To 8x6, AND BEYOND!!!

[Longth]

It seems that the lig press stretches are starting to lose their efficacy. The same old approach to it doesn't hit as hard. I am going to try a few things to get the intensity back up, but this is probably bound to happen as I make gains. Almost like it's kinda tapped out for gains.

At least if I find there is no more point to them the bundled stretches still feel effective. Maybe I will have to start doing lig presses during those. And make more use of the full rotation bundles. Seems like it could be a good way to evolve the routine. Just do more rotations as needed.

It's a little concerning but now I have a plan. I can just make half rotation take the place of no rotation, full rotation take the place of half, and start 1.5 rotation in place of the full. Maybe I'll be conditioned for 3 bundles in the end after all. I always thought that sounded crazy. Bundles are cool.

 

[Longth]

My first [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session in what seems like forever. Even just the ring before hand gave me a nice chub. I freaking love the pump I get from these things. Always makes it look a little stout. I know better than to think that now. But wow what a batch of extra beef.

Maybe I will actually make a pic of the full effect of the little girth work I've been doing. I think the comparison might shine a little light on just how good these things combine. Plus it's huge looking and who wouldn't want to share that?

 

[Longth]

Well they're not great or 100% erect but you can probably understand it from these.

 

[DLD]

Well they're not great or 100% erect but you can probably understand it from these.

You have great depth to your girth also and the veins make it look even meaner!

 

[Longth]

Yea it makes things pretty tight. Makes it look less long though. Pretty mean optical illusion. I had zero turtling after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] though. Really a great tool for me.

I can't believe I'm still doing this. I started in mid July last year with an eye on getting my girth huge. Here I am at the end of February waiting on some iron baseball weights I plan to hang from my junk trying to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] up my length routine. And my plan takes me into a year of pe pretty easy.

And the sad part is my nbp is still not as good as it was at 7.5. I can see myself doing something with pe indefinitely. Like 10 minutes of stretching and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day is probably a permanent fixture. Even after weight loss and specifically getting back to under a half inch fat pad. Until then my bpel is just a number that only I can really appreciate.

I'm going through my usual pre measurement phase where I feel like I haven't made any progress at all. I really don't like how that keeps happening. Maybe the girth throws me off. I really don't know, but it makes me nuts every time I think about it.

So I guess I should just get back to doing something about it.

I actually bought 3 weights that total 4.8 pounds. It's going to depend on how well I can secure it, but I like the idea of weights better than the way I was doing extending. Seems like it would give more consistent tension. If I can wrap my head around affixing it...

If length masters grew on trees...

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

first pic looks mean..conngrats

 

[Longth]

Thanks. I couldn't resist taking a picture when I saw it like that. It was like beast mode or something. I'd like those dimensions with extra girth though.

Good fatigue today. Has been very productive in getting away from measurement anxiety. Particularly noticing how far down my thigh the flaccid stretches go. I'm 6 feet tall and I get a noticeable amount farther than halfway down my thigh. Very neat observation for me.

Skin burn seems to be pretty intense by the end of the day. I'm looking into a few home remedies for it to make it less so. If it's any good I'll be sure to share. Bundled stretches are definitely wonderful for length gains, so no matter what, the discomfort is totally worth it.

My weights arrive tomorrow night, so the odds are I am going to troubleshoot keeping it on tomorrow and really start using it on Thursday. I really like the idea so hopefully it doesn't take too much fussing with. I will nearly definitely write more on that as the situation develops today.

Thus concludes my millionth post.

 

[Longth]

So I have been dealing with the post shave stubble today. It goes up a fair amount my shaft so bundles seriously feel like fire right now. I don't really care though, I know how good bundles are so there's no chance I'm stopping.

Finally decided to just make one day every weekend a passive day just using [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Just for the sake of recovering from skin burn and giving the ligs a breather so I don't tear anything. I really just like a day to just get myself in order every week. No need for any of this 2 days a week stuff. One day is concession enough.

