So would a variation of this go something like:

Clamp with your left hand at the base. Now, with your right hand, jelq up and curve your penis to the left.
Clamp with your right hand at the base. Now, with your left hand, jelq up and curve your penis to the right.

I have done exercises like that and it is just amazing.

I like squashing though, it blows the penis up good. ;)
 
For all of those people out there that are not sure or dont do this exercise.

I litterally just did my first SSJ session about 10 min ago and DAMN! I've never done these before and let me say that I am in love with them. I only did a 20min session and my reps were not even all that long( longest was about 1min rest were like 30 sec long) Every time I released my grip after a rep my penis was redish purple! I have not gotten anything like that since I started Penis Enlargement. Same goes with the red spots you get. I never get red spots even if I do intense girth workouts. But after doing just 1 rep I had some big red dots.
My penis is flacid right now and still have a huge girth pump. I am 4.85 in erect girth and right now after the session, FLACID I'm at 5.25 in girth

I can not wait till my hands get strong enough that I can do 2-3min reps.

I think everybody should do this exercise its the best.
 
Hmmm...I've done these as part of a constant routine for months at a time and never did I get to 2-3 minutes per rep. I felt like if my hands could handle the sort of pressure that this exercise requires then I would only last 30-45 seconds at most. This exercise creates a ton of internal pressure, so if you get enough blood into the penis initially then when you press onto the head all of the tension should be directed towards the center of the penis. This increase should cause the grip to fail fairly quickly because the pressure is focused from both hands and you then want to maintain that high level of tension between the hands, so it's almost like doubling the pressure in between the hands. Realistically I think one only needs 5-10 reps of the SSJ and that's about it for a productive girth workout, maybe going into the clamp for a bit afterwards for some supplementary work but I'd think that you'd about had it after the SSJs anyway.
 
Hmmm...I've done these as part of a constant routine for months at a time and never did I get to 2-3 minutes per rep. I felt like if my hands could handle the sort of pressure that this exercise requires then I would only last 30-45 seconds at most. This exercise creates a ton of internal pressure, so if you get enough blood into the penis initially then when you press onto the head all of the tension should be directed towards the center of the penis. This increase should cause the grip to fail fairly quickly because the pressure is focused from both hands and you then want to maintain that high level of tension between the hands, so it's almost like doubling the pressure in between the hands. Realistically I think one only needs 5-10 reps of the SSJ and that's about it for a productive girth workout, maybe going into the clamp for a bit afterwards for some supplementary work but I'd think that you'd about had it after the SSJs anyway.
 
Just tried these out. Let me just say that they are awesome! I'm definetly going to incorporate these into my routine.
 
Kal-el said:
Just tried these out. Let me just say that they are awesome! I'm definetly going to incorporate these into my routine.


I am happy they are finally catching on:)
 
I tried SSJ for the first time tonight and i can say that i've never seen all my penis purple like that (glans remains the same). I have only some questions :) :

1)How many rep. i have to do?
2)How much time a repetition needs (20,30 sec???)
3)Is this beneficial also for the glans?
4)Should i press the glans downwards or like squeeze against the other hand (tonight i did the second)
5)Can i do a SSJG?:) instead of the grip at the base, grip at the bottom of the glans then with other hands, normal ssj. what do you think?

Thanks
 
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Ya guys who love these, should really try clamped wall presses! :cool: It's like these, but no need for a hand cus the clamp keeps you clamped off at the base.
 
these have provided the best girth workout i have gotten so far other than the supra slammer, the visualization of trying to make the wrist size equal your shaft is also fantastic while doing it
 
stillwantmore2 said:
Ya guys who love these, should really try clamped wall presses! :cool: It's like these, but no need for a hand cus the clamp keeps you clamped off at the base.

Yea those are basically the same. But it's hard for me to do them as I have a slight curve to one side, so no hands are basically out of the question IF I wish to solvent the curve.
 
Guess I'll chime in too. I'm new to this site but I've been consistantly Penis Enlargement-ing for almost 3 yrs now.

I did a set of erect bends down, up and side as part of my normal girth routine and then I thought I'd experiment with one of these.

At first when I started the ssj the pressure was surprisingly intense, I was shocked so I backed off a bit.
I did a 1 min rep and afterwards my unit was so full of blood it was so spongy that I didn't touch it for about 20 seconds to let everything mellow out.

I think maybe a helpful thing for me is to start the squash slow and stop until the pressure subsides as you lose the erection and then compensate by squashing more to the clamped area as the erection allows.
 
When I was using the SSJ as my primary girth exercise I found that anymore than 2-3 reps was overkill and that most of the "expansion" was from fluid secretions of the tunica. This exercise is utilizes an enormous amount of internal pressure and it causes small tears in the tunica, which can lead to hardening and even peryiones, which is why there is so much fluid buildup so quickly. Keep the volume low and work fairly intensely and you'll see great results with this exercise.
 
millionman;288835 said:
When I was using the SSJ as my primary girth exercise I found that anymore than 2-3 reps was overkill and that most of the "expansion" was from fluid secretions of the tunica. This exercise is utilizes an enormous amount of internal pressure and it causes small tears in the tunica, which can lead to hardening and even peryiones, which is why there is so much fluid buildup so quickly. Keep the volume low and work fairly intensely and you'll see great results with this exercise.

Yes, after only 1 rep I had fluid built up under my glans that used to happen only after a long girth workout. I haven't had that fluid for some time and I was quite surprised indeed.
So it's best as DLD says to grab the glans and squeeze out some of the blood before clamping at the base after the Uli.

