Stop doing what? To enlarge your penis? What's the problem to go back to the same gym of her? Don't you just want to have fun?
 
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I do want a permanently larger penis so that I can just stop one day without fear of losing most or all of my gains. If I could go (or afford) the surgical route without my family members knowing, have it safe (not die during surgery or any complications), and have %100 results, I would strongly consider doing that. But that's not an option, so I do p.e., and have to do it more so than others because as I've said in earlier posts, I don't have an average sized body. I have to strive for a really big size, just so that it will match the rest of me. My gym training cannot and must not be negatively affected by any potential drama from any females that have seen my unit/been involved with, as it affects my income. Like today, it's a real inconvenience knowing that I can't go the gym during certain hours or days, or have to completely rush through a workout, which is my fault, as I didn't thoroughly think things all the way through in getting "touchy feely" with the all of the women that have seen my penis. For lack of a better term, the "little head" was controlling the "big head". I'm not a womanizer or player and don't want to emotionally hurt any more women, as I know the first 2 were hurt (not sure if 3rd is or will be, as she kept asking me why I never called her after she gave me her number a month ago) but do want to show off my p.e. gains. So as you can see, it's a very complex issue, and I've got issues too.
 
I'd like to preface this by saying "no homo," lol, but i'm about to get a little deep on you here, Zartan.

after reading your story, I can tell you're a really considerate, emotional type of dude. which is awesome; you could make tons of girls happy with what you've got going on, physically and emotionally. all I've got to say is I think you should let go a little bit. Idk how old you are, but I've seen your pictures and by the look of your body I'd assume you are at least in your mid to late 20's. there's absolutely nothing wrong with not having gone all the way with a girl, and i'm not saying that because of your age you should have a partner, but a guy like you deserves to have a little fun. nowadays, it's okay to have sex with someone and not have them be "the one." like I said, you seem like a very loving person, and I think that you could please a handful of women if you let loose a little bit. bottom line, you don't have to feel so guilty about sexual interaction, we are human after all. and it doesn't have to be a big deal to go to the same gyms as women you are/have been involved with. I'm an avid lifter too, and I love it; there's no way a certain person being in the area could deter me from persuing my passion of lifting weights.

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to be encouraging of you having some fun and enjoying life. obviously it's your personal choice of what you want to do, but I'm sure if you found a girl that your massive love rod could fit into, they would eat you up. Shallowness aside, judging from how you talk in your posts, I bet girls would love the fact that you would be sensitive inside and outside of the bedroom.

that's enough ranting in circles for me. final words: go out there and please the ladies, dude!
 
Thanks for your concern Bawg1012. I'm not offended at your suggestions, as another concerned [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] member pm'd me recently to thoughtfully offer his opinion on the matter as well. I don't want to give away my age, but my p.e. adventure began when I was in college. I'm aware that I could go through with messing around with 1 or multiple women, but it will only damage me spiritually, mentally and physically as well as harming my reputation and credibility to those in my community/surroundings that I must be an example to. I have to be and have no problem being a "1 woman" man, as I want to know that whatever woman I do get involved with that the potential for marriage is there, not just messing around. If I'm just messing around, I feel that I'm wasting that woman's time, and am ruining myself for a future wife. My ex gf had been married before (I found out after we completed making out for the first time. Had I known before that, I would not have tried anything ever). During our relationship, I kept thinking to myself all the times that he must have had her, the different positions, etc. She would in a sense always be his. If I ever get married, it's going to a one time thing, till death do us part. I can't walk down the aisle with somebody that's like "Ho hum. This round 2 or 3 for me". For me, it can't be just a physical thing, as some part of me will be attached to that woman, whether I like it or not, which I don't, which is why I have to really "cool my jets" and make sure I save myself for the right one.

Anyways, here's an update:

1) I had to go to a shop for some business stuff. I go to this shop regularly, but forgot that I had my light blue nike sweats on. I forgot that I had these on and that the d-line might be more visible compared to other pants. The sale girl was looking down, but when I walked in, she got distracted with a smile and looked right at my crotch. Less than a minute later as I was searching for an item, she excused herself and got on her knees next to me (I was standing) to reach for some items on hold. She got a closer glance. As I was paying for the items, she was asking me how my week was, how I was doing, etc. She's always friendly, but was more so today after looking at my crotch.

