Longth;635801 said:
If I can't make gains doing this then I am out of luck.


This should never be the case. When gains are not happening changes need to be made and those changes are infinite in how that can be put together. There are cases where some guys can't gain unless they only train once a week, other times it is because they are overstraining. Some equipment is good for some men while maybe not for others. Certain exercises and frequency of exercise can be the reason. Please, never quit, always come back to your Brothers and we will make sure you gain!
 
Seems like my gross new friend is all dried up. It's not pretty, but it looks like it kinda ruptured on it's own, which at least saves me a really nasty experience. Still not exactly thrilled but at least my junk seems to heal very quickly.

I have decided to still do a measurement tomorrow, but I'm not expecting anything. I've also decided, due to a lack of options, to give extending another go just to finish out the cycle I'd set out for. I am just going to be more careful with heat and see if a different lotion will be better. For some reason, medicated doesn't seem like a good fit for pe. Tingling and just odd like chap stick. Odds are I will consider boosting it to 6 more weeks due to the down time before I get to the planned step down. Unless the freaking thing bites me again.

The only thing that really seems variable is I used a different lotion that felt odd. I have applied heat for hours on end with nothing but expansion and pain relief. Other than that I really don't know. I've done so much work with all this and not had any injury and then in the past week I strain a lig and get a blister. I think I am going to have to look at how I do things and see what is too much. My body is usually pretty good at "dude, wtf" s so maybe I aught to listen when my heart drops and my mind goes "enough already jack ass".

Another day or two and I'm back to it. Suck it nasty ass blister hellspawn.
 
Longth;635935 said:
Just a bad week. I wouldn't count me out yet.

We will never count you out, we all have bad weeks but we are here to help.
 
So I waited almost a full four weeks to measure and while I did gain it is less than a quarter inch. I expect a part of the slower pace to be because of the unwanted break and now a lessened routine sapping the momentum I had going. Still, a little is better than nothing. It occurred to me that I really just don't want to go back under 8 bpel. I might be fine with a little more length, but priority 1 is to keep the 8x6 at or above 8x6.

My flaccid girth was pretty close to 5 today. I could tell because I tested it out with the same type of roll. It concerned me until I got an erection. It actually surprised me a little. Regardless, I'm sure once I get back to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I'm sure the flaccid will get back to what I'm used to.

I tried bundling at a full rotation straight out. Crazy stuff. Definitely feels like a powerful stretch that I'm going to have to use for the last stage of extending. Hits the tunica like all the other work seems to hit the ligs.

So despite the tough luck it looks good for getting to 8.5 at least by the time I get to my maintenance routine. Which really should keep me in limbo between gaining and regressing. Very close to 7 nbp with all my extra fat, so I may soon see the day where my nbp is higher than ever with a fat pad that is really up there for me. It'd be nice to get in one flawless month of the full routine before the end, just to see how good this routine is. Can't help but wonder what I'd have without the set backs.

So many words. So much of the time.
 
So another update on the blister, it wasn't just a blister, the area of the head in the cap was severely dried out and sore. My guess on the reason, menthol was hiding in the lotion. It makes a lot more sense now that my restart was so bizarrely uncomfortable and destructive considering that one little variation. I have had a difficult time finding a vitamin e aloe vera lotion consistently available at a reasonable price, so I guess it was inevitable I picked one out that did harm. I'm going to have to figure one out that I can find regularly.

Had a nice chunk of head skin peel off today. Really disgusting stuff when you have to do that. So half of my head has fresh skin available. The other half is still a bit bruised looking from the blister. I don't think it's actually bruised and it's just how the blister is going about it's business in cleaning up after itself. None of this has actually been painful. Just annoying because of how obvious a hindrance it is. I expect to be back in business on Monday considering the rate is healing.

In the down time I have been doing about what I expect the maintenance routine to be. Figuring out exactly how I'm going to go about it once I don't have this in the way. Really like the full bundles and lazy ass and holds between the legs for passive methods. Keeps my flaccid a little under 6 nbp. Which is cool by me. The full rotation bundles are difficult but feel great. Everything else at least crushes the ligs well enough so I expect to do a few less reps of those. Probably a smart idea for avoiding another strain.

I really like having a place to write all this down where nobody can stumble onto it. There's so many details that would probably get my family thinking I'm a complete freak show. It helps me get all the thoughts out of the intangible space in my head. Helps keep the peace.
 
Longth;636030 said:
So another update on the blister, it wasn't just a blister, the area of the head in the cap was severely dried out and sore. My guess on the reason, menthol was hiding in the lotion. It makes a lot more sense now that my restart was so bizarrely uncomfortable and destructive considering that one little variation. I have had a difficult time finding a vitamin e aloe vera lotion consistently available at a reasonable price, so I guess it was inevitable I picked one out that did harm. I'm going to have to figure one out that I can find regularly.

