doublelongdaddy;387252 said:
true true

You see mate, I want more than anything the companionship and closeness than the sex! May make me sound old, I'm only 26 but that tight emotional bond you get with a partner is something I crave more than anything else ... more than sex actually. The sex is just fucking sex to me, unless your in love and than its M A G I C as I mentioned in another thread today. I guess I'm a pretty deep and sensitive guy, been told this by a few as-well. Would be much easier if I was a heartless nasty fucker but I cant be like that and yearn to be loved even though I have not had a bad upbringing or anything like that. I love to cuddle, kiss and be so affectionate with my partner ... to me this is like treasure than the actual fucking .... but I have noticed many girls seem to not be as into this like I used to believe or I'm going with the wrong women. Few foreign mates tell me in Spain, Italy, Romania etc the latin type countries would love me because they are touchy feely .. the women like it allot and hey I may settle with one one day. At the moment I want more than anything with a women, is the companionship and closeness ... sharing that connection. Sex for me is like reading a book, even though I'm like a tiger in bed and do all the wizardry its going through the motions until I really connect with someone ... anyone understand me here?
 
Thanks for the quick reply, Gomer. I'm now going to try to give you some advice that I find hard to follow myself. So please bear with my hypocrisy and take these words for whatever they are worth.
It sounds like that girl is into you. Even if there is only a chance that the girl is into you, then take that chance. By the way, you got a 7" cock! The day I measure 7 inches I'm going to go out and celebrate and see If I can put it to some good use. 7" is not small - 7" is quite large! Hell, as we now know - just tell her it's 10" and she'll believe you!!! None of the girls I was with ever told me that my dick was too small. At least, not to my face anyway. One of them even said I was big - she was also petite like the girl you described. And both of the girls said they never knew a guy could last as long as I could. I think the reason I was dumped was because they could tell that I had a problem with confidence. I was very clingy and jealous. In other words, maybe it's all just in our heads! So getting laid was not enough for me to get over my fears. But we're all different! Maybe this girl will be so impressed with you that she'll fall in love with you (and your cock, and your body, and if your lucky - your mind and spirit as well!) and you'll eventually get over your fears. I sure hope that for you. Because 7" is quite large and you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of or afraid of. But there is only one way to find out. If you don't give it your best shot you will regret it for the rest of your life and end up wondering about all the chances that you missed and what could have happened. (like me) I wouldn't want anyone else to have to go through that.
Basically, I'm just starting my own transformation. I'm 5'-6" & @ 150 lbs. I've been using calisthenics combined with Bodylastics rubber exercise cables for about a few weeks now and they're very good. I'm not really looking to build much size (body-wise) but I'll take what I can get. I'm really trying to go for the ripped Bruce Lee type of look. That's just closer to what my body structure is like to begin with. I've also just gotten a Thermophore Heating Pad and am doing DLD's newbie routine. I'm still in the exercise learning phase. Thanks for letting me know about how intense I should be aiming for to make P.E. gains. By the way, should my dick/groin-area feel sore while doing the exercises, immediately after, or is there a delay like in body-building? And how much is too much?
I'm cutting way back on all kinds of �naked people movies� because I figure it's just natural to compare yourself to the likes of Ramon, Diesel, etc. and my subconscious has probably already had too much of that. By the way, I don't really have much of a finite goal just yet. My goal is just to make a certain amount of progress over a certain amount of time. For example my goal right now is to make 1/8" in length gains over three months. That's about 1/2" per year. I'm still very skeptical of all of this so if I make 1/8" or more after 3 months I'll know that It works. Maybe then I'll revise my goal.
By the way, does all that pressure from clamping leave a semi-permanent ring around your dick??? I'd imagine you may want to give it a break before you introduce your cutie to your Joy-Stick!
Take care & all the best. -Mike
 
Oh yeah, Gomer, I forgot to say... Don't be too concerned about tightness. Masturbating by hand is way tighter than pussy. At least in my experience, but then I'm not "big". Read about sexual techniques, kissing, using your hands, the clitoris, the G-spot, female ejaculation, positions, etc. etc. etc. Remember, you don't just fuck a girl's orifices with your dick. You fuck her entire body with your entire body. And you can make love to her mind with your words and your eyes. And when your doing it don't think about anything else, just remember that sex is about having fun together, playing with each other. Be playful and adventurous, and unpredictable, and be the leader. You can even be down right kinky and dirty and nasty. She doesn't want to have to tell you to do something. If she doesn't like something, she'll let you know. So be sure to pay attention to all of her subtle clues.
Good luck buddy, go get 'em!
Let me know how things go & if anything I said helped or not. -Mike
 