2) About a month or 2 ago, a very attractive national level fitness/figure competitor joined my gym. She smiled at me and said hello about 2 weeks ago. Last week, we exchanged compliments and introduced ourselves. She doesn't talk to anybody else in the gym either. We talked for for about 3X as long today as we did last week, with people, including a married couple in my gym giving me high fives afterwards. She's got a little bit of a foul mouth, but she served our country in the military, so she gets an automatic pass. While we were talking, we were checking each other out without saying it. I'm feeling optimistic about this as I see a potential there, but have to let the big head run the show, not the little one and also have to realize that everybody has their flaws, especially me. One thing I am worried about is my ex gf finding out or running into this girl and cock blocking me or saying more bad/untrue things about me publicly.

3) Lastly, I've made slight gains in my unpumped/unclamped eg, fg and el

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I have to apologize as what I'm about to share is true and going to be a downer. About 2 hours ago, I had to go the alternate gym to get in the hot tub as my joints/injuries have been really bothering me to the point where I'm walking slow and have trouble bending over to tie my shoes. About a minute after I got in, the woman (that I messed around with) from a few posts earlier got in. I thought she wouldn't be there as she had something to do, but it got cancelled. It was a little awkward as I had not seen or talked to her in about 3 weeks. I was on my best behavior and didn't try anything. What she was about to tell me I was not ready for.

She told me that when me and her were messing around, her ex was literally calling her at that moment. She said that they attempted to reconcile. She let him know that she messed around with me, which did not go over well. She said that her ex, who is half black, said that she would try to find "some big black guy with a huge dick". She told me that he was 7", and let him know that I was huge and bigger than he is, which set him off. He then beat her up, with the arm bruise still being somewhat visible.

I was in shock, as this all seems surreal. She said it felt good to do what me and her did, wants to remain single, is going to kill the next guy that f's with her and that I have a big dick. She said that she felt like she got a matter of revenge on him by letting him know that I'm bigger than he is. I apologized to her several times as this was all tough to swallow. She left the pool a few minutes later, and extended a hand for a handshake. I went to hug her, but she wouldn't drop the hand. I feel terrible for what I caused. If I would just have not been so macho and eager for her to touch and see my penis, this would have been avoided. Domestic violence is a horrible thing to see and or experience, as those memories leave scars, and now I have played an unintentional part in this. I would have never begun p.e. if I knew that me doing so would cause a woman to get beaten. My scorecard now reads 2 women emotionally hurt, and a third physically, because I wanted to be pleased. This just sucks. I'm putting my foot down and am going to act more responsible and cover all my bases with the next woman, and ask others in the p.e. community to think about being more responsible in their relationships and encounters.
 
Zartan, I totally respect your views and choices; they all make total sense. I especially commend you on your feelings towards dating and marriage and the like--you are a much stronger person than I, especially spiritually.

I understand you being disappointed in yourself about the woman you fooled around with being harmed by her ex. that is unbelievable. However, that is a weakness of the other man, not you. I understand that you feel guilty on your own part, but you shouldn't have any shame about how he reacted. You had no idea of her situation.

Obviously it could have been avoided. Anything can be avoided if you don't involve yourself with other people. If it were me though, I would've acted the same exact way because I didn't know her situation with her exes. Anyway, not your fault at all brother. Don't beat yourself up.
 
You made good to her. She could use the size of your dick to revenge. It isn't your fault that douche like to beat women. If it wasn't you, it wolub be other. That's life, and we can't controll everything.
 
Don't take the blame for other peoples actions. It's an amazing thing that you have such a big heart and actually care about peoples feelings, and women's in general. But blaming yourself because of some douche bag who is so insecure of himself that he needs to feel like a man by beating someone who is physically weaker than him is not something you should do. It's not easy to control our emotions, especially when we are not in control of the actions of other people.
Don't change yourself because of other people, change yourself because you want to better oneself. Do it because you want to make a positive impact in your life.
 
Don't take the blame for other peoples actions. It's an amazing thing that you have such a big heart and actually care about peoples feelings, and women's in general. But blaming yourself because of some douche bag who is so insecure of himself that he needs to feel like a man by beating someone who is physically weaker than him is not something you should do. It's not easy to control our emotions, especially when we are not in control of the actions of other people.
Don't change yourself because of other people, change yourself because you want to better oneself. Do it because you want to make a positive impact in your life.
 
jjeramia;573134 said:
Don't take the blame for other peoples actions. It's an amazing thing that you have such a big heart and actually care about peoples feelings, and women's in general. But blaming yourself because of some douche bag who is so insecure of himself that he needs to feel like a man by beating someone who is physically weaker than him is not something you should do. It's not easy to control our emotions, especially when we are not in control of the actions of other people.
Don't change yourself because of other people, change yourself because you want to better oneself. Do it because you want to make a positive impact in your life.


bravo, jjeramia
 
I'm trying to put the events of 2013 behind me that I brought upon myself. Things are going good with the girl that I'm currently interested in (fitness & figure competitor), but I get the feeling that 1 or more people are going to try to c-block me (ex-girl and 2 gym players) if they haven't already. The post pump clamping and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s are making the difference. I'm getting a lot of looks and stares to the point where I don't even pay attention to it anymore. Women say hello to me all the time now, even though I have an intimidating face. The attached pic was taken 27 hours after my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] session. I'm holding the base and flexing my penis as well. This shot doesn't making me look real long, but extra thick.