My weights are "out for delivery" and I've got the powder for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] waiting. Very eager to see if I can get it to work with my first idea. If not I've got some contingencies on hand. No matter what I am going to be using that sucker as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. While avoiding getting the heating pad on it cause that sucker is iron. Lol

I also found out today I am pretty close to actually winning the monthly posting contest. I really hadn't even checked the thread before today because I don't generally win anything like that. I am kinda fighting a compulsion to spam the boards because a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] sounds like the best possible thing I could add to this routine. It's not easy to resist at all.

In fact everyone should thank me for not doing it right now. ;p

 

[Longth]

So I've got my new weights. As I suspected, they're a bit wider than you could possibly need off the bat(har har). So I made the inside diameter as small as I think I need it by wrapping gauze around it. It took multiple layers but it is now small enough to grip three fingers very strongly on it's own. The odds are that may be too tight, so I will have to fiddle with it for a while, but I at least have a plan.

Once again thinking how useful a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] could be. I can imagine this being a complete non issue. I guess I'll have to see if I have any luck in the tank.

 

[DLD]

So I've got my new weights. As I suspected, they're a bit wider than you could possibly need off the bat(har har). So I made the inside diameter as small as I think I need it by wrapping gauze around it. It took multiple layers but it is now small enough to grip three fingers very strongly on it's own. The odds are that may be too tight, so I will have to fiddle with it for a while, but I at least have a plan.

Once again thinking how useful a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] could be. I can imagine this being a complete non issue. I guess I'll have to see if I have any luck in the tank.

Yu can use your weights with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] as a hanger. I can hang 50 pounds no problem using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].

 

[Longth]

Yu can use your weights with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] as a hanger. I can hang 50 pounds no problem using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words].

That's a monstrous amount of weight capacity for what it's designed for. What originally got me interested was the high capability for expressive stretching. Then I started to understand the impact it could have on bundled stretches. For such a simple looking device it really seems to have some serious versatility.

Like you guys reinvented the hand.

 

[Longth]

OK.

This is how the "light" day is going to work this week.

One set of my stretching routine early, one later, the usual [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] edging warm down, and the rest of the time figuring out how to keep this weight attached with a limited supply of common household supplies. I need to figure out a definitive way to handle this by Monday.

I've come to the conclusion that this recent time away from extending has really just been a transitional period. I am officially recommitting myself to the idea of another 2 months of 8 hours a day extending as of Monday. However the hell it has to happen. I didn't put in all this time and energy to get screwed out of the best possible routine I can do, so screw it. None of this has been easy and I've managed to persevere through it. Why stop now?

My girth is back to it's lovely ridiculous self. Without all the chapping and dryness my girth sessions are fun again. And watching the elephant trunk flop out after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is damn gratifying. Really can't say enough about that device. I definitely wouldn't have expected me to be using a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] in my lifetime, but that thing is a monster.

I'm back to expecting no new gains, even though my nbp is definitely around 7 again. Doesn't look it because of the girth but it is. My dick looks average on me. Which should be fine because I'm not average sized. But who would settle for average when they know they can have more?

This really has been an interesting experience that has shown me a lot about myself. I have no quit in me and I'm proud of that. I will succeed or die trying, and that's just how it is. Aside from a bigger dick, that's the best takeaway I get from this experience. That alone is absolutely worth it.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Thanks for your words...

 

[JakeM82]

This really has been an interesting experience that has shown me a lot about myself. I have no quit in me and I'm proud of that. I will succeed or die trying, and that's just how it is. Aside from a bigger dick, that's the best takeaway I get from this experience. That alone is absolutely worth it.

Get some bro!

 

[Longth]

So I just did one big session today. Think I wanna stick with that idea because it felt awesome in the sense of making gains. Wrapping up every day like that would just feel right. We'll see how it effect the rest of the work, but I'm thinking 3 sets twice a day and finishing with a round of 4 sets and my warm down every day.

