Longth;638659 said:
I guess I didn't see this last night? Weird.

Yea, you don't have to worry about me with any contest type of deal. Between my lack of any real confidence in my understanding and that I'm just plain not able to make 400 posts in a month I am virtually a non issue. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at 179 I think it is, is just not within my means. Much like anything else on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words], it's a clever and undoubtedly effective device. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] are obviously strong performers for many. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would only be surprising if it actually failed. Just been on a strict budget and trying to actually be fiscally responsible more and more as I get older.

Would probably be a butt kicker though.

My hang is lovely today. Maybe my little lever trick will be enough. Or maybe I'll break it. I doubt it or I wouldn't try it, but it is a strange feeling. Just one more experiment that has a slim chance of efficacy to tack on to the wall of ideas not worth trying most likely. Time will tell. It's not like it takes more than a few weeks to see if something is having an impact at all. So whatever. If I gain a millimeter woohoo. If not Boohoo and move on. Same old potatoes.

I was just playing any way. I can't post 400 in a year, but luckily it's more about likes and thanks now, so the more productive stuff yields the prizes. You came in second last month right? Behind shortdick? Well regardless, we all have gains to make and sounds like you're pretty positive about this new path and what you're doing seems like a good way to do so.
 
BornInFigi;638668 said:
I was just playing any way. I can't post 400 in a year, but luckily it's more about likes and thanks now, so the more productive stuff yields the prizes. You came in second last month right? Behind shortdick? Well regardless, we all have gains to make and sounds like you're pretty positive about this new path and what you're doing seems like a good way to do so.


Very true and I think that is the reason LIGHTNING made likes and thanks a priority in the contest.
 
Yea I kinda think last month was pretty much the closest thing to a shot I had. My confidence in my advice is low and I'm not willing to send people off in the wrong direction so I can get a new toy. That's not really right you know?

I woke up later than I planned on. I guess I needed it. Really the least tired I've been in months. I am less sure about how I want this day to go now that it's here. I am getting a sinking feeling I'm opting to do too much. I've seen how well these things work for girth for me so it is a fine bit of overkill. I am kinda tired of the endless trips to the bathroom and I may just not have the mental fortitude for a routine like that at this point. If it makes me sick thinking about it yea. Probably just going to kill my drive.

Idk
 
Longth;638718 said:
Yea I kinda think last month was pretty much the closest thing to a shot I had. My confidence in my advice is low and I'm not willing to send people off in the wrong direction so I can get a new toy. That's not really right you know?

I woke up later than I planned on. I guess I needed it. Really the least tired I've been in months. I am less sure about how I want this day to go now that it's here. I am getting a sinking feeling I'm opting to do too much. I've seen how well these things work for girth for me so it is a fine bit of overkill. I am kinda tired of the endless trips to the bathroom and I may just not have the mental fortitude for a routine like that at this point. If it makes me sick thinking about it yea. Probably just going to kill my drive.

Idk

All you have to do is keep doing you man. You don't have to dole out advice for a new tube or anything, you just need to keep up on your PE, and be a good bro on the forum man. It's sounds like you are quite depressed, amigo? Are there other things away from training that are getting in the way?
 
There's always something. Training was actually a distraction that gave me a sense of control because gains were coming regularly. Now that I've hit the wall because of a lack of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] mainly it's starting to become another thing I have bad luck with. Length work is draining, so seeing all that energy basically get lost is definitely a downer in it's own right.

There's not a lot else to try though. So I will soon reach the point where it's kinda out of my hands. And I can at least say I did everything within reason that I could. I can't really put myself down for the effort I put in here though.
 
Longth;638743 said:
There's always something. Training was actually a distraction that gave me a sense of control because gains were coming regularly. Now that I've hit the wall because of a lack of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] mainly it's starting to become another thing I have bad luck with. Length work is draining, so seeing all that energy basically get lost is definitely a downer in it's own right.

There's not a lot else to try though. So I will soon reach the point where it's kinda out of my hands. And I can at least say I did everything within reason that I could. I can't really put myself down for the effort I put in here though.

Keep your head up bro. Don't give up!
 



Some pics of my post workout after another perfect and lengthy edging session. You can plainly see that I get absolutely epic expansion with a ring. I am very satisfied with my session today that ran for nearly 3 hours without a hiccup. I think most anyone would be thrilled to have that kind of control. It's not the record for me, but it's damn close.

