Priapus shot and O shot tomorrow morning!
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Thanks. My feeling is that at least it is not unproductive. It is a procedure which has been positive for me, and didn't do anything bad, though my thoughts are that it would take quite a number of shots to get really blown away with the outcome. Currently I do not plan on any beyond the three I've had, but we will see how I feel in a few months.doublelongdaddy;586939 said:
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Speaking of cost, those testosterone bloodwork labcorp panels were billed at $900 each to the insurance company. Just cost me the copay. The priapus shot isn't covered.
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toucHydromaxyjunk;586984 said:
Each @ $900.... Typo?
How much was/is your copay?
Testosterones(F+Total)+Estradiol+PSA+DHEA-S in a panel are usually around $70-$120 max.
There are a couple posts on �other PE site� about purchasing your own centrifuge on ebay/ETC and doing your own shots. Just throwing that out there.
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Actually there was no copay for my labs. It was covered. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the original order. From memory it was nothing other than what you mention above. I'll have to go look through my mail and find a followup letter from LabCorp to verify the amounts. I see no charges on my CC. I have the receipt from my last lab visit and it says $888.00 (maximum amount).smerc;586992 said:
Interesting about purchasing a centrifuge. It seems like a simple thing, but I kinda thought they were high-dollar like $20k or so for a decent one. The shots might not be that big of a deal but no thanks to the self blood draw.
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Well there are plenty of kits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w
And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.
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Well there are plenty of kits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w
And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w
And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.
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Well there are plenty of kits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJrOrCm8h2w
And you could contact Dr Runnels and ask about licensing or if he has made the concentration and additives public knowledge.
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toucHydromaxyjunk;587005 said:
Not that I know of. They're around $50-400 and they just go by RPM/force exertion.
If you think about it, the process is so simple. All they really do is just spin and stop @ what they're timed to stop @.
All you're really paying for is the solution mixed into the blood, the simple injection knowledge, and the fact they can push up prices since they have no or not much competition at the moment.
The blood draw is kind of icky to think about. The process is easy though. Only had my blood drawn around 30 times my whole life, so I'm not an expert
.Would hate to temporarily pass out and wake up to my whole room painted red.
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I wouldnt buy shots online because not too many sites are trustworthy. And you may get a bad batch. Plus theres room for mistakes and you cant sue yourself. Lol
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I was referring to DIY Chem PE and things of that nature.smerc;587104 said:
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Nobody hates needles more than me <LIGHTNING;587094 said:
The needle was like 30awg and 1-1/2" long. I just don't think I could do it myself. Just look away, hold onto the gurney and transport your mind to a vagina far far away.
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toucHydromaxyjunk;587153 said:Nobody hates needles more than me <
Never needled my dick and never will...scares the crap out of me
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I don't mean to jump in but I feel compelled to throw in my two cents worth. I have been into PE for over 15 years and I am 46 now. I have tried so many different ideas it would make a man dizzy. I have tried HGH straight into my Corpus... I have tried IFG-1 also.... I am getting ready for my Third priapus shot.... I guess you can call me a junky... lol So far the best results from anything I have tried has got to be good old fashion pumping.... water or air i like them both in their own way. I started way back at just under 6" and I am now only at 7.25" Now in the 15 years I have taken time off and started back up many many times. I definitely think that the verdict is still out on the P-shot. I believe in the concept but if after three shots I don't get much if any gains I will move on to the next. Might look into my own centrifuge. I would have to do more research on the vials and the product that they are mixing with, and where to get good product to use. Hope this helps any of you crazy guys like me thinking about stabbing your buddy with new ideas.... lol Best of luck and keep pumping......
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longshooter;594457 said:
That seems to be the consensus on manual PE versus chemical, manual works best. I am always hoping for more conclusive information on chemical work and we have been working in this area for years now, it just seems the results do not pan out for most. Like you said, Good Old Fashion works best.
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There are already discussions on DIY PRP shots @ home. You might try finding those. I think the big issue w/ that it where to find the kits.
The only thing I know that they're mixing w/ it is:
Sodium Citrate = Anticoagulant (used in the tube/vial where the blood is being drawn in to (this is so the PRP/ETC can be extracted easier from the RBC in the centrifuge)).
Calcium Chloride = [used in the injection vial and mixed w/ the end result PRP] / Initiates platelet activation, clot formation and growth factor release at the injection site. "Tricks the platelets into thinking that they are in the body and the body has been injured".