A set is 4 bundled fulcrums straight out left right up and down for 15 seconds
4 unbundled fulcrums same way
4 30 second straight out full rotation bundles with whatever tricks my dick can handle, like dlds double tunica stretch or a Mandingo. This part is a work in progress.

So doing 10 sets a day seems like it would have a satisfaction guaranteed. I am hoping to also use the weights I got for several hours. Rest of the week is all about figuring out the best way to do that for longer durations. Other than that I'm really going to dig into wrapping for my overnight wasted time.

My lone workout felt great today. Girth work went perfect and the pump is just crazy. Really glad I tried it that way today.

 

[JakeM82]

You're crushing everyday as per usual. Keep it up man, your girls not gonna know what hit her in a few months!

 

[DLD]

So I just did one big session today. Think I wanna stick with that idea because it felt awesome in the sense of making gains. Wrapping up every day like that would just feel right. We'll see how it effect the rest of the work, but I'm thinking 3 sets twice a day and finishing with a round of 4 sets and my warm down every day.

A set is 4 bundled fulcrums straight out left right up and down for 15 seconds
4 unbundled fulcrums same way
4 30 second straight out full rotation bundles with whatever tricks my dick can handle, like dlds double tunica stretch or a Mandingo. This part is a work in progress.

So doing 10 sets a day seems like it would have a satisfaction guaranteed. I am hoping to also use the weights I got for several hours. Rest of the week is all about figuring out the best way to do that for longer durations. Other than that I'm really going to dig into wrapping for my overnight wasted time.

My lone workout felt great today. Girth work went perfect and the pump is just crazy. Really glad I tried it that way today.

I too love long intense workouts, this is how I made the gains I have. Some men get too fatigued but not me, I can train for hours on end. Good to see you having such good results with this type of training.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Yep back in the day i had some spare time and i used to spend three hours exercising..that was a great feeling

 

[Longth]

Well my insomnia has me back on my rollercoaster. And not of love (say what). I've dealt with this the whole way through so it's not a huge deal to me. Just annoying as hell. Before anybody jumps in with all the wonderful things that help you retain a sleep schedule, I have to warn you, I've tried it all a lot more than once.

Sigh

I'm trying the new approach to the sets. 3, 3, and 4. Making a total of 10 that used to be 8. Definitely feels more progressive to me. I'm starting to see a little more give with rotations of bundles. I would be a bit surprised if that weren't a good sign. I've really only had 2 months of length gains, and I'm doubtful before every measurement. I wouldn't even venture a guess as to what the ruler will tell me on Sunday.

I just did some edging, because whatever it's late, and I don't think I actually remember how big it used to be. I don't think it actually registered with me that I'd have no real clue if I have made gains because I've watched it change so slowly. Between that and the fat pad it's pretty much worthless for me to guesstimate. So with that awareness I am going to try to let go of eyeballing a little bit. All it does is add confusion. I've got a good routine. I'd be surprised to have not climbed at all.

In regards to the skin burn, I am pretty sure the irritation from it was causing turtling. I have started back up with vitamin e, aloe vera lotion and there's virtually no irritation and the turtling has stopped. It was a little better just from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions but it's now hanging much better even before that. That stuff is seriously great for pe. I'd recommend it to anyone.

So Monday I am starting the last 2 month plan I am going to have for length. The goal is 9+ and the method is everything I'm doing now plus [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] 8 hours a day. Maybe I will still incorporate the tucking I've been doing at night, or maybe I will stick with using a ring during sleep. After a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I usually maintain about 6 inches bpfl. So it's not like it's not helpful.

After that two months the plan is the same. Slowly remove [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and then slowly remove stretches until it's one set in the morning and one set at night. If I continue to gain through most of that process so be it, but that's the plan. I can't wait to get back to edging like a lunatic for girth. Totally on the horizon now.

 

[Longth]

I too love long intense workouts, this is how I made the gains I have. Some men get too fatigued but not me, I can train for hours on end. Good to see you having such good results with this type of training.

