To 8x6, AND BEYOND!!!

[DLD]

Fighting through the crazy soreness today, with tomorrow being a light day. I read up on the max dose for Viagra. Turns out 300 is fda approved. Which just so happens to work perfectly for me. But it does shave two weeks off the growth period. Guess I'm going to have to see where that gets me, but if the expansion I'm getting is any indication, it might be smart to see how cementing goes before I try another round.

Aside from attempting priapism and a thorough beating of a routine, I'm trying to get erect as often as possible throughout the day. Basically all out [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. It won't be long before I see if I can honestly manage priapism or how well it works. Honestly just three hours in that state is draining like a mofo. Throw in the two hours of edging with a ring daily and the chubs here and there, I'm liable to spend a solid third of the day or more erect. That's 8 hours of pumped up erection. If I stave off injury it has to do something.

So we'll see how it goes within the limits of the fda. It's intimidating but it's for a good cause. A gigantic, girthy monster dong.

I am so happy you are joining me in this experiment, I hope you find some great ideas in your research. So far for me it has been all about Tunica Expansion and how this will effect gains.

 

[Longth]

I am so happy you are joining me in this experiment, I hope you find some great ideas in your research. So far for me it has been all about Tunica Expansion and how this will effect gains.

Wish I could be more help but so far my dick is just too beat to take advantage, and I went through six pills today just to see if an od would do it. Even without orgasm my dick was just too tired to get it done after about 3 hours. I did get some bizarre visual effects but virtually nothing by way of arousal. My routine might just be too intense after all, but it seems to be working a bit.

Tomorrow is a light day. I need to figure out a better strategy for the rest of the week.

So not smoothly.

 

[Longth]

Kinda letting actual priapism go and now working on just getting in as much erect time in per day as I can. After realizing that an actual priapism, which is where you have a surging massive erection going for 4 hours or more, just isn't possible, I'm going to take the lesser approach with using the Viagra as an eq aid during the routine, and then using it for as much random erect time afterwards.

Disappointing a little, but I think having added eq and the several hours I've been able to manage without going totally overboard should work pretty well, although not as instantaneous as priapism would have been. I'm also going to lower the reps for bundles to 10 minutes before each [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session. Other than that, it'll stay the same.

Occasionally my stubborn attitude works out for me. A shame this isn't one of them.

 

[Longth]

I guess it's time for a new plan then.

3 on 1 light, 2 on 1 maintenance, always with a snug ring to retain expansion

Days On

Morning Routine
10 minutes Mandingo stretch
15 minutes high pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], kegeling frequently
30 minutes edging with a ring, hard kegels while fully erect, reverse kegels to avoid overstimulation

Mid Day Expansion Retention Routine
Loose ring during down time
5 minutes directional bundles
30 minutes edging with a ring, hard kegels to enlarge, reverse kegels to avoid climax
Repeat once

Afternoon Routine
10 minutes straight down bundled stretching
30 Minutes edging with a ring with kegels
15 minutes low pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], heavy kegels

Evening Routine
Kegels, kegels, so many kegels.
Erect kegels if possible


Light Days

Morning Routine
10 minutes Mandingo stretch
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], high pressure, frequent kegels

Mid Day Routine
5 Minutes directional stretching
30 minutes edging with a ring, kegels and reverse kegels

Afternoon Routine
10 minutes downward bundles
15 minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], lower pressure, frequent kegels

Evening Routine
Mainly just looking for as much erect time as possible to help cementing.


Maintenance Days

Morning Routine
15 minutes lower pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], no kegels

Evening Routine
15 minutes lower pressure [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], no kegels


Hypothesis; The Kegel Principle

Basically, I think kegels are going to help me out a bit. The biggest gainers generally seem to do them a shit load, and you can see plenty of adult entertainment stars that have absolutely huge pc muscles. When you pump your pc muscle there's a jump in both length and girth. So I figure if I make that a central issue it could actually be a huge help.

But I think other work is required to take advantage of the added size and strength of the pc muscle. Kinda think not working the pc muscle is why gains don't cement. So I guess I will test out going all ham on the sob 6 days a week. If nothing else my eq will get to the point where my dick is basically begging to get bigger right?