Thrombin = Sometimes used w/ calcium chloride. Not sure how vital it is. It's said to be an activator of some sort.
Some places are also looking into hyaluronic acid mixed w/ the PRP. There has been some talk of necrosis though. Seems to be just the speculations w/ fillers though and not for using it as a means to keep the PRP localized.
The only thing I know that they're mixing w/ it is:
Sodium Citrate = Anticoagulant (used in the tube/vial where the blood is being drawn in to (this is so the PRP/ETC can be extracted easier from the RBC in the centrifuge)).
Calcium Chloride = [used in the injection vial and mixed w/ the end result PRP] / Initiates platelet activation, clot formation and growth factor release at the injection site. "Tricks the platelets into thinking that they are in the body and the body has been injured".
Thrombin = Sometimes used w/ calcium chloride. Not sure how vital it is. It's said to be an activator of some sort.
What was protocol after your shots? I think all docs recommend pumping as this should localize the plasma within the penis for a longer duration. A cock ring after would also have it's benefits.
Some places are also looking into hyaluronic acid mixed w/ the PRP. There has been some talk of necrosis though. Seems to be just the speculations w/ fillers though and not for using it as a means to keep the PRP localized.
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My post shot routine was as follows:
First month was every day 10 minute pump two minutes off 10 minute pump....twice a day. Then my doctor back to me off to just 10 minutes on two minutes off, 10 minutes on once a day just three times a week. Again I have nominal if any positive results. To the point that my doctor is giving me a free shot into weeks. I will let you know if he tries anything different this time. Thanks for the home shot information and chemical breakdown. I will keep doing my research also.
First month was every day 10 minute pump two minutes off 10 minute pump....twice a day. Then my doctor back to me off to just 10 minutes on two minutes off, 10 minutes on once a day just three times a week. Again I have nominal if any positive results. To the point that my doctor is giving me a free shot into weeks. I will let you know if he tries anything different this time. Thanks for the home shot information and chemical breakdown. I will keep doing my research also.
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Maybe he will recommend trying a ring w/ the pump. If not, you might try asking him about it.
Not saying that can make or break results, but it helps to keep things more local. I think if you were going to see any benefits, you would have already seen them by now.
How many mL of plasma is he injecting?
Not saying that can make or break results, but it helps to keep things more local. I think if you were going to see any benefits, you would have already seen them by now.
How many mL of plasma is he injecting?
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Very similar stats to me. Same age and PE duration.longshooter;594457 said:
After my first gains (jelq), for a few years I ditched most exercises and went with an air pump. I pumped almost every day, with the girth filling a 2.25" tube and length at the same as my erect length. I got a more cylindrical shape and fullness but not impactful gains. In my opinion, exclusive use of a pump is not optimal.
Nowadays I combine the use of an air pump as a final exercise, after stretches and extending sessions.
I have been having success with using the air pump thusly..
* If you have ball or shaft hair, get rid of it. Either wax (I use Surgi-wax) or shaving is ok. The hair restricts the exercises
* With an air pump use lots of lube and go in as erect as possible. This is the key. In the past I pumped until I had lots of fluid retension but that is a waste of time. You'll want to go in very hard and pump to where you are getting good erect expansion but avoid pumping when only semi-erect because it will bring about fluid retension too quickly. YMMV but I personally do -10 to -15 but keep a watchful eye out for head blistering
* Pump for a few minutes, then at regular intervals do a minute or so of wet jelq at 75% erection strength. It helps to have a cup of water nearby to re-wet the lube. Get fully hard again and pump to the same metric. I do that for probably 30 minutes or so
* If you have a failing libido, try becoming satisfied with edging and avoid ejaculation for a day or two. It can really help with the mechanics of exercise to have a built up libido
I have done three p-shots so far. I used my regular routine afterwards, nothing special though I do extra jelqing and expansion exercises because I am interested in the improved vascularity. This last shot I ramped up my routine 150%. I pushed very hard with a bit of everything. Even did a two-week cycle of Andractim. It's still gaining steadily at about the same rate so I guess there's a bit of a limit on how quickly it can be built out. One of the things with my more intense routine I was trying to do is provide a longer duration erection, to act as a scaffold for the PRP whatchamacallits to grow into. It seems effective but as I said the gains are just kinda moving at glacial pace but still positive.. probably won't even get another 1/4" before the end of the year.
My Dr has an additional souped-up P-shot with stem cells (he does a mini lipo-suction of your fat and extracts stem cells). I may give that a try before year end.
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