My Quest For 8" Girth and 3 Hander

[zartan]

Hey Charles_br

I've never had any dots from p.e. My penis becomes a little darker while pumping, but returns to normal color shortly afterwards. My scrotum sometimes becomes looser, but that's also only temporary. I've been really busy and thinking about a lot of stuff, so I've doing a little less p.e. and haven't measured. I'm certain that I haven't made any more girth improvements. I just switched over to a tighter and more elastic bandage for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words], which is making my penis hang a little lower than the previous bandage that I used. The only thing new to report is that one guy in my gym apparently got jealous and said that "when you get a boner, you need to cover that sh-t up", as he was insinuating that I walk around the gym with a boner, which is obviously completely false. My flaccid girth is easily visible through my sweats,, so he thought that I have a constant boner. There's no way I could maintain an erection for hours at a time while working out or even in just a normal setting. I did get an erection a year ago as I was spotting this one hot chick with huge muscle legs & butt while she was doing pull-ups. I couldn't avoid it, and she didn't come in to contact with it either. I quickly sat down, thought good thoughts and covered it up so it would go away.

 

[bawg1012]

zartan, you are a huge dude, on all fronts. i saw a full body pic somewhere on this specific thread and you look like a power lifter, and I assume you have lifted some massive weights, so well done on being a testament to human strength and also to the male anatomy. I see from your sig that you started at 5.5 EG in 2000. two questions: How long did it take you to get to 7" EG? Did you do mainly pumping and jelqs to attain such girth?

Again, impressive. My end goal is 7" girth. I really am not concerned with length, at least right now, and will be as such for a while.

 

[GirthGains]

congrats on the gains I pump with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] as well do you use a cock ring afterward to help heal the girth gains?

 

[zartan]

Thanks for the compliments bawg1012 and Girth Gains. Here are your answers:

My erect girth was about 5.5" in December 2000. I got to 7" erect girth in December last year (12 years), as I was dating this girl and wanted to really impress her. The traditional jelq stopped working for me about 8 or 9 years ago, so I started experimenting with jelq variations, horse squeezes, etc, which allowed me to improve. One that helped me a lot was where I grab my penis at the base with my index finger and thumb and with the other hand do a jelq (this one helped my length also). These and similar ones helped, but by far the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] helped the most. For the first 9 months or so, I was doing 30-40 mins a day in water and got results, but got much greater results when I stopped using water and by doing sessions up to an hour (through multiple sets).

Earlier this year I refined my routine to where clamping actually works for me. What I did was when I finished my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] set, I would put on a cable clamp (sold at Home Depot). I would work up to an erection, and then do 5-10 reps of the side jelq variation and 5-10 reps of the downward jelq variation (described in the last paragraph) followed by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. The jelq's & [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s count as 1 set. I'll do 3- 10 sets of that, and then finish off with grabbing my base with one hand, and then upwards jelq with the other hand (a 2 hander with the top hand doing the jelq motion) for 30 - 100 reps. I try to get more and more range of motion so that I can increase my length as well. When I'm done, I immediately put on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] to trap the gains. It has worked. I will not wear the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] during contests or church. I have tried a few times to clamp while I'm asleep. It worked a few times, but I essentially need to have a full erection for it to work. I'm also worried about damaging or decreasing my length by wearing it while I' asleep. My flaccid penis in a clamp = time lost for potential gains, so I prefer to sleep in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] so I can try to get the most of everything.

 

[Charles_br]

So, how long this kind of sessions used to last?

 

[zartan]

I was going about 40-50 mins before, now I'm going 60-90 minutes. I try to get in at least 60 minutes, and will split it up if I have to.

 

[Satyr]

Firt of all congrats for your gains and perseverance! needs discipline an diligence to stick with it for such a long time.
You said you needed 12 years to gain 1,5 inches in girth? Did your gains come slower over the years or was it a relatively continuous process? I ask because I started with 5,5" as well and it took me about 10 months to get to 6". Wonder if the gains will slow down considerably. One thing is that I started early with SSJs and Compression squeezes (though I haven't fully abandoned the classic jelq yet, but it's a minor exercise in my routine). Also made my first experiences with Redz Frendoz and ATS Rollers (done manually constricted an for a much shorter time frame than usually advised), which seem to have noticable effect.

Btw: you're into Powerlifting?

 

[zartan]

Firt of all congrats for your gains and perseverance! needs discipline an diligence to stick with it for such a long time.
You said you needed 12 years to gain 1,5 inches in girth? Did your gains come slower over the years or was it a relatively continuous process? I ask because I started with 5,5" as well and it took me about 10 months to get to 6". Wonder if the gains will slow down considerably. One thing is that I started early with SSJs and Compression squeezes (though I haven't fully abandoned the classic jelq yet, but it's a minor exercise in my routine). Also made my first experiences with Redz Frendoz and ATS Rollers (done manually constricted an for a much shorter time frame than usually advised), which seem to have noticeable effect.

Btw: you're into Powerlifting?

Congrats on your gains. 1/2" in 10 months is fast! Here's a timeline of when the girth gains for me happened.

December 2000- Approximately 5.5" starting eg and 4 3/4" fg. Experimented with some pumping, but didn't really know what I was doing or how to cement gains. I thought after using it 1 or 2 times that the size would be permanent.
.
February 2001- Learned about jelqing and made slight gains.

2001- 2005- did jelqing or pumped 3 X per week, but sometimes took weeks or months off at a time due to personal problems, and lost many potential gains due to
masturbation. My routine needed a lot of refinement.

2005- got to 6" eg, and was first seen and touched. She was very impressed with my girth. I often think, what if she saw it or touched it now?

2006- stopped pumping, but was jelqing for up to 50 minutes a day with minimal result.

2007-2008- resumed some pumping, with slight results, but stopped pumping in March 2008 and would not do so again until May 2011. Was doing other forms of p.e, but nothing was really working.

Spring 2009- Was interested in the busty asian girl that I mentioned earlier. She was impressed when I told her that my girth was around 6", with her saying "that's fat". It gave me motivation to try jelq variations to increase my length and girth. I honestly thought that me and her were going to be involved. I was going 4 days per week and got up to 6 1/8" eg later than year.

Fall 2010- Was working around a lot of women, which provided p.e. motivation. Experimented with clamping. I got up to about 6 1/4" eg then.

May 2011- Ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Golaith.

Spring 2012- Switched to using the Golaith as an air pump, and not a water pump. It worked and was much more convenient. Got to 6 1/2" eg.

Summer 2012- Was at a real bad time in my life, but got to 6 3/4" eg.

December 2012- Got to 7" eg and over 6" fg (the 6" flaccid might have been sooner, but I know I was definitely that when I was at 7" eg), with extra motivation as there was this girl that I was dating that I really wanted to impress her with it. Was primarily using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], but not much jelqs.

Spring 2013- Got to 7 1/4" eg, increased the time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and added the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] when I'm done. Took off nearly a month due to personal problems, but still kept a 6 1/4" fg.

Summer 2013- Got to 7 3/8" eg- same time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], but added clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and more jelq variations at the end. For me at least, I've seen that clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s are the only manual exercise comparable to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].

Fall 2013- No change in e.g., but a few days ago was just under 6 3/4" fg, and that's coming off of 42 hours with no p.e., and having the last session being only about 15 mins long. I almost got to 10" pumped eg yesterday, and want to crack that barrier. I do have to say that with my current routine that I'm using, when I'm finishing off with jelq variations that my penis looks and feels heavy. If I could just somehow be able to maintain that all the time, that would be fantastic. It certainly does help with my confidence.


The volume and frequency has increased for me, which has lead to gains. For me, applying my own lifting principles (heavy weight, lots of rest) to p.e. doesn't work, but have to do just the opposite (. In regards to my interest/involvement in powerlifting, I'm pleading the 5th.

 

[LasherG]

Hey Z! Gratz on the amazing gains. You are a beast thats for sure!

Word of advice if i may though, keep that stuff secret. Dont go around showing chicks your pe photos. You may come across as a bit obsessive. Rather let them check the package out and if they ask, tell them they welcome to check it out in "private" later. Smile, be confident and let the girls imagination do the work for you.

Get those chicks in your bed man and then slay the proverbial dragon with that trunk of yours. Then news will spread on its own and you will be beating them off with a stick for sure.

 

[zartan]

Thanks and I agree about keeping it secret. The only people that know that I do p.e. are people that read [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I've never mentioned it ever in the outside world. Here's the female breakdown on those that know my size-

2 have seen it unclothed, and both messed around with it .

Not counting my ex gf, 1 other one has seen photos. This woman has seen my ex gf, and I was telling her how crazy and paranoid she was. I mentioned that we never had sex, and upon her asking why, I explained in G-Rated terms that one of the reasons was that she had apprehensions about taking it. She was looking down at my unit and I then in private showed her some photos. It would have been impossible for her to have been any more impressed.

2 asked what size I am- The Asian girl I mentioned earlier, and a lady that used to work at my gym, as they were both inquiring about my sexual history. The 2nd one said that I need a large woman and she tried to hook me up with this young front desk girl that I'm not interested in, and since women talk, I assumed she probably mentioned my size to her. Neither has seen any photos. I know my ex-gf didn't tell anybody, as she didn't want anybody to know that we were involved (even though people easily figured it out), but I'm guessing by the crotch stares that I get, and since women talk, I assume word has spread.

 

[Zambrodom3]

Every woman would be more than surprised to see that girth dammit rofl. Keep up with the progress and keep us in touch

 

[LasherG]

Schweet! All sorted then! Goodluck in your future exploits dude. Keep us posted.

 

[Satyr]

Congrats on your gains. 1/2" in 10 months is fast! Here's a timeline of when the girth gains for me happened.

December 2000- Approximately 5.5" starting eg and 4 3/4" fg. Experimented with some pumping, but didn't really know what I was doing or how to cement gains. I thought after using it 1 or 2 times that the size would be permanent.
.
February 2001- Learned about jelqing and made slight gains.

2001- 2005- did jelqing or pumped 3 X per week, but sometimes took weeks or months off at a time due to personal problems, and lost many potential gains due to
masturbation. My routine needed a lot of refinement.

2005- got to 6" eg, and was first seen and touched. She was very impressed with my girth. I often think, what if she saw it or touched it now?

2006- stopped pumping, but was jelqing for up to 50 minutes a day with minimal result.

2007-2008- resumed some pumping, with slight results, but stopped pumping in March 2008 and would not do so again until May 2011. Was doing other forms of p.e, but nothing was really working.

Spring 2009- Was interested in the busty asian girl that I mentioned earlier. She was impressed when I told her that my girth was around 6", with her saying "that's fat". It gave me motivation to try jelq variations to increase my length and girth. I honestly thought that me and her were going to be involved. I was going 4 days per week and got up to 6 1/8" eg later than year.

Fall 2010- Was working around a lot of women, which provided p.e. motivation. Experimented with clamping. I got up to about 6 1/4" eg then.

May 2011- Ordered the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Golaith.

Spring 2012- Switched to using the Golaith as an air pump, and not a water pump. It worked and was much more convenient. Got to 6 1/2" eg.

Summer 2012- Was at a real bad time in my life, but got to 6 3/4" eg.

December 2012- Got to 7" eg and over 6" fg (the 6" flaccid might have been sooner, but I know I was definitely that when I was at 7" eg), with extra motivation as there was this girl that I was dating that I really wanted to impress her with it. Was primarily using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], but not much jelqs.

Spring 2013- Got to 7 1/4" eg, increased the time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and added the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words] when I'm done. Took off nearly a month due to personal problems, but still kept a 6 1/4" fg.

Summer 2013- Got to 7 3/8" eg- same time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], but added clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and more jelq variations at the end. For me at least, I've seen that clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s are the only manual exercise comparable to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].

Fall 2013- No change in e.g., but a few days ago was just under 6 3/4" fg, and that's coming off of 42 hours with no p.e., and having the last session being only about 15 mins long. I almost got to 10" pumped eg yesterday, and want to crack that barrier. I do have to say that with my current routine that I'm using, when I'm finishing off with jelq variations that my penis looks and feels heavy. If I could just somehow be able to maintain that all the time, that would be fantastic. It certainly does help with my confidence.


The volume and frequency has increased for me, which has lead to gains. For me, applying my own lifting principles (heavy weight, lots of rest) to p.e. doesn't work, but have to do just the opposite (. In regards to my interest/involvement in powerlifting, I'm pleading the 5th.

Thanks for your thorough answer. So it seems as if you worked out in the most general sense under deprived conditions for a longer time. Considering the historical fact that Penis Enlargement was much more uncommon in the early 2000s, that isn't too surprising. I wonder where you'd be today if you had begun earlier with clamping SSJs and Pumping.
Too bad you "plead the 5th" when it comes to PL. Would be very interested in a small talk about your experiences (comp and else) and your stats.

 

[zartan]

Thanks zambram, lasherG and Satyr. Satyr- I sometimes think what if I had a better routine or would have discovered [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] back then, but more so think about how many gains I lost from masturbation. It's hard to move forward when you keep looking back at the past and think about what could have been or what if things would have been different with this girl, etc. I try to learn from my mistakes and the mistakes of others so I don't repeat them and so I can be the best that I can be.

 

[Solid Snake]

Wow a 10 inch pumped dick that's crazy lol!! Congrats on gains man! Are you working on length?

What do you mean you lost gains from masterbation? Because you couldn't maintain EQ?

 

[DLD]

Wow a 10 inch pumped dick that's crazy

The SIZE of a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] tube!

 

[Satyr]

what the hell....I just realized you get almost 3 inches of temporary girth out of your pumping session? That's way beyond (at least my) imagination!

 

[zartan]

The SIZE of a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] tube!

Thanks for all of our comments.


True story- I've gotten to 9 3/4" pumped eg a handful of times, and it does make the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] fit more snugly.

Solide Snake- I unfortunately have naturally tight ligs, which makes length gains very difficult. I do some stretching, but due to time restricitions, I primarily do girth work since it works for me. My ligs do loosen up after doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] work. I greatly wish that I had double digit length. I know people on this site are split as to whether or not masturbation hinders gains, but for me, it definitely took a negative impact on my girth and to a lesser extent eq.

Satyr- Right now, it takes me about 30 mins to get to 8" eg, and about an hour to get to 9" eg. I try not to leave the house until I get to 9", as I feel insecure on the days that I don't have any or very little time to do p.e.

 

[zartan]

Update-

Earlier today I got up to unpumped and unclamped 7 7/16" eg and just over 6 3/4" fg. I couldn't maintain a 100% erection long enough for a photo and the flaccid girth photo came out to blurry. I have included a 95% erection photo though. I also included a hand measurement to prove the point that I don't have a good illusion- as I have big hands, a long distance from my pelvis to my knees, a long distance from the bottom of my pelvis to my navel tree trunk legs. I've made a few modifications this week, and they have worked! Here's what I did:

1) Clamping throughout the day- I've tried this a few times over the years, but has never worked (not counting my post [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] workouts, in which it does work). I finally tried it while being wrapped, and it works! I don't know how I missed this or why I wasn't doing it correctly and wish I would have discovered it sooner.

2) I went to the Home Depot plumbing/pipes section and bought a 2" diameter mini plastic tube/ring (I don't know the exact name, but it costs about a $1). I put this around my base while using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words], and it becomes much more intense.

With these 2 successful modifications, I think I can get to 7" fg and 7 1/2" eg before the end of this year.

1 more true story to share-

2 months ago, I was in the hot tub at my gym doing some rehab work. A petite blonde lady with small hands and DD, possibly EE breasts came in (I'm not sure if they're natural or not). We were talking and it went extremely well. She's an ex-gymnast turned MMA fighter. Last night was the first time I saw here since then. Both times I've seen her, my crotch was covered up greatly so she doesn't know about my size. She immediately gave me her number. Everything sounds good so far right? The more she talked, red flags starting going off in my head as she was nice but seems a little crazy and has 2 college age children. As much as I would like to touch and see her magnificent breasts and show her "what I've been working on", I'm going to stay exit stage left and learn from the experiences with my last girlfriend and avoid crazy women.

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[DLD]

A saw a video with Mandingo and some very small girl where she made a 4 hander with some change! It was like a Louisville Slugger! Damn! Link to follow.