Might just be about time I listen to the elders and take it to the extremes they have. Dld preaches kegels as hard as he preaches [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words]. So let's do both and see how hard it hits the measuring stick in a month. I've certainly applied [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] to a pretty full extent. I've seen kegels make an impact, but maybe I didn't realize how much credit they should have gotten. Idk. Seems as good a routine as any.

 

[DLD]

Kinda letting actual priapism go and now working on just getting in as much erect time in per day as I can. After realizing that an actual priapism, which is where you have a surging massive erection going for 4 hours or more, just isn't possible, I'm going to take the lesser approach with using the Viagra as an eq aid during the routine, and then using it for as much random erect time afterwards.

That is OK my man, I am still on it. I want for you to grow bigger, not put all your time into a theory, I will do this as I am not looking for gains. I like the new workout, it looks like it will be great for you. I do appreciate your help in my experimenting!

 

[Longth]

That is OK my man, I am still on it. I want for you to grow bigger, not put all your time into a theory, I will do this as I am not looking for gains. I like the new workout, it looks like it will be great for you. I do appreciate your help in my experimenting!

Yea, Idk if maybe I'm just not well enough trained pc muscle wise or what but Viagra is very all or none for me. Kinda sucks but mine is pretty good for someone who doesn't do kegels as a part of every day life (yet). It's crazy. I can last way longer without it but I lose eq by the end. This stuff my eq flies all over the damn place.

Either way it seems like a bigger and stronger pc muscle is important if I want to go any farther. May very well be the only reason my length routine started working after a while of no gains off pretty much the same stuff. There's a bottleneck somewhere. Just have to figure it out.

 

[JakeM82]

Just be careful with that dosing there my friend, there is a reason they say "Make sure your heart is healthy enough for sex." with ED medicine.

 

[templnite]

Hey man good for you! This seems like a much better approach as the tunica stays stretched for a good amount of hours without an ongoing erection anyway.
I sympathize with you about bundles after the fact bro. One thing I envy borninfigi of is that he doesn't get fluid with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] XD. If I try to bundle later in the day with still some fluid, my skin takes the full punishment which I can't bear honestly.

 

[Longth]

Hey man good for you! This seems like a much better approach as the tunica stays stretched for a good amount of hours without an ongoing erection anyway.
I sympathize with you about bundles after the fact bro. One thing I envy borninfigi of is that he doesn't get fluid with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] XD. If I try to bundle later in the day with still some fluid, my skin takes the full punishment which I can't bear honestly.

Yea, I've had a little retention if I go in less than fully erect, or if I go that one pump too far.. And I know exactly what you mean by the skin taking the brunt of it trying to bundle with that going on. I don't really seem to have a lot of problems with using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twice a day as long as it's spaced out right. Usually like 9am and 9pm. Don't normally get any water retention that way.

 

[Longth]

Just be careful with that dosing there my friend, there is a reason they say "Make sure your heart is healthy enough for sex." with ED medicine.

Lol yea, I already nixed the high dosage thing. I got to 600 and got nothing new erection wise, but I did get a fear and loathing looking trip out of it. My heart is strong like bull.

Nah, it was dumb, but I was frustrated, and it didn't fix it. Another failed pe experiment. Live and learn and much many proverbial things.

 

[templnite]

I have just a tiny bit of fluid after twelve hours, but still there man its annoying XD. A little [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is nice then, It brings back lots of the expansion from the session I feel.

 

[Longth]

I have just a tiny bit of fluid after twelve hours, but still there man its annoying XD. A little [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is nice then, It brings back lots of the expansion from the session I feel.

Yea, I like to do one at max pressure and one going in flaccid with way less. Keeps me from turtling. Doesn't hurt the plumpy girth feel either. I think there's some tricks around here to get rid of retention.

You don't want to go full bore twice though. Might rip your shit from the inside out. Lol

 

[templnite]

I think there's some tricks around here to get rid of retention.

l

Heat/massage I think is the best for it. Figi told me to get erect then massage it, that it works very well

 

[Longth]

Heat/massage I think is the best for it. Figi told me to get erect then massage it, that it works very well

Well maybe all the edging I do works out the retention I get faster. Kinda makes sense that I can do doubles on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] daily without that problem.

Huzzah for coincidental synergies

 

[templnite]

Hezbollah!

 

[Longth]

Mozilla!

 

[templnite]

a milli!

 

[DLD]

Well maybe all the edging I do works out the retention I get faster. Kinda makes sense that I can do doubles on [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] daily without that problem.