I am apparently not going to lose any further gain. I've actually laid low and haven't touched length work in weeks. Seems I'm stuck a hair over 8 inches. This is a breath of fresh air for me after the initial measurement that had me so discouraged. I will gladly take a simple plateau over a struggle to maintain a temporary gain any day of the week.

In other news I recently began working on a project that netted me a little more than I counted on. I'd be wiser to save it or knock out a bill or two, but I'm actually going to get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] instead. Really came out of the blue and the lady of the house actually suggested I get it after she caught a glimpse of the box opening video. I guess in this particular instance keeping an open dialogue was actually a good thing. Nevertheless, I will be ordering one and trying out the most helpful sounding exercises I can find while I wait.

So I've got plenty of research and preparation to do. Definitely feels like the spark I've needed to get back my motivation. I see no reason to not still continue with girth work in pretty much the same manner. Maybe just get rid of the middle session and just do [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] between two big sessions. If this phase doesn't work length can kiss my girthy ass. I'd be a little surprised though considering the reputation it's earned.

1 hour in the morning. 1 hour at night. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] all day. Also half hour edging and 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after each session. Going for the big beef here. Let's get this shit done.
 
Longth;638941 said:



Some pics of my post workout after another perfect and lengthy edging session. You can plainly see that I get absolutely epic expansion with a ring. I am very satisfied with my session today that ran for nearly 3 hours without a hiccup. I think most anyone would be thrilled to have that kind of control. It's not the record for me, but it's damn close.

I am apparently not going to lose any further gain. I've actually laid low and haven't touched length work in weeks. Seems I'm stuck a hair over 8 inches. This is a breath of fresh air for me after the initial measurement that had me so discouraged. I will gladly take a simple plateau over a struggle to maintain a temporary gain any day of the week.

In other news I recently began working on a project that netted me a little more than I counted on. I'd be wiser to save it or knock out a bill or two, but I'm actually going to get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] instead. Really came out of the blue and the lady of the house actually suggested I get it after she caught a glimpse of the box opening video. I guess in this particular instance keeping an open dialogue was actually a good thing. Nevertheless, I will be ordering one and trying out the most helpful sounding exercises I can find while I wait.

So I've got plenty of research and preparation to do. Definitely feels like the spark I've needed to get back my motivation. I see no reason to not still continue with girth work in pretty much the same manner. Maybe just get rid of the middle session and just do [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] between two big sessions. If this phase doesn't work length can kiss my girthy ass. I'd be a little surprised though considering the reputation it's earned.

1 hour in the morning. 1 hour at night. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] all day. Also half hour edging and 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after each session. Going for the big beef here. Let's get this shit done.

Yeah brother! Beef? It's what's for dinner, bitch.
 
So I guess instead of getting that I'm going to be irritated that PayPal isn't authorized to take the card I specifically got to use for it. Never even heard of that, but whatever.
 
Handled. Now the wait and planning. Can't deny that I'd be very pleased if it works out and I can get the new gains I'm after. Not much out there would give me a better shot.

As for the use, I'm thinking 20 minutes of bundled stretches, possibly Mandingo style. 20 minutes of btc stretches. And another 20 minute set of something else I haven't determined yet. I'm also thinking about using it as a hanger for a 20 minute set mid day. Just because why not? I have some weight to use and something to use it with.

Anybody want to recommend the third length busting monster stretch I might do?
 
My sleep is being a bastard again but I am definitely getting back to my usual self. Like the freaking seasons I swear sometimes. So I guess I'm at the tail end of winter waiting on spring to start. I'm glad I didn't go into anymore detail here than I did. Not proud of complaining. Just got knocked out of reason for a short time.

I think I'm going to try 20 minutes of stretching right at the base for a solid expressive stretching deal. Putting that with 20 minutes of bundles and btc stretches, and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for 8 hours a day really looks as solid as it gets. Probably 12 hours of work a day and a ring overnight. Sounds like a lot but I'm not going for fun, I'm going for fast hard earned gains I can cement with a lesser routine for a few months. My fat pad has decreased slightly so I've got a decent 7nbp. The goal is 9bpel and getting there as quickly as humanly possible. Really depends on how well I respond to it.

What do you think? An inch in a month? :p
 
Longth;639025 said:
My sleep is being a bastard again but I am definitely getting back to my usual self. Like the freaking seasons I swear sometimes. So I guess I'm at the tail end of winter waiting on spring to start. I'm glad I didn't go into anymore detail here than I did. Not proud of complaining. Just got knocked out of reason for a short time.