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TheChillDude;574163 said:
What are good beginner manual exercises for girth anyone?

please check out the beginner's area of the forum, it's a treasure trove of information. please also post inquiries like this there as opposed to on someone's progress thread. it will limit the clutter.

on your previous girth pic, Zartan, all i have to say is this: holy s**t. seriously, I'd assume anything between 24-48 hours after a pump session could only be .12-.25" above and umpumped girth. so you're sitting at what now? 7.5" eg. well done sir, well done indeed. might want to start reigning in on the girth work, otherwise i think you'd be hard pressed to find a girl who can handle that size!
 
Zartan, you are viewing the world the wrong way. First off, we need to be aware that you and me (and probably most people on the forum) have mental health issues. So it is important to view your thoughts, actions, feeling, and lifestyle choices through that lens. How you feel about certain things are wrong so you need to learn which feelings to act on and which ones to ignore.

I'll start with the most obvious one. Marriage is completely and unequivocally a selfless act on the part of the man and an extremely selfish one on the part of the woman. This wasn't always the case. In fact, throughout most of human history it was the opposite. The reason this is true now is because of the laws regarding marriage. If you get married, you are giving the woman great power over you especially if you two have a kid. 99% of women cannot handle this power. The power I am referring to is the ability to take your money and possessions, your child, child support, and (after a few years of marriage) alimony whenever they feel like it. This puts strain on your relationship because, once you are married, the relationship is no longer equal. The power shifts into the hands of the woman, and that will destroy the happiness of the relationship because compromises are no longer possible. The woman will win all arguments. This is why 80% of all divorces are initiated by women and the primary reason they give is "dissatisfaction" in the marriage. This is not to say that you can't find an empathetic, self aware, selfless woman that you deserve, but if you do find one, they will NOT pressure marriage or have a "timeline".

Please be aware that the way you feel towards women, your selflessness, protectiveness, caring heart, is not typical trait. Most people are not like that. You deserve someone who's personality is in the top 1%. In other words, the chances of you finding a girl who is capable of giving you the relationship you want (a stable, happy marriage where you both care equally for each other) is 1 in a 100. The chances of this person being good looking as well is 1 in 1000 lol.

You may think I am not FOR marriage, but that is completely false. I am 100% for marriage, and against the laws that make it unequal, but since I can't change the laws, marriage is a bad bargain for men.

OK, next. You really need to stop seeing women (and other people) as more important than yourself. Do you think this woman wants you to beat yourself up over the fact that her bf beat her? No! She wants you to be happy, just like you want her to be happy. You didn't beat anyone. You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG!. You did something very right, and someone evil did something wrong because of it. You helped this woman a great deal by doing what you did in the hot tub. Your sexual acts with her was an indication to her that she has someone other than her bf to be with and gave her the courage to confront her bf because she thought you liked her and would be there for her. If you hadn't been sexual with her she would still be with her shitty ass bf destroying her life. It is better that now she has you to lean on instead of having to lean on someone who will beat her when angry. SO GO BACK TO HER AND BE THERE FOR HER!!! Don't abandon her when she needs you the most!

Third, you can't keep viewing others as being so weak. Other people, even girls (if not especially girls) are very strong and are capable of handling more than you give them credit for. Quit trying to protect the girls you are interested in. They don't need it. They can handle pain probably better than you can so quit worrying so much about hurting them. When you beat yourself up over hurting them, that means both of you are hurt. Let it go. In the end, they are better off for knowing you even if it hurts that you leave them.

And finally, stop being such a pussy. Girls like sex, girls like guys, girls like company of good men. Fuck them, hang out with them and be there for them when they need you. And be HONEST with them. Many girls don't see non-commitment as a deal breaker. They probably WANT commitment (as do you), but many are capable and happy with fucking, hanging out with, someone who will never commit so don't think you are wasting their time when you leave them. You didn't waste their time, you enhanced their time, and then you left. Just be sure to be open with your intentions from the beginning or you might be wasting their time. So go back to those girls you are avoiding, apologize for avoiding them, and be up front and tell them they are not THE one for you. They will be OK with that, and they will probably fuck around with you if they don't have a current bf. And if you don't want to fuck them, just let them know and still hang out as friends. I can see why your ex hates you so much. You were not honest with her and you still aren't being honest. Let her know that her lying about previously being married was a deal breaker, and let her know that she is kinda a bitch and you're tired of her shit. That is honesty, and she will respect that and hate you less if you say it.