That would make sense, the blister where there was skin but when it reached the head is was not able to blister so it bruised.
 
I don't know if this is going to heal by tomorrow. Seems to still be draining. If not I have a plenty adequate routine to start tomorrow. Sure as hell not extending with a wound like that.

Really grossing me out. The bubble is gone and now there's just a draining wound. Really on the fence about even considering extending again. There's no pain it's just so damn nasty. Maybe if there's no scarring but it doesn't look good right now. It's really annoying bouncing back and forth like this.

Maybe I should just set a goal...

8.7

That's like another half inch. Maybe just do the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] less routine until I hit that. Doesn't bother me nearly as much. Really makes me in a bad mood. If it were just hitting the bathroom for 20 minutes 4 times a day and heating and tucking my dick I really could just do that for however long I needed to.

Maybe I should commit to that for a month and determine my goals from there. I'm 8 and 3/16. That's not bad at all. But I think 8.5 is the minimum considering my original lofty goals. That'd be a solid inch longer.

I really need to learn some patience.
 
doublelongdaddy;636040 said:
That would make sense, the blister where there was skin but when it reached the head is was not able to blister so it bruised.

No, one spot swelled up and retained fluid like a blister. It leaked out the plasma when it decided to open. I have a few pics I can post whenever I unload my phone onto the computer. Not super clear images but I'm sure everyone will get the point.

So nasty
 
I get this blister everytime i stretch but the blister dissapears once i finished the session the blister is gone,i have had two bloody experiences while stretching..some toilet paper and the "wound" is gone
 
shortdick;636064 said:
I get this blister everytime i stretch but the blister dissapears once i finished the session the blister is gone,i have had two bloody experiences while stretching..some toilet paper and the "wound" is gone

Yea, it's more like the kind of blister you get from heat. Where the skin raises and forms a dome of fluid. When it pops the fluid seeps out and if it heals right there's mild scarring. This bastard is popped and seeping slowly. Not sure if it's healing well but I don't think it's a great sign that it's still seeping. Going with some neosporin to see how that goes.
 
Ok, so the seeping is apparently done and the wound is shrinking. There doesn't seem to be any scarring, or if there is it doesn't seem noticeable. Really happy the worst of this is over. I can stop worrying about it and get back to what's important. Making my dick fall into the huge category.

Routine seems good. Definitely missing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. Soon enough I can get back to that. Can't wait to get my next measurement. Hoping to break 8.25 within the next two weeks.

Time to get moving
 
So today's routine is going well. It's nice to be able to push things a little closer together and get done with time to spare. I am also happy with the degree of soreness I'm getting. Not dangerous but noticeable. I am hoping that maybe my last measurement will be a little dishonest in the sense that I'd just lost a little and it seems to be the trend that recently lost gains come back a little faster. Would be so cool to hit 8.5 this month. Without extending it's just so much less painful.

The full rotation bundled stretches are really the only tough part. But they feel like they really get the job done. Damn intense. Everything else is pretty much the same and still hits the ligs hard. Heating is going well and the passive stretches leave my flaccid in a nice big way. I am not sure if days off are really necessary. Kinda figure I'll see how I feel in a few days. I doubt I will need more than a day a week at most. And I will probably just do basic stretching anyway. I like the boost to my flaccid hang.

The crater left from the blister is still ugly, but it seems to be closing up throughout the day. I've put my poor schlong through so much crap, and it really hasn't disappointed me in the least. Even aside from the new beefier size, I've got a great dick. Like it was made for pe. It deserves to be huge. Who am I to deny it the chance?

I really see no reason this routine shouldn't work. It's aggressive. It takes advantage of many premises for growth. It gives fatigue and now I don't mind it anywhere near as much. That was such a big rule for me and I let it go. It can be difficult, but if it makes me miserable then I'm not doing it right. I don't "enjoy" [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions, but they're not going to ruin my day. I like edging. Don't mind jelqs. I like the heat, and the passive stretches are really nothing to complain about. Kegals can be good. The most important lesson I learned is to not do things you hate. I ignored it out of desperation, but who should be desperate with a dick over 8 inches long?

So yea, new routine, old lessons, good healing, and nicely sore and fatigued. I feel good about the potential of this routine. Here's hoping I get to the finish line soon.
 
Second day in a row edging has gone too far. I can only guess it's just because I'm a bit pent up because I can normally do hours without a problem. I guess it had been over two weeks since I last let myself go, and I am normally good at sticking to every three days. Oops.