I think I'm going to try 20 minutes of stretching right at the base for a solid expressive stretching deal. Putting that with 20 minutes of bundles and btc stretches, and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for 8 hours a day really looks as solid as it gets. Probably 12 hours of work a day and a ring overnight. Sounds like a lot but I'm not going for fun, I'm going for fast hard earned gains I can cement with a lesser routine for a few months. My fat pad has decreased slightly so I've got a decent 7nbp. The goal is 9bpel and getting there as quickly as humanly possible. Really depends on how well I respond to it.

What do you think? An inch in a month? :p

12 times faster than my goal!!!
 
an inch in a month hope you gain that ..that would be an effective way to prove that how possible is to gain if you gain that inch. that routine of yours would be followed by hundreds of people maybe thousands¡:)
 
I have seen quite a few men gain an inch in a month, for the most part it is newbies that are fast gainers but I have seen some vets who have tried a new routine make it happen, a few with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine. I would love for you to make this happen, it would bring so much confidence to the Brotherhood.
 
It would be pretty great. It's not exactly [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] but it is a nut buster of a routine. Going to need to find some television to stream for all that time or I'm going to get crushed by boredom. I'm fortunate to have the silicone sleeves from the old [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so I should be set for wrapping. I kinda think a tight condom would work also for holding foreskin back.

Hope it arrives before Saturday so I can fiddle with it a bunch on Sunday and figure out what works. Seems like there's a good number of people posting they have one but not a lot of actual testimonials. I'd be quite alright with spreading that around with a scent of non flakey ness
 
Longth;639080 said:
It would be pretty great. It's not exactly [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] but it is a nut buster of a routine. Going to need to find some television to stream for all that time or I'm going to get crushed by boredom. I'm fortunate to have the silicone sleeves from the old [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] so I should be set for wrapping. I kinda think a tight condom would work also for holding foreskin back.

Hope it arrives before Saturday so I can fiddle with it a bunch on Sunday and figure out what works. Seems like there's a good number of people posting they have one but not a lot of actual testimonials. I'd be quite alright with spreading that around with a scent of non flakey ness

I think I'm not understanding the last paragraph of this post?
 
BornInFigi;639116 said:
I think I'm not understanding the last paragraph of this post?

Basically if I bust my hump and make a good gain I want to build that mofo up like nothing else. You guys are inhuman with your patience. I want to be the one to shatter that.

Consider me a canary.
 
doublelongdaddy;639045 said:
I have seen quite a few men gain an inch in a month, for the most part it is newbies that are fast gainers but I have seen some vets who have tried a new routine make it happen, a few with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine. I would love for you to make this happen, it would bring so much confidence to the Brotherhood.

Why should all the glory go to the noobs?? It's about time to shatter the idea that you get what you get. Good for business and my donkey dong. Let's go full on bulldozer and see where it leads!

Very excited to be working with another [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] device. I've seen the potential of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] if you're not a giant man vag. Oh em gee. A little fluid retention and my base girth is around 8 inches so I better stop.

No. This is a game of all or none. Win or lose. And I say fuck the absurd adversity. I'm going to win this shit.

Let's kick this bitch dicks ass
 
The past 2 pages are heavily indicative of bi polar for the unaware. It's a bitch when I'm off but when I'm on you just plain can't beat me in motivation.

Double edged sword is in my favor now, so what?
 
You guys are inhuman with your patience. I want to be the one to shatter that. hahaha yeah we all want to get gains ASAP but sometimes we cant.and there are so many reasons why.seems like you have the determination time and discipline,besides i think you are above average now.you are going to get damn big bro.we all have to learn from your determination and will power:)
 
I would really just like to get better proportions like some of the other frequent posters like top or voorhees. It's like having a massive average looking dick. It's hard to believe it's 8 between the girth and the fat pad, aside from that one picture. Feels big as hell when I fuck though, which I can always appreciate. Another inch would be bitchin for proportions sake and getting deep in positions other than missionary. Worst case, length fails to i increase and I get my girth to being basically mean.

Gonna look big as fuck one way or another.
 
Tomorrow is the beginning of the end.

According to tracking info my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] should be here tomorrow afternoon and I can't wait to get started on that path. I am going to try out a couple ideas I had for wrapping and really go at it full throttle by Wednesday. Tuesday I actually have something work related to take care of. But I count on bulldozing it from there.

