially slured against by blacks, without prompt or reason. Yet, we are suddenly racist if we retaliate. Does this seem fair?

Basically what I'm trying to say is that while the black race has been given the opportunity to excel in the world and gain the racial equality they have wanted, they have yet to man up, and actually take the responsibility that this opportunity entails. Instead they continue to PROMOTE racial differences, and can always fall back on how they were treated in the past.

(this of course is a generalization, and while I feel this is the sentiment and actions of a particular culture in its entirety, I do feel that individuals should be judged on their own account, and do so accordingly. If you prove to me that you are a decent individual that has the intelligence to cast aside the past, take responsibility for your own actions, look toward the future, and likewise judge others upon their own accord, I will treat you with respect. Z03 has not showed me this. While claiming that blacks are the target of racism he mindlessly makes racially motivated comments against others, he further chooses to ignore all opportunities given to blacks at the moment, and concentrate on what has happened in the past. I am truley sorry for the way my fore fathers acted, but there weight is not on my shoulders, and retributions have been given, so move on and take responsibility for your own life.)

Yes everyone knows how long ago slavery ended but it was only 40 yrs when desegregation ended...in your parents lifetime. It's only been 40 yrs when blacks and women had the right to vote, go to the schools of there choice, use public facilities...etc. By your statements you make it seem like every african american plays the race card which is not true at all. again generalizing blacks in one category..that's like saying all white people belong or believe in what the KKK is about no they are also a minority. & when you speak of your "black friends" and they can be some cool people...do you look at your "white friends" in the same way...i don't think so people is people...
yes our cultures are different but demographics plays a major role in how a person acts and behaves..where, how and resources people have available can determine what type of person you are....and People hate...hate knows no color....just as easily a black person adapt to hatred any other race can easily do the same...check out what is going on overseas right now...now honestly i do realize it is a double standard when it come to racial slurs...a caucasion person calling a african american a "nigger" yes all hell is going to break loose but if it was the other way around....it is suppose to just be shrugged off...I don't think that is right...whooever dish it should be able to take it...ever hear the saying about walking a mile in another man shoes...i don't know what it means to be white...i'm not going to even try...but in the same breath you can't really know what it is to be black...some of us still carry around a lot of hurt and frustration because although the "playing field" is starting to be level out...it is not equal by a long shot...they are some words that is just hurtful...i don't think there is a word out the that holds as much hatred and contempt as the word nigger...well at least nothing you can call a white person...other races have equally hateful words i would admit...

your last paragraph makes a lot of sense..i don't know who Z03 is...but he can not and doesn't speak for a whole race...it is difficult to judge on an individual basis because of our surroundings...t.v., media, even the music we listen to give us preconcieved notions about people. a lot of negative undertone flows through these channels and if not careful you can pick them up and not even know it....you have nothing to apologize about either....what happened in the past was not by your doing...as long as you try to live your life the way you say and deal with people as individuals and get to know someone before you judge there character your doing your part....i enjoyed reading your commentary....feel free to respond back...
 
twins172_up, i really like what you are saying on this.

Every man, woman or child is one different individual. No-mather what the tone of their skin they are.
Yes, some black men can be very bad, but there as many white men who can be as bad too. So i really like your oppinion on this, i think Wannabelarge99 dragged everybody over the same edge on the same cliff.

When i was younger i didn't have any white friends. The friends i had were from africa, arabia, iran, turkey. My best friends name was Lawrence and his family was from gambia, that dude could never be meen. He was the kindest person who ever existed i can tell you, everybody in his family were the nicest. He was friend with so many people on the block so i cant even count. I miss having a friend like him. Why i say was/had and such is for i have moved, so it was a long time ago i met them.

So in my life, black people and foreign people have been the best friends i can think of, havent met any white that can live up to those goals.

Im white, so i make that clear. If any of you didnt get that.

Some things i have wondered about for a while is;
If opening a dictionary and look up the words black and white in any language,
black stands for evil, and white for pure?

And why is there so many bad/neglecting words about the black man and woman, but barely none for the white man and white woman?
 
I haven't read the entire thread but it seems like an interesting topic so I'll throw in a few ideas.

Regardless of how long ago actual slavery ended the impact of slavery and the mindset that allows slavery based on skin color to occur has not completely died off.

I mean look at certain areas in the USA within the last hundred years and you will see cases where black men and women have been killed simply because they are black and in the wrong place at the wrong time. That was not even too long ago. We're talking about a time frame where if you were black you could have your grandparents telling you stories about what has happened. I was lucky enough to attend a lecture by Maya Angelou and she talked about her childhood and some of the racial bigotry that she encountered and it was eye opening. And we are not even talking about racial profiling and other negative stereotypes that still occur and all have a detrimental effect on individuals. And as twins pointed out the Civil Rights movement was only 40 years ago...40 years is a drop in the bucket. Do you really think that in 40 years all the damage that could be done has already been completely resolved???? C'mon...

Racial stereotypes and derogatory terms are destructive and automatically place the people they are used against in an inferior position to the person making the comments.

I remember Richard Pryor (best comedian ever) had a funny bit where he was talking about getting into an argument or fight with a guy MAN to MAN and then being called the N word and being like..."Shit" and all depressed. It is a charged word with a negative meaning and I think that rappers and other idiots who use the term are stupid but may be trying to turn the word around so that its impact is reduced.

Sure...in the end everyone is responsible for their own lives and behaviors but it is incorrect to assume that everyone is on equal ground.

Ok ok enough...back to Penis Enlargement....
 
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