I have actually not noticed any added benefit from being good about that. I guess it's superstition. I'm not exactly thrilled at the lack of control, but I have to kinda guess I just needed the release. It's hard to last when you have it all built up like that. Maybe I'm overly excited with my size and imagining the impact it has on sex. I'm sure I'll get over it. My [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] has been a point of pride since I first fucked. No way I'm letting that be an issue.
 
Longth;636316 said:
Second day in a row edging has gone too far. I can only guess it's just because I'm a bit pent up because I can normally do hours without a problem. I guess it had been over two weeks since I last let myself go, and I am normally good at sticking to every three days. Oops.

I have actually not noticed any added benefit from being good about that. I guess it's superstition. I'm not exactly thrilled at the lack of control, but I have to kinda guess I just needed the release. It's hard to last when you have it all built up like that. Maybe I'm overly excited with my size and imagining the impact it has on sex. I'm sure I'll get over it. My [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] has been a point of pride since I first fucked. No way I'm letting that be an issue.

Then it is giving you confidence at the least, it sounds like it is benefitting you in a mental way.
 
doublelongdaddy;636340 said:
Then it is giving you confidence at the least, it sounds like it is benefitting you in a mental way.

So very much. I seriously love sex like I used to because of all this. Maybe even more just because I almost feel like I have a super power. Freaking love having big meat to throw around.
 
I am every bit as sore from this routine as I was with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] version. I'd say it's going great. I feel I may want to consider lotion for the skin I'm very clearly irritating during my stretches. Other than that, it's a huge relief to be out of extending and still getting the huge fatigue and all that. Blister is still healing, and everything is mostly normal. Feeling like I should do my usual deal of powering through the soreness until Sunday, where I'll take a day off with just the passive stuff to recover. Then do it all over again.

I know the issue with edging boils down to a lack of discipline. I get to a point where I care more about finishing then I care about the potential benefits of not. It's as simple as I screwed up because I wanted to. I know better. So I'm going to go ahead and take care of that today.
 
Longth;636388 said:
So very much. I seriously love sex like I used to because of all this. Maybe even more just because I almost feel like I have a super power. Freaking love having big meat to throw around.

And that is the way it should feel! There is so much more to PE than just the exercises there is a whole mental aspect that brings us gains in different ways. Just becoming bigger is never enough, it also is important to become mentally larger.
 
Like the difference between a chance to just get off and a chance to feel like a legend. It's crazy how different the mere opportunity for sex changes.
 
Longth;636293 said:
I've put my poor schlong through so much crap, and it really hasn't disappointed me in the least. Even aside from the new beefier size, I've got a great dick. Like it was made for pe. It deserves to be huge. Who am I to deny it the chance?

The most important lesson I learned is to not do things you hate. I ignored it out of desperation, but who should be desperate with a dick over 8 inches long?

Here's hoping I get to the finish line soon.

I love all these words. I feel everything you wrote. I hope everything for you brother. If there is a finish line, I hope you reach it.
 
It really is amazing how much crap we give our dicks during pe. I love mine just for being the obvious trooper it has through it all. Seriously some impressively tough equipment we're blessed with.
 
Longth;636458 said:
It really is amazing how much crap we give our dicks during pe. I love mine just for being the obvious trooper it has through it all. Seriously some impressively tough equipment we're blessed with.

yep twisting stretching squeezing,a tough guy between our legs
 
doublelongdaddy;636400 said:
And that is the way it should feel! There is so much more to PE than just the exercises there is a whole mental aspect that brings us gains in different ways. Just becoming bigger is never enough, it also is important to become mentally larger.

yep actually thats a quite important thing the mind,not only getting gains but being mentally capable to face the things that are keeping us down,we should be mentally and physically balanced
 
shortdick;636475 said:
yep actually thats a quite important thing the mind,not only getting gains but being mentally capable to face the things that are keeping us down,we should be mentally and physically balanced

You are growing up young grasshopper! :)
 
So I got me a bitchin hangover today. Nice and nauseous all day. Tired and hot. Yet another plus to my new routine. I can bench myself until later and just space it all closer together.

As a part of my weight loss initiative I'm going to be cutting this out to once every other week. Kinda perfect for me to get a hangover this time, just as a serious discouragement. I rarely actually have a hangover. So hurrah to good timing and a crap day.
 
Longth;636555 said:
So I got me a bitchin hangover today. Nice and nauseous all day. Tired and hot. Yet another plus to my new routine. I can bench myself until later and just space it all closer together.

