thanks eyeknot Your right well i shall wait and see. I am just confused as to how a guy with 10 inches can fit it in an 8 inch tube. Looool have the inventors miscalculated the measurements? The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is used at full erection right? if so then you can see why im confused........ I might sound an idiot but ive never used a pump of any kind before.