We're just not squeemish about a little intensity. Those are always the best kinds of sessions. Leaves little doubt you're making an impact. After that one time I've decided to make that the normal finale. Just not as good the other way.

 

[DLD]

We're just not squeemish about a little intensity. Those are always the best kinds of sessions. Leaves little doubt you're making an impact. After that one time I've decided to make that the normal finale. Just not as good the other way.

Yeah, and I think as time goes on, with consistent training through the fatigue, it becomes easier and easier.

 

[Longth]

Yeah, and I think as time goes on, with consistent training through the fatigue, it becomes easier and easier.

Maybe, but I'm definitely a noob comparatively. Maybe one day I'll say screw it and just get to the land of undeniably huge myself.

So today is the last day before measuring. The intensity of my routine merits it in my eyes. Plus I feel like bi weekly measurements give me a chance to avoid wasting time. I can definitely make some adjustments if I haven't climbed the remote at all in two weeks. Obviously not expecting huge change, but it's a crucial point for me to know I'm moving in the right direction.

The first completed day of 10 sets felt like a good one for gains as you might expect. I feel like more would be too much and less just wouldn't cut it. I am able to get just under that line on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] where it starts to round off at the top when fully compressed. It's been a kind of subconscious goal to hit that line. Of course when I do that the goal will be to stay at that line the whole pump.

My numerical goal is still 9bpel by 7mseg. But I'm going to say now if I hit 8 nbp I kinda need to stop. I know how dense my fat pad is. I don't have the skills or repoir someone like dld does. Going any bigger would just wind up hurting me. I don't know why I want to, but I definitely get why I shouldn't.

So my grand master plan for attaching the weight is very simpleton. I put on the suction ring for extra support, put the weight around my base, and stuff hand towels into the free space until it starts to be snug. Then I move it up to the suction ring and get it as snug as I can with more hand towel and voila. A big heavy mess hanging off my junk. Not sure how bad it will be with circulation, but I'm going to find out.

Such a weird hobby. Lol

 

[Longth]

Finally done for the day. Tomorrow will just be testing the weights out. Really tired. Good pump though

 

[DLD]

Finally done for the day. Tomorrow will just be testing the weights out. Really tired. Good pump though

What about the new measurements?

 

[Longth]

What about the new measurements?

Later tonight. I like to just give myself some time away from the routine so my measurements are less a post workout temp gain thing. I saw it last night after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] with good eq and I really don't know what to think other than maybe I'm getting fatter in the fat pad. :\

So I'm going to try to get in a few hours in hanging that weight just to test it out. Big factor for my application of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. Really just want to see how long it takes to get to the point of way too uncomfortable. Not even going for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or anything after.

My pelvic floor was so fatigued once I got to bed it felt tingly. Earlier on in the night I had a little throbbing in the area. I've never heard of overtraining the PC muscle and I'm fine now, so I don't know. Kinda neat and odd at the same time.

Just hoping for some climb up that ladder today. I like to see that pushing through those "I don't wanna" moments are worth it.

 

[Longth]

Actually, I'm going to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] a few hours before. No reason not to, it's never impacted my length before. Kinda pushing it with the weight hanging but I plan to do that on Sundays anyway. Feel like I'm rolling a dice hoping for an 8.5

Gotta beat that remote!

 

[Longth]

So my idea works fine for the weights. Its actually painless also. I am just going to need to keep an eye on circulation but this is actually totally usable and way less dreadful than the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. This is definitely going to be the easy part.

So yay it actually works great. I will post some pics of it set up. Kinda funny but whatever if I have supplementary [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] again. Might actually be a good month.

 

[Longth]

Seems I'm back to under 8.

So for all that effort, negative results. I am ready to accept this now. I'm going to be starting my breaking down of this into maintenance tomorrow. We'll see if anything actually sticks, but I'm definitely not expecting it at this point. Even if I go about many months of effort to retain it.

I did what I could

 

[JakeM82]

Seems I'm back to under 8.

