And Finally After Two Years>>> Vkay Gains!!!

[Vaseline_Knight]

Hey everyone.

I haven't had too much of a presence at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] over the past several weeks.

As you know, in I tried a 7 day on, zero day off routine for 5 weeks with no gains and I got lured into the whole IPR protocol. I decided to take an extended break from Penis Enlargement and it served me really well. I didn't 'gain' any size from my rest but mentally I got alot more relaxed and instead of feeling like I was missing out on potential gains by not Penis Enlargement'ing, I viewed the break as a strategic step in furthering my Penis Enlargement career. More details here :Results of 5 weeks of Clamping Everyday with minimal Rest

I took a break on October 22nd, and was planning on deconditioning for two months. Every night, when I was checking my emails/internet I would turn on my air heater (I don't know what you call it, its a basic room heating fan I bought at homedepot). I've put it under my desk around a foot or so away from my penis and It gets my penis QUITE hot. I leave it on for a couple of minutes till I 'feel it getting too hot' and I cool off. This kinda helped me stay 'hung' as the heat treatment gives the same hang as post Penis Enlargement session.

Anyways, 25 days passed and I decided to give this whole IPR thing a try. only 2 weeks, and I know already that I wont be able to Penis Enlargement during December and half of january, so that would serve as a second deconditioning period.

BEL measurement was 18.2 cm. I pushed the ruler as far as it would go and straightened my dick with a maximum erection so I wouldn't lose length in my upward curve.

Here's what I did:

1)Thursday November 16th

Warm up using heater for 10 minutes,
hanged 5 lbs SD for 62 minutes. <--- felt no fatigue.
Warm up / cool down for 10 minutes
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]'ed while wearing a cock ring for 2 hours.
This was amazing as I had no circulation problems and no discomfort.
I ADC'ed by wearing the ring (cushion model E) for the rest of the day around 5-6 horus.

2 days complete rest. Meaning I didn't touch my dick. (I used to chop sticks to hold my dick while Penis Enlargementing.:blush: )

2)Sunday November 19th

Warm up
Hanged 8 lbs SD for 42 minutes, <--- felt a little fatigue but mainly discomfort lead me to cut my hang time short.
150 jelqs
warm down
No [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], just ADC'ed with ring for 5 hours.

2 Days rest.
At he end of the 2nd day of rest I went back to the ruler not expecting to see any gains as my dick really didn't look or feel any bigger.

BPenis EnlargementL Measured: 18.5 cm. :O :O :O 3 millimeter GAIN!!

3)Wednesday November 22nd
Warm up
Hanged 8 lbs SD for 62 minutes, <--- felt a good amount of fatigue in the root
150 jelqs
warm down
2 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with ring, and ADC'ed with ring for 5 hours.



4) Saturday November 25th
Warm up
Hanged 9 lbs SD for 62 minutes, <--- felt a good amount of fatigue in the root
150 jelqs + 10 minute Clamping set <---- felt sooo much fatigue on the CC portion of the tunica. My dick was sore to the touch and was covered with little red spots.
warm down
2 hours [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with ring, and ADC'ed with ring for 5 hours.


2 days rest.

I measured today. BPenis EnlargementL was right at 18.9-19.0 cm:O :O :O :O

That's an overall gain of 0.8 cm in 2 weeks!!!


I'll be doing my final session tonight.
And will [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a full week or two after my two days of rest. Hopefully these are permenant gains.

Vkay.

 

[goldmember]

I'm taking decon right now. I think I will start on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] w/ [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for all of march, and see how it goes.

Nice gains!

 

[Kal-el]

Congrats on the gains Vaseline!

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I'm taking decon right now. I think I will start on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] w/ [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for all of march, and see how it goes.

Nice gains!

Thanks
and that sounds great. Try to incorprate the IPR protocol and see how you gain for the first two weeks. If you don't gain anything then you can start doing whatever you want, but I'm almost positive you, in particular, will have great gains.

how much did you gain from just resting?

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Congrats on the gains Vaseline!

Thanks buddy.


Oh one thing I forgot to mention is that my Bone Pressed Flacid Stretch Length has gone to 7 3/4th or 19.6 cm. Interesting that I've gained more BPenis EnlargementL than BPFSL.? ? ?

 

[gimmegirth]

Keep us posted VK! soundin' good. I'd like to see detailed info on all the work-outs and rest.
As you know I gained from a 6week no rest girth period, gains and pump started to decrease so now i'm on length routine/girth proliferation.
I'm currently hanging with some [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and jelqing ANC for Girth proliferation.
I think I'll try out the protocol for length.

