Gaining size after your newbie gains

Ok I'll try and keep this brief this is what I believe...........

Newbie gains are mainly stretching of the ligaments that surround the penis not the penis itself the length gains you make are not making your actual penis longer your just exposing more inner penis and deforming the surrounding ligaments.

I've made 2 inches EL from years of stretching like this but now after deciding to try and gain a little more LENGTH I'm going to have to stretch and deform the penis itself not the surrounding ligaments because I've exhausted that way of gaining.

The limiting factor gaining from the penis itself is the tunica it's very very strong and adapts quite fast the only way I can make gains from the tunica is if I either

1.HANG.....using a fulcrum,straight up,over the leg,straight out and various other angles that won't engage the ligaments like straight down and between the cheeks.
Increasing the weight and time under tension as the tunica adapts to the stress levels.

2.CLAMPING/PUMPING.....stressing the penis to expand beyond normal size and hoping after a while I gain from the expanded state.

3.PGE-1 CHEM Penis Enlargement.....I've tried this before again like clamping mainly a girth exercise I gained 1/4 inch girth from about 6 weeks of pinning 3-4 days a week I stopped due to scar tissue forming at the injection site.
Limiting factors are pge-1 is getting hard to come by,having a painful erection for 3-4 hours every time you inject,still having to jelq,pump,clamp and stretch to get max results.

I think the best approach is hanging combined with collagen softeners like DMSO/PABA and vitamin E once a day or injecting tb-500 2 MG once a week to keep scar tissue down and make everything more pliable.

If I can get into a routine hanging daily while I watch TV or play games on a computer even while eating dinner I can attach my hanger and rack up the hours under tension and when going about my daily activities wear a silicone sleeve or something to keep the extended state going on.

In theory it sounds good but making this a reality may be hard to achieve.

Any tips,pointers or am I going about this the wrong way is much appreciated.

Have you ever used an ADS? If not, 4 hours a day for 3 months and I bet you'd gain 0.5" of length.

Your thinking is very astute and you have summarized the situation quite nicely. You might look at your weight, if you can lose pounds you will gain fractionally, about a quarter of an inch for every 5lbs so it is a productive avenue if you think you can trim your package. I believe similarly to your postulate; that you have weak erectile pressure so by weakening the tissue you improve the efficiency of your pump and you will expose more of the inner penis. Its perfectly elementary and it fits any physiological/biological explanation to a 'tee.'

Excessive weight will ultimately begin a deforming process to the penis, so you can gain and become huge if you have the time to hang for hours in the day. You have to make the determination of the deforming force and develop a schedule you can keep with some discipline. It just depends what you set for your goals. If you just want a half an inch you maybe able to get this through weight loss; if you're pursuing HUGE than achieving 9" will probably require a deforming force and schedule.

ZackD89;578029 said:

Have you ever used an ADS? If not, 4 hours a day for 3 months and I bet you'd gain 0.5" of length.

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I used a silicone sleeve once but was to tight so stopped what do you recommend? I've seen some on eBay from a guy called ego booster like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Penis-En...efaultDomain_0&var&hash=item4d18413503&_uhb=1

I don't know if I could wear that all day though maybe buy some flaccid jackets

Shilow;578032 said:

Your thinking is very astute and you have summarized the situation quite nicely. You might look at your weight, if you can lose pounds you will gain fractionally, about a quarter of an inch for every 5lbs so it is a productive avenue if you think you can trim your package. I believe similarly to your postulate; that you have weak erectile pressure so by weakening the tissue you improve the efficiency of your pump and you will expose more of the inner penis. Its perfectly elementary and it fits any physiological/biological explanation to a 'tee.'

Excessive weight will ultimately begin a deforming process to the penis, so you can gain and become huge if you have the time to hang for hours in the day. You have to make the determination of the deforming force and develop a schedule you can keep with some discipline. It just depends what you set for your goals. If you just want a half an inch you maybe able to get this through weight loss; if you're pursuing HUGE than achieving 9" will probably require a deforming force and schedule.

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Yes I'm not that fat around the stomach area I don't know if losing any weight will give me any gains my EQ is a little of so maybe I have to be careful what I do.
I have gained and lost weight before without really any size difference though.

I agree if you can keep to a routine,over time the deformation of the 'penis' has to stretch longer with increasing weight it's just hard finding time and of course wearing an ads.

I really want another half inch to 1 inch erect length it doesn't sound like a lot but it's so difficult after the initial newbie gains.

8incyclops;578058 said:

I used a silicone sleeve once but was to tight so stopped what do you recommend? I've seen some on eBay from a guy called ego booster like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Penis-En...efaultDomain_0&var&hash=item4d18413503&_uhb=1

I don't know if I could wear that all day though maybe buy some flaccid jackets

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Funny how those got so much hate, but now people are pretty open to them. Anyway, I was referring to a SizeGenetics or something similar. I credit my biggest length gain to the FastSize (out of business now, but basically a SG with only a noose attachment). I wore mine in college and just did my HW while extending (so I could get in my 4 hours in relative privacy).