After reading the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] forum and making further observations on a few obvious practitioners I've realized I really still have a good bit of lig gains to make. I'm sure I've actually got the potential for over an inch, and possibly much more. I did think I was done with exit point gains but now I am seeing that it may well be the most sensible way to get it done with speed. So I'm thinking all of my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] work is going to be downward. Unless there's a reason to not do that with expressive stretching I am unaware of.

Seems like the best course of action is following dlds advice verbatim. Downward stretching and have at it. Makes me really ponder if I am going to go after width with some of the methods he's written on. Maybe I'll be smart and give that call to the lady. That'd make for an interesting discussion at the very least.
 
Longth;639341 said:
Tomorrow is the beginning of the end.

According to tracking info my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] should be here tomorrow afternoon and I can't wait to get started on that path. I am going to try out a couple ideas I had for wrapping and really go at it full throttle by Wednesday. Tuesday I actually have something work related to take care of. But I count on bulldozing it from there.

After reading the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] forum and making further observations on a few obvious practitioners I've realized I really still have a good bit of lig gains to make. I'm sure I've actually got the potential for over an inch, and possibly much more. I did think I was done with exit point gains but now I am seeing that it may well be the most sensible way to get it done with speed. So I'm thinking all of my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] work is going to be downward. Unless there's a reason to not do that with expressive stretching I am unaware of.

Seems like the best course of action is following dlds advice verbatim. Downward stretching and have at it. Makes me really ponder if I am going to go after width with some of the methods he's written on. Maybe I'll be smart and give that call to the lady. That'd make for an interesting discussion at the very least.

So happy you will be getting your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], this is the beginning of something big and I know you are going to take right to it. Congratulations on your new tool!
 
So I'm finding my schedule is becoming an issue with what I wanted to do. Simple solution, less time with extending. I also have a bad habit of slothing around when I get up. That's got to stop. Just have to get up, warm up, do the morning routine and get to it. Kinda have a set time I need to be done by. Fortunately I can do most of it at home, but I am going to be around others later on in the day on an increasingly regular basis.

Really not sure if I can handle both, but I'm going to have to be a little more flexible if it's going to work out at all.
 
Longth;639569 said:
So I'm finding my schedule is becoming an issue with what I wanted to do. Simple solution, less time with extending. I also have a bad habit of slothing around when I get up. That's got to stop. Just have to get up, warm up, do the morning routine and get to it. Kinda have a set time I need to be done by. Fortunately I can do most of it at home, but I am going to be around others later on in the day on an increasingly regular basis.

Really not sure if I can handle both, but I'm going to have to be a little more flexible if it's going to work out at all.

Bro, you can make it work. Just decide there is no option except success, every time you fail don't beat yourself up just dust yourself off and get back at it. The right attitude is everything right now. You can gain that inch bro!
 
How's the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] treating you brother? Is it game changing?
 
BornInFigi;641298 said:
How's the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] treating you brother? Is it game changing?

Duh! Of course it is:)
 
Hey guys. I don't know if this is the proper place to ask this question but every video I watched of the mandingo stretch I don't feel the stretch where it's supposed to be felt. I only feel the pain right where my knuckles are when I grab just below the head and twist the wrist palms facing up and that's when I try every angle possible and I still only feel it where my knuckles are. Any input? My measurements are 6"EL and 5.2" GIRTH. I don't know if my dick is too short or what but it's very frustrating
 
twist3d7;645505 said:
Hey guys. I don't know if this is the proper place to ask this question but every video I watched of the mandingo stretch I don't feel the stretch where it's supposed to be felt. I only feel the pain right where my knuckles are when I grab just below the head and twist the wrist palms facing up and that's when I try every angle possible and I still only feel it where my knuckles are. Any input? My measurements are 6"EL and 5.2" GIRTH. I don't know if my dick is too short or what but it's very frustrating

I have not really done much with this stretch but I believe that is the area you should feel the stretch. Some guys just can't get into certain stretch positions, like the A-Stretch used with DLD Blasters, not everyone can do it.
 
OK.

Long, much needed, and hard earned break over. I'm going to work on girth for a few months until tax return season rolls around next year. The goal for the end result? A solid 6.5 mid shaft, which I already have at the base. Still don't fit in a tp roll flaccid, but it's the nature of the beast to want more.

So the plan,
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] after half hour of edging with a ring, a third half hour mid day, and a loose fitting ring the rest of the day.