So for all that effort, negative results. I am ready to accept this now. I'm going to be starting my breaking down of this into maintenance tomorrow. We'll see if anything actually sticks, but I'm definitely not expecting it at this point. Even if I go about many months of effort to retain it.

I did what I could

Don't get discouraged brother. It's a minor setback, let's see if DLD can help you with your routine to get you gaining again.

Remember in the initial [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] write-up, when DLD was in the discovery phase and trying to find what routines worked and didn't? He lost something like 1.5" doing bad routines and not following the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] methodology. There are probably just some adjustments that need to be made for your body.

You've got this man, and the brotherhood is behind you.

 

[Longth]

It just implies the only thing that was working was the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that was ripping skin off my head daily. Not exactly ideal. The absolute best thing I probably could do is grab a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], and I just don't see myself being able to afford it. So I can try a butt load of hanging with the weight, which does have the ideal amount of grams, but other than that it seems like I have more control over my girth.

So that's what I will do. Probably a few rounds of bundled stretching before girth work which may or may not compliment it and just hanging that weight with heat all day. I don't want to seem biased, but length work is kinda pointless with my foreskin slippage. A [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] seems like a potential fix, but I'm too broke for all that biz.

It is what it is.

 

[Longth]

Took the day off to reset myself. Things have been very out of control in my life and making the gains was giving me something to look forward to. Dire straits in finding positives before the measurement and now that I've regressed it seems kinda pointless. I can't really do much more than I was doing for manual stretches and those alone are clearly ineffective for me. Glad I didn't waste a month, but I am not even close to rebounding well. So tired of chaos and instability.

It's occurred to me that I've been using the forum too much as an escape. At this point I clearly shouldn't be giving out any tips because I am pretty much clueless and I am not in an encouraging mood. I know how I am, and my mood that closest resembles a black hole is floating around on the forefront. Nobody needs that. It was pretty nice to feel like I was doing something that was advancing me personally. It's certainly not the root of my mood, but it's definitely a downer to feel a loss of control here.

Thus concludes the description of my current state.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Definitely some bros may feel the same way me included,my life is way too far from being great,succesful,beautiful etc etc,im dead broke,i have no money,no relationships,almost friendless,and the job if that thing can be called a job and i make very very little money working there,besides my PE life is so full doubts,obstacles,interruptions and a lot more,my life is way too uncertain and i have no idea what is going to happen tommorrow..but i wont quit i want to keep on going...

You have a ton of opportunities open your mind start a new routine ask about the changes you can make in your routine...

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Took the day off to reset myself. Things have been very out of control in my life and making the gains was giving me something to look forward to. Dire straits in finding positives before the measurement and now that I've regressed it seems kinda pointless. I can't really do much more than I was doing for manual stretches and those alone are clearly ineffective for me. Glad I didn't waste a month, but I am not even close to rebounding well. So tired of chaos and instability.

It's occurred to me that I've been using the forum too much as an escape. At this point I clearly shouldn't be giving out any tips because I am pretty much clueless and I am not in an encouraging mood. I know how I am, and my mood that closest resembles a black hole is floating around on the forefront. Nobody needs that. It was pretty nice to feel like I was doing something that was advancing me personally. It's certainly not the root of my mood, but it's definitely a downer to feel a loss of control here.

Thus concludes the description of my current state.

Dont give in

 

[VoorheesXIII]

Took the day off to reset myself. Things have been very out of control in my life and making the gains was giving me something to look forward to. Dire straits in finding positives before the measurement and now that I've regressed it seems kinda pointless. I can't really do much more than I was doing for manual stretches and those alone are clearly ineffective for me. Glad I didn't waste a month, but I am not even close to rebounding well. So tired of chaos and instability.

It's occurred to me that I've been using the forum too much as an escape. At this point I clearly shouldn't be giving out any tips because I am pretty much clueless and I am not in an encouraging mood. I know how I am, and my mood that closest resembles a black hole is floating around on the forefront. Nobody needs that. It was pretty nice to feel like I was doing something that was advancing me personally. It's certainly not the root of my mood, but it's definitely a downer to feel a loss of control here.