As a part of my weight loss initiative I'm going to be cutting this out to once every other week. Kinda perfect for me to get a hangover this time, just as a serious discouragement. I rarely actually have a hangover. So hurrah to good timing and a crap day.

Drink a lot of water and rest and the hangover will go away quicker.
 
doublelongdaddy;636573 said:
Drink a lot of water and rest and the hangover will go away quicker.

My classic remedy is usually just a massive amount of fluid before bed. Guess I didn't have enough last night. Might've been the nasty frozen pizza I had. I usually make dorito nachos or some other food that's bad for the body but good for the soul.

Regardless I figure today as a light day where I give the skin and ligs a little reprieve from my caveman ass ripping everything out of place. I am kinda thinking of making it my norm to have one day of the classical all direction stretches a week. Then I get one day a week of actual rest.

I'm thinking 4 reps of stretching for 15 seconds in 9 directions. I'm not sure about the number of sets a day. It may be variable based on how much soreness they give on their own. It is meant to be a bridge day so I'm probably going to stick with 3 sets every light day. Every week will be 3 on, one light, 2 on, one off. That day off has literally caused gains in the past. I want to see if it does it again. Lord knows all this stretching is killer enough to merit one day a week of literally resting.

Can't seem to find any information on skin burn, which I'd noticed but hadn't put any thought into. I'm going to be dealing with that with so much bundled work and the fact I use an unusual grip. I expect to have to deal with a little turkey neck the way I do it. I've just done it before and it's just not that hard to do and actually helps with girth training. Big giant whatevers all around on that issue.

And probably the second to last update on this issue, but the blister is all but closed up. I didn't do anything special to deal with it. It has healed fairly well on it's own. I am not sure if scarring will be an issue but the area that has healed is a bit lighter than normal. Might just be it's new skin, so we'll see how it matures. Seriously need to be done with this so I can do some pounding.

All work and no play makes dick a dull boy
 
Another day another millimeter. Moving forward with the routine and trying to do a better job spacing it out. I'd like to space it out so the first and last stretch are 12 hours apart normally. Every single little work out feels like a big deal. I can't wait to see what I'm working with next weekend. Hopefully bi weekly measurements are still meaningful. I just want to see that I'm moving in the right direction. Although a surprise 8.5 would be awful nice.

I can dream
 
you are disciplined and the way you see how gains can get to you is wise definitely need a state of mind similar to yours......:)
 
I appreciate that but I'm not incredibly unique or special with pe. I just do what I think is the right thing and do my best to suck it up when the suck times come. Thousands of less chatty people do it every year.

Really tired with one session and a little hormone boost before bed. And a shower. I should have done it a few hours ago but I procrastinated until I realized I was beat. Got a lovely chunk of flaccid going on thanks mostly to heat. Really want to make more of a point of getting in the passive stretches. A few hours today has made things noticeably floppier.

On to it then.
 
One set left today and then tomorrow off. I really like how strong the routine is but it's tough. Seriously just want to skip the last set and be done but that's how you get nowhere.

The blister is closed and all that's left is some flakey skin that will probably wash off in the shower. I don't think there's any real scarring either. Once again my cock overcomes. Pictures from this fiasco will surely be added when I get to it.

I'm getting a bit of turtling which was never a problem when I was using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Really missing the constant pump from it. Might start that back up tomorrow night for funky monkey boom boom time. Still think I need to find some kind of mild [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Something a little more active than wrapping and definitely something painless. Google is on my horizon.

Ok... Enough delay. Gotta go get it done.
 
Longth;636754 said:
One set left today and then tomorrow off. I really like how strong the routine is but it's tough. Seriously just want to skip the last set and be done but that's how you get nowhere.

The blister is closed and all that's left is some flakey skin that will probably wash off in the shower. I don't think there's any real scarring either. Once again my cock overcomes. Pictures from this fiasco will surely be added when I get to it.

I'm getting a bit of turtling which was never a problem when I was using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Really missing the constant pump from it. Might start that back up tomorrow night for funky monkey boom boom time. Still think I need to find some kind of mild [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Something a little more active than wrapping and definitely something painless. Google is on my horizon.

Ok... Enough delay. Gotta go get it done.

Your dedication is an inspiration bro.
 
I got a pic today of close to nbp that seriously looks like a 9er. I really need to figure out how to get pictures on here.

I showed my girl and the look was nothing short of total shock. Literally giggly. I think it's making her nervous. I am always a little surprised when I pull a Ron jeremy to peak at what's really up. But that picture really makes it all so irreversibly clear how pe pays off.
 
JakeM82;636756 said:
Your dedication is an inspiration bro.