Simple, intense, and almost fun. The next step will be a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] program with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] sessions replacing edging. Not even bothering with length until I have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] just because I'd rather not waste the effort on a less effective method.

Ultimately, a 9x7 sounds good. As it is now things look pretty good. Also figuring on losing weight, and maybe a little work with dumbbells. Some squats and sit-ups, and something targeting the fat pad in particular. And following my own advice, some kegals, which I understand squats are also helpful with.

Starting as soon as I have a loose ring that I like. So a few days. Here's to hoping I make my marks.
 
Longth;663537 said:
OK.

Long, much needed, and hard earned break over. I'm going to work on girth for a few months until tax return season rolls around next year. The goal for the end result? A solid 6.5 mid shaft, which I already have at the base. Still don't fit in a tp roll flaccid, but it's the nature of the beast to want more.

So the plan,

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] after half hour of edging with a ring, a third half hour mid day, and a loose fitting ring the rest of the day.

Simple, intense, and almost fun. The next step will be a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] program with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] sessions replacing edging. Not even bothering with length until I have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] just because I'd rather not waste the effort on a less effective method.

Ultimately, a 9x7 sounds good. As it is now things look pretty good. Also figuring on losing weight, and maybe a little work with dumbbells. Some squats and sit-ups, and something targeting the fat pad in particular. And following my own advice, some kegals, which I understand squats are also helpful with.

Starting as soon as I have a loose ring that I like. So a few days. Here's to hoping I make my marks.

Great plan. I can see you read through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread, I appreciate that!
 
Still waiting on my ring for edging, but I did learn that the new sprocket ring from Oxballs is a champ for the all day scrotum embrace. And I still have my adjustable for the mild overnight retention. Really looking forward to getting into the whole fat look again, but I really haven't lost much from my prior gains.

One quick observation on the early testing, not shaving the area I'm wearing the ring pulls all the hair around it. Very unpleasant, but after shaving the area there's only mild discomfort after an hour or so, which basically means it's just time to adjust and then it's gone.

Started kegals again and all that. Definitely looking forward to making a lot more gains. Kinda hard to ignore the difference extra girth makes.
 
BornInFigi;664471 said:
Glad to see you back.

Good to see you're still at it. I kinda hit the wall, and got distracted at the same time.

I'm thinking I should probably start a new thread seeing as this is really an old experience and it already ended. Every round is another story.
 
Longth;664482 said:
Good to see you're still at it. I kinda hit the wall, and got distracted at the same time.

I'm thinking I should probably start a new thread seeing as this is really an old experience and it already ended. Every round is another story.

Very true. I feel the same way. I will probably start a new thread at the end of the year too.
 
Longth;664482 said:
Good to see you're still at it. I kinda hit the wall, and got distracted at the same time.

I'm thinking I should probably start a new thread seeing as this is really an old experience and it already ended. Every round is another story.

I would not start a new thread, just keep updating this one.
 
So I've gone at it steady for maybe five days, and am seeing the usual obscene pump I like to. Using a ring all day and night to retain what I can and all that. Even just trying to get a semi going when I have the time and privacy. All very productive and shit.

I'm starting to worry about the red rings of death that come with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. Kinda hard to believe but I'm already getting literal pain from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]. Which sounds ridiculous I'm sure, but I don't think that's a complaint so much as a crazy observation. My base girth must be ridiculous during those sessions.

And if I turn the tube just right it actually looks like I'm nearly filling that sum bitch, which is partially an optical illusion but I think it's getting to that point where a larger option would probably be better. Or at least a super comfortable sleeve or something. I'll have to search.

A further step in the all day ring discomfort, I'm trying out a small bit of sock with a bit of lotion underneath. My methods are effective, but always seem to get caught in the fight between progress and pain. Just tried this tonight, and it feels so much better than the usual rubber on skin friction.

Not in a rush to measure, but I can't really help myself in checking how my ok grip fits. Around the base, not at all, just under the head, I've made it past the fulcrum on my thumb just under the nail.

I think at this point a bit more not at all is the goal.
 
Longth;664897 said:
So I've gone at it steady for maybe five days, and am seeing the usual obscene pump I like to. Using a ring all day and night to retain what I can and all that. Even just trying to get a semi going when I have the time and privacy. All very productive and shit.