Thus concludes the description of my current state.

We all get to that place, i was there when i last measured and took a week off, length training can be a bastard sometimes, that's why I'm just doing girth for a little while.

 

[Longth]

Judging by how things feel, it seems likely that my initial gains came from straightening out the area where the exit point is. There was a distinct curve to it and that's no longer the case. I have a BPFSL over 8.6 inches, so I figure maybe I can squeeze out a little more gain through erect stretching. Still figure on using bundled stretches exclusively for manual length work and to potentially aid in girth gains and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I'm going to be experimenting with a few ideas for different types of erect stretching as well. I plan on doing 3 half hour sets of edging per day with 10 minutes each time available to try things out without the ring. Throw in [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for 8 hours a day and probably 15 minutes of bundled stretches and we will see how that goes. I've also got a thought or two for adding more weight. Also going back to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day and using a ring at night. All that considered, it's still going to be way less of a pain in the ass than what I've been doing. The plan for going full throttle with all that is 3 months, as that will more so be the marker for when I restart girth work.

Still abhorrently down. Not sure when I will start this up. I'm in maintenance mode until I do. Today I just did some light why not stretches and did edging for an hour. The mood always passes eventually. I've gained a little speed with that in recent years. Really annoying because I've always been this way. There is no cure for a mind that is magnetically drawn to emphatically stating the obvious on a loop. The stank has hit of late and it is foul as it gets. I get it brain. Shut up and make me a plan to get a billion dollars already. Do something useful for a change.

Even better, I find it depressing that I'm not how I am when I'm in a good mood. Like that's not ridiculous. I kinda like that guy. This guy is just a huge downer that never has any fun. I do not prefer this guy. Introspection is a trap.

I've been through worse. This too shall pass. Insert cliche here. I know all that. How do I make when it's over into right now?

 

[Longth]

We all get to that place, i was there when i last measured and took a week off, length training can be a bastard sometimes, that's why I'm just doing girth for a little while.

The annoying part is there's most likely a way around the plateau and it's probably glaringly obvious to someone else. Girth work is so simple it's ridiculous. Pressure pressure pressure. Make pressure. Also pressure. Length work has the ligaments, which can only get you so far and only if you're a wizard with relaxing the pelvic floor. Really creating new tissue rather than just revealing a greater portion is a process nobody would envy. If expressive stretching is actually a functional notion, there's no doubt that would be the path to take once you've straightened out the exit point. At least, if you don't want to spend years committing yourself to a modern variation of an ancient tribal method.

And here I go again. I can't figure out a damn thing else in my life so let's try and tackle the great length conundrum. I'm also clearly missing something. So my distraction now feels like something I could use a distraction from.

I'd sleep but I might have nightmares I need to be distracted from.

I'm basically making fun of myself at this point. Ridiculous.

 

[Longth]

And here's the worst night in years.

And I'm freaking trying.

Wtf... Too much at once universe. I still freaking breathe after all

 

[JakeM82]

And here's the worst night in years.

And I'm freaking trying.

Wtf... Too much at once universe. I still freaking breathe after all

Sorry things are tough right now bro. Settle back and try to focus on the good. We have a tendency as humans to magnify the problems of our life over all the good things that might be happening as well. For example if I take blank white board and draw a single black dot on the board, then ask a group of people "What's on this board?", everyone will say a black dot. No one usually takes the time to look at all the white space that was there. We do the same things with the problems of our lives brother.

You have a roof over your head? Food in your stomach? Money in your pocket? A beating heart? Great, then we can work through all this other stuff that's going on. Take a step back, take a deep breath, realize that every mountain can be climbed, even Everest with the right equipment and dedication. You've got this bro!

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

And here's the worst night in years.

And I'm freaking trying.