 

[EVO]

wow awesome vk!! its great to see that experienced vets can still gain pretty quick. it is extremely important that you spent the required time adsing to keep those gains permanent. what do you use for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]?

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Keep us posted VK! soundin' good. I'd like to see detailed info on all the work-outs and rest.
As you know I gained from a 6week no rest girth period, gains and pump started to decrease so now i'm on length routine/girth proliferation.
I'm currently hanging with some [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and jelqing ANC for Girth proliferation.
I think I'll try out the protocol for length.

sure will.
It'd be GREAT if one could do mutliple IPR cycles which overlapped.
As in do the I phase of length and then just [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for a month as Proliferation and do I phase of the girth cycle. then the rest phase of the lenght routine would coincide with the proliferation phase of girth. There'd still be a one month of total rest though.


Week 1 and 2 Length work
Week 3 and 4 ADSing for length Proliferation
Week 5 and 6 Girth Work + ADSing for length Proliferation
Week 7 and 8 ADCing for Girth Proliferation + REST for Length
Week 9 and 10 ADCing for Girth Proliferation + REST for Length
Week 11 and 12 Total REST
Week 13 and 14 Total REST


what do you guys think?

or do you think that girth inflamation will inflame the length aspect as well causing over training?

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

wow awesome vk!! its great to see that experienced vets can still gain pretty quick. it is extremely important that you spent the required time adsing to keep those gains permanent. what do you use for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]?

Ya I think these gains are VERY significant because I had hit a brick wall for over two years with no gains in length. Alot of people get frustrated and quit and hopefully we can find a way to not hit those brick walls and have sustained and continued growth.



I'm planning on getting a vacu [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] from Autoextender but I don't have the money at the moment. I just use my noose style FastSize [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I get semi erect, put on a cushion (which is like a cock ring, which keeps the penis somewhat engorged but not erect). then I wrap under the glans and I put the silicone noose around. This is much more comfortable than doing it flacid since the head is engorged and just a very slight grip on the noose will keep it in place. Therefore there's no need for a tight grip which would cause circulation problems to the glans. For now this will suffice.

 

[millionman]

CONGRATULATIONS VK!!!

I had a sneaking suspicion that you would gain pretty quickly after your extended decon break. Once my length gains level off I'm going to take an etended break, but once you're on a roll and still progressing keep it going. Take rest when you have to but have fun with it, as always.

I'm really happy that IPR has been productive for you. Keep it going.

 

[EVO]

do you have a max vac vk? atm im using a bungee cord just below the knee its a really good [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. ive also cut the air cord to make a small cap so it doesnt come off so easily.

 

[bulc9]

Nice one VK, well done! good gains there mate!

As millionman helped me out in my thread last week, maybe i need to take a break as i am having problems hitting the 8" mark.

I dont know if its in my head tho, and its all mentally effecting me? who knows. But im in my final year of University and life is pretty hetic.

How long would be suggested to take off on a decon break for me? Until after Xmas 1month? Then hit it hard with exercises such as stretching, bundled streches, double bundled tuncia stretch, hanging SO, OTS SD??

Would i gain better then doing a routine like that and taking a long break?
Also what is IPR protocol you are doing VK?

Congrats, wish i could see gains like that again!

 

[millionman]

Nice one VK, well done! good gains there mate!

As millionman helped me out in my thread last week, maybe i need to take a break as i am having problems hitting the 8" mark.

I dont know if its in my head tho, and its all mentally effecting me? who knows. But im in my final year of University and life is pretty hetic.

How long would be suggested to take off on a decon break for me? Until after Xmas 1month? Then hit it hard with exercises such as stretching, bundled streches, double bundled tuncia stretch, hanging SO, OTS SD??

Would i gain better then doing a routine like that and taking a long break?
Also what is IPR protocol you are doing VK?

Congrats, wish i could see gains like that again!

BULC, I honestly think if you take time off it would be for a month or so. To really gauge this you should post how long you've been on your current routine and what you results have been like.

Once you come back make sure that you have two things: an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for stretching, and a heating pad. Spend most of your time working length and then every other week come back and work girth for 3-5 days and take another 2-3 days off before going back to length work. This has worked brilliantly for me, but I'll be posting about that once I get through another complete cycle.

 

[EVO]

i also recommend the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]!!