I appreciate the encouragement, Mike. The numbers in my sig are bone pressed though. I'm about 6.5" NBP right now and I was 5.5" NBP about a year ago before I started getting in shape. You're right about confidence and that is the sole reason I'm doing Penis Enlargement. Once I'm at 8x6 or 6.5, I will be fully confident that I'm the biggest guy at the bar or club when I walk in. I can't wait to have that confidence and when I do I'm going to try to bang everything I see LOL. This girl is really cool and I hope something happens between us because of that. I'm not going to try to start anything with her until we know if we're both in school or not though. This is just a summer class to see if we have what it takes, basically.

I'm close to your size at 5'9" and 160 pounds but our goals are definitely different. Its good that you are working out because that will definitely help build your confidence as well.

As for Penis Enlargement, start off slowly and condition yourself like DLD and the rest of the gurus say to do. This is EXTREMELY important. Had I started out double clamping like I do now, I would have probably exploded my dick. Maybe not but I can see that as a possibility for a newbie. Soreness and when it happens will depend on a variety of things like the way you wrap when hanging or clamping. Sometimes I wrap a bit too tight or I get a wrinkle in the wrap somewhere and that shit hurts the skin after about 15 minutes into a 20 minute session. Other times I wrap perfectly and feel no discomfort at all for the entire 20 minutes. Determining how much is too much will be pretty easy to do. Some soreness is good but if you are feeling really sore to where it is unpleasant to get an erection and masturbate, you probably need a break.

As for gains, that is definitely a realistic and achievable goal from what I've read. I haven't had much luck in the gains department but I had been hanging incorrectly since 2004. I still hung around here (pun intended) until now because I KNOW that Penis Enlargement works. If those people in Africa and places like that can make their necks (which actually contain bone) longer then we can make our dicks longer. If you put enough stress on it for enough time, it WILL grow. You just have to know how to do it correctly and I just didn't "get it" until recently. The clamping doesn't leave a ring around my dick but I fear that the skin at and above where I clamp is permanently discolored. After about a month off from Penis Enlargement, it looks like I've got a good tan on it compared to the rest of my body LOL.

I will definitely have to give it a rest before having sex. I tried using my FleshLight (which is amazingly life-like from what I've read) last night and it was kinda painful so I know that trying to get laid like that would be painful as well. A couple days rest before I get laid will probably be about right. I've been reading and watching all kinds of sexual how-to stuff so at least I've done that part. I'm almost ready to start trying to get laid, I would just like to make some length gains first so that it doesn't look so short to me.

Good luck to you too, Mike, and the things you've said have helped. -TJ
 
There are women who are actually human but they are few and far between.
 
Something else that gets left out of this whole equation is the fact that many men also lie about their size to women. The women they lie to eat it up and of course tell others about this ''huge'' guy they were with. I've heard guys saying they were 8 or 9 inches or whatever just to impress other men in casual conversation.
 
stillwantmore2;388271 said:
Something else that gets left out of this whole equation is the fact that many men also lie about their size to women. The women they lie to eat it up and of course tell others about this ''huge'' guy they were with. I've heard guys saying they were 8 or 9 inches or whatever just to impress other men in casual conversation.

Very true. I used to be guilty of this myself when I was a youngster. The myths keep growing from mouth to mouth. Too bad pe does not work this efficiently:)
 
Well guys, I finally did it. It took me almost exactly 27 years, 7 months, 22 days, and 15 hours to do it but I am no longer a virgin. This chick started hitting on me one night and I just went with it. I had known her a long time ago but never really talked to her much.

Anyway, the thing that shocked me is last night she told me I am huge after we finished and were cuddling. While I was immediately inclined to not believe her and think that she was just trying to stroke my ego, I hadn't mentioned a word about it to her up until that point because I am simply not going to start a penis size conversation with a girl yet. She is also the kind of girl that seems to tell it like it is and she is very opinionated about things. Should I take her comment with a grain of salt or should I believe her? Even though I'm a minute man right now (popping the horny goat weed like candy should help) she did seem to enjoy it and she felt damn tight for having children naturally. The only thing that I can compare her to is my FleshLight and she is definitely as tight as it is. I'm just kind of confused as to how I should take her compliment. Either way I'm still going to Penis Enlargement until I am huge according to myself and the available stats on the net but it would really boost my confidence if I should have reason to believe that she meant what she said.
 