Wtf... Too much at once universe. I still freaking breathe after all

well i get you i have spent years years going nowhere man,now im getting a brutal awakening,being basically an outcast is not a great thing believe me,there are so many things i have to solve in my life too and i just cant for now its a matter of time, work and willpower,and real support too, are part of the solution i only can pray to God and see what i can do,besides i have been dealing whit a horrible tootache since last night and is fecking killing me...

 

[Longth]

So I think the worst of it is over and some degree of normalcy will start to creep back in. Don't judge me, I'm bi polar. I also have no real control other than being able to retreat from everything. It comes down to necessity because of how talented I am at being a downer. It didn't help that it has been completely out of my hands, but as down as I get I never actually give up. It just makes everything seem impossible.

I have still been doing maintenance and I still plan to get right back into girth with some intensity for a few months. I have looked farther into the alternatives but it doesn't seem like much out there is going to help. Other than spending 400 dollars on a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I'm a bit out of luck. I don't honestly expect those kind of results from what's basically a heavy sock, but it's worth a shot. I am not going to do anything that makes me miserable with all this.

I figure I'll get started back up full strength on Monday. If the edging sessions are any indication, I am doing just fine on the girth side of the ball. Perhaps more length is a futile persuit without an actual [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. It seems I haven't lost as much as I originally thought either. I am still slightly over 8 bpel and it hasn't changed at all since that discovery. I still find it a little disheartening that I am most likely stuck about where I am, but it's at least a little less so to see I'm retaining some.

So far as my presence on the forum goes, I feel like it's better for me to try and focus more on what's around me. The forums run quite well without me shooting around blasting literal theories and my unusual work in their faces. No need for me to get so wrapped up in it. I am an overzealous kind of person and that's really just not good to be like on the internet. I still plan to update with all my failures and success. Just in case it's useful for someone else down the line and to keep it all straight. Lots of information here already so it'd be a waste. But yea. This is for me now. My mind is going to stick to this little thread.

 

[BornInFigi]

Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.

 

[DLD]

Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.

Sometimes the Universe throws us a curve ball to see how we might react to it, when I see such tenacity I know you guys are passing these tests.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

well being 8 bpel means that you are 7.3 or something nbpel thast great IMO dont get too obsessed thast not a healthy thing at all,when im too obsessed about gains i get really stressed and even my body gets fatigued,i deal whit a lot of stuff too,bad moments,dissapointments,and the list goes on.i wish i was in a great relationship whit a beautiful girl and stuff but i dont..

 

[Longth]

Glad you can have a positive mental attitude through what you have perceived as a short coming. I feel like it's a win for you tho. You stuck it out through and through. I'm my book, that's a win.

I'd rather be Clint Eastwood about it and face every adversity with a, "do you feel lucky?", kind of attitude. My brain just doesn't call on dopamine the way a normal person does. I'm more likely to draw adrenaline if I don't resist. That makes a person look crazy as shit from the outside. Resisting urges from adrenaline feels like a denial of a reflex. You want me to smash that wall? I probably shouldn't, it might scare someone, but yea that sounds REALLY fun right now.

My fat pad is over an inch also. That's not necessarily permanent but we'll see where the peak is with my determination this time.

 

[Longth]

Alright. So here's where I'm at.

I want 9x7.

I am confident beyond expression I can get whatever girth I want with my methods. I record an 8 inch base girth routinely.

Length is less easy. I have nothing but a few common gimmicks. I have a limited selection of ideas to turn what I have into what I want.

Any ideas for the already lot theorized viewing my little thread?

 

[DLD]

Alright. So here's where I'm at.

I want 9x7.

I am confident beyond expression I can get whatever girth I want with my methods. I record an 8 inch base girth routinely.

Length is less easy. I have nothing but a few common gimmicks. I have a limited selection of ideas to turn what I have into what I want.

Any ideas for the already lot theorized viewing my little thread?

What are you now doing for length work?