Huzzah for coincidental synergies

Never thought about using edging as a way to combat retention, very cool idea. I am going to try to get some retention tonight and see how the edging goes after. Thanks for posting, a new idea is very cool.

 

[Longth]

Never thought about using edging as a way to combat retention, very cool idea. I am going to try to get some retention tonight and see how the edging goes after. Thanks for posting, a new idea is very cool.

If the dick fits, fuck it.

I had a lovely day off of dealing with a light rash type deal around the base. Presumably from the ring I use as an adcr. Basically just wanted to get rid of the soreness, and I think that's been managed. Just didn't wear the ring all day and used a vitamin e aloe vera based lotion. I talk those up a lot for a reason. Any actual pain is gone. To keep it from happening again

II found a thin grippy towel that I can put between the ring and my skin. Feels a lot better than raw rubber all day, and actually keeps the area warm all day. Meaning my flaccid is a bit nicer than it should be and heat makes for a nice catalyst for cementing gains. At least, so far as I've read anyway.

I'm starting with the new routine as outlined. Maybe throwing in some time with the heating pad after each routine if I have time. Anything to help keep things plump. It is a side goal to kind of get a bigger flaccid, so hopefully that encourages that. I've been wanting a better flaccid since pretty much forever, so...

This is about as all out as it gets for me. 3.5 hours a week [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], 10.5 hours a week cock ring edging. 2 hours 55 minutes of bundled stretching. Aiming for 20 hours of kegels a week. So 46 hours, 55 minutes a week of willpower taking exercise. A full time job worth of it. And it really shouldn't be overkill. I really don't expect a gainless month out of this. But nobody ever really does. We shall see.

 

[Longth]

Had a terrific day of the routine. Always going to hate manual stretching, but I don't want to miss any potential synergy. I feel like I have a pretty good idea of why my routine would work, if it does. I've used similar mechanics to get a nice girth boost without bundles or kegels. I'd have to figure a routine featuring those should work better, but I'm not making any assumptions about how much. Measuring in 27 days. Make adjustments from there.

I went for 4 hours of kegels after my routine but after 2 hours it really wasn't doing anything when I kegeled. Probably should have expected that. I'm sure that's good though, especially with the kegels I'm doing during the routine and I like to do a long hard one after edging so the ring comes off easier. Maybe tomorrow will be easier. Maybe not. That's why I log, keep track of my adjustments.

I'm using the Viagra as a boost for now, at a much lesser dose. Kinda figuring my pc muscle should be in good enough shape to not need or really benefit from them by the time I'm out. Just makes things a little easier for now. I guess I could go without but I like the eq boost for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] at least. Not like I need or want them for sex, so girth work seems like a practical use while I try and beef up them pelvic muscles.

And I guess that's it for now. On to the next day.

 

[DLD]

If the dick fits, fuck it

lol, that was the best line of the day!

 

[Longth]

Well today was a struggle and a half. Every edging session went bad. I have to guess that's got a little bit to do with the pc muscle being a little worn out, which is what I'm going for but damn. I did see a good deal of expansion for most of the day regardless. My flaccid is hanging as girthy as my erect state normally does so that's good. Just should have been a lot better.

Kegel section of the routine is underway and it is tough. It's literally exhausting just to do the hard kegels for 20 minutes, but they're kegels. I want them to get super easy and for all the fun tricks to get a lot less demanding. I'm sure it will help if I keep it up. I just kinda wish I had been doing them all along. Never even minding the potential to gain, all those tricks and an erection that literally throbs, which I haven't experienced since like 8 years ago, is just plain too much advantage for a sentient being to pass up if they think about it.

I really need to look into the wrapping techniques for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. The most uncomfortable portion of my routine is the stretching, which isn't a surprise but my hands are getting crampy. Between that and holding the ring deep into the fat pad, it's kind of a bitch on the fingers. Using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would really cut down on that if I can figure out how to wrap and get it on. Anyone find a gainless, easy, idiot proof way of doing that yet?

Anyway, that's day 2 of the Kegel principal. Just kegeling another hour and crashing. Then it's on to day 3.

 

[DLD]

Well today was a struggle and a half. Every edging session went bad. I have to guess that's got a little bit to do with the pc muscle being a little worn out, which is what I'm going for but damn. I did see a good deal of expansion for most of the day regardless. My flaccid is hanging as girthy as my erect state normally does so that's good. Just should have been a lot better.

Kegel section of the routine is underway and it is tough. It's literally exhausting just to do the hard kegels for 20 minutes, but they're kegels. I want them to get super easy and for all the fun tricks to get a lot less demanding. I'm sure it will help if I keep it up. I just kinda wish I had been doing them all along. Never even minding the potential to gain, all those tricks and an erection that literally throbs, which I haven't experienced since like 8 years ago, is just plain too much advantage for a sentient being to pass up if they think about it.

I really need to look into the wrapping techniques for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. The most uncomfortable portion of my routine is the stretching, which isn't a surprise but my hands are getting crampy. Between that and holding the ring deep into the fat pad, it's kind of a bitch on the fingers. Using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would really cut down on that if I can figure out how to wrap and get it on. Anyone find a gainless, easy, idiot proof way of doing that yet?

Anyway, that's day 2 of the Kegel principal. Just kegeling another hour and crashing. Then it's on to day 3.

Don't be so hard on yourself, some days just are not perfect. I am glad you still pushed through. I also wanted to let you know that we have videos for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] wrapping, and other videos on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], they are in the new LengthMasster Video Forum

 

[Longth]

Well I finished up day 3. Went much better than yesterday but I have about the same expansion. I woke up with a nice amount of expansion in a spell of morning wood. Don't usually get that so I get to credit that to kegels. Bundles got a bit tougher today, so I think I'm going to trim a little more off tomorrow than I was planning. Just want to make sure I can do the big days fresher.

I'm going to shoot for two hours again today. Probably move up a half hour per week until the 4 weeks are over. Then actually do the 4 hours as I originally intended. Definitely feeling pretty weak today and could really use a day away from all the kegels. Just means progress in my book. Nice and sore all the way around.

Tomorrow is the first light day where I do less than half the work and no unnecessary kegels, but will probably still see some expansion. The hope is just that my PC muscle rests well and that the soreness goes down enough for another two days before the maintenance day. It's been a tough bitch but the third day on is probably going to be the toughest on a regular basis.

So run of the mill daily update complete. On to day 4, the first light day.

 

[DLD]

Don't become inundated with bundles, they really only need to occupy 5-10 minutes prior to Length or Girth. It is a simple exercise that will allow you to gain much faster but 10 minutes will do.

 

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Don't become inundated with bundles, they really only need to occupy 5-10 minutes prior to Length or Girth. It is a simple exercise that will allow you to gain much faster but 10 minutes will do.

Yea, I stick to two ten minute sessions and 2 5s. I'm really not super interested in length training. It's just to bust up my tunica for all the girth stuff. I'll take a tenth if it comes though.

Day four was a nice enough break. Just two 5 minutes of standard directional bundles, two rounds of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], and one session of edging with a ring mid day. My expansion still got boosted a bit more by just that much, so I think this will be my routine light day. Zero unnecessary kegels. So my PC should be well rested at least.

I'm going to bundle in one direction on light days to try and correct my little bit of tilted dick. I may also try incorporating the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] twists but I'm really not sure how my nuts are going to like that. Maybe if I put the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] on slightly tilted and hold my balls a little in that direction I can pull that off. Would be nice to see that get back to normal. It's been a while.

Other than that, nothing new or interesting. Constantly fine tuning as usual. But that's day four's update. Back to the grind for day 5.

 

[templnite]

Now that you mention the tilting I can see my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] tilts with my erection after putting it on! You are correct that it hurts to unwind it XD. I would use a bit of lube if trying that, but idk really. I think the best you could use is tunica transformers only grip from the base. I imagine its gonna hurt the first times as you get used to the movement, and you tunica becomes more flexible.

 

[DLD]

Yea, I stick to two ten minute sessions and 2 5s. I'm really not super interested in length training. It's just to bust up my tunica for all the girth stuff. I'll take a tenth if it comes though. .

Good, I just wanted to be sure you were not getting bogged down.

 

[Longth]

Good, I just wanted to be sure you were not getting bogged down.

Ha-ha, no... I hate manual stretching waaaay too much to bother with more than that. I get crampy as it is. Like I said, if I want more length I can just lose weight to show off more of what's there. The real hunt is girth.

So I had a pretty successful day 5. Slightly more expansion at my peak which is usually right after the morning routine. I don't really check at night but I really appreciate it when I am able to see a difference in pump at different times of day. Helps me stay motivated.

I think Viagra sucks for edging. All it seems to be doing for me is making it harder to not slip and have to do a slammer style maneuver to avoid completely blowing the session. I did two sets without having to use that trick and two that I seriously couldn't edge like normal. The two sets that were tough were the ones closer to a dose of Viagra. I'm going to try again tomorrow but I think if I can't get to my good spot for edging I'm going to drop it and just deal with it. I really don't think it's helping my eq anyway. And I can't say I have an ounce of trouble getting up. Just another way I'm weird maybe.

Speaking of weird, my CRandtowel thing hasn't been mentioned here yet, and I've started doing a mild form of wrapping with it. It's just my usual full scrotum ring holding a hand towel in place over the whole package. I originally did it because of some ding rash but that's gone and I'm going to continue to use it as a mild wrap because I figured out I can rig it to keep my head out of my foreskin, which adds to my flaccid hang a good inch, which is pretty sweet. It also keeps me a little warm which is potentially a huge benefit with healing. Fact is, it's an improvement on a tactic I'm using anyway. Seems dumber not to.

So that's day 5s notes. Always changing something a little bit. I'm off to do my kegels and crash. And then on to day six. The last day before a day that's actually easy.

 

[templnite]

Why don't you chop the pills into smaller pieces? Maybe if you crushed one of them, and just put a little bit of the powder under your tongue it will hit you different?

 

[Longth]

And day 6 is finally done. I have had hand cramps to deal with all day and good lord do I hate manual stretching. Have to say though, I think I see progress on all points.

3/4 of my sessions were flawless, but my dick was obviously tired for the last session. Pc training I suppose, plus it's not exactly an easy feat to edge 4 times a day for 30 minutes without blowing a gasket. My early morning expansion was better than yesterday again. I think this might be working faster than my ridiculous routine I gained an inch in 3 months with. That would be pretty sweet. And, while I can never really tell, I think some length is joining in. That would be icing on the fat donkey dong cake. (Yea, I wouldn't eat it either)

Viagra is getting delegated to a single dose for the last edging session on Monday. Makes more sense to use it when the eq is actually able to benefit from it then to basically waste it for my early sessions. Don't really know if it will be useful, but it seems worth a go before I totally back off on it.

I guess just some notes; my hand cramps are less so from stretching and more from pushing the ring into the fat pad during edging. I can usually get to the bone though. So I'm at least getting expansion from tip to base. The stretching is going fine; I like to do them in sets of 2:30. That way 10 minutes is 4 reps. Makes it seem less daunting and I think the longer stretches are probably more prone to elongating than the shorter bursts. I'll probably share more technique oriented details each Saturday for kicks. That's it for now though.

And thus concludes day 6 and it's update. Gonna snag some adult entertainment downloads and hit the pc muscle for another 2 hours. I noticed I actually wind up getting hard and then I can do some erect kegels. The more of those the merrier. Erect ones actually seem to help expansion. And tomorrow is a nice easy day of zero manual work with 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions. That sounds damn good to me.

On to day 7

 

[Longth]

Why don't you chop the pills into smaller pieces? Maybe if you crushed one of them, and just put a little bit of the powder under your tongue it will hit you different?

Kinda just not super into Viagra. Edging with it is just way harder. It's like, you hit the perch where you are obviously expanded fully, and you're supposed to sit there as much as you can for the duration. That's literally HOW you get expansion. Viagra turns that tiny perch into a pinhead, so you hit it, and you fall off. Either through climax or regressing back to the not fully expanded state. Literally has been counterproductive, and I'm only going to use it for the second full routine from here on out.

For normal girth work MAYBE it would be different. Like ssjs or bends or the stuff I used to do a lot to get the first inch. For edging, seems like it makes the goal unreachable.

 

[templnite]

Yeah that's what stillwantmore said in a way with this thread http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/viagra-forums/25284-i-no-longer-use-viagra-for-girth.html?highlight=viagra

 

[Longth]

And that's day 7. One week of this rigorous training and I was definitely ready for a day without manual work. My hands feel better, my PC muscle definitely needed this too. Gotta love when a day with 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions feels like a day off.

My wrapping technique seems to be working well. Been elongated all day. My flaccid girth is sticking around my typical erect size. Looks thin, but that's what happens when you elongate. Been keeping warmth and just chilling out watching football all day. And what a day of football huh? For seriously.

That's really about it for today. Just a nice little maintenance day, exactly as intended. Definitely feel ready for tomorrow. I'll be starting 2.5 hours of kegels tomorrow night. Other than that, more of the same.

On to day 8

 

[Longth]

Yeah that's what stillwantmore said in a way with this thread http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/viagra-forums/25284-i-no-longer-use-viagra-for-girth.html?highlight=viagra

Yea, it's really not that great for pe. Kinda odd, considering it makes you hard. But whatever. Kegels are definitely way better to achieve those ends.

 

[templnite]

Yeah man I'm getting better at kegels there is a marked difference with my sessions. Lots easier to get that cock full. Viagra seems like it could help, but getting too hard could prevent from actually manipulating the tunica so its splayed. I could use the extra pressure, but I guess nah, even redzulu was against using V. Guess he was a man of principles :blush:

 

[Longth]

Week2
Day 1
8th Consecutive

Wrapping up the routine a little earlier today for football times. Today was the first full day without Viagra for the first 3 routines. Aside from taking literally 2 minutes to get a decent erection to start with, it was pretty much a total non issue. Not exactly a surprise seeing as I don't have ed.

3/4 Routines went pretty much flawlessly. One was kind of a bitch, but you can't win them all. I must be a little rusty. Or maybe it's as simple as I need a little time to readjust to non Viagra edging sessions. Either way I'll get over the hump sooner than later most likely. I could probably edge professionally at my norm. Slumps is slumps.

I didn't see much of a drop in my expansion after my maintenance day. I'm going to go ahead and stick with it and maybe just try going for a more intense second session next time. The CRandtowel is doing great. My flaccid is hanging with the same girth but way longer than usual. Perhaps that means gains in the near future. Time will tell.

I am not sure, but it almost seems like ending a session with a slammer style maneuver actually leaves me with a better pump somehow. Longer lasting anyway. I guess I could try it as a next step if I see that continue through any other mishaps. Could also hurt my gains though. Really on the fence until I see new evidence.

And that's day 8. Just gotta do my 2.5 hours of kegels and I'm good to go. Then it's on to day 9.

20 days until measurements.

 

[DLD]

Week2
Day 1
8th Consecutive

Wrapping up the routine a little earlier today for football times. Today was the first full day without Viagra for the first 3 routines. Aside from taking literally 2 minutes to get a decent erection to start with, it was pretty much a total non issue. Not exactly a surprise seeing as I don't have ed.

3/4 Routines went pretty much flawlessly. One was kind of a bitch, but you can't win them all. I must be a little rusty. Or maybe it's as simple as I need a little time to readjust to non Viagra edging sessions. Either way I'll get over the hump sooner than later most likely. I could probably edge professionally at my norm. Slumps is slumps.

I didn't see much of a drop in my expansion after my maintenance day. I'm going to go ahead and stick with it and maybe just try going for a more intense second session next time. The CRandtowel is doing great. My flaccid is hanging with the same girth but way longer than usual. Perhaps that means gains in the near future. Time will tell.

I am not sure, but it almost seems like ending a session with a slammer style maneuver actually leaves me with a better pump somehow. Longer lasting anyway. I guess I could try it as a next step if I see that continue through any other mishaps. Could also hurt my gains though. Really on the fence until I see new evidence.

And that's day 8. Just gotta do my 2.5 hours of kegels and I'm good to go. Then it's on to day 9.

20 days until measurements.

Looking good my Man! Perhaps that means gain? Nah, that means gains! Never second guess yourself, it messes with the manifestation

 

[BornInFigi]

Any Viagra sides? I get really bad indigestion and nasal congestion. I've tried decongestants and various stomach soothers ie tums etc With limited relieve. Any suggestions from you or other brothers would be helpful.

 

[Longth]

Looking good my Man! Perhaps that means gain? Nah, that means gains! Never second guess yourself, it messes with the manifestation

Would be pretty sweet to collect some length on such a girthy routine. Maybe it's just a bigger routine. Another 20 days and I'll find out what's up with that.

 

[Longth]

Any Viagra sides? I get really bad indigestion and nasal congestion. I've tried decongestants and various stomach soothers ie tums etc With limited relieve. Any suggestions from you or other brothers would be helpful.

I did get indigestion and I got some congestion the first week. I don't know what you can do for either other than hope your system adapts. I'd honestly say training your pc muscle is probably the way to go if you want a real boost to your eq. Offers way more control than drug enhanced erections. Which is definitely the way to go with pe.

 

[BornInFigi]

I did get indigestion and I got some congestion the first week. I don't know what you can do for either other than hope your system adapts. I'd honestly say training your pc muscle is probably the way to go if you want a real boost to your eq. Offers way more control than drug enhanced erections. Which is definitely the way to go with pe.

I'd like having a few on hand. My uses are for 12-15 hrs days, plus the gym and then trying to keep the ladies happy. The amount of stimulant to get through those days, plus the workouts zaps eq like a mofo. Netting 600 mg of caffine kills my dick, but I can't get through the day without it.

 

[DLD]

Would be pretty sweet to collect some length on such a girthy routine. Maybe it's just a bigger routine. Another 20 days and I'll find out what's up with that.

Good outlook!

 

[Longth]

I'd like having a few on hand. My uses are for 12-15 hrs days, plus the gym and then trying to keep the ladies happy. The amount of stimulant to get through those days, plus the workouts zaps eq like a mofo. Netting 600 mg of caffine kills my dick, but I can't get through the day without it.

Yea, I am only using it for my last edging session to help with eq at the end of the day. Pretty much the only real use for it. It's nice to have a band aid for eq like that, but definitely not useful for edging.

12 to 15 hours of what? I thought I had long pe days god dayum..

 

[templnite]

I think he means twelve hours at work

 

[Longth]

I think he means twelve hours at work

Freakin hope so. Even so that's along ass day.

 

[Longth]

Week 2
Day 2
9th Consecutive

Almost perfect today aside from one maneuver which I actually executed perfectly. Lost virtually no eq and gor back to full in under two minutes. My flaccid is still hanging nice, my eq was better today, and my sessions are getting easier.

Had a later than usual start cause I got to sleep in for once. Kinda piled it together again so I can be done by about midnight with kegels. I've been doing half of them as hard and long as I can, and the other half quick. It's a little early to speculate with any accuracy, but I think they're working how I expected.

I'm also noticing that my flaccid stretched state now clears my belly button while standing straight up while bundled. Between that and my pump increasing marginally, but daily, and I think I may just have my closer for gains finally. I'm using pretty much everything I've learned together so it wouldn't exactly shock me, but it sure as hell would relieve me.

Noticing a little bit of lumpiness on the foreskin. I've seen it enough to know it's not thrombosis, but I generally try to massage it out during edging. Seems to get the job done. I've seen it way worse before and had it disappear overnight. I'd expect more of the same. Also a little lynph fluid build up but same story. Dicks are tough as nails.

So that's day 9s update. Doing a ton of kegels and getting to bed. Did them so good last night my pelvic area was burning a little. And my fat pad is diminishing day to day because of it as well. Kegels for the mo fuckin win.

On to day 10. 19 days to measure.

 

[BornInFigi]

I think he means twelve hours at work

Yes.

 

[DLD]

So that's day 9s update. Doing a ton of kegels and getting to bed. Did them so good last night my pelvic area was burning a little. And my fat pad is diminishing day to day because of it as well. Kegels for the mo fuckin win.

On to day 10. 19 days to measure.

Excellent update. I can relate to seeing that fat pad disappear, mine is getting smaller and smaller. I am almost under the 200 mark, still have 20 pounds to go but so much more dick showing now than 6 months ago.

 

[Longth]

Excellent update. I can relate to seeing that fat pad disappear, mine is getting smaller and smaller. I am almost under the 200 mark, still have 20 pounds to go but so much more dick showing now than 6 months ago.

It's almost my favorite benefit. Only reason I can tell is the spot where my pelvis meets my legs is losing that fold that's usually there. Between that and seeing the little bit of muscle that drives the urethra pop out a little more, I'm really seeing how bone headed it is to not take kegels real seriously.

Glad to hear you're getting where you want weight wise. I find that easier to accomplish but harder to start with than pe for some reason. I really need to get back on that wagon soon though. I'm going to have a lean pelvis and a fluffy rest of me.

Do you even measure anymore, or are you trying to reach a goal? I'm just curious, you still do an awful lot of work, so I've got to figure you still gain. Is it harder to gain at that size?