Do not read so much into it, take the compliment and let it fuel your continued efforts of enlargement. If she said you have nice hair would you read into it? Of course not, so don't with this.
 
Check out the dildo reviews on edenfantasys.com. There are tons of thorough reviews by women on that site. Actually, I find reading them to be quite a turn-on, but whatever. ;)

I've read tons of them. What you often see are quotes like this...

For a dildo with 5.75" girth or more:

"A bit too girthy for every day use"
"not for beginners"
"Great for size queens"

For a dildo with 5.25" - 5.5" girth:

"Perfect thickness"
"Ideal"
etc.

For a dildo with 7-8" length:
"A bit longer than I'd like"
"A little too big for hard thrusting"

For a dildo with 5.5-6.5" insertable length:
"Ideal length"
"Perfect"

Now, to be fair, most dildos are made of a material that is very unforgiving. A human penis (especially the head) has much more give and less friction than a rubber dildo, meaning that impact and friction against the cervix will be less comfortable, and that the stretch it puts on the vaginal entrance is more, even with lubrication. I can confirm this, because I bought a rubber dildo for my girlfriend that was my exact girth, and she felt like it was a little too thick. After experimentation, I realized that, to adequately compare the size of a dildo to a penis, you have to actually pull the measuring tape tight. This compresses the penis (and dildo) about as far as a vagina would. This reveals that your penis, when compressed by a vagina, has at least 0.25" less girth than you would normally measure... unless we're talking a crazy viagra erection of steel. Which, by the way, is why Viagra and kegels do in fact make you bigger. Harder erections = bigger erections.

Anyway, I digress. The only dildo that comes close to human penis deformation under stress (from all our delightful experimentation!) is the Vixen Vixskin line. If you read the reviews on this thing, you'll see that women absolutely fucking love them. I mean, like hands down, they think it's the best dildo ever.

Now, VixSkin, subjected to my test, actually gives slightly more than an erect human penis would. But, the girth that women LOVE in this line? 5.5"-5.75", about 0.25" more than the size typically favored.

Unfortunately, the VixSkin line has a big hole in it, lengthwise... making it hard to say at what length it becomes uncomfortably long for the average woman. It goes from 6.25" insertable to 8.75" insertable, with nothing in between. The 6" length gets rave reviews, and the 8.75" is generally considered too long, despite its considerable give. The 2" girth is also considered a bit much, despite the give.

However, one trend I've noticed is that there are a whole category of women who think anything less than 2"+ girth is too small... probably this group is mostly made up of women who have gone through natural childbirth, although I'm sure there are also some size queens in that group.

But, nonetheless, the majority seem to want something inside them that is only SLIGHTLY above average. The problem with this is that BPenis EnlargementL is not a consistent measure of "insertable" length. NBPenis EnlargementL is a better measure of insertable length, but it varies wildly from position to position. If you're the ideal length for missionary, you're going to be too long to slam it home in doggie or knees up.

In other words, while there may be an ideal girth, there is no ideal length. It totally depends on the position. And it also depends on entirely on the woman, and her arousal level.

Just to be safe though, I'm still aiming for 8" NPBEL by 6" MSEG. ;) Because "ideal" for me means her saying things like "god, you're big". This ain't Goldilocks and the three bears!

Tom
 
Wonder who is buying the 14" models:)
 
doublelongdaddy;393378 said:
Wonder who is buying the 14" models:)

Lesbos?

Anyway, this stuff basically says what I've thought for years now. GIRTH is king. Length is mostly for visuals and male ego. I dunno why a guy would want a long skinny dick though. I'd rather have a short, thick one or average thick one.
 
stillwantmore2;393874 said:
Lesbos?

Anyway, this stuff basically says what I've thought for years now. GIRTH is king. Length is mostly for visuals and male ego. I dunno why a guy would want a long skinny dick though. I'd rather have a short, thick one or average thick one.

Yup, this is basically the reason I have been focusing on girth at this point. At 7 nbp i feel like I need to catch up in the girth department. Plus, im sure some small length gains will come from all this girth training.
 
There is usually gains in length when girth is gained as the penis expands in all directions in girth.
 
It feels like ecstasy when I have sex with my thicker penis, so not just those ladies who prefer thicker manhood's. You'll find the pleasure is bliss ... wonderful this Natural penis enlargement really is ... I can have a shit day and at night relax in the bath with the Bathmate and have a perfect dry orgasm ... because I'm worth it hahahaha
 
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