 

[Longth]

With my slip and slide foreskin there's not much really available. Manual stretching has basically been tested and ruled out as they're not working for me. All I am considering is using my weight for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and trying erect stretching in an expressive kind of way along side actually stretching it outward. I have virtually no money to throw at it now. So it looks like I'm at the end of my possibilities. I'm certainly not going to use the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again, and I have never been able to use a regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because my foreskin just won't allow it.

It really is like pull it back taught and it slips forward. Pull it back a little same thing. Leave it over the head and the head slips out. Freaking annoying.

 

[BornInFigi]

With my slip and slide foreskin there's not much really available. Manual stretching has basically been tested and ruled out as they're not working for me. All I am considering is using my weight for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] and trying erect stretching in an expressive kind of way along side actually stretching it outward. I have virtually no money to throw at it now. So it looks like I'm at the end of my possibilities. I'm certainly not going to use the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] again, and I have never been able to use a regular [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because my foreskin just won't allow it.

It really is like pull it back taught and it slips forward. Pull it back a little same thing. Leave it over the head and the head slips out. Freaking annoying.

Is a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] out of the question? I know nothing about having forskin, but I think voorhees is uncut? Maybe? He's going bananas. Erect, base or expressive stretching could be a cue for you. I attach my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] very close to the base for all stretches and hanging too. I'd say you can win one in the contest, but I'm in such dire need to win the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] in March- can you wait till April ? 😉

 

[Longth]

Well anyway, I just had my first flawless late night edging session in months. Using the ring intermittently and experimenting with an erect fulcrum stretch. Really have no idea if it's helpful but it did feel like it was pulling at everything. Kinda works on the same premise as a Mandingo stretch except there's obviously an erection rather than bundling. Routine is going to be just as intense but definitely different and vastly more enjoyable..

Constantly using heating pad whenever I get a chance. Also as warm up and warm down.

Manual routine
5 minutes of bundled stretches.
30 minutes edging with a ring 10 on 5 off.
During 5 off minutes, erect fulcrum at the base for two and a half minutes. Jelqs and erect stretching the other 2 and a half minutes.

The rest
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
8 hours minimum weight hanging [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words].
1 break mid day will include another round of the manual routine.
After finishing [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], one last round of the manual routine and another 15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

Off day every Sunday. 3 month routine provided I see some gain in bpel during measurements. If not I will continue to try other variations of erect stretching that I haven't thought of yet.

My base girth is consistently over the size of my o grip with a ring on. It's a bit ridiculous. But ideally I am looking for 7 mid shaft. I'm not doubtful I can manage that considering the typical expansion I get. If all goes well I will probably revert to a maintenance routine of basic stretches and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. Edging with a ring isn't really work to me so that's just going to happen.

Plan is still to start Monday. Now that it's all figured out it should be pretty easy going.

 

[Longth]

Is a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] out of the question? I know nothing about having forskin, but I think voorhees is uncut? Maybe? He's going bananas. Erect, base or expressive stretching could be a cue for you. I attach my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] very close to the base for all stretches and hanging too. I'd say you can win one in the contest, but I'm in such dire need to win the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] in March- can you wait till April ? 😉

I guess I didn't see this last night? Weird.

Yea, you don't have to worry about me with any contest type of deal. Between my lack of any real confidence in my understanding and that I'm just plain not able to make 400 posts in a month I am virtually a non issue. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] at 179 I think it is, is just not within my means. Much like anything else on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words], it's a clever and undoubtedly effective device. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] are obviously strong performers for many. The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would only be surprising if it actually failed. Just been on a strict budget and trying to actually be fiscally responsible more and more as I get older.

Would probably be a butt kicker though.

My hang is lovely today. Maybe my little lever trick will be enough. Or maybe I'll break it. I doubt it or I wouldn't try it, but it is a strange feeling. Just one more experiment that has a slim chance of efficacy to tack on to the wall of ideas not worth trying most likely. Time will tell. It's not like it takes more than a few weeks to see if something is having an impact at all. So whatever. If I gain a millimeter woohoo. If not Boohoo and move on. Same old potatoes.