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

CONGRATULATIONS VK!!!

I had a sneaking suspicion that you would gain pretty quickly after your extended decon break. Once my length gains level off I'm going to take an etended break, but once you're on a roll and still progressing keep it going. Take rest when you have to but have fun with it, as always.

I'm really happy that IPR has been productive for you. Keep it going.

Thanks buddy. I owe quite alot of this to our conversations about need for rest.
So you don't think I should stop right after the 5th session (which was yesterday by the way and I did 63 mins at 10.5 lbs. It was very tough for me to keep at that weight and had to stop and make minor adjustments every 20 minutes or so.)

I'm gonna see if I gain just as much from this last session. If I do, I will keep going, if not, I will stop and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a week or two and then decondition again.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

do you have a max vac vk? atm im using a bungee cord just below the knee its a really good [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. ive also cut the air cord to make a small cap so it doesnt come off so easily.

I do own a max vac. I'm hanging with it but in a different way to avoid the use of the Sheaths. Ordering the sheaths every couple of months is very expensive and I had to figure out a way around it.

I don't find the max vac stealthy at all. But I might give it a try.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Nice one VK, well done! good gains there mate!

As millionman helped me out in my thread last week, maybe i need to take a break as i am having problems hitting the 8" mark.

I dont know if its in my head tho, and its all mentally effecting me? who knows. But im in my final year of University and life is pretty hetic.

How long would be suggested to take off on a decon break for me? Until after Xmas 1month? Then hit it hard with exercises such as stretching, bundled streches, double bundled tuncia stretch, hanging SO, OTS SD??

Would i gain better then doing a routine like that and taking a long break?
Also what is IPR protocol you are doing VK?

Congrats, wish i could see gains like that again!

Hey bulc,

I've noticed your frustration over your platuea over the past while. I can totally relate to how you're feeling. Alot of Penis Enlargement IS Mental, I can't deny that. But that mentality isn't 'more is better'. That mentality, as is the way of life in general, is that sometimes, no matter how bad we want something, we have to back off a bit, relax about it, and take it easy and in time what we want will come to us.

Penis Enlargement, unfortunately has the potential to eat you alive. I was a victim of this and unfortunately, unless you give your all to it and still see no gains, you're most likely not gonna give 'less is more' a try. For me there was always an urgency to Penis Enlargement as I thought that not Penis Enlargementing (and at that NOT doing the most extreme exercises) won't yeild results.

We have to keep in mind, all these fancy named exercises are quite new to Penis Enlargement. The only proven exercises are jelqs and hanging and some form of constrictions (like ULI's) that the Taoists practiced. And to be honest, now looking back at all the intense (and dangerous) exercises I used to do in hopes of a millimeter of gains looks stupid. You name it, I've done it, and no matter how intense it is, your body will find a way to adjust to its intensity to prevent gains if you overtrain. Either that or if your body can't adjust you end up with a dysfunctional penis.

If your tissues are deconditioned, the slightest bit of pressure makes you gain. Then, your mentality and maturity comes into play. To be patient and stick with a routine even though it 'seems' not intense enough, and to take Penis Enlargement easy. That's really the hard part. If you read into the Penis Enlargement vets who've gained alot of length and girth, you'll see most weren't over obssessed with it and they didn't make it their life's #1 priority.


To answer your question, I would suggest you take a month or two off, and then just start REALLY light. You have to then slowly build up the intensity until you find the so called 'sweet spot'. You don't wanna decondition and then head right into overtrainning again.

I would recommend you read this thread carefully. There's alot of good information I've posted by some very experienced members.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26228

hope this helped.

 

[spinner2]

Awesome story. It's good to here how well IPR is working out for people. Hopefully the guys working on it at Thunder's can figure out a good set of ointments to make IPR even more effective.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Awesome story. It's good to here how well IPR is working out for people. Hopefully the guys working on it at Thunder's can figure out a good set of ointments to make IPR even more effective.

I don't think anyone is currently 'working' on it over at Thunder's. The ones that contributed to it like xenolith and shiver apparently left. and another user Babis, or something like that, he's openning up a pay site and refuses to share any 'information' on thunder's.

I wouldn't underestimate [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] though. We have some very dedicated and bright members here who could contribute lots to developing such 'ointments'.

 

[spinner2]

Check the thread 'collagen considered'. They're trying to figure out good compounds to help speed up the process and make it more effective. Right now it's mostly known compounds and they're considering carriers to make it penetrate well.