ZackD89;578061 said:

Funny how those got so much hate, but now people are pretty open to them. Anyway, I was referring to a SizeGenetics or something similar. I credit my biggest length gain to the FastSize (out of business now, but basically a SG with only a noose attachment). I wore mine in college and just did my HW while extending (so I could get in my 4 hours in relative privacy).

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Yeah disco Dave was annoying I wish he didn't spam I find the extenders also difficult to wear during the day I have a peni master pro if it's possible I'll wear it but a silicone sleeve would be more comfortable but not give much tension just anti turtle

Throw that hanging weight over your shoulders.

Vetiver;578071 said:

Throw that hanging weight over your shoulders.

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Over the shoulder yes all the strain on the penis not the ligaments I like hanging with a pulley above me inside of over the shoulder it gets to much after a while.

ZackD89;578029 said:

Have you ever used an ADS? If not, 4 hours a day for 3 months and I bet you'd gain 0.5" of length.

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You're delusional...more like 8-20 hours a day and you will gain .5 in 3-6 months.

Btw, newbie gains are EQ gains, not gains from ligaments or cell deformation, simply better EQ.

FishScale;578080 said:

Btw, newbie gains are EQ gains, not gains from ligaments or cell deformation, simply better EQ.

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That's not true. Maybe it held true for your development, Idk, but in my case my EQ was brilliant from the get-go. For a very short time frame (about 2 weeks or so) it even improved, that's right, but not so much that it made a measurable difference after the EQ improvement was neutralized again (which is an event that will happen to almost everyone if he shoots fort girth).

I am in the same boat as yo 8incy i exhausted all my lig gains long time ago and made some tunica gains.From RSDT FULCRUM, SO with a pulley under my desk.
Now i know i can get some gains from over the leg hanging because it gives me massive tunica stretch, but i am doing a little rest from pe

FishScale;578080 said:

You're delusional...more like 8-20 hours a day and you will gain .5 in 3-6 months.

Btw, newbie gains are EQ gains, not gains from ligaments or cell deformation, simply better EQ.

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Well, while there is some improvement (might), I have to repeat Satyr's words. It might have been that way for you, but how do you explain flaccid gains then?

Satyr;578086 said:

That's not true. Maybe it held true for your development, Idk, but in my case my EQ was brilliant from the get-go. For a very short time frame (about 2 weeks or so) it even improved, that's right, but not so much that it made a measurable difference after the EQ improvement was neutralized again (which is an event that will happen to almost everyone if he shoots fort girth).

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Have you guys used Viagra? Those little blue babies re-nerutralize the lost EQ! 4 hours of pure steel.

ishuge;578100 said:

I am in the same boat as yo 8incy i exhausted all my lig gains long time ago and made some tunica gains.From RSDT FULCRUM, SO with a pulley under my desk.
Now i know i can get some gains from over the leg hanging because it gives me massive tunica stretch, but i am doing a little rest from pe

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Awesome I want to know more how long did it take you to gain hitting the tunica?
How long did you hang for a day?
Does over the leg hit the tunica? It kind of looks like a awkward angle.
I'm thinking about the same set up with the pulls under the desk.

Zambrodom3;578101 said:

Well, while there is some improvement (might), I have to repeat Satyr's words. It might have been that way for you, but how do you explain flaccid gains then?

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Flaccid gains or stretched flaccid gains? If it's stretched flaccid then only then can it be true gains from the ligaments. But almost every one who got newbie gains got the length gains because of their increase in EQ. Those with the same erect length as flaccid stretch length didn't gain much in their first month starting Penis Enlargement>

I don't care much about flaccid gains and I don't measure flaccid size very often nor do I value it as an indicator for growth. Nonetheless I consider your claim that newbie gains are just EQ improvement as very individual. A lot of people (as I did in the beginning) do gain ERECT size very fast in the first few weeks. These gains stay even when the initial EQ improvement effect vanishes.

Satyr;578295 said:

I don't care much about flaccid gains and I don't measure flaccid size very often nor do I value it as an indicator for growth. Nonetheless I consider your claim that newbie gains are just EQ improvement as very individual. A lot of people (as I did in the beginning) do gain ERECT size very fast in the first few weeks. These gains stay even when the initial EQ improvement effect vanishes.

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Yes. Otherwise it'd be hard to explain how a man with perfect EQ (starting with it) gains 0.5 inches in 2-3 months and still has his EQ perfect.

I hung 6-7 sets 20min per set. Over the leg hits the sides of the tunica and it is great if you penis exit point is already low and you have stretched out your ligaments.
It gives me amazing stretch.
For tunica gains they are slower than LIG gains but are more solid gains.

ishuge;578336 said:

I hung 6-7 sets 20min per set. Over the leg hits the sides of the tunica and it is great if you penis exit point is already low and you have stretched out your ligaments.
It gives me amazing stretch.
For tunica gains they are slower than LIG gains but are more solid gains.

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How do you know if your exit point is low??I've stretched out my ligaments and have a LOT of nearly 6 when I get my hanger set up I plan on hanging over the leg,fulcrum and straight out hanging with some BTC to keep them stretched.