Anyway, I have a thousand more things to say, but I'm already being a nosy, self-righteous bastard, so I'll just apologize for that lol.

edit: I haven't posted on your thread before so I wanted to say congratz on the gains! I wish I had a head that big lol. It is very impressive looking.
 
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Zartan, you are viewing the world the wrong way. First off, we need to be aware that you and me (and probably most people on the forum) have mental health issues. So it is important to view your thoughts, actions, feeling, and lifestyle choices through that lens. How you feel about certain things are wrong so you need to learn which feelings to act on and which ones to ignore.

I'll start with the most obvious one. Marriage is completely and unequivocally a selfless act on the part of the man and an extremely selfish one on the part of the woman. This wasn't always the case. In fact, throughout most of human history it was the opposite. The reason this is true now is because of the laws regarding marriage. If you get married, you are giving the woman great power over you especially if you two have a kid. 99% of women cannot handle this power. The power I am referring to is the ability to take your money and possessions, your child, child support, and (after a few years of marriage) alimony whenever they feel like it. This puts strain on your relationship because, once you are married, the relationship is no longer equal. The power shifts into the hands of the woman, and that will destroy the happiness of the relationship because compromises are no longer possible. The woman will win all arguments. This is why 80% of all divorces are initiated by women and the primary reason they give is "dissatisfaction" in the marriage. This is not to say that you can't find an empathetic, self aware, selfless woman that you deserve, but if you do find one, they will NOT pressure marriage or have a "timeline".

Yeah man I have to disagree, you're emphasis on what's right and wrong are so blanketed. If you have experience with a woman who did you like this, then share that. Please do not boast statistics and claim mental health issues then spout some dogma about marriage. It's just not true in most cases.

ShadedSam;574573 said:
Please be aware that the way you feel towards women, your selflessness, protectiveness, caring heart, is not typical trait. Most people are not like that. You deserve someone who's personality is in the top 1%. In other words, the chances of you finding a girl who is capable of giving you the relationship you want (a stable, happy marriage where you both care equally for each other) is 1 in a 100. The chances of this person being good looking as well is 1 in 1000 lol.

Again, how do you come up with these statistics and why the hell are you even mentioning this? It's dissuading and discouraging.

ShadedSam;574573 said:
You may think I am not FOR marriage, but that is completely false. I am 100% for marriage, and against the laws that make it unequal, but since I can't change the laws, marriage is a bad bargain for men.

ShadedSam;574573 said:
OK, next. You really need to stop seeing women (and other people) as more important than yourself. Do you think this woman wants you to beat yourself up over the fact that her bf beat her? No! She wants you to be happy, just like you want her to be happy. You didn't beat anyone. You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG!. You did something very right, and someone evil did something wrong because of it. You helped this woman a great deal by doing what you did in the hot tub. Your sexual acts with her was an indication to her that she has someone other than her bf to be with and gave her the courage to confront her bf because she thought you liked her and would be there for her. If you hadn't been sexual with her she would still be with her shitty ass bf destroying her life. It is better that now she has you to lean on instead of having to lean on someone who will beat her when angry. SO GO BACK TO HER AND BE THERE FOR HER!!! Don't abandon her when she needs you the most!

Ok, so now you're turning the power over to the man. I see you're very confused.

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Third, you can't keep viewing others as being so weak. Other people, even girls (if not especially girls) are very strong and are capable of handling more than you give them credit for. Quit trying to protect the girls you are interested in. They don't need it. They can handle pain probably better than you can so quit worrying so much about hurting them. When you beat yourself up over hurting them, that means both of you are hurt. Let it go. In the end, they are better off for knowing you even if it hurts that you leave them.

I think this whole idea is retarded. Women are precious beings, they are goddesses by nature. You can take multiple different views on women, however none of them are solitary and depend highly on the situation at hand, and relationship amongst them. You should care about hurting women, and all people for that matter. Just because you're not interested in sex, doesn't mean you have an excuse to care less.