So I have a general question regarding edema. If edema does happen does this mean in every instance the tunica is being damaged?

anth
 
millionman;288835 said:
This exercise is utilizes an enormous amount of internal pressure and it causes small tears in the tunica, which can lead to hardening and even peryiones, which is why there is so much fluid buildup so quickly.

This is an unfounded statement and should have a I.M.O. connected to it.
 
DLD, Unfounded? You should explain your position a little bit better than to make a one sentence statement and leave it at that. You above all others here should know that your voice carries very loudly and when you make short abbreviated statements like the one above you leave a TON of room for interpretation.

My statement is accurate based on the information that I've gathered on the make up of the tunica and the type of internal pressure that this exercise creates.
 
millionman;289060 said:
DLD, Unfounded? You should explain your position a little bit better than to make a one sentence statement and leave it at that. You above all others here should know that your voice carries very loudly and when you make short abbreviated statements like the one above you leave a TON of room for interpretation.

My statement is accurate based on the information that I've gathered on the make up of the tunica and the type of internal pressure that this exercise creates.


No interpretation necessary, the question is very clear. How are you able to determine that damage to the tunica is happening?
 
I've done a lot of crazy stuff in my Penis Enlargement career, no question. But I don't see how you can get the bent dick syndrome from doing a intense girth exercise.

To me clamping my dick for hours on end should have done it if anything could. I used to ADC a much as I could. I would ADC for hours on end, pump hours on end, and swing 15lbs from my cock hours on end, but I only have experienced loss of erection for the moment. But the next day bam, hardcore erection. My dick has become more evened out since all of my Penis Enlargement experience. I still have a small left curve, just because my chambers are different sized. I had that before Penis Enlargement. Since I started my chambers have evened out a lot and my cock looks a lot more cemetrical.

I don't see how SSJ's could cause this unless your grip is all lopsided.
 
Alright, I came to this conclusion because of two things. One is the tunica is made up of a semi-tough ET that, when under pressure, expands but only to a certain degree. Two this exercise causes expansion but then it pushes past the expansion point causing tears. This is not the case with some other girth movements as they only rely on a single hand or the pressure from the dual hand is not as high. With this movement the dual jelq portion acts as a prying force internally, because you are squeezing both hands down and up towards each other as well as rolling the pressure around. The fibers of the tunica expand and then SMALL tears start to occur leaking fluid, as well as blood plasma that causes staining. I'm not concluding that this exercise is bad or that it doesn't work. I am stating, quite clearly, that doing more than a few of these goes beyond what is necessary to grow and ultimately that's what we're all here to do.

This idea was born out of research, personal experience, and application of the forces involved during the exercise. I will throw in the fact that I have extremely strong hands and forearms and that there are times I have used entirely too much force. That's one of the biggest reasons that I started to explore girth exercises and how to gain without going beyond the necessary expansion into injury.

Crazyed, Peyronie's disease is a connective tissue disorder involving the growth of fibrous plaques[1] in the soft tissue of the penis affecting as many as 1-4% of men. Specifically the fibrosing process occurs in the tunica albuginea, a fibrous envelope surrounding the penile corpora cavernosa.

If overtime the penis is consistently injured the body will consistently try to heal itself. Similar to sediment buildup in a river the tissue thickens and can eventually be significant enough that peyronie's disease occurs.
 
millionman;289088 said:
Alright, I came to this conclusion because of two things. One is the tunica is made up of a semi-tough ET that, when under pressure, expands but only to a certain degree. Two this exercise causes expansion but then it pushes past the expansion point causing tears. This is not the case with some other girth movements as they only rely on a single hand or the pressure from the dual hand is not as high. With this movement the dual jelq portion acts as a prying force internally, because you are squeezing both hands down and up towards each other as well as rolling the pressure around. The fibers of the tunica expand and then SMALL tears start to occur leaking fluid, as well as blood plasma that causes staining. I'm not concluding that this exercise is bad or that it doesn't work. I am stating, quite clearly, that doing more than a few of these goes beyond what is necessary to grow and ultimately that's what we're all here to do.

This idea was born out of research, personal experience, and application of the forces involved during the exercise. I will throw in the fact that I have extremely strong hands and forearms and that there are times I have used entirely too much force. That's one of the biggest reasons that I started to explore girth exercises and how to gain without going beyond the necessary expansion into injury.

Crazyed, Peyronie's disease is a connective tissue disorder involving the growth of fibrous plaques[1] in the soft tissue of the penis affecting as many as 1-4% of men. Specifically the fibrosing process occurs in the tunica albuginea, a fibrous envelope surrounding the penile corpora cavernosa.

If overtime the penis is consistently injured the body will consistently try to heal itself. Similar to sediment buildup in a river the tissue thickens and can eventually be significant enough that peyronie's disease occurs.

Ever since I read about Supra's injury I've been a bit concerned about Peyronies disease because I for one like intense girth routines.

In my cursory study it seems that damage to the corpora cavernosa that would cause Peyronies would be immediate and not accumulative over time.

I was wondering if you could direct me to any info that would refute that if you don't mind. I'm not being argumentive in the least. I just need to be sure.

Also it has been my understanding that some edema from girth routines was not a bad thing. If I am understanding what you are saying in essence any edema is not good because fluid build up is from the tearing of the tunica.

Is this accurate?

Thanks,
anth
 
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