Your success, articulation, attitude and advice are an inspiration beyond pe. You add a dimension to these forums I don't begin to scratch.

Glad you're here
 
Longth;636761 said:
Your success, articulation, attitude and advice are an inspiration beyond pe. You add a dimension to these forums I don't begin to scratch.

Glad you're here

Wow, thanks man.
 
Finally had sex this morning. No pump or anything because it was spontaneous. Kegals are finally getting my eq back up to what it was like years ago, and that's awesome. Only way it could have been better is with a chunky pump but it was nice to just not slip out during the spooning position. Amazing what a little extra can do.

A nice day off from the rigors of pe. 7 weeks more until I get to the beginning of the end of my length work. Still kinda chumping out on weight loss. Really need to make a plan. Might as well try to build some muscle while I'm at it. Got to get back to the way I like it. Maybe even a bit further.

The hardest part is the first step.
 
The hardest part is the first step yep specially when we talk about about pe i had this 11 eleven days break and i had a lot toughts,doubts and ideas,now i want to start again,i hate taking breaks,but sometimes some circunstances get on my way,i want to measure in april 11 i was supposed to measure before,but because of the damn break i took,now have to wait until april 10th..yeah need no more breaks ever hehe
 
It's true. It's damn near impossible to make gains with time off like that. I was lucky enough to get an eighth when I had the week of down time. But I'm positive it stole some gains to have that week lost. You ride the horse to have the cock. And horses buck like an sob when you try to take it. Weirdest metaphor I've ever made.

I think I understand shooting now. It may be tmi but I have done so twice today. Extremely horny and I hurt the lady a little. Not anything unusual but I always try to give a little healing time after sex. You know, like 12 hours to be a gentlemen. Anyway, the second time was completely intended. It's hard to explain but it's like charging it up and then firing. I was wondering why I wasn't a wizard with it by now with all the kegals, apparently takes a little trick.

Another benefit of kegals. The freaking giving tree of pe. I love you kegals. Never leave me.
 
kegels are key and well Gonna restart today...i had a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session today and it felt great....:)
 
Figured out pictures, so here's my most recent for now. Yes, I'm definitely happy with it.

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Longth;636874 said:
Figured out pictures, so here's my most recent for now. Yes, I'm definitely happy with it.

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Longth;636874 said:
Figured out pictures, so here's my most recent for now. Yes, I'm definitely happy with it.

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Nope. Damnit
 
If anyone has a tip on how to post pics from android I'd be really grateful. Maybe it's because my phone is dying or there's a timer on pictures...

It says it's uploading and when it finishes the bar disappears and there's just a very tiny box.
 


HAHA!!! FUCKING BASTARD!!! I WIN!!!

Anonymous image hosting. Go internet.

Anyway... As you can SEE, the thing is to the point where it's hard to deny I am getting pretty up there. I am extremely happy with my progress. Hard to mind the work when this is the result.

Now that I've figured a way to post pics I will get to a few more tomorrow. Was really starting to bug me.
 
My length at the end of November. Wearing a ring, at 7.5x6





My length right before blister after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. End of January.





Blister from day one.


Blister during draining



That's about all of them. Definitely can tell there's been length gain. I have one more on my PC from right before I started back up. Might get to that later.
 
Sorry about that blister, ouch! Your penis is massive and the vascular look is amazing! Thanks for posting and helping inspire others.
 
I guess I have to agree at this point. I'm a greedy sob. 7 weeks more of trying to gain and that's what I'm sticking with. If that puts me over 9, so be it. If not, I'd still be a little hard pressed to be upset with all that length. Just going to reclaim some lost girth and be on my merry way.

Or try the adult entertainment industry

I have found a way to do kegals erect and I think that's the next step for me there. Seems to be a lot more effective than flaccid kegals. It's a sort of side goal of mine to get a certain look to the PC muscle. I really don't see a reason kegals can't be a part of a fitness routine later on as well.

I also just purchased baseball bat weights for a passive way to maintain elongation. If my method of securing it proves to be effective I may try more weight for a little extra potential gain. Odds are that the most I'd be able to fit is about 5 to 6.5 pounds on, and that's only if I'm seriously lucky with my idea for securing the weight.

Those suction rings from vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] may be useful after all.

I'm trying out lecithin as well. I'll be grinding it up with a mortar and pestle and putting it into gel caps. Lecithin potentially has benefits for healing and cementing, but that remains to be seen for me quite yet. The point is optimization to it's potential. Picturing everything working as it could, 8 inches nbpel could actually be possible for me within 2 months.

And then I could lose weight and add girth and become the white Mandingo. Or at least Lexington Steele.

Ain't nobody wanna get like shorty mac
 
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