ShadedSam;574573 said:
And finally, stop being such a pussy. Girls like sex, girls like guys, girls like company of good men. Fuck them, hang out with them and be there for them when they need you. And be HONEST with them. Many girls don't see non-commitment as a deal breaker. They probably WANT commitment (as do you), but many are capable and happy with fucking, hanging out with, someone who will never commit so don't think you are wasting their time when you leave them. You didn't waste their time, you enhanced their time, and then you left. Just be sure to be open with your intentions from the beginning or you might be wasting their time. So go back to those girls you are avoiding, apologize for avoiding them, and be up front and tell them they are not THE one for you. They will be OK with that, and they will probably fuck around with you if they don't have a current bf. And if you don't want to fuck them, just let them know and still hang out as friends. I can see why your ex hates you so much. You were not honest with her and you still aren't being honest. Let her know that her lying about previously being married was a deal breaker, and let her know that she is kinda a bitch and you're tired of her shit. That is honesty, and she will respect that and hate you less if you say it.

Ok, I'll agree with the bold. However, I seriously believe you're thinking and professing unilaterally in regards to women and their feelings. Yes, women will latch on to someone they care about, and some just want sex. It all depends on the relationship again. Your words are just a generalized scenario of a skewed view on the relationships of men and women. I encourage you to rethink and gain wisdom before assuming.

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Anyway, I have a thousand more things to say, but I'm already being a nosy, self-righteous bastard, so I'll just apologize for that lol.

Agreed. You may just be sharing your own detrimental experiences about your past relationships or those you've witnessed and believe what they are going through. It's about respect, and if you know you're self-righteous and nosy, then why do you post this type of unrelenting and contradicting confabulation?

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edit: I haven't posted on your thread before so I wanted to say congratz on the gains! I wish I had a head that big lol. It is very impressive looking.

For the record, nothing is right and nothing is wrong. It all depends on the individual. Finding someone similar to you is what's important.
 
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A week ago, I got up to 7 13/16" eg. This measurement was taken 38 hours after my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] session. Earlier today, I had a 21 hour post [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] measurement of 8" eg. I've been trying something a little different recently as instead of doing clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s/ssj variations immediately after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] work, I've been doing them 1 or 2 hours afterwards for 5 - 10 minutes. So far, so good. I don't want to be disrespectful to God, but I've been praying for a permanently larger penis.

Last week, I was talking to the fitness competitor from a few posts earlier. We were at different eye levels, but I noticed she took a glance at my crotch for a few seconds. I was flaccid and had my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] and clamp on, so hopefully she thinks that she wasn't staring an erection. I think she's on to me, as I've been trying to get the right situation to ask her out. The problem is that she's been "in the zone" with a national level contest coming up soon, and I don't want to mess her up at all. I had the perfect scenario set up last week, but she didn't come to the gym that day.

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Vevetir, it goes without saying that everything I say is just my opinion, so I don't feel obligated to say "in my opinion" after every sentence. Also, I stated at the end that I know that I'm being a nosy, self-righteous bastard, so you don't have to point it out to me. If you're interested in the statistics, message me and I'll give you some links. Sorry for not fleshing out what I was saying. Like I said, I have a thousand more things to say, so it seems confusing because I skipped 100 things for ever 1 thing I said. I just wanted to give my opinion in a relatively short post, not a college thesis paper.

"Ok, so now you're turning the power over to the man. I see you're very confused."

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to say here. I was saying that hitting a woman is wrong. The person who hit is evil, and he should feel bad. No one else should feel bad except for the asshole who hits people.

"I think this whole idea is retarded. Women are precious beings, they are goddesses by nature. You can take multiple different views on women, however none of them are solitary and depend highly on the situation at hand, and relationship amongst them. You should care about hurting women, and all people for that matter. Just because you're not interested in sex, doesn't mean you have an excuse to care less."

I agree. I put much emphasis on the value of every human being, man or woman. This is why I was saying don't beat yourself up over every little thing. You are important, and they are important. I was pointing out that you can't forget about yourself.

"Ok, I'll agree with the bold. However, I seriously believe you're thinking and professing unilaterally in regards to women and their feelings. Yes, women will latch on to someone they care about, and some just want sex. It all depends on the relationship again. Your words are just a generalized scenario of a skewed view on the relationships of men and women. I encourage you to rethink and gain wisdom before assuming."

I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here. I'm not going to write about every possible situation and every possible type of person. That would be impossible, so I have to generalize, and since I'm trying to keep it short, I have to generalize a lot, but I am fully aware that there are different types of people which is why I emphasized honesty.

"For the record, nothing is right and nothing is wrong"

I hope I'm reading this wrong and you're not saying there is no right or wrong, because if you are, there is no point in debating. There absolutely are things that are right and wrong, if you can't concede that, what is the point in having a discussion?

Zartan, I've been having problems with blood spots when I pump. They don't hurt or anything, just look ugly, and now I'm starting to get them from clamping as well. Do you have any advice on how to combat them?
 
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