I'm starting to worry about the red rings of death that come with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. Kinda hard to believe but I'm already getting literal pain from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]. Which sounds ridiculous I'm sure, but I don't think that's a complaint so much as a crazy observation. My base girth must be ridiculous during those sessions.

And if I turn the tube just right it actually looks like I'm nearly filling that sum bitch, which is partially an optical illusion but I think it's getting to that point where a larger option would probably be better. Or at least a super comfortable sleeve or something. I'll have to search.

A further step in the all day ring discomfort, I'm trying out a small bit of sock with a bit of lotion underneath. My methods are effective, but always seem to get caught in the fight between progress and pain. Just tried this tonight, and it feels so much better than the usual rubber on skin friction.

Not in a rush to measure, but I can't really help myself in checking how my ok grip fits. Around the base, not at all, just under the head, I've made it past the fulcrum on my thumb just under the nail.

I think at this point a bit more not at all is the goal.

If you need it, I can send you my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words]. I don't think I'll ever need it. I know what you mean tho. I'm almost able to grab the side walls of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] after a long session.
 
BornInFigi;664899 said:
If you need it, I can send you my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words]. I don't think I'll ever need it. I know what you mean tho. I'm almost able to grab the side walls of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] after a long session.

I think I'm going to take you up on that if you're serious. Do you get the rings of death? I'm kinda thinking a sleeve would just crush me farther up. I remember first getting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and saying to myself there's just no way this will ever be too small. And it really isn't except for the base. I'd imagine the compressed base girth of it is closer to 7.

Maybe a few more months like this I'll need a new [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] designed for me especially. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] Longth.

Or Bane.
 
Longth;665009 said:
I think I'm going to take you up on that if you're serious. Do you get the rings of death? I'm kinda thinking a sleeve would just crush me farther up. I remember first getting the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and saying to myself there's just no way this will ever be too small. And it really isn't except for the base. I'd imagine the compressed base girth of it is closer to 7.

Maybe a few more months like this I'll need a new [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] designed for me especially. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] Longth.

Or Bane.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Longth for sure. I don't have the same base thing that you have going on. I have a penis that gets girthier the further away from my body it gets. This allows me to use a couple cockrings to protect the shaft close to the base. This is where I feel most guys get the bite. The bulk of my issues are the ball crushing and bite higher on the surrounding areas. Maybe I should pull out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] and use it again. It's been a long time. I haven't used it since I got my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]. I should pull it out and see how crazy it is. If I still feel the same way, I'll shoot you a pm and we can work something out.
 
BornInFigi;665016 said:
BM Longth for sure. I don't have the same base thing that you have going on. I have a penis that gets girthier the further away from my body it gets. This allows me to use a couple cockrings to protect the shaft close to the base. This is where I feel most guys get the bite. The bulk of my issues are the ball crushing and bite higher on the surrounding areas. Maybe I should pull out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] and use it again. It's been a long time. I haven't used it since I got my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]. I should pull it out and see how crazy it is. If I still feel the same way, I'll shoot you a pm and we can work something out.

That would be super helpful at this point. I just finished my session and tried putting the sucker dead center just to be sure. I'm usually a little haphazard about the position. No charge. In fact it's worse. Which is better, but ouch. That's two bathmates now. I started, comfortably, with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I'm sure a lot of other dudes would kill to have trouble with being too thi ck at the top or bottom of these things.

Just a thought, have you considered vasoline on the tube? On the plunger itself it just makes a mess for me. Also, the ball pinching, I've read, can be eased with a ring for just the balls. I've personally had decent success just using the old yank the sack away from it as you apply auction each time.
 
Longth;665041 said:
That would be super helpful at this point. I just finished my session and tried putting the sucker dead center just to be sure. I'm usually a little haphazard about the position. No charge. In fact it's worse. Which is better, but ouch. That's two bathmates now. I started, comfortably, with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]. I'm sure a lot of other dudes would kill to have trouble with being too thi ck at the top or bottom of these things.

Just a thought, have you considered vasoline on the tube? On the plunger itself it just makes a mess for me. Also, the ball pinching, I've read, can be eased with a ring for just the balls. I've personally had decent success just using the old yank the sack away from it as you apply auction each time.

Yeah. I've tried various ways of keeping the sac back, but nothing really helps. Consistently, I've been having luck just pulling and praying like you're describing.
 
BornInFigi;665042 said:
Yeah. I've tried various ways of keeping the sac back, but nothing really helps. Consistently, I've been having luck just pulling and praying like you're describing.

Kinda willing to deal with the discomfort considering the results. The thing is definitely worth the work. Best idea yet, get a heating pad to use after to kinda sooth away the sting. Would actually function in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] sense as well.

So theoretical priapismatics is the next phase for me after this, what I'm considering, a reintroductory period. Right now I'm going with 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions as warm up and warm down with 4 30 minute edging sessions and a loose ring for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] purposes during down time. The only difference between this and when I start my experiment will be the addition of an erection inducing medicine. Mainly intended to treat ed. However, I envision these pills having a great deal of synergy with the rest of pe.

Now I am unsure of how often or exactly when I will be using the drug, but after considering it for a while I'm thinking I split the routine into a kind of day/night type of deal. So the warm up, and 2 30 minute sessions of edging with a regular ring, then taking a dose and strapping on the large [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] type ring. Then I just let the drug do it's job for a few hours, and once it's worn off entirely, do the second half of the routine, and after the warm down, another dose for pretty much my daily wind down and going to sleep.

The reasoning is fairly obvious, and the results will hopefully speak for themselves. The reasoning on the timing of the doses is I kinda feel like a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session in that state is mostly foolish and almost definitely going to injure someone trying it. I feel the same about the borderline clamping cock ring edging. Strictly as a massive boost to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. Under that reasoning I feel like this is a relatively safe experiment with a very real possibility of being my end all be all. If it works out maybe it can be developed into a protocol for the highly experienced and frustrated. I could see this whole process taking 3 months while remaining safe.

I'm going to run the experiment for a month. I'll be starting as soon as I can procure the ingredients. Possibly a few weeks. Maybe more, maybe less. No matter what, I'm trying this. Now that I've stumbled onto the theory I'm finding it hard to resist. Let's just hope my dick stays all saiyan about it.
 
Dang bro, too big for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], that's amazing. I hope to get there soon myself. The optical illusion makes it look like it's getting there, but I know it's not the case.
 
JakeM82;665115 said:
Dang bro, too big for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], that's amazing. I hope to get there soon myself. The optical illusion makes it look like it's getting there, but I know it's not the case.

The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] is the next step. I wish they would come out with an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X50[/words] but I think sales on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words]'s are so low that they just stick with the original with the new valve. I was so happy when I got my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words], the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] was just way too small for me to work with.
 
JakeM82;665115 said:
Dang bro, too big for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], that's amazing. I hope to get there soon myself. The optical illusion makes it look like it's getting there, but I know it's not the case.

Yea, but that little optical illusion is kinda fun to see each session. Kinda like if I were that thick I'd probably look into reverse pe. It's just that the plunger contracts when you depress it. Kinda a flaw they tried to fix with the sleeve, but using the sleeve reduces the potential pressure, and I've been freaky with the girth stuff and pumping too long to want a lesser effect.
 
Well I did a horrible job today, screwing up 3 out of 4 sessions. I guess I will make tomorrow a lighter day for recovery. Maybe skip the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and just do an edge or two depending on how my eq is. Listening to those physiological indicators and all that. Today my dick just wasn't into it.

This brought me to thinking about how I should plan to dole out rest days when I get into the experiment. I'm thinking a 3 on one off with every other off day being totally devoid of active pe. The other just being 3 edges throughout the day. Those are pretty easy on me, it's the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] that's really the pain bringer. Edging is just difficult. I might even go 3 on 2 off or the typical 2/1. Although I really feel feel like that's really how progress is made. But it is a rather intense plan regardless.

I guess that's wait and see.

The larger of the two rings I got is about to tear apart. That's an Oxballs atomic jock. The smaller ring is stretching out a bit much and seems destined for the passive ring position. I'm already having to use it around my entire scrotum to net the same effect. That's an Oxballs do nut ring. My guess is the screwball was lasting forever and did the job right so they watered down the formula and made some junk that just plain doesn't compare. I have to say that the do nut seems less likely to break anytime soon, but the way it's gone up in elasticity is kinda annoying.

So I'll be getting another screwball ring soon also. They're triple the price now. Doubt that's a coincidence.
 
What do you account the ed to? Over edging and pumping? My eq drops pretty hard after lots of girth and snaps back about 48 hrs after I have stopped. I don't know how important it is, if you are partnered care etc? Just hope you are doing ok with it. The ed drugs are kind of a vicious circle IMO. But, if you're mainly trying to make the most out of your workouts and can afford